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(Some Guy)   Rise and shine, Mr Freeman. Rise and shine. Developer screen shots indicate Half Life 3 may be in the works   (muktware.com) divider line 97
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2014-02-20 02:15:10 PM  

Tyrosine: MadMattressMack: \I'm hoping for it to be included with every Steam Box purchase, but that's not likely to happen.

There was an interview with Gabe Newell a few months back where he discusses the Steam Box (which should be called Steam Engines FYI) and why they haven't put out HL3. In short, he says they put HL3 (and I assume L4D3) on the back burner in order to focus on the upcoming console.

That being said releasing HL3 as a Steam exclusive would probably prompt a lot of Steam Box sales. Up to this point Valve has always tried to release cross-platform, but they may need a hook to get console gamers to buy into another platform. They've indicated a late 2014 release date for the Steam Box, so the timing is right for HL3 screen shots to come out now.

That being said, I won't believe any HL3 rumors it until I see a pre-sale notice on Steam.


I won't believe any until the game says "Ready to Play" in Steam.
 
2014-02-20 02:17:56 PM  
LOL, thanks, but it definitely isn't Vista - I've never had a BSOD outside of HL2 crashing.  I did some googling a while back and was sort of able to reduce the HL2 crashes by manually updated my video drivers (stupid Alienware thinks old drivers are up to date, apparently, and won't update automagically).  They still aren't the most current, I don't think, but it's a royal pain in the ass.

I've also found a few instances from other people that they had the same issue - random drops to the Steam desktop for no apparent reason.  Very strange.

And yes, Vista does suck, but it has never ever crashed on me outside of HL2.  I didn't even know I COULD BSOD a Windows OS above 98SE.  Guess I was wrong...

\still loved the game.  I think I'm a junkie
 
2014-02-20 02:18:57 PM  
They failed to give us a proper ending to Half-Life 2 and that has lost a ton of goodwill from me. Didn't they pretty much promise us an Episode 3?
 
2014-02-20 02:25:52 PM  
After a few more years they will change the name to Halflife Fantasy XV.
 
2014-02-20 02:32:01 PM  

SkittlesAreYum: MadMattressMack: GavinTheAlmighty: akula: Yeah. At this point, although I'd have loved to get the rest of the story, why even bother now? It's been how long since Episode 2? Going on 7 years (seems longer)?

It's probably time to let it go.

Eh, it was seven years between Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time, eight years between Super Metroid and Metroid Prime, 9 years between Max Payne 2 and 3.  It's been a long time and we want it, but time doesn't mean we need to let go; just temper our expectations.

I feel bad for Valve, in a way.  They have nothing to do with the hype of it.

Sure they do. They are being specifically ambiguous. If they wanted to stop the hype they easily could release a statement. But they don't. They want the hype. It's free long term advertising.

A company is supposed to release a statement saying they AREN'T doing something every time some website decides they discovered a big scoop? They're not going to bother, even if they gain nothing from the ambiguity. Why even bother?


No, it's quite the opposite. They've even had release dates for Half Life 3 in the past. They've talked to the press. Their MO is to not comment in any way. Try reading this for a chronological overview of everything that's come out about HL3, up to and press announcements from Valve with release times. This isn't a bunch of fan boys dreaming in a vacuum. Valve is contributing and has actively said that silence is its answer. Including insiders who may have played HL3 and said their answer has to be silence as well.

http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Future_of_the_Half-Life_series
 
2014-02-20 02:35:29 PM  

somemoron: I didn't even know I COULD BSOD a Windows OS above 98SE.


You've never played with XP much.  ;)


Confabulat: They failed to give us a proper ending to Half-Life 2 and that has lost a ton of goodwill from me. Didn't they pretty much promise us an Episode 3?



From Wiki:

Since the release of Half-Life 2, Valve Corporation has released an additional level and two additional "expansion" sequels. The level "Lost Coast" was meant to take place between the levels "Highway 17" and "Sandtraps" and is primarily a showcase for high-dynamic-range rendering (HDR) technology. The first expansion sequel, Half-Life 2: Episode One, takes place immediately after the events of Half-Life 2, with the player taking on the role of Gordon Freeman once again and with Alyx Vance playing a more prominent role. Half-Life 2: Episode Two continues directly from the ending of Episode One, with Alyx and Gordon making their way to White Forest Missile base, a hideout of the resistance. A third episode is set to be released in the future, completing a trilogy.[88] In an interview with Eurogamer, Gabe Newell revealed that the Half-Life 2 "episodes" are essentially Half-Life 3.[89] He reasons that rather than force fans to wait another six years for a full sequel, Valve Corporation would release the game in episodic installments.[89] Newell stated that a more accurate title for these episodes would have been "Half-Life 3: Episode One" and so forth, having referred to the episodes as Half-Life 3 repeatedly through the interview.[89] In a May 2011 interview with Develop, Newell stated that the episodic model had been replaced by even shorter development cycles and continuous updates via Steam.[90]


Looks like Good 'Ol Gabe can't get his story straight. He says that he doesn't want people to wait around for years for a sequel (hence why he did the "episode" thing), then goes to pretty much say we already got HL3.
 
2014-02-20 02:36:30 PM  

p4p3rm4t3: Half life 3, Homeworld 3, and ESO makes me think of the forever alone guy in a soon meme.


ESO is in beta. I've done 3 beta weekends already.
 
2014-02-20 02:37:42 PM  

p4p3rm4t3: Half life 3, Homeworld 3, and ESO makes me think of the forever alone guy in a soon meme.



What do you mean by ESO? Because I assume Elder Scrolls Online... which I'm pretty sure is coming out. I played the beta as recent as like 2 weeks ago, and you can preorder it right now. It's actually coming out relatively soon. April IIRC off the top of my head...
 
2014-02-20 02:37:47 PM  

Confabulat: They failed to give us a proper ending to Half-Life 2 and that has lost a ton of goodwill from me. Didn't they pretty much promise us an Episode 3?


Bioshock Infinite was actually Episode 3. Gordon and Alyx fall into a cycle of depression and self doubt after Episode 2. They travel back in time, and Gordon takes on the identity of Booker to hide in the past. Alyx dies giving birth to Anna. After drowning Booker/Gordon, Elizabeth opens a tear resurrecting Gordon and that resurrected Gordon becomes the Gman. The Gman travels forward in time to begin the whole cycle oven again. Full circle.

/wish people would get me the info I need at work
 
2014-02-20 02:49:37 PM  

RoxtarRyan: somemoron: I didn't even know I COULD BSOD a Windows OS above 98SE.

You've never played with XP much.  ;)


Uh, heh.  Good point.  It happened a LOT less frequently though - so much I barely remember any instances of it happening.
 
2014-02-20 03:11:55 PM  
Hey I've invented a machine that will generate free money, but it's not in development.
 
2014-02-20 03:47:27 PM  

Tyrosine: MadMattressMack: \I'm hoping for it to be included with every Steam Box purchase, but that's not likely to happen.

There was an interview with Gabe Newell a few months back where he discusses the Steam Box (which should be called Steam Engines FYI) and why they haven't put out HL3. In short, he says they put HL3 (and I assume L4D3) on the back burner in order to focus on the upcoming console.

That being said releasing HL3 as a Steam exclusive would probably prompt a lot of Steam Box sales. Up to this point Valve has always tried to release cross-platform, but they may need a hook to get console gamers to buy into another platform. They've indicated a late 2014 release date for the Steam Box, so the timing is right for HL3 screen shots to come out now.

That being said, I won't believe any HL3 rumors it until I see a pre-sale notice on Steam.


Ding, ding, ding...

HL3 and Portal 3 Steam Box exclusives - book it, done.
 
2014-02-20 03:48:20 PM  
At this point, if Gabe Newell himself came to my door with a sealed copy of HL3 and apologized for the wait, I'd still think it was a hoax.
 
2014-02-20 03:49:14 PM  

Elzar: Tyrosine: MadMattressMack: \I'm hoping for it to be included with every Steam Box purchase, but that's not likely to happen.

There was an interview with Gabe Newell a few months back where he discusses the Steam Box (which should be called Steam Engines FYI) and why they haven't put out HL3. In short, he says they put HL3 (and I assume L4D3) on the back burner in order to focus on the upcoming console.

That being said releasing HL3 as a Steam exclusive would probably prompt a lot of Steam Box sales. Up to this point Valve has always tried to release cross-platform, but they may need a hook to get console gamers to buy into another platform. They've indicated a late 2014 release date for the Steam Box, so the timing is right for HL3 screen shots to come out now.

That being said, I won't believe any HL3 rumors it until I see a pre-sale notice on Steam.

Ding, ding, ding...

HL3 and Portal 3 Steam Box exclusives - book it, done.



Steam exclusives, maybe.  Steambox?  No.
 
2014-02-20 03:54:23 PM  
So that is why Gabe has been looking at my internet history.  They are making the perfect physical avitar based off of the average users preferences that you can duckwalk behind for about half of the game.
 
2014-02-20 04:52:45 PM  
With the money they're making hand-over-fist with their online games, I'd be surprised if we get a HL3.
 
2014-02-20 05:16:47 PM  

RevRaven: Half-Life 3 will be made, just like Team Fortress 2 was eventually released to much success.

I think the bigger store here, if this screenshot is accurate, is that Left 4 Dead 3 is in the works. It's been far too long since we've had some L4D action.

But yeah, the One Free man will return. Eventually.


Excellent point. TF2 was an incredible release, years after it was considered vaporware. I used to be excited for HL3, but to be honest, I never liked the post-apocalyptic aspect to it, I found it much more fun as a secret-plot-in-the-real-world situation. Also, I think the market has saturated itself nicely with AAA titles, and I fear HL3 won't be able to distinguish itself in today's market. Not like HL1 did all those years ago.

Still, it costs me nothing for them to try :P
 
2014-02-20 05:24:47 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Rev.K: I, like most Half Life fans, have simply resigned myself to the fact that Half Life 3 will never be made.

Ohh it'll be made, eventually.

The problem is it won't live up to the impossible hype surrounding it


I think an even bigger issue is what can Valve do to make it stand out from other FPS games?  HL2 was essentially a corridor shooter but they managed to mix up the gameplay(even if the vehicles controlled like epileptic marionettes) and the gravity gun was a great toy.  But really where can they go now that can create that kind of "WOW" again?
 
2014-02-20 05:26:43 PM  

Flappyhead: scottydoesntknow: Rev.K: I, like most Half Life fans, have simply resigned myself to the fact that Half Life 3 will never be made.

Ohh it'll be made, eventually.

The problem is it won't live up to the impossible hype surrounding it

I think an even bigger issue is what can Valve do to make it stand out from other FPS games?  HL2 was essentially a corridor shooter but they managed to mix up the gameplay(even if the vehicles controlled like epileptic marionettes) and the gravity gun was a great toy.  But really where can they go now that can create that kind of "WOW" again?


Time travel.  Puzzles involving portals, the same environments, looping through time.
 
2014-02-20 05:27:52 PM  

Elzar: Tyrosine: MadMattressMack: \I'm hoping for it to be included with every Steam Box purchase, but that's not likely to happen.

There was an interview with Gabe Newell a few months back where he discusses the Steam Box (which should be called Steam Engines FYI) and why they haven't put out HL3. In short, he says they put HL3 (and I assume L4D3) on the back burner in order to focus on the upcoming console.

That being said releasing HL3 as a Steam exclusive would probably prompt a lot of Steam Box sales. Up to this point Valve has always tried to release cross-platform, but they may need a hook to get console gamers to buy into another platform. They've indicated a late 2014 release date for the Steam Box, so the timing is right for HL3 screen shots to come out now.

That being said, I won't believe any HL3 rumors it until I see a pre-sale notice on Steam.

Ding, ding, ding...

HL3 and Portal 3 Steam Box exclusives - book it, done.


Gabe, you had me at Steam Box, HL3, Portal 3, and L4D3. If you released them all together can you tell me where I need to send all my money to?
 
2014-02-20 05:30:56 PM  
Shouldn't we be on L4D 6 now?
 
2014-02-20 05:39:04 PM  
Half-Life 3 has been "in the works" for years. Doesn't mean it's ever going to be released.
 
2014-02-20 05:46:18 PM  

BafflerMeal: Flappyhead: scottydoesntknow: Rev.K: I, like most Half Life fans, have simply resigned myself to the fact that Half Life 3 will never be made.

Ohh it'll be made, eventually.

The problem is it won't live up to the impossible hype surrounding it

I think an even bigger issue is what can Valve do to make it stand out from other FPS games?  HL2 was essentially a corridor shooter but they managed to mix up the gameplay(even if the vehicles controlled like epileptic marionettes) and the gravity gun was a great toy.  But really where can they go now that can create that kind of "WOW" again?

Time travel.  Puzzles involving portals, the same environments, looping through time.


I already played Bioshock Infinite.
 
2014-02-20 05:48:20 PM  

Flappyhead: BafflerMeal: Flappyhead: scottydoesntknow: Rev.K: I, like most Half Life fans, have simply resigned myself to the fact that Half Life 3 will never be made.

Ohh it'll be made, eventually.

The problem is it won't live up to the impossible hype surrounding it

I think an even bigger issue is what can Valve do to make it stand out from other FPS games?  HL2 was essentially a corridor shooter but they managed to mix up the gameplay(even if the vehicles controlled like epileptic marionettes) and the gravity gun was a great toy.  But really where can they go now that can create that kind of "WOW" again?

Time travel.  Puzzles involving portals, the same environments, looping through time.

I already played Bioshock Infinite.


I'm sorry.
 
2014-02-20 05:58:57 PM  

mooseyfate: I'm betting Freeman's Mind 2 will be completed before Half-Life 3 is started.

/am I the only one that loves that series?


Nope. I check his site periodically for updates.

/Ross' Game Dungeon is pretty fun too.
 
2014-02-20 06:19:35 PM  

BafflerMeal: Time travel.  Puzzles involving portals, the same environments, looping through time.


So they're just going to remake  this?

/amazingly underrated game
 
2014-02-20 06:24:45 PM  

Lusiphur: BafflerMeal: Time travel.  Puzzles involving portals, the same environments, looping through time.

So they're just going to remake  this?

/amazingly underrated game



Hrm.  Never saw that one.  Thx, gonna look into that one

I was thinking more along the lines of Zork III believe it or not.
 
2014-02-20 06:28:18 PM  

BafflerMeal: Hrm.  Never saw that one.  Thx, gonna look into that one


The shooter elements are sort of standard, but the survival horror parts are very hard, the puzzles are hard, the enemies never die, and the story is more than good enough. Also, there is no "good" ending, which I always love.
 
2014-02-20 08:45:00 PM  
Holy shiat, people still care about HL3?

I'm pretty all but the drool-iest of fanboys lost interest a long time ago.
 
2014-02-20 08:48:44 PM  

Flappyhead: scottydoesntknow: Rev.K: I, like most Half Life fans, have simply resigned myself to the fact that Half Life 3 will never be made.

Ohh it'll be made, eventually.

The problem is it won't live up to the impossible hype surrounding it

I think an even bigger issue is what can Valve do to make it stand out from other FPS games?  HL2 was essentially a corridor shooter but they managed to mix up the gameplay(even if the vehicles controlled like epileptic marionettes) and the gravity gun was a great toy.  But really where can they go now that can create that kind of "WOW" again?


Open, 3d world with a gravity gun that also pulls you to things?
 
2014-02-20 09:10:53 PM  
I support the idea that Valve will just come up with a game called "3" that crosses over all of their titles that have reached 2 so far.
 
2014-02-20 09:52:34 PM  
Flappyhead: ...the gravity gun was a great toy. But really where can they go now that can create that kind of "WOW" again?

A sonic gun.

Uses sound waves to:
screech (disable)
boom (explode)
echo (distract)
muffle (stealth)
vibrate (disintegrate)
resonate (move)
harmonize (shield)
...and more!

It would gain powers incrementally, of course.
 
2014-02-20 10:22:56 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake:
Open, 3d world with a gravity gun that also pulls you to things?

Sounds great but not likely.  Big open worlds can be problematic and Valve seems to be at there best when they have strict level boundaries.

Without Fail: A sonic gun.

Uses sound waves to:
screech (disable)
boom (explode)
echo (distract)
muffle (stealth)
vibrate (disintegrate)
resonate (move)
harmonize (shield)
...and more!

It would gain powers incrementally, of course.


An all in one weapon sounds interesting, but Infamous and Prototype already used that mechanic.  I'm not saying these are bad ideas, but what made HL2 stand out was how different some of it's elements were from other shooters at the time.

Ultimately I can settle for more of the same in a Half Life game, reviewers and fanbois, OTOH, likely wont.
 
2014-02-20 10:29:26 PM  

Flappyhead: Copperbelly watersnake:
Open, 3d world with a gravity gun that also pulls you to things?

Sounds great but not likely.  Big open worlds can be problematic and Valve seems to be at there best when they have strict level boundaries.

Without Fail: A sonic gun.

Uses sound waves to:
screech (disable)
boom (explode)
echo (distract)
muffle (stealth)
vibrate (disintegrate)
resonate (move)
harmonize (shield)
...and more!

It would gain powers incrementally, of course.

An all in one weapon sounds interesting, but Infamous and Prototype already used that mechanic.  I'm not saying these are bad ideas, but what made HL2 stand out was how different some of it's elements were from other shooters at the time.

Ultimately I can settle for more of the same in a Half Life game, reviewers and fanbois, OTOH, likely wont.


No more antlions. More of the same of everything else, but please no more antlions
 
2014-02-20 10:39:25 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake: Flappyhead: Copperbelly watersnake:
Open, 3d world with a gravity gun that also pulls you to things?

Sounds great but not likely.  Big open worlds can be problematic and Valve seems to be at there best when they have strict level boundaries.

Without Fail: A sonic gun.

Uses sound waves to:
screech (disable)
boom (explode)
echo (distract)
muffle (stealth)
vibrate (disintegrate)
resonate (move)
harmonize (shield)
...and more!

It would gain powers incrementally, of course.

An all in one weapon sounds interesting, but Infamous and Prototype already used that mechanic.  I'm not saying these are bad ideas, but what made HL2 stand out was how different some of it's elements were from other shooters at the time.

Ultimately I can settle for more of the same in a Half Life game, reviewers and fanbois, OTOH, likely wont.

No more antlions. More of the same of everything else, but please no more antlions


I didn't get the point of taming them... I mean, it was kinda neat and all, but I never used them outside that level.  What I could do without were those extended driving sections.  Those were also neat at first, but they went on so long (or maybe it seemed that way from all the game crash recovery resaves).  One thing I did like was crushing the ant lions with cars.  That was fun.  That said, I would play HL3 even if it was a rehash of HL2, assuming I could even run it.
 
2014-02-21 12:03:19 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: mooseyfate: I'm betting Freeman's Mind 2 will be completed before Half-Life 3 is started.

/am I the only one that loves that series?

Is he still doing it? I watched until he got to the cliff, but it was taking close to month between episodes so I gave up on it.


Yeah, he's up to part 54, moved his YouTube channel to accursedfarms. I enjoy it, I always laugh more than a few times per episode.
 
2014-02-21 12:07:17 AM  

scottydoesntknow: somemoron: I had to save every five minutes due to random crashes that would occasionally even BSOD my Vista machine.

I think I found yer problem. I got a loaner from Fry's when my laptop went kaput. One of the first generation of Vista machines. I was excited to try it out.

Then it BSOD'ed 25 minutes into setting it up. Hadn't even had enough time to actually play with anything. Then it BSOD'ed on installing Steam. Then it BSOD'ed on running Steam. After I turned that POS back in I swore I would never have another computer that had that OS.

/Farking hate Vista


I ran Vista completely rock stable on a new computer for like 3 years before going to 7. Those BSODs probably weren't a product of the operating system but rather either it had bad drivers for something or there was a hardware problem.
 
2014-02-21 02:13:58 AM  
I'd definately buy they game, but not the steam box just to play it.
 
2014-02-21 04:43:57 AM  
Gravity gun + Portal gun? Open portal in wall, open portal in high ceiling/wall of building, pull enemy to me, shoot enemy through portal in hole wall to watch them fall from great heights to their death. I would love that. Also would work great with explosive type things to a group of enemies off in the distance.
 
2014-02-21 04:57:48 AM  

Dibikad: Gravity gun + Portal gun? Open portal in wall, open portal in high ceiling/wall of building, pull enemy to me, shoot enemy through portal in hole wall to watch them fall from great heights to their death. I would love that. Also would work great with explosive type things to a group of enemies off in the distance.


I always thought that the portal gun would be great for water.

You could have transparent water that you could shoot through.

Pop a hole in the bottom of a reservoir and the exit out a wall.

Use it for flow and float puzzles.
 
2014-02-21 07:28:22 AM  
I replayed HL 1 and 2 recently.

They both run SMOOOOOTH!

As in hundreds of frames a second.

Might revisit some `unplayable because the hardware requirements are just insane at the time of release` old games to see them run like butter on a hot knife...
 
2014-02-21 07:30:06 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: No more antlions. More of the same of everything else, but please no more antlions


This. They were not fun. Just annoying.
 
2014-02-21 09:28:42 AM  

dready zim: I replayed HL 1 and 2 recently.

They both run SMOOOOOTH!

As in hundreds of frames a second.

Might revisit some `unplayable because the hardware requirements are just insane at the time of release` old games to see them run like butter on a hot knife...


That's usually how I get my PC gaming kicks. There are plenty of games that are still great despite their age. If you've never played it before and you're into noir RPGs, I'd highly recommend Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines. It runs on Valve's source engine, so it still looks pretty damn good despite being made in 2004 or 5.
 
2014-02-21 11:22:48 AM  

mooseyfate: I'd highly recommend Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines


That's one of my favorite PC RPGs ever, and I've played a lot. I always wondered why it never got more love.
 
2014-02-21 11:53:42 AM  

dready zim: Might revisit some `unplayable because the hardware requirements are just insane at the time of release` old games to see them run like butter on a hot knife...


Hoping to be able to play Crysis before the start of the new millennium.
 
2014-02-21 04:00:17 PM  

Confabulat: mooseyfate: I'd highly recommend Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines

That's one of my favorite PC RPGs ever, and I've played a lot. I always wondered why it never got more love.


Right! It had Bender in it, for fark's sake! I'd love it if the guys that made that game did a Kickstarter for another RPG.
 
2014-02-21 05:11:24 PM  
I've been hunting for the Mac Pirates! Gold edition music. I remember playing that on my one bit Mac SE back in the day. Nothing but the Amiga version on YouTube. Ah well.

One game from years ago that I remember wanting to play but never got around to was Heart of China. It was supposed to have been a cracker.
 
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