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(The New Republic)   Evangelical Patrick Henry College, forbids students to smoke, drink, swear, dance or even date without written parental permission; and of course, in keeping with biblical principles, if you are raped it's your own fault, you filthy harlot   (newrepublic.com) divider line 252
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2014-02-20 04:54:14 PM

Pick13: FTFA: This, however, was Patrick Henry College (PHC), the elite evangelical school better known as "God's Harvard."

Who the hell ever said that with a straight face


There's plenty of respectable religious-affiliated schools around.  Georgetown is the first one that comes to mind.
 
2014-02-20 04:54:16 PM

RedVentrue: vudukungfu: Right up there with al queda and the taliban.

People like this need to be purged from the land.

Put them all on an island and let god sort them out.

I vote for Papua New Guinea.


Sounds good to me.
I hear they have Ropen down there.

they can pray to the Ropen.
 
2014-02-20 04:54:20 PM

Pick13: FTFA: This, however, was Patrick Henry College (PHC), the elite evangelical school better known as "God's Harvard."

Who the hell ever said that with a straight face


If I were employing people a religious school would probably be a huge red flag.
 
2014-02-20 04:54:20 PM

qorkfiend: crab66: Boojum2k: ikanreed: Has anyone noticed that there aren't liberal schools where the rules say you have to obey liberal doctrine?

http://www.thefire.org/  might disagree with you.

What the fark.

How is this even remotely the same thing?

Please show me a school that actually forces people to smoke pot and play ultimate frisbee to attend.

Yes, please. I have some graduate studies I'd like to pursue.


Been there, done that
 ecee.colorado.edu
 
2014-02-20 04:55:09 PM

brap: That's weird as Patrick Henry was a bartender and home-brew enthusiast.

No word on whether or not he was a rapist.

Give me libations or give me death!


FWIW, he did have his wife locked in a windowless room for a time:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Henry#Sarah.27s_illness

//it's not as bad as it sounds
//but still pretty bad
//but not his fault as far as I can tell
 
2014-02-20 04:55:16 PM

StopLurkListen: what_now: Quick check of the website tells me that...

Because the College is recognized by the Department of Education as an eligible institution, PHC families are eligible to take advantage of student loans. To take advantage of these benefits, please be sure to use the College's OPE ID number 039513-00.

This school is utterly farked. Have fun with the Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights.

I'm unfamiliar with the rules in this area. Can you elaborate?


Under Title IX you cannot discriminate against women in your school, and still take federal funding.

In the past 5-10 years this has been expanded by case law and by statute to require schools to have a sexual harassment and sexual violence prevention policy, to investigate all claims of harassment, abuse, rape, domestic violence, and stalking. Every single member of the college community* is a mandated reporter who is REQUIRED to have bring this to the Title IX coordinator of the school.

The new law- the campus SAVE act- prohibits against retaliation, which includes punishing a student for reporting a sexual assault while drinking, and the updated Violence Against Women Act includes men, women,  the LBGT community, illegal immigrants and Native Americans.

The Department of Education has been cracking down on this- Yale, Penn State, University of Montana have all taken very large fines, terrible PR and been forced to update their policies and send every single staff member to training.

By 10/1/14, every single student at an ED accredited university is REQUIRED to be given comprehensive sexual harassment and sexual assault prevention training.

A school- like this one- that farks that up is going to have their funding yanked, and the I would not be surprised to discover that the people who work at the OCR are champing at the bit to knock these knuckle dragging troglodytes dicks in the dirt.


* except medical personnel
 
2014-02-20 04:55:31 PM

tiggis: I wonder how many women are raped at this school verses a secular school each year?


Under current law, they aren't required to report this because they don't take federal funds. Not sure how not being federally-funded gets you a license for obstruction of justice, but it's mentioned in the article.
 
2014-02-20 04:55:33 PM
FTA :   The self-policing that courtship culture requires, however, is not egalitarian. Responsibility falls disproportionately to women, who are taught to protect their "purity" and to never "tempt" their brothers in Christ to "stumble" with immodest behavior.


That's nice way of saying, "Don't be a slut."  If you let a man use you, he will, and you'll be nothing more than another conquest.


Also FTA : "The lack of men's responsibility or culpability for their own actions and the acceptance of male 'urges' as irresistible forces of nature is the understructure of Christian modesty movements and their secular counterpart,"


An acceptance of the fact that we are animals who have been deeply programmed by evolution.
 
2014-02-20 04:56:26 PM

what_now: Quick check of the website tells me that...

Because the College is recognized by the Department of Education as an eligible institution, PHC families are eligible to take advantage of student loans. To take advantage of these benefits, please be sure to use the College's OPE ID number 039513-00.

This school is utterly farked. Have fun with the Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights.


Also on their website

"In order to safeguard our distinctly Christian worldview, we do not accept or participate in government funding. We believe such financial independence to be a critical component of a Patrick Henry College education. As a result, the U.S. Department of Education (USDE) federal grant and loan programs, ROTC funds, G.I. Bill funds, and State funds, are not available to PHC students and their families. However, we are confident that our wide range of financial aid options can help bring one of the nation's finest classical, Christian liberal arts educations within the reach of students from many financial backgrounds."

Looks like they avoid federal education and civil rights compliance that way
 
2014-02-20 04:56:34 PM

what_now: A school- like this one- that farks that up is going to have their funding yanked


According to the article, they take no federal funding at all.
 
2014-02-20 04:56:35 PM

crab66: Boojum2k: ikanreed: Has anyone noticed that there aren't liberal schools where the rules say you have to obey liberal doctrine?

http://www.thefire.org/  might disagree with you.

What the fark.

How is this even remotely the same thing?

Please show me a school that actually forces people to smoke pot and play ultimate frisbee to attend.


Here you go.
 
2014-02-20 04:56:48 PM

ikanreed: scottydoesntknow: ikanreed: vudukungfu: People like this need to be purged from the land.

Are they the problem, or the system that created them?

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/Purge it all

Why not both?  Seriously?  For mass murder?  I'm just pretending you're serious, and wondering if you actually think killing them all is a good way to handle the broken right wing.


I'm glad you're pretending, because I am too.

I would like for them to be shut down though. That is serious.
 
2014-02-20 04:56:49 PM

Delawheredad: As reprehensible and twisted as this it it is, in essence, NO DIFFERENT from a major secular college protecting its male jocks from rape and molestations charges. At this school its ...but Jesus! at  a PAC 10 school its ... but TV money!


Agreed.
 
2014-02-20 04:57:05 PM

czetie: ikanreed: Has anyone noticed that there aren't liberal schools where the rules say you have to obey liberal doctrine?

Fundamentally, the conservative brain is stimulated by fear and disgust, and conservative leaders control their followers by ginning up fear and disgust against outsiders. Following the rules is how you identify fellow insiders. And of course this is why conservative movements are so vulnerable to purity purges (see, for instance, RINOs).

Conversely, the liberal brain is stimulated by novelty and risk. You can no more enforce rules on liberals than you can herd cats, and this is why left wing movements are so prone to fragmentation.

tl:dr: Conservatives are Sparta. Liberals are Athens.


At university, whether the prof is a lib or con, you figure out what he or she wants to hear, and then you say that.

/oh, yes, parroting the libby lib profs is being open minded
 
2014-02-20 04:57:07 PM
Maybe PHC is simply upholding a Biblical view of rape.

We'll have to wait and see if PHC forces the girl to marry her rapist, I guess.
 
2014-02-20 04:57:18 PM
Strolpol:
That being said, if I had a daughter who was assaulted and the lady who worked for the college implied that it was her own fault, I don't think they'd manage to pull me off her until I'd gouged at least one eye out.

Bravo.   You pass the compassion test, I'd give you an internet--but that would inevitably ruin you.    Have a cookie instead!

/+1 cookie
 
2014-02-20 04:57:33 PM
Didn't anybody RTFA??  The "rape", subtarmitter, was something along the lines of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv4YAx1nqDM

It might be some kind of crime, but it's not an OMG!!! RAPIST GOES FREE event either.  Don't let your hatred of all things Christian make you lose your collective fark heads out there.
 
2014-02-20 04:58:13 PM

czetie: what_now: This school is utterly farked. Have fun with the Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights.

Unfortunately, PHC grads are deeply entrenched within DC's power structures. Also, taking them on would set off every False Outrage Alarm that the right can muster.


Bring it.

Go ahead and tell the world that you're being picked on because you won't stop rape on your campus.
 
2014-02-20 04:58:14 PM

CivicMindedFive: It might be some kind of crime


What's described in the article is certainly sexual assault.
 
2014-02-20 04:58:44 PM

hardinparamedic: Ah, this must be the imaginary "rape culture" that everyone is always telling me doesn't exist, and is a creation of evil feminist nazi soldiers.


Yes, because students at scary evangelical schools regularly attend science, tech, atheist, and gaming conventions.

/Seriously, that's the only context where I hear feminists level "rape culture" accusations.
 
2014-02-20 04:58:50 PM

Boojum2k: So Patrick Henry College gets to ignore most federal laws on sexual assault on campus because they don't take federal funds? How about we stop letting colleges pretend to do law enforcement, period. College administrators shouldn't be in the loop for any actual crime investigation.


They most certainly do.
 
2014-02-20 04:59:34 PM
Wow. That school is thoroughly repulsive.

I cannot understand anyone who thinks that this kind of oppressive programming of their children is in any way acceptable. If your ideas are so weak that they cannot survive the light of day and you need to isolate your children to ensure the programming takes ... well, your ideas are farked.

Grow up and let your children grow up to be whole people.
 
2014-02-20 04:59:36 PM
Fark has assured me that the real cause of rape is feminism.
 
2014-02-20 04:59:36 PM

ikanreed: vudukungfu: People like this need to be purged from the land.

Are they the problem, or the system that created them?


No, just them.
 
2014-02-20 05:00:02 PM
Wherever there are fundies, fun dies.
 
2014-02-20 05:00:28 PM

CivicMindedFive: Didn't anybody RTFA??  The "rape", subtarmitter, was something along the lines of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv4YAx1nqDM

It might be some kind of crime, but it's not an OMG!!! RAPIST GOES FREE event either.  Don't let your hatred of all things Christian make you lose your collective fark heads out there.


Oh and here comes the white knight charging in...
 
2014-02-20 05:00:34 PM

what_now: They most certainly do.


On one hand, we have you saying that. On the other hand, we have the article, and specifics were posted in this thread.
 
2014-02-20 05:01:06 PM

tiggis: I wonder how many women are raped at this school verses a secular school each year?


Plenty. The main difference is that they normally marry their rapist. Deuteronomy 22:28-29
 
2014-02-20 05:01:14 PM

legion_of_doo: At university, whether the prof is a lib or con, you figure out what he or she wants to hear, and then you say that.


Bullshiat.  I argued against my polisci prof in every single paper and got pretty decent grades.  And the number of times in literature classes I was flagrantly wrong and but presented the incorrect ideas well and got good grades.

Now Math profs, there's people you better tell what they want to hear.
 
2014-02-20 05:02:10 PM
Looks like Patrick Henry College got wind of this article being written.

The #1 comment at the bottom of the article is some d-bag implying liberal bias at the National Republic saying that they are eagerly awaiting such thorough coverage of sexual assault at liberal institutions like UCLA.

Wow.
 
2014-02-20 05:02:19 PM
Those far-right-wingers won't be happy until the US looks like the Christian Taliban took over.
 
2014-02-20 05:02:49 PM

ikanreed: Now Math profs, there's people you better tell what they want to hear.


"But I'm right, in base 8!"
 
2014-02-20 05:02:52 PM

Rwa2play: CivicMindedFive: Didn't anybody RTFA??  The "rape", subtarmitter, was something along the lines of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv4YAx1nqDM

It might be some kind of crime, but it's not an OMG!!! RAPIST GOES FREE event either.  Don't let your hatred of all things Christian make you lose your collective fark heads out there.

Oh and here comes the white knight charging in...



In chapter 37 of TFA it says he dry humped her.

Is that rape?
 
2014-02-20 05:03:04 PM

USCLaw2010: "In order to safeguard our distinctly Christian worldview, we do not accept or participate in government funding. We believe such financial independence to be a critical component of a Patrick Henry College education. As a result, the U.S. Department of Education (USDE) federal grant and loan programs, ROTC funds, G.I. Bill funds, and State funds, are not available to PHC students and their families. However, we are confident that our wide range of financial aid options can help bring one of the nation's finest classical, Christian liberal arts educations within the reach of students from many financial backgrounds."

Looks like they avoid federal education and civil rights compliance that way


Not if they have an OPEID number- if you can write off your tuition paid on your taxes, that's federal funding. A different school tried that to avoid the ADA- cannot remember who- and got smacked down in court.
 
2014-02-20 05:03:12 PM
That was a long read for "in the end, she joined the Rainbow Family in Florida".
 
2014-02-20 05:03:17 PM
Many students go there with dreams of becoming a senator or the Supreme Court justice who helps overturn Roe v. Wade.

So, assholes.
 
2014-02-20 05:03:29 PM

TomD9938: Is that rape?


It's sexual assault.
 
2014-02-20 05:03:30 PM

cefm: Looks like Patrick Henry College got wind of this article being written.

The #1 comment at the bottom of the article is some d-bag implying liberal bias at the National Republic saying that they are eagerly awaiting such thorough coverage of sexual assault at liberal institutions like UCLA.

Wow.


Some Farker oughtta go over there and post PENN STATE, YOU DOLT!
 
2014-02-20 05:03:33 PM
"God would have kept you conscious to bear witness to the abuse against you."

Jesus H. Motherf*ck.
 
2014-02-20 05:03:36 PM
F*cking gross:

Listening to Sarah from across her desk, the dean was as polite as ever. But she didn't seem to believe Sarah's story at all. "If you were telling the truth about this," Sarah remembers Corbitt saying, "God would have kept you conscious to bear witness to the abuse against you."
 
2014-02-20 05:03:42 PM

ikanreed: Has anyone noticed that there aren't liberal schools where the rules say you have to obey liberal doctrine?


Peer pressure is a kind of rule.
 
2014-02-20 05:03:51 PM

cefm: The #1 comment at the bottom of the article is some d-bag implying liberal bias at the National Republic saying that they are eagerly awaiting such thorough coverage of sexual assault at liberal institutions like UCLA.


Looks like you found Ken Cuccinelli's internet identity.
 
2014-02-20 05:04:00 PM
 If a boy and a girl start becoming friends, before long, they'll sit down and have a "DTR"-Define The Relationship

They misspelled "DTF".
 
2014-02-20 05:05:00 PM

CivicMindedFive: The "rape", subtarmitter, was something along the lines of this.


Was it unwanted sexual contact? Did she tell him to stop?

Look if a bigger guy, a stronger guy, comes up to you and rubs his dick all over you, but doesn't actually force it into your ass, will you feel violated?
 
2014-02-20 05:05:06 PM

Boojum2k: TomD9938: Is that rape?

It's sexual assault.


Is that a "yes" or a "no"?
 
2014-02-20 05:05:20 PM
I like to think that every time a fundie says something this stupid I that some on-the-fence fundie at least stops and thinks about it for a second.

But OTOH it's beyond me how any parents would want their kids at a school that says rape is the victim's fault. They're idiots for leaving their kids there, and their kids are idiots for staying.
 
2014-02-20 05:05:43 PM

sendtodave: Peer pressure is a kind of rule.


"Wah, other people disagree with my opinions, how oppressive"
 
2014-02-20 05:05:44 PM
This administrator, Sandra Corbitt, is the epitome of evil.  She's party to unspeakable deeds and the perversion of truth.

I hope she roasts in a nice hot fire of her own creation.

/Pastafarian
 
2014-02-20 05:06:14 PM

Rwa2play: CivicMindedFive: Didn't anybody RTFA??  The "rape", subtarmitter, was something along the lines of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv4YAx1nqDM

It might be some kind of crime, but it's not an OMG!!! RAPIST GOES FREE event either.  Don't let your hatred of all things Christian make you lose your collective fark heads out there.

Oh and here comes the white knight charging in...


Did you actually RFTA?  Guy tries to get frisky with a girl who is his friend in his car.  She is stunned and says nothing but pushes him away.  Weeks later, still friends with him, she gets into his car alone again and he does the exact same thing, and this time she says no and he stops.  Is the guy probably a douche, yes.  But it's not rape as the sumtardmitter says.
 
2014-02-20 05:06:36 PM
This story has pretty much every reason why I hate religion.  I feel disgusting just for having read it.
 
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