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(Talking Points Memo)   Archdiocese shutters school for lack of funds, builds $500,000 addition to Archbishop's already palatial home. Looks like Scumbag Steve wears a miter   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 126
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2014-02-20 12:57:38 PM
what a farking racket!
 
2014-02-20 01:00:45 PM
He ought to make it worthwhile for himself. It's not like he got into Archbishoping for the pussy.
 
2014-02-20 01:36:39 PM
A spokesman for the archdiocese told Powell that the press has gotten some of the details wrong, noting that the addition will include a whirlpool and not a hot tub.

That's funny and sad all at the same time.
 
2014-02-20 01:38:50 PM
Tax them.
 
2014-02-20 01:52:44 PM

scottydoesntknow: A spokesman for the archdiocese told Powell that the press has gotten some of the details wrong, noting that the addition will include a whirlpool and not a hot tub.

That's funny and sad all at the same time.


Came here to point just that out. It really speaks to how little they understand the issue if THAT is what they are focusing on. It's like a dictator objecting to the accusations he's oppressing his people and hanging dissidents by pointing out that he's having them shot and not hanging them.
 
2014-02-20 01:58:59 PM
That seems overly ostentatious, but $500k isn't likely to keep a school operating very long.

/$800k for 4500 square feet would be a bargain here.
 
2014-02-20 01:59:51 PM

From Philly to Boston: Tax them.


yuuuup.
 
2014-02-20 02:04:32 PM

Ashyukun: scottydoesntknow: A spokesman for the archdiocese told Powell that the press has gotten some of the details wrong, noting that the addition will include a whirlpool and not a hot tub.

That's funny and sad all at the same time.

Came here to point just that out. It really speaks to how little they understand the issue if THAT is what they are focusing on. It's like a dictator objecting to the accusations he's oppressing his people and hanging dissidents by pointing out that he's having them shot and not hanging them.


"Excuse me, but I thought these people were journalists. The hangings have all been done with hempen rope, not the inferior nylon as reported in the libelous newspapers."
 
2014-02-20 02:07:10 PM

Nabb1: That seems overly ostentatious, but $500k isn't likely to keep a school operating very long.

/$800k for 4500 square feet would be a bargain here.


Yes, but considering  that the Archdiocese wasn't actually funding the entire school budget, but only providing between $100K to $200K in support, that $500K could've gone to better use to the school, I think.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/archdiocese_of_newark_to_cl os e.html

"The archdiocese says it provided between $100,000 and $200,000 to help the schools cover the costs of books, electricity and heart and teacher salaries. "
 
2014-02-20 02:07:56 PM

FlashHarry: From Philly to Boston: Tax them.

yuuuup.


It's not a house of worship, so I think they pay property taxes on it. If the Archbishop lives there for free, he has to declare fair rental value as part of his earnings for calculation of income tax. I don't think Archbishops are personally exempt from taxation on earned income.
 
2014-02-20 02:12:23 PM

Nabb1: FlashHarry: From Philly to Boston: Tax them.

yuuuup.

It's not a house of worship, so I think they pay property taxes on it. If the Archbishop lives there for free, he has to declare fair rental value as part of his earnings for calculation of income tax. I don't think Archbishops are personally exempt from taxation on earned income.


i sure hope that's the case. either way, they're certainly not living in "the imitation of christ."
 
2014-02-20 02:14:34 PM

scottydoesntknow: A spokesman for the archdiocese told Powell that the press has gotten some of the details wrong, noting that the addition will include a whirlpool and not a hot tub.

That's funny and sad all at the same time.


That hot tub is necessary for those frequent priest & altar boy parties.
 
2014-02-20 02:15:38 PM
Correction, subby. The $500,000 addition is to his VACATION home, not his regular home.
 
2014-02-20 02:17:31 PM

FlashHarry: Nabb1: FlashHarry: From Philly to Boston: Tax them.

yuuuup.

It's not a house of worship, so I think they pay property taxes on it. If the Archbishop lives there for free, he has to declare fair rental value as part of his earnings for calculation of income tax. I don't think Archbishops are personally exempt from taxation on earned income.

i sure hope that's the case. either way, they're certainly not living in "the imitation of christ."


IRS says clergy pay federal income taxes. Housing allowances or a ministerial home "may" be exempt under some circumstances depending on the earnings of the clergyperson in question (and I doubt this would be one of them, or at least I would hope not).
 
2014-02-20 02:26:54 PM
However, you can request an exemption from self-employment tax for your ministerial earnings, if you are opposed to certain public insurance for religious or conscientious reasons. You cannot request exemption for economic reasons.

Hee hee.... classic. I wonder if the Church can come up with some reason ...?
 
2014-02-20 02:32:19 PM
The house in the article they linked looks butt-ugly, too.
 
2014-02-20 02:34:27 PM
I know the proper course of action for this sort of thing.

farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2014-02-20 02:40:21 PM

RexTalionis: Nabb1: That seems overly ostentatious, but $500k isn't likely to keep a school operating very long.

/$800k for 4500 square feet would be a bargain here.

Yes, but considering  that the Archdiocese wasn't actually funding the entire school budget, but only providing between $100K to $200K in support, that $500K could've gone to better use to the school, I think.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/archdiocese_of_newark_to_cl os e.html

"The archdiocese says it provided between $100,000 and $200,000 to help the schools cover the costs of books, electricity and heart and teacher salaries. "


Not knowing anything more about the school other than the contribution that the Archdiocese made, it's difficult to determine if the $500K would have helped sustain the school. The school could have been facing declining enrollment, with no real chance of it increasing. There were probably better uses for that $500K.

That being said: the $500K addition to the Archbishop's retirement home is not one of those better uses.

Hopefully, The Pope converts it to a halfway house for those with drug & alcohol problems or something.
 
2014-02-20 02:59:45 PM
Wonder how long until Pope Francis turns the house into a soup kitchen like he did in France(?)?
 
2014-02-20 03:00:17 PM
Something something vow of poverty...
 
2014-02-20 03:15:50 PM

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: Wonder how long until Pope Francis turns the house into a soup kitchen like he did in France(?)?


That was Germany, and the Archbishop there had spent $42 million on an upgrade, which is quite a bit more than $500k.
 
2014-02-20 03:27:56 PM
For the annual "Archbishop's Appeal," New Jersey Catholics should put this article in the return envelope.
 
2014-02-20 03:28:37 PM
On the positive side, maybe the potential students of that school will now get their educations at a non-religious institution and thereby learn more truth and reason, less fairy tales and obedience.  So, in the long run it could be a very good thing.  One of those students might go on to create something great now.
 
2014-02-20 03:29:03 PM
Until the Pope turns the house into a homeless shelter, that is.
 
2014-02-20 03:29:18 PM
You throw down half a mil for a retirement rapeatroium and there's just not much money left.
 
2014-02-20 03:30:22 PM
Oh shiat, Frankies gonna be mad!
 
2014-02-20 03:30:41 PM
Once again, what the new pope says doesn't mean jack shiat if the church doesn't actually make any real changes.
 
2014-02-20 03:31:22 PM
Watch out, Archy, Jesus is coming back with AR-15 and gonna f*ck you up.

Just kidding, Jesus hates poor school children and wants all y'all to get rich as you possibly can.
 
2014-02-20 03:31:27 PM
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2014-02-20 03:31:53 PM

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: Wonder how long until Pope Francis turns the house into a soup kitchen like he did in France(?)? Germany


There you go.

This Pope does frown on these shenanigans.
 
2014-02-20 03:31:57 PM

Nabb1: That seems overly ostentatious, but $500k isn't likely to keep a school operating very long.

/$800k for 4500 square feet would be a bargain here.


But...the OUTRAGE!!!

 the home already boasts five bedrooms, three bathrooms, a three-car garage and an outdoor swimming pool.

Yeah, so does mine, and it also boasts a lot more square footage. Not nealy the market value, though, even though I have 6 acres of land. It's almost like different markets may value property differently.

/Hope nobody ever lets slip how much some of the clergy homes in the southern California area are worth.
 
2014-02-20 03:32:56 PM
100 thousand here 100 thousand there and soon you are talking about real money...
 
2014-02-20 03:33:40 PM

FlashHarry: either way, they're certainly not living in "the imitation of christ."


No, it's not Christ they seem to imitate.
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2014-02-20 03:34:02 PM
The Borgias approve
 
2014-02-20 03:34:14 PM
Why does he need so many bedrooms?
 
2014-02-20 03:34:35 PM

FlashHarry: From Philly to Boston: Tax them.

yuuuup.


The church down the street has a sign out front that says "Financed by God only".  I get pissed every time I drive.  Total racket.
 
2014-02-20 03:34:44 PM
You can't just keep the naked little boys in the main house.  What would company think?  A room of their own, you see.
 
2014-02-20 03:37:19 PM

Carousel Beast: Nabb1: That seems overly ostentatious, but $500k isn't likely to keep a school operating very long.

/$800k for 4500 square feet would be a bargain here.

But...the OUTRAGE!!!

 the home already boasts five bedrooms, three bathrooms, a three-car garage and an outdoor swimming pool.

Yeah, so does mine, and it also boasts a lot more square footage. Not nealy the market value, though, even though I have 6 acres of land. It's almost like different markets may value property differently.

/Hope nobody ever lets slip how much some of the clergy homes in the southern California area are worth.


To be fair, a cardboard box in SoCal would cost $80k if it was in the right location.
 
2014-02-20 03:37:56 PM
Please explain what is meant by bedrooms in the context of a house. Whenever I read an article I was wondering "so, it has 5 bedrooms, but how many rooms does it have?". The stories never tells how many rooms a house has, only how many bedrooms.

I came to wonder, is any room, that is not a kitchen or a bathroom, referred to as a bedroom? If not, why the fascination with bedrooms in particular?
 
2014-02-20 03:38:26 PM

mjohnson71: Why does he need so many bedrooms?


For when his "nephews" bring their "girlfriends".
 
2014-02-20 03:38:36 PM

FlashHarry: From Philly to Boston: Tax them.

yuuuup.


Great idea. The reason the Wesboro baptist church has managed to defeat every legal challenge brought against them is because they are incorperated and pay full taxes. If they were a not for profit or a religious entity under 501-3c the government could really get into their business and tell them what they can and cannot say.

J
 
2014-02-20 03:39:39 PM
It's simple.  Remove the tax exemption for churches and they can do whatever the hell they want with their funds.
 
2014-02-20 03:41:09 PM

what_now: Something something vow of poverty...


Not surprising when you realize these 'men of God' are truly 'men of gold'.

They don't give a shiat about saving souls (other than making sure that THEIR soul lives in comfort while still alive).
 
2014-02-20 03:41:45 PM
Didn't the Pope just sack an Archbishop for this type of crap?
 
2014-02-20 03:44:33 PM
Well, in fairness, if it comes down to a choice between living as a celibate priest in a castle or living as a normal person, I think he's still getting the short end of the stick.

/ pun intended
 
2014-02-20 03:47:26 PM
The pope's gonna be pissed.
 
2014-02-20 03:47:38 PM

what_now: Something something vow of poverty...



Not every order takes a vow of poverty.
And even if they did, they could simply say, "This isn't my _________. It belongs to the church. I'm just allowed to use it."
 
2014-02-20 03:48:18 PM

spawn73: Please explain what is meant by bedrooms in the context of a house. Whenever I read an article I was wondering "so, it has 5 bedrooms, but how many rooms does it have?". The stories never tells how many rooms a house has, only how many bedrooms.

I came to wonder, is any room, that is not a kitchen or a bathroom, referred to as a bedroom? If not, why the fascination with bedrooms in particular?


I would assume because they're an easy way to evaluate how many people can comfortably live in the house? It's not a perfect metric- I've stayed in vacation homes that essentially have 3-4 master bedroom suites, which is a far cry from a house with a master bedroom and a few 10'x10' boxes for kids.

People have crazy ideas about real-estate and how it should be viewed. In my city, a water closet (just  a toilet and a sink) costs more than a full bathroom with respect to water bill and taxes, because the assumption is that rich people will have half-bathrooms in addition to full bathrooms, while poor people will likely have one or two full bathrooms.
 
2014-02-20 03:48:28 PM

scotchlandia: FlashHarry: From Philly to Boston: Tax them.

yuuuup.

Great idea. The reason the Wesboro baptist church has managed to defeat every legal challenge brought against them is because they are incorperated and pay full taxes. If they were a not for profit or a religious entity under 501-3c the government could really get into their business and tell them what they can and cannot say.

J


Hey look, a non-sequitor.
 
2014-02-20 03:50:21 PM
Isn't there some part of him that feels like an asshole for looking like that?

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