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(CBC)   Radically new 'Copenhagen Wheel' promises to reshape world of cycling, add to increasing cost, complexity and pretentiousness of cycling (pics)   (cbc.ca ) divider line
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2014-02-20 12:57:10 PM  
Great, so pretentious Lance Armstrong wannabes can act like bigger douchebags.

Awesome.
 
2014-02-20 01:01:09 PM  
You can re-imagine it anyway you want. It's still an electric moped.
 
2014-02-20 01:34:45 PM  
Ugh...I hate myself that I know this, but this was a "plot" point on Weeds
 
2014-02-20 01:42:39 PM  

zappadog: Ugh...I hate myself that I know this, but this was a "plot" point on Weeds


I remember the same thing. Andy was selling them. So how "new" can this thing be?
 
2014-02-20 01:51:10 PM  

cgraves67: You can re-imagine it anyway you want. It's still an electric moped.


No, it's an electric bike. A moped has a gas motor that you pedal to get started. There's nothing "electric" about a moped.
 
2014-02-20 01:59:25 PM  

Mikey1969: No, it's an electric bike. A moped has a gas motor that you pedal to get started. There's nothing "electric" about a moped.


This calls for some sort of "interpretation" of what the Copenhagen wheel makes a bike.
 
2014-02-20 02:06:01 PM  
I used to use a Copenhagen wheel, but after my wife got thyroid cancer I figured it would be a good idea for me to stop dipping snuff.
 
2014-02-20 02:11:14 PM  

Skleenar: Mikey1969: No, it's an electric bike. A moped has a gas motor that you pedal to get started. There's nothing "electric" about a moped.

This calls for some sort of "interpretation" of what the Copenhagen wheel makes a bike.


Heavy and clunky? Seriously though, I've looked at these and always wondered if they are anything like the old school generators that they used to use to power headlights with. Obviously more efficient, but do they add a ton of drag and make the whole thing less efficient overall? When I was in my 20s, I rode a bike everywhere, and lighter was always better, so it's always seemed like these were just like dragging a boat anchor, but I've never had the chance to ride a bike with one and would love to know more about them.
 
2014-02-20 02:12:47 PM  

dittybopper: I used to use a Copenhagen wheel, but after my wife got thyroid cancer I figured it would be a good idea for me to stop dipping snuff.


I switched to the pouch because it was cleaner. Once that wheel got spinning, the juice would get everywhere.
 
2014-02-20 02:12:56 PM  
Sweet...bike thread where we get to point out that everyone who rides a bike is a douche and totally inferior to you.
 
2014-02-20 02:20:04 PM  

Mikey1969: Skleenar: Mikey1969: No, it's an electric bike. A moped has a gas motor that you pedal to get started. There's nothing "electric" about a moped.

This calls for some sort of "interpretation" of what the Copenhagen wheel makes a bike.

Heavy and clunky? Seriously though, I've looked at these and always wondered if they are anything like the old school generators that they used to use to power headlights with. Obviously more efficient, but do they add a ton of drag and make the whole thing less efficient overall? When I was in my 20s, I rode a bike everywhere, and lighter was always better, so it's always seemed like these were just like dragging a boat anchor, but I've never had the chance to ride a bike with one and would love to know more about them.


It only recharges when you're braking or coasting, like the way hybrid cars work, so it shouldn't make you much less efficient. It'd add inertia to the back wheel, so I guess accelerating will be a little harder. The help going up hill would be handy, though, especially if like TFA says you're riding to work an don't want to get your heart rate too high so you don't sweat. I'd buy it for that if I had $800 to blow. I don't think actual cyclists will want them.
 
2014-02-20 02:22:04 PM  

Mikey1969: cgraves67: You can re-imagine it anyway you want. It's still an electric moped.

No, it's an electric bike. A moped has a gas motor that you pedal to get started. There's nothing "electric" about a moped.


So, you're saying it's like a two-wheeled Tesla Roadster? ;)
 
2014-02-20 02:23:56 PM  

neon_god: actual cyclists


American cyclist:

upload.wikimedia.org


Eurpoean cyclist:

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-20 02:30:54 PM  
does it only come in "steal me" red?
 
2014-02-20 02:31:12 PM  

tricycleracer: neon_god: actual cyclists

American cyclist:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 407x322]


Eurpoean cyclist:

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 730x450]


Yeah, I meant people who do it as a sport. There are a lot more spandex clad douches in Europe than the US. Commuters are the market for this.
 
2014-02-20 02:37:18 PM  
All it is is like a powerful "smart" spring that you wind up when going downhill and braking, and that regurgitates the energy used to wind it when you go up hill. Clever idea theoretically, but whether and how much it actually helps in practice is the key.
 
2014-02-20 02:38:17 PM  

Theaetetus: Mikey1969: cgraves67: You can re-imagine it anyway you want. It's still an electric moped.

No, it's an electric bike. A moped has a gas motor that you pedal to get started. There's nothing "electric" about a moped.

So, you're saying it's like a two-wheeled Tesla Roadster? ;)


0-60 in 3.7 seconds? That would be a scary bicycle! :-)
 
2014-02-20 02:41:29 PM  
approves?

b.fastcompany.net
 
2014-02-20 02:42:24 PM  

neon_god: It only recharges when you're braking or coasting, like the way hybrid cars work, so it shouldn't make you much less efficient. It'd add inertia to the back wheel, so I guess accelerating will be a little harder. The help going up hill would be handy, though, especially if like TFA says you're riding to work an don't want to get your heart rate too high so you don't sweat. I'd buy it for that if I had $800 to blow. I don't think actual cyclists will want them.


Yeah, if it doesn't add significant drag the rest of the time, that would be pretty cool as a commuter thing. I can't see it eliminating drag 100%, there's still a device there, but as long as you're not having to fight it just to get the bike up to speed, it would be pretty cool. I wonder how much braking and coasting you need to build up... When I lived in Flagstaff, for example, everywhere I went was uphill both ways, it really kind of sucked, I wonder if it would be too much, whereas somewhere like Phx that was(mostly) flat would be useless in the other direction...
 
2014-02-20 02:44:27 PM  
But the article left out one important fact: whether it can only be used on annoying hipster fixies or if it can be used on actual useful bicycles as well.
 
2014-02-20 03:10:01 PM  

Ashyukun: hipster fixies


My new band.  You've probably never heard of it.
 
2014-02-20 03:14:34 PM  
Perhaps the Dutch could add a steering mechanism to it.
 
2014-02-20 03:34:47 PM  

Mikey1969: Yeah, if it doesn't add significant drag the rest of the time, that would be pretty cool as a commuter thing. I can't see it eliminating drag 100%, there's still a device there, but as long as you're not having to fight it just to get the bike up to speed, it would be pretty cool. I wonder how much braking and coasting you need to build up... When I lived in Flagstaff, for example, everywhere I went was uphill both ways, it really kind of sucked, I wonder if it would be too much, whereas somewhere like Phx that was(mostly) flat would be useless in the other direction...


I am not sure you would live long enough to find out if you were riding a bicycle in Phoenix.
 
2014-02-20 03:35:15 PM  
If they make one for off-road bikes, I'd consider getting one so I could keep up with my kids.

/Only option now is to make them drag bricks through the woods...
 
2014-02-20 03:43:13 PM  

fonebone77: Mikey1969: Yeah, if it doesn't add significant drag the rest of the time, that would be pretty cool as a commuter thing. I can't see it eliminating drag 100%, there's still a device there, but as long as you're not having to fight it just to get the bike up to speed, it would be pretty cool. I wonder how much braking and coasting you need to build up... When I lived in Flagstaff, for example, everywhere I went was uphill both ways, it really kind of sucked, I wonder if it would be too much, whereas somewhere like Phx that was(mostly) flat would be useless in the other direction...

I am not sure you would live long enough to find out if you were riding a bicycle in Phoenix.


I did fine for 7-8 years... It was sometimes easier to deal with the heat than in a car, actually, and dodging traffic wasn't hard, as long as you brought your 'A' game...
 
2014-02-20 03:44:08 PM  

Skleenar: Mikey1969: No, it's an electric bike. A moped has a gas motor that you pedal to get started. There's nothing "electric" about a moped.

This calls for some sort of "interpretation" of what the Copenhagen wheel makes a bike.


A hybrid bike. It only assists cycling. Also you can't charge it like an electric bike, it gets all its energy when you coast downhill or brake.

It's farking useless on long flat roads, and doesn't work with handbrakes. It probably doesn't have any gears, and if it does, they'll be the useless internal kind. So this requires more energy to use than a normal bike with external gears.
 
2014-02-20 03:45:51 PM  

neon_god: Mikey1969: Skleenar: Mikey1969: No, it's an electric bike. A moped has a gas motor that you pedal to get started. There's nothing "electric" about a moped.

This calls for some sort of "interpretation" of what the Copenhagen wheel makes a bike.

Heavy and clunky? Seriously though, I've looked at these and always wondered if they are anything like the old school generators that they used to use to power headlights with. Obviously more efficient, but do they add a ton of drag and make the whole thing less efficient overall? When I was in my 20s, I rode a bike everywhere, and lighter was always better, so it's always seemed like these were just like dragging a boat anchor, but I've never had the chance to ride a bike with one and would love to know more about them.

It only recharges when you're braking or coasting, like the way hybrid cars work, so it shouldn't make you much less efficient. It'd add inertia to the back wheel, so I guess accelerating will be a little harder. The help going up hill would be handy, though, especially if like TFA says you're riding to work an don't want to get your heart rate too high so you don't sweat. I'd buy it for that if I had $800 to blow. I don't think actual cyclists will want them.


Why not just buy an electric assisted bike. They have a battery that you charge, and you select how much they assist. Ie. 10-90%.

Also, they're not retarted like this bike.
 
2014-02-20 04:04:51 PM  
spawn73:
Why not just buy an electric assisted bike. They have a battery that you charge, and you select how much they assist. Ie. 10-90%.

Also, they're not retarted like this bike.


The Copenhagen wheel can be charged by plugging it into a charger just like any other electric bike.  http://www.superpedestrian.com/faqs.html  I think the advantage they're promoting is interchangability.  You can put this on for your daily commute and then take it off and switch to a standard rear wheel on days where you just want to ride, without having anything other than a smart phone holder left on your bike as excess baggage.  I'm not sure how you'd work out chain length issues though.
 
2014-02-20 04:07:41 PM  
I commute by bike damn near every day. There are hills on my ride. There is no way in hell I would trade in my current set up for that thing. I could see electric assist if you have a cargo bike, or if you're fat.

/smug
 
2014-02-20 04:20:28 PM  
Cool. I was worried we weren't getting fat enough as a nation
 
2014-02-20 04:35:21 PM  
Why not just buy an electric assisted bike. They have a battery that you charge, and you select how much they assist. Ie. 10-90%.

Also, they're not retarted like this bike.


Because this wheel can go on any bike and turn it into an e-bike. If you already have a $2,000 bike, you could just change the back wheel.

Not to mention, not every part of the world uses bikes for recreation. For some people this simply extends the range of a vehicle that they need very much for utilitarian purposes. I think they're brilliant.

/Has a Trek Aluminum, Trek Full Carbon, and a Catrike Expedition
//Rode a bike across America
///Not a douche...even though I snark in comments
 
2014-02-20 05:33:05 PM  

tricycleracer: neon_god: actual cyclists

American cyclist:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 407x322]


Eurpoean Portland, Oregon cyclist:

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 730x450]


ftfy

but I just moved from Portland to the burbs cause I dare to ride the wrong kind of bike:
fcdn.mtbr.com
being wrong never felt so right
 
2014-02-20 05:33:47 PM  
And here I thought Copenhagen wheel was the name of a new EPO that they couldn't test for yet.
 
2014-02-20 06:57:49 PM  

mudmin: Why not just buy an electric assisted bike. They have a battery that you charge, and you select how much they assist. Ie. 10-90%.

Also, they're not retarted like this bike.

Because this wheel can go on any bike and turn it into an e-bike. If you already have a $2,000 bike, you could just change the back wheel.

Not to mention, not every part of the world uses bikes for recreation. For some people this simply extends the range of a vehicle that they need very much for utilitarian purposes. I think they're brilliant.

/Has a Trek Aluminum, Trek Full Carbon, and a Catrike Expedition
//Rode a bike across America
///Not a douche...even though I snark in comments


All this. Plus,$800 for a full wheel won't even phase the real bike geeks. I'm pretty sure you could drop that pretty easily on existing rear wheel sets.
 
2014-02-20 09:40:26 PM  
Yeah...it's not hard to spend $2000 to $3000 on a wheelset.  A lot of people spend $3-$10 per gram they save on their bike.

My thought is that it's a lot easier/cheaper to take weight off me than the bike.  Even on my carbon bike I ride with a super strong $150 wheelset that's built for touring. I've never had to true them over the course of thousands of miles.
 
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