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(Politico)   Thanks to the likes of Fox News, we no longer have a fake sense of consensus in views. Or it could just be that our views are constantly evolving. Whichever you want to believe   (politico.com ) divider line
    More: Interesting, Fox News, Tet Offensive, Ta-Nehisi Coates, Viet Cong, Philip Roth, President Johnson, Walter Cronkite, Tom Brokaw  
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2014-02-20 02:11:34 PM  
Actually, people aren't divided as much as the media tries to make it seem, it's just that the lunatics are running the asylum.
 
2014-02-20 02:15:57 PM  

theknuckler_33: Actually, people aren't divided as much as the media tries to make it seem, it's just that the lunatics are running the asylum.


REALLY???

have you TALKED to people on the other side?
Have you TALKED to people who think Bohner is doing a great job? Or that think Obama is destroying america?

So yah, about that, I think many people are about as divided as you would think.

Look at the tea party rallies and the HATE for abortion.
FFS, people still vote for candidates after the candidate spouts pro-rape nonsense.
HOW can you explain that and maintain that people are not divided?

/OMG if you were trolling, that is 11/11!!
 
2014-02-20 02:36:02 PM  

Danger Mouse: BMulligan: Danger Mouse: BMulligan: Danger Mouse: BMulligan: 

"... or when a brash war correspondent named Dan Rather started filing reports from Vietnam which contradicted the government story"

Fake but accurate?

Actually, the claim at the time was that his reports were real but inaccurate. The bodies were real, but the implication that American troops were ill-equipped to defeat the Vietnamese insurgents was ridiculous and traitorous. And Cronkite was a commie for allowing the reports to air on "his" broadcast (as though Cronkite was making editorial decisions).


I was refereing to the forged Air National Guard documents for the hit piece on Bush.  you know, the reason  Rather resigned in disgrace.

Yes, we all understood what you were doing. Subtlety is not your forte.

We??? Just how many voices in your head do you have?


Did you assume no one else has caught on to your shtick yet?
 
2014-02-20 03:52:22 PM  

Fart_Machine: Did you assume no one else has caught on to your shtick yet?


Winterwhile has questions.  Stupid, godawful questions.
 
2014-02-20 04:00:24 PM  

Rain-Monkey: I miss Uncle Walt. His book is awesome.

Not sure if the consensus was fake, it did seem to represent the majority opinion. Uncle Walt had national credibility because he reported the news, only the news, in a balanced and credible way.

Today we have deliberate polarization in attempts to magnetize viewer demographics and to acheive political ends in order to acheive financial ends. "News" is infotainment, just enough substance to carry the narritive of the day.

At some level, most of us seem to want to be in a place of growing unity. We are sick as shiat of this Red - Blue crap. I don't want to feel outrage every day. I want us to remember we are a mix of peoples with very different views, but the minority views are just that and don't deserve amplified focus because we have minutes to fill on air.

/soapbox


Yeah...let me guess, that was when you were kid? Here's what probably  actually happened:

BMulligan: It's funny, but a lot of people seem to remember the 1960s and early 1970s very differently than I do. I remember Goldwater conservatives complaining that Cronkite, Huntley, Brinkley and the rest were liberal shills, particularly when Cronkite started weeping when he reported the Kennedy assassination or when a brash war correspondent named Dan Rather started filing reports from Vietnam which contradicted the government story. I also remember critics on the left complaining about corporate ownership of the news (you may recall that Huntley-Brinkley report was originally sponsored exclusively by Texaco), and the fact that aside from Rather and a few others, no one seemed interested in showing what was really  happening in Southeast Asia. I remember a guy named Hunter Thompson coming along and nearly getting himself killed covering the murder of reporter Ruben Salazar by the LAPD, only to have his objectivity questioned for even mentioning the story. As Thompson said at the time, there is no such thing as objective journalism, there never has been, and the myth of its existence is toxic.

But maybe that's just me. My memory isn't what it used to be.



Fark,  there has never been and never will be a consensus in any group of humans. Airing differences in opinions isn't a bad thing. It means you have the opportunity to get shiat done. Not that you'll  take it necessarily--hell, look at our political spectrum today--but that you have the chance.

Who says that's a  bad thing?
 
2014-02-20 05:00:38 PM  

PsiChick: Who says that's a  bad thing?


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Airing a difference of opinions is never a bad thing.  It's framing every issue as a difference between two polar opinions that's the Bad Motherf*cking Thing.
 
2014-02-20 05:13:13 PM  

thamike: PsiChick: Who says that's a  bad thing?

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Airing a difference of opinions is never a bad thing.  It's framing every issue as a difference between two polar opinions that's the Bad Motherf*cking Thing.


If you expected it to go from 'one opinion' to 'all the opinions treated respectfully and factually' overnight, let me explain you a thing...
 
2014-02-20 05:16:36 PM  

PsiChick: thamike: PsiChick: Who says that's a  bad thing?

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Airing a difference of opinions is never a bad thing.  It's framing every issue as a difference between two polar opinions that's the Bad Motherf*cking Thing.

If you expected it to go from 'one opinion' to 'all the opinions treated respectfully and factually' overnight, let me explain you a thing...


Don't make me reach through the internet and choke you into hilarity.
 
2014-02-20 05:35:04 PM  

thamike: PsiChick: thamike: PsiChick: Who says that's a  bad thing?

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Airing a difference of opinions is never a bad thing.  It's framing every issue as a difference between two polar opinions that's the Bad Motherf*cking Thing.

If you expected it to go from 'one opinion' to 'all the opinions treated respectfully and factually' overnight, let me explain you a thing...

Don't make me reach through the internet and choke you into hilarity.


No, seriously. Yes, what we have now isn't good either, it's just a step in the right direction. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be made better, just that we're lurching forward instead of stopping.
 
2014-02-21 10:34:52 AM  

PsiChick: thamike: PsiChick: thamike: PsiChick: Who says that's a  bad thing?

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Airing a difference of opinions is never a bad thing.  It's framing every issue as a difference between two polar opinions that's the Bad Motherf*cking Thing.

If you expected it to go from 'one opinion' to 'all the opinions treated respectfully and factually' overnight, let me explain you a thing...

Don't make me reach through the internet and choke you into hilarity.

No, seriously. Yes, what we have now isn't good either, it's just a step in the right direction. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be made better, just that we're lurching forward instead of stopping.


The news isn't a matter of opinion is my point.  More opinions = less news.  You get it?  I don't want more opinions.  They are the problem.
 
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