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(Mirror.co.uk)   Cute teen girl who previously lived as a boy reaches final of Miss Coventry beauty competition, despite being subjected to death threats: "I felt it was important to make a stand. You don't have to look or be a certain way to be beautiful" (w/pic)   (mirror.co.uk ) divider line
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2014-02-20 06:19:17 PM  
ReverendJasen: runcible spork: So why are you here?

Entertainment mostly.  And occasionally I learn something from one of you serious people.  For instance, I just learned the etymology of the word 'runcible.'  (I appreciate the cleverness of the name much more now, btw)


I'm not always serious. Hope that's evident. Also, don't read too much into the name.

/ thanks for the apology
// but I see you still have a name-calling issue

I did include the winkie face to try and convey that the name calling was in jest.  I know you're not really a douchenozzlette.  That is such a fun word to say though, I couldn't resist.


Trained myself long ago not to see emoticons; they're below my radar. Only sometimes a liability. And anyway, you can't know for certain that I'm not a 'douchenozzlette,' either.
 
2014-02-20 07:01:04 PM  

Shadowknight: But I will also not glaze over the fact that she overreacted, and would rather wallow in those hurt feelings than realize that maybe he wasn't out to get her, and just wasn't very good with framing a joke.


That's pretty much all I ever see that farker do.
/that and blame it on the drinking
 
2014-02-20 10:34:15 PM  

DigitalCoffee: 1. I posted a poorly thought out joke.
2. Maggie went batshiat over it and everyone else jumped on the dog pile and took it to eleven.
3. I came back and tried to explain myself.
4. Everyone started playing the blame game and everything started all over again.

Therefore:

A. You win, I lose. I'm sorry. I'll go stand in the corner now. Happy?
B. Then I'm going to go have dinner.
C. I will not be back to this thread.


... YOU'RE BAAAACK
 
2014-02-20 11:39:26 PM  

Serious Black: You have to be a ridiculously sick farker to threaten anyone's life, let alone a confused teenage girl's boy's life.


ftfy

Don't get me wrong; we agree on the more important part of your statement, just not on the biological facts.
 
2014-02-20 11:48:02 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: IamAwake: diaphoresis: I never understood the people who use ignore lists. Does it mean they are less tolerant of people's opinions that don't match their own?

I use it for people who post large quantities of unrelated pictures in a thread, or people who are more than just minor trolls.  That said, if I or anyone else wanted to filter more liberally - what do you care?  Why is anyone here obligated to read what everyone says?  If put on an ignore list, typically you'll not even know.  You won't be harmed in any way.  You're still free to feel as though you got the attention of the same number of people, that they all felt you were a special snowflake with unique and beautiful ideas.  You can feel that independent of how much of said writing of yours, that others may actually be reading.

I dunno if you know this, but some people's opinion is that they should just shiat on people.  They'll say one thing until it isn't the outside thing, then they'll say a different thing.  They just want to be obnoxious.  They're not adding to the conversation - they're derailing it.  That's what for which the ignore button is typically solving.

So now you know!

I always ignore transphobes because I simply don't give a crap about what a person's opinion on anything else might be if they can't even summon the strength to be respectful of fellow human beings.


Boils down to a simple maxim: life is too short for some brands of bullsh*t.

As for the folks who don't have trans folks in their lives, I can understand a part of the issue of non-acceptance. It's as common on both the heterosexual as well as homosexual sides. There are a damn lot of folks who are gay and lesbian who REALLY just want bisexuals to pick a side. There are a lot of folks who are gay and lesbian who are creeped out by the T portion of LGBT. That tends to change, when you see and have folks in your life who are grappling with these sorts of issues. Some are just plain chemical, some are some damn ugly, absolutely heart breaking trauma that when you understand the impetus, you want to take a f*cking chainsaw to a fair amount of their family tree, and cleanse the debris with fire. Human sexuality isn't a linear progression, it's not as simple as one or another. It's not even a spectrum. The one great truth about human sexuality is variation. Which oddly enough means, that most of us can pretty much be assured that we are someone's fetish.

So long as folks are all consenting, and aware, then drive on. Be happy. Love one another, and if you're not into someone, then don't f*ck 'em. Plain and simple. Just because you don't want to f*ck 'em, doesn't mean someone else doesn't. Big boned, rail thin, too big a nose, not the right religion, too dark, too pale, wrong attitude, listens to the wrong music, really hates Star Wars, voted Republican, voted Democrat, there are a plethora of reasons that folks will consider you an inappropriate bunk up. And yeah, being the wrong sex IS one of them. And then there's a lot of gray area, and boils down to it, what YOU like, and what OTHER people like doesn't have to be the same. So long as everyone is consenting, and happy with one another, drive on. I may not agree that I find it particularly attractive, but if I ain't f*cking them, it's none of my damn business. Be happy with what you got, and thems that find you awfully fun and good for them. There is not one iota of happiness drained from the Universe if someone you don't find attractive or a good partner finds someone that likes them--well, unless of course you're sort of douche who enjoys other folk's misery, and then perhaps foiling your happiness IS indeed adding the happiness quotient of the Universe, and in that case you maybe need a good punch in the tacklebox for good measure, but again, the rule of the Universe in matters of sex IS variation so you're at least holding to that constant.

My Grandmother, a good KC Lady, the same woman who taught me to drink, and who bawled me out for being dickish on more than a few occasions, had a simple rule: mind your own damn business. Don't like? Don't eat it. But never mind what's on anyone else's...

And on another note: as a nominally straight man, our own tinfoilled maggie is adorable just the way she is. Drive on, you, and be the best you, you can be.
 
2014-02-21 09:28:44 AM  

RockofAges: I don't understand the fixation with "straight" if the transman is simply looking for sexual relations with women -- why does their orientation matter as long as they are okay with a transman?


I'm guessing because they if they're with a lesbian, then they're with someone who likes women, and a trans man doesn't want to be a woman. They want to be with someone who likes men to affirm their own gender identity.
 
2014-02-21 10:06:32 AM  

RockofAges: also would not date a TG individual because I don't "round down" to straight, I am straight

I don't necessarily see 'straight' as an absolute.   I desire women, and appreciate feminine beauty.   I find the male body kind of silly looking and certainly never sexually attractive.  My partners have never had a penis and I'm not into receiving anal sex.   So I think its fair that consider myself straight.
Having said that its not always possible to predict who one will fall in love with.   I remember seeing the movie 'The Crying Game' and thinking that I could easily see myself hooking up with the character 'Dil' under similar circumstances.  As about a 16yo, I remember spanking it to the model Tula in Playboy.   I feel no problem with that, knowing that she's a transsexual and, of course, given a chance I would opted for having sex with her instead.   So, I guess, given different opportunities at different points in my life I could have deviated from the straight path.


RockofAges: But really, I don't understand the fixation with "straight" if the transman is simply looking for sexual relations with women -- why does their orientation matter as long as they are okay with a transman?

Frankly, this seems like a sort of status thing.  "You see?  I  am a real man, I'm with a straight woman!"
 
2014-02-21 11:23:58 AM  

Shadowknight: Theaetetus:

So your argument is that he is a bigot and deserved this virtual shaming because he made a reference to a movie you didn't get, no matter what he actually believes, simply for the offense of assuming people would know the movie in question?  I mean, in ordinary circles or at a dinner party, that wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that someone was being a dick.  Just blurting that out to a bunch of people that aren't likely in on the joke would be uncalled for.

But this is Fark.  Just in the last 24 hours I've seen quoted references to the 1927 Metropolis movie, the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie, and two quotes from Optimus Prime.  If Monty Python is too obscure, things have gone crooked somewhere.


If only you white knights defended the trans posters or trans people in stories linked here and voraciously as you do the people who intentionally make out-of-context statements and are then rightfully pounced upon...
 
2014-02-21 11:29:54 AM  

hubiestubert: The My Little Pony Killer: IamAwake: diaphoresis: I never understood the people who use ignore lists. Does it mean they are less tolerant of people's opinions that don't match their own?

I use it for people who post large quantities of unrelated pictures in a thread, or people who are more than just minor trolls.  That said, if I or anyone else wanted to filter more liberally - what do you care?  Why is anyone here obligated to read what everyone says?  If put on an ignore list, typically you'll not even know.  You won't be harmed in any way.  You're still free to feel as though you got the attention of the same number of people, that they all felt you were a special snowflake with unique and beautiful ideas.  You can feel that independent of how much of said writing of yours, that others may actually be reading.

I dunno if you know this, but some people's opinion is that they should just shiat on people.  They'll say one thing until it isn't the outside thing, then they'll say a different thing.  They just want to be obnoxious.  They're not adding to the conversation - they're derailing it.  That's what for which the ignore button is typically solving.

So now you know!

I always ignore transphobes because I simply don't give a crap about what a person's opinion on anything else might be if they can't even summon the strength to be respectful of fellow human beings.

Boils down to a simple maxim: life is too short for some brands of bullsh*t.

As for the folks who don't have trans folks in their lives, I can understand a part of the issue of non-acceptance. It's as common on both the heterosexual as well as homosexual sides. There are a damn lot of folks who are gay and lesbian who REALLY just want bisexuals to pick a side. There are a lot of folks who are gay and lesbian who are creeped out by the T portion of LGBT. That tends to change, when you see and have folks in your life who are grappling with these sorts of issues. Some are just plain chemical, some are ...


Thank you for expanding upon my point in that graceful way that you be, Hubie.
 
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