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(Washington Post)   Washington D.C. pedestrian who was hit by a car because snow-covered sidewalks forced him to walk on the road lives just long enough in the hospital to learn that police issued him a ticket   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 114
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-02-20 07:23:20 PM  
walking in the roadway where a sidewalk is provided

If that's what the law says, "provided" rather than "available", he may be guilty. Welcome to drivers' world, luckless pedestrian, where agents of the law are trained to nail you on technicalities.
 
2014-02-20 07:39:24 PM  
Don't walk in the road. Don't bike in the road.


The laws of Newton trump your opinion and no law drafted on
parchment can change them.
 
2014-02-20 08:15:36 PM  

ZAZ: Welcome to drivers' world, luckless pedestrian, where agents of the law are trained to nail you on technicalities.


Excellent Steely Dan reference.
 
2014-02-20 09:13:53 PM  
"That was the salt in the wound,"

Too bad it wasn't on the road instead, amirite?
 
2014-02-20 09:25:24 PM  
Crystal Adams, Brown's 60-year-old sister, said Wednesday afternoon that her brother was forced to walk in the street because snow covered the sidewalk, resulting in "treacherous" conditions for any pedestrian.

as opposed to walking in the road, which wasn't treacherous at all.  You know, except for the pickup trucks mowing you down.
 
2014-02-20 09:28:58 PM  

ZAZ: If that's what the law says, "provided" rather than "available", he may be guilty.



i162.photobucket.com
"What difference does it make?"
 
2014-02-20 09:31:33 PM  
I've had to dodge people and even baby strollers on my drive to work due to people choosing the road over a little snow.  This winter has been bad.
 
2014-02-20 09:50:29 PM  
There is a simple rule for all auto drivers: and I quote "Don't use that 2 ton weapon you are driving to strike and kill pedestrians."
 
2014-02-20 09:52:12 PM  
As someone who was hit by a car while crossing in a marked crosswalk as a child, and then nearly arrested by the local police because of the damage my young skull did to the old lady's windshield, my thoughts are with the victim and his family.
 
2014-02-20 09:52:54 PM  
WHO CARES

HE WAS BLACK
 
2014-02-20 09:54:43 PM  
Every time it snows in Kansas City the idiots immediately go outside and mill around in the street. Used to drive me crazy.
 
2014-02-20 09:54:45 PM  
Yes, that sucks for him.

But if it's night, perhaps you should wear light clothes if you're going to be out walking. Especially if you're going to walk in the road. Jesus, how dumb do you have to be to walk in the road, especially when drivers are liable to skid all over the place? I hope he was on his way to buy a pair of boots, so that he could walk on the sidewalk.
 
2014-02-20 09:55:23 PM  
Well, now that he's dead, they will go after any family members to get the cash. Including attaching their wages.


/Nice pr job boys, keep up the good work.
 
2014-02-20 09:59:23 PM  
Haha. My friend has the top of his left ear missing from when he got hit by a car as a teenager. He said when he was in the hospital a cop came in to his room and dropped the jaywalking ticket on him and walked out without saying a word.
 
2014-02-20 09:59:36 PM  

proteus_b: Yes, that sucks for him.

But if it's night, perhaps you should wear light clothes if you're going to be out walking. Especially if you're going to walk in the road. Jesus, how dumb do you have to be to walk in the road, especially when drivers are liable to skid all over the place? I hope he was on his way to buy a pair of boots, so that he could walk on the sidewalk.


Yup.

The other night I saw some idiot wearing a black coat walking in the same direction with traffic... I know the sidewalk was snowed over, but damn- at least TRY to meet drivers halfway. Reflective clothing and walk facing traffic (cross to the other side, dumbass!) so we have a little better chance to see each other.
 
2014-02-20 10:00:12 PM  

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: WHO CARES

HE WAS BLACK

 
2014-02-20 10:03:41 PM  

you are a puppet: Haha. My friend has the top of his left ear missing from when he got hit by a car as a teenager. He said when he was in the hospital a cop came in to his room and dropped the jaywalking ticket on him and walked out without saying a word.


was he hit by Mike Tyson?
 
2014-02-20 10:04:08 PM  

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: WHO CARES

HE WAS BLACK


Should have been easy to see in the snow
 
2014-02-20 10:04:26 PM  

akula: Yup.

The other night I saw some idiot wearing a black coat walking in the same direction with traffic... I know the sidewalk was snowed over, but damn- at least TRY to meet drivers halfway. Reflective clothing and walk facing traffic (cross to the other side, dumbass!) so we have a little better chance to see each other.


I live in a college town.

Black overcoats, black hats, black pants, black shirt, black bookbags. Ridin bikes at night in the street without any lights or reflectors at all. While wearing headphones.

/It's completely normal these days.
 
2014-02-20 10:04:33 PM  

doglover: Don't walk in the road. Don't bike in the road.

The laws of Newton trump your opinion and no law drafted on
parchment can change them.


This. I'm not saying the pedestrian hadn't come it, but the snow covered sidewalks didn't "force" him to do anything, anymore than snow-covered roads would be blamed for forcing drivers onto the sidewalks. The correct, though inconvenient, answer here was "there is walkway available at this time, you can't walk".
 
2014-02-20 10:06:12 PM  

Chris Ween: I've had to dodge people and even baby strollers on my drive to work due to people choosing the road over a little snow.  This winter has been bad.


Hell, I have to do that on a sunny June day. For some reason people hate sidewalks in this town. They elect to walk in the street instead.
 
2014-02-20 10:06:35 PM  

ZAZ: walking in the roadway where a sidewalk is provided

If that's what the law says, "provided" rather than "available", he may be guilty. Welcome to drivers' world, luckless pedestrian, where agents of the law are trained to nail you on technicalities.


They word it that way for just this reason. If you can't walk on the sidewalk because it wasn't "available," then get your happy ass to court and explain why you couldn't walk on the sidewalk "provided", citizen. Some of us go to school for YEARS to learn how to do this shiat.
 
2014-02-20 10:08:20 PM  

fluffy2097: Black overcoats, black hats, black pants, black shirt, black bookbags. Ridin bikes at night in the street without any lights or reflectors at all. While wearing headphones.


Nothing drives me more crazy than seeing someone with a $700 bike that doesn't have lights. If you can afford aerobars, you can sure as hell afford a set of $15 LED lights.
 
2014-02-20 10:08:23 PM  

fat boy: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: WHO CARES

HE WAS BLACK

Should have been easy to see in the snow


WHY DO YOU THINK HE GOT HIT
 
2014-02-20 10:09:15 PM  

Delay: There is a simple rule for all auto drivers: and I quote "Don't use that 2 ton weapon you are driving to strike and kill pedestrians."


There is a simple rule for all pedestrians too, and I quote "Keep your ass out of the road, dumbass."
 
2014-02-20 10:12:40 PM  

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: WHO CARES

HE WAS BLACK


I noticed this morning that the only black people on History Channel or in the past.
 
2014-02-20 10:13:31 PM  

ZAZ: walking in the roadway where a sidewalk is provided

If that's what the law says, "provided" rather than "available", he may be guilty. Welcome to drivers' world, luckless pedestrian, where agents of the law are trained to nail you on technicalities.


Hooray for the government class!
No pensions were harmed during the preceding incident
 
2014-02-20 10:16:59 PM  

HotWingAgenda: As someone who was hit by a car while crossing in a marked crosswalk as a child, and then nearly arrested by the local police because of the damage my young skull did to the old lady's windshield, my thoughts are with the victim and his family.


You got run over by a cop's mom?
 
2014-02-20 10:22:10 PM  
DC?
I thought FOR SURE that was ENGLAND.
 
2014-02-20 10:22:14 PM  
Safety is serious business, citizen.
 
2014-02-20 10:25:24 PM  
I've seen kids in dark clothes, riding dark bikes, no reflectors on pedals, no lights, nothing, swerve in front of me at night, down by UNM capus. I think the first to scream they were hit when they get hit. I make sure to have plenty of lights, wear a helmet, all the good stuff.
 
2014-02-20 10:28:53 PM  
It's the cities fault since they didn't clear the bridge sidewalks of snow. Pretty sure next year they will have fines for residents who don't shovel city owned sidewalks in front of their property(the Chicago way) instead of having non violent misdemeanors shoveling snow for reduced time and burden on taxpayers.
 
2014-02-20 10:29:57 PM  

fluffy2097: akula: Yup.

The other night I saw some idiot wearing a black coat walking in the same direction with traffic... I know the sidewalk was snowed over, but damn- at least TRY to meet drivers halfway. Reflective clothing and walk facing traffic (cross to the other side, dumbass!) so we have a little better chance to see each other.

I live in a college town.

Black overcoats, black hats, black pants, black shirt, black bookbags. Ridin bikes at night in the street without any lights or reflectors at all. While wearing headphones.

/It's completely normal these days.


I nearly flattened some guy who thought it was a good idea to wear all black and go for a walk in the road at night during a thunderstorm. When I swerved to a stop to avoid his suicidal butt he proceeded to throw his cigarette butts at my windshield.

He had a lot of them.
 
2014-02-20 10:35:14 PM  
Either:
BUSHES FAULT, or
Thanks, Obama

You be the judge...

Also:

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: fat boy: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: WHO CARES

HE WAS BLACK

Should have been easy to see in the snow

WHY DO YOU THINK HE GOT HIT


That's funny right there, and I don't care who ya' are
/ no - I mean the progression of the exchange was funny
// it's not funny if its true
 
2014-02-20 10:36:02 PM  

akula: proteus_b: Yes, that sucks for him.

But if it's night, perhaps you should wear light clothes if you're going to be out walking. Especially if you're going to walk in the road. Jesus, how dumb do you have to be to walk in the road, especially when drivers are liable to skid all over the place? I hope he was on his way to buy a pair of boots, so that he could walk on the sidewalk.

Yup.

The other night I saw some idiot wearing a black coat walking in the same direction with traffic... I know the sidewalk was snowed over, but damn- at least TRY to meet drivers halfway. Reflective clothing and walk facing traffic (cross to the other side, dumbass!) so we have a little better chance to see each other.


When I was a yout, we were taught in elementary school, "Ride on the right, walk on the left"  since there aren't any sidewalks out where I lived.
 
2014-02-20 10:36:14 PM  
Living in the hit-and-run capital of the US, Denver. My advice is stay the fark out of the street if don't want added to the scoreboard.
 
2014-02-20 10:37:39 PM  

xaks: akula: proteus_b: Yes, that sucks for him.

But if it's night, perhaps you should wear light clothes if you're going to be out walking. Especially if you're going to walk in the road. Jesus, how dumb do you have to be to walk in the road, especially when drivers are liable to skid all over the place? I hope he was on his way to buy a pair of boots, so that he could walk on the sidewalk.

Yup.

The other night I saw some idiot wearing a black coat walking in the same direction with traffic... I know the sidewalk was snowed over, but damn- at least TRY to meet drivers halfway. Reflective clothing and walk facing traffic (cross to the other side, dumbass!) so we have a little better chance to see each other.

When I was a yout, we were taught in elementary school, "Ride on the right, walk on the left"  since there aren't any sidewalks out where I lived.


That's what I was always taught- on a bike, you go with traffic. On foot, against traffic.
 
2014-02-20 10:42:28 PM  

HighlanderRPI: you are a puppet: Haha. My friend has the top of his left ear missing from when he got hit by a car as a teenager. He said when he was in the hospital a cop came in to his room and dropped the jaywalking ticket on him and walked out without saying a word.

was he hit by Mike Tyson?


Man, that guy sells a lot of chicken breasts.  You can buy bags of 'em for super cheap at Costco.
 
2014-02-20 10:43:09 PM  
I walk to work, so I'm getting a sad.

The sidewalks were bad enough, with up to six inches of snow. The intersections and parking lots were awful, though. Crosswalks are where the snowplows pile it up. Multiple feet high. Over my head, high. I'm not mountain climbing, I'm walking to work. I'm going to skip around it through the street.
 
2014-02-20 10:44:52 PM  

doglover: Don't walk in the road. Don't bike in the road.


The laws of Newton trump your opinion and no law drafted on
parchment can change them.


No you are supposed to not hit other humans with your car. A woman once forced me off the road to scream at "you people". I told her she sounded like someone who wanted to hit someone with her car. She sad she would never do that, moments before calling me a bastard and hitting me with her car.
 
2014-02-20 10:45:16 PM  
The area got over a foot of snow the day before, then a break for a few hours that allowed clearing, then sleet and more snow.  All of this made for horrible conditions the next morning.  Roads that were cleared after the foot of snow had 1/4" of ice or more on them overnight after the re-freeze.

Point being crews were very busy and you'd have to be an IDIOT to walk in the road on an icy bridge in DC in black clothes in the farking dark in those conditions.  Maybe you're a nice guy, but you're a farking idiot.
 
2014-02-20 10:47:15 PM  

Ehcks: I walk to work, so I'm getting a sad.

The sidewalks were bad enough, with up to six inches of snow. The intersections and parking lots were awful, though. Crosswalks are where the snowplows pile it up. Multiple feet high. Over my head, high. I'm not mountain climbing, I'm walking to work. I'm going to skip around it through the street.


Check for cars first
 
2014-02-20 10:47:34 PM  
"says he had no choice but to walk in the street after last week's winter storm, a move that proved deadly when a pickup truck hit him. "

You are mistaken you entitled fark. He had the choice to stay off the street, like a reasonable human being, or take a chance.

He took a chance and it turned out bad.

Learn how to deal.
 
2014-02-20 10:48:45 PM  
www.kidacne.com
 
2014-02-20 10:49:01 PM  

strathmeyer: doglover: Don't walk in the road. Don't bike in the road.


The laws of Newton trump your opinion and no law drafted on
parchment can change them.

No you are supposed to not hit other humans with your car. A woman once forced me off the road to scream at "you people". I told her she sounded like someone who wanted to hit someone with her car. She sad she would never do that, moments before calling me a bastard and hitting me with her car.


You miss the point. If a car hits a pedestrian, the pedestrian will be hurt worse than the driver. The pedestrian's rights are tempered by that fact- whether the driver means to hit the pedestrian or not, it will not go well with the person on foot.

That said, if you're out walking in the dark, you really REALLY need to go out of your way to make yourself visible to drivers... those reflective vests aren't too expensive and show up long before the headlights of the vehicle make you visible to drivers.
 
2014-02-20 10:53:39 PM  

strathmeyer: No you are supposed to not hit other humans with your car.


The car wasn't breaking the law, the pedestrian was.

CRtwenty: I nearly flattened some guy who thought it was a good idea to wear all black and go for a walk in the road at night during a thunderstorm. When I swerved to a stop to avoid his suicidal butt he proceeded to throw his cigarette butts at my windshield.


This reminds me (CSB time)
Mrs. Brainsick was driving and stopped at a light when a cyclist nearly ran into her car as he was illegally crossing in front of her. She honked and flipped him off and he (from the other sidewalk) started cussing her out and throwing rocks at our car. She said the only thing that kept her from getting out of the car and beating his ass was the fact she was 8-months pregnant at the time.


/I'm glad I wasn't there because she would have 'sicced' me on the guy and I'm a 6'2" 190lb wuss
 
2014-02-20 11:06:18 PM  
This is exactly why I put a flashing light on my jacket and a camping head lamp on my dog when I walk him. The snow has been bad, but it's mostly due to lazy arseholes who don't shovel their sidewalks. I don't mind walking through a little snow, but two weeks of snow covered by ice can be tough. There are times where it's easier to walk in the street.

The lights look a little ridiculous, especially the dog's, but it has kept us from getting run over. Knock on wood...
 
2014-02-20 11:12:33 PM  
Unless the snow is multiples of feet deep, he could have walked through it; sure, it may have been more difficult, but difficult =/= impossible. He chose to break the law because he was lazy.

fark him.

/this post brought to you by the Eat a Bag of Dicks, You Pedestrian Scum Foundation
 
2014-02-20 11:15:50 PM  

doglover: Don't walk in the road. Don't bike in the road.


May I cross your street?  Or should I buy an armored personnel carrier just in case?
 
2014-02-20 11:19:28 PM  

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: fat boy: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: WHO CARES

HE WAS BLACK

Should have been easy to see in the snow

WHY DO YOU THINK HE GOT HIT


Preacher leaned over and said, dont' worry, I got him for you

/terrible punchline to a bad joke
 
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