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(Boston Globe)   Ukrainian President Yanukovych announces peace deal to be signed today   (bostonglobe.com) divider line 75
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2014-02-21 11:13:22 AM  

studebaker hoch: In Ukraine, Bloc Party find YOU.


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2014-02-21 11:14:06 AM  

spiderpaz: Harry Freakstorm: What are the chances of Ukraine splitting in to two or three separate entities?  The western section is more aligned with Europe and the eastern sides with Russia.  That little dangley in the south just needs to avoid Italy's boot.

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Russia mainly just cares about Sevestapool anyway .. just give it to them, if it get's them out of Ukraine's business a little bit.


wut? o_O
 
2014-02-21 11:17:50 AM  
I miss their hot President,Yulia Tymoshenko.

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And her daughter, of course.

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2014-02-21 11:33:06 AM  
Turns out that Eastern Europe's citizens is not terribly fond of Russia rebuilding the USSR. Funny that
 
2014-02-21 11:41:50 AM  

RoxtarRyan: Yulia Tymoshenko


Hubba Hubba
 
2014-02-21 11:55:58 AM  
Parliament has passed a resolution to dismiss Interior Minister Zacharchenko.  Also amended the law that was used to imprison Tymoshenko which could lead to her release.

source:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26285352
 
2014-02-21 11:59:27 AM  
Didn't they announce a truce just two days ago?
 
2014-02-21 12:22:08 PM  

spiderpaz: Russia mainly just cares about Sevestapool anyway .. just give it to them, if it get's them out of Ukraine's business a little bit.


Sort of like Germany vs Poland on Danzig?
 
2014-02-21 12:27:41 PM  

RoxtarRyan: I miss their hot President,Yulia Tymoshenko.

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And her daughter, of course.

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She wasn't president, she was Prime Minister. Also, she is one of the key concessions in this treaty. She's been (falsely and brutally) imprisoned for two years for made-up charges brought by Yanukovych and his Russophile cronies. Parliament voted to free her immediately after reverting to the 2004 draft of the constitution. Yanukovych saw her (rightfully) as a contender for power and did away with her like any good soviet dictator....err...President would.
 
2014-02-21 12:33:20 PM  

tallen702: RoxtarRyan: I miss their hot President,Yulia Tymoshenko.

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And her daughter, of course.

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She wasn't president, she was Prime Minister. Also, she is one of the key concessions in this treaty. She's been (falsely and brutally) imprisoned for two years for made-up charges brought by Yanukovych and his Russophile cronies. Parliament voted to free her immediately after reverting to the 2004 draft of the constitution. Yanukovych saw her (rightfully) as a contender for power and did away with her like any good soviet dictator....err...President would.


via  https://www.facebook.com/euromaidanpr :
Parliament Has Freed Tymoshenko

The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine had adopted the draft law № 2023 "On amendments to the Criminal Code and Criminal Procedure Code of Ukraine regarding the implementation to national law of the UN article №19 on corruption."
This document provides for the decriminalization of the article under which Tymoshenko was convicted, reports Espreso TV. More than 310 MPs voted in favor, including 54 Party of Regions MPs, 87 MPs from Batkivshchyna (Fatherland), 40 from UDAR, 36 from Svoboda, 32 from the Communist Party and 61 unaffiliated.
Today's session of Parliament was then closed despite demands from MP Oleh Lyashko to vote on the release of Viktor Pshonka.
The Parliament will continue to work tomorrow at 10:00.
http://espreso.tv/new/2014/02/21/parlament_zvilnyv_tymoshenko
 
2014-02-21 12:36:39 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Turns out that Eastern Europe's citizens is not terribly fond of Russia rebuilding the USSR. Funny that


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2014-02-21 12:48:31 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Turns out that Eastern Europe's citizens is not terribly fond of Russia rebuilding the USSR. Funny that


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2014-02-21 12:50:21 PM  
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If not now it's only a matter of time before Ukraine goes into a full scale civil war.
 
2014-02-21 12:55:13 PM  
This sums up my impression of Putin right about now:

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I hope Ukraine can find a less bloody way forward. Despite the wishes of some of the old guard in Russia and elsewhere, the USSR is not coming back.
 
2014-02-21 12:59:44 PM  

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If not now it's only a matter of time before Ukraine goes into a full scale civil war.


Why is that?
 
2014-02-21 01:01:16 PM  
Now, the infighting between the opposition parties will start and they'll find a way to implode.  Ukrainians are always their own worst enemy, it;s just our way :-)
 
2014-02-21 01:23:58 PM  

netweavr: http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-02-21/polish-minister-tells-prote s t-leader-you-will-all-be-dead/


And that was the good news!
 
2014-02-21 01:39:22 PM  

Naatje: The Party of Regions is finished.  They are losing their backers and their offices have been burned across the country.  Here's video form yesterday of a train car full of 'Titushki' who had been fooled about payment. That's Russian being spoken and mostly cursing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhkrMjprUF4


Well, that went well, don't you think?

Reminds me of the videos where a McDonald's runs out of McNuggets.  Just about the same reaction.  Except they would call 911, to let the police know.

/ "I hear they're an excitable people, these Ukrainians."
// 1/4 Ukrainian myself and I was getting excited, even though I don't know what they were saying.
 
2014-02-21 02:12:12 PM  
m.natemat.pl
she lives!
 
2014-02-21 02:30:23 PM  
shiat, this ain't over by a long shot.

From Mychailo Wynnyckyj:

Extremely tense and emotional events unfolding on Maidan tonight. According to the announced plan for tonight, a funeral service for the men who lost their lives yesterday in battles against the regime was supposed to be held. The three opposition party leaders (Yatseniuk, Klitschko, Tiahnybok), Poroshenko and other politicians were invited onto the stage together with priests. The crowd (40-50 thousand people) whistled at them, and demanded explanations regarding today's "deal" with Yanukovych. Most people in the crowd are, to put it mildly, not happy that an agreement was signed with the person they see as responsible for 77 dead and several hundred injured civilians. The funeral service was interrupted when one of the coffins was brought directly to the front of the stage during Klitschko's speech, and the crowd began shouting "who will answer for this?!". Then a "Sotnia" (unit) commander who had personally fought with riot police during the past days, forced his way onto the stage. His short emotional speech, during which he stressed that his unit was very well armed, ended with an ultimatum to the opposition leaders: either force the President's resignation by 10 am tomorrow, and renounce your deal with Yanukovych (according to which an election is scheduled for 10 months from now), or this commander's Sotnia will advance ("storm") the government quarter. Dmytro Yarosh from the Right Sector then came onto the stage and proclaimed essentially the same thing. It should be noted that this morning, over 1000 Interior Ministry troops were withdrawn from the government quarter, and this afternoon those troops who were from southern Ukraine were transported home. However, significant numbers of well armed government troops remain inside the Presidential Administration and Cabinet of Ministers buildings. It is now clear that the opposition's "negotiations" are not acceptable to Maidan, and the political leaders are NOT in control. Heaven help us, but I feel we're in for more bloodshed - soon.
 
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2014-02-21 03:20:21 PM  
varlamov.me

I love the smell of peace deals in the morning (lgt lengthy post about thursday)
 
2014-02-21 06:01:44 PM  

danzak: shiat, this ain't over by a long shot.

From Mychailo Wynnyckyj:

Extremely tense and emotional events unfolding on Maidan tonight. According to the announced plan for tonight, a funeral service for the men who lost their lives yesterday in battles against the regime was supposed to be held. The three opposition party leaders (Yatseniuk, Klitschko, Tiahnybok), Poroshenko and other politicians were invited onto the stage together with priests. The crowd (40-50 thousand people) whistled at them, and demanded explanations regarding today's "deal" with Yanukovych. Most people in the crowd are, to put it mildly, not happy that an agreement was signed with the person they see as responsible for 77 dead and several hundred injured civilians. The funeral service was interrupted when one of the coffins was brought directly to the front of the stage during Klitschko's speech, and the crowd began shouting "who will answer for this?!". Then a "Sotnia" (unit) commander who had personally fought with riot police during the past days, forced his way onto the stage. His short emotional speech, during which he stressed that his unit was very well armed, ended with an ultimatum to the opposition leaders: either force the President's resignation by 10 am tomorrow, and renounce your deal with Yanukovych (according to which an election is scheduled for 10 months from now), or this commander's Sotnia will advance ("storm") the government quarter. Dmytro Yarosh from the Right Sector then came onto the stage and proclaimed essentially the same thing. It should be noted that this morning, over 1000 Interior Ministry troops were withdrawn from the government quarter, and this afternoon those troops who were from southern Ukraine were transported home. However, significant numbers of well armed government troops remain inside the Presidential Administration and Cabinet of Ministers buildings. It is now clear that the opposition's "negotiations" are not acceptable to Maidan, and the political ...


Imagine that, the peaceful protestors are being hijacked by armed extremists hellbent on forcing their view upon everyone else.  Keyword there is forcing.  This happens when the 'leadership' of a protest is not on the streets whilst the more extreme-viewed folks are in the thick of things - they can capitalize on the emotion, and they will because it means they get their way.

Unfortunately, it appears that Klitschko and the rest of the 'leadership' are discovering this the hard way...

This is why you can't generalize protestors, and why attaching 'peaceful' to every single person in a mass is not a sound strategy.  You can be damn sure that Yarosh has never wanted peaceful resolutions to this situation - that robs him of power.  He's the leader of a growing and increasingly militant subfaction - that doesn't happen overnight.
 
2014-02-21 07:11:15 PM  

Gunny Highway: SuperNinjaToad: [i.cdn.turner.com image 850x478]


If not now it's only a matter of time before Ukraine goes into a full scale civil war.

Why is that?


Because the differences between the eastern and western part of the country is just too much to bridge. Imagine Republicans living exclusively in one part of the country and Democrats the other. Both groups of folks are in dire financial needs, each group blame the other and they speak different languages.
 
2014-02-21 07:23:11 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: Gunny Highway: SuperNinjaToad: [i.cdn.turner.com image 850x478]


If not now it's only a matter of time before Ukraine goes into a full scale civil war.

Why is that?

Because the differences between the eastern and western part of the country is just too much to bridge. Imagine Republicans living exclusively in one part of the country and Democrats the other. Both groups of folks are in dire financial needs, each group blame the other and they speak different languages.


There's no sign that the country would split into two yet, so it's rather theoretical this time. The eastern half reacted slower, but they seem to side with the anti-Yanukovich crowd. See my posts in the new thread.
 
2014-02-22 10:56:37 AM  
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Either way
 
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