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(Daily Mail)   Note to self: Do not try to kick a live grenade away from you (warning: graphic)   ( divider line
    More: Scary, Bangkok, Thai Police, riots, grenades, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra  
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2014-02-19 09:42:08 PM  
2 votes:
I get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine.

2014-02-20 08:38:44 PM  
1 vote:

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: The only live grenades you got to toss had a very long, very thorough lead up and lecture about exactly what was going to happen, and what would happen if some privatey-private farked it up. You throw the grenade from a foxhole about waist deep, and there is an instructor in the hole with you. If something goes wrong and you drop the grenade the instructors will 1. jump out of the hole and 2. grab your dumbass and pull you out, in that order. They did not fark around with live explosives.

Our DS said "If you fark this up and drop the grenade , I am only required to make one attempt to save you. If I go to grab you and you pull back, that's it, I'm going over the sandbag wall without you. Now if you suddenly decide you don't want to die, grab on to the back of my jacket because it sure as shait ain't gonna slow me down."

When it came time to toss the live grenade I won't lie, I was pretty damn scared. As soon as it left my hand I was on the ground. I didn't know where it landed and I didn't care since it wasn't in the pit with me. I wanted nothing further to do with that thing once I pulled the pin. I didn't even pop the spoon and *then* throw like you see in the movies.  The spoon went flying with the grenade.
2014-02-20 08:11:41 PM  
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MythDragon: We were doing grenade training  in basic using training grenades (live fuse so you get the *pop* but no explosives). And I was up on my first throw. I've never been the most sports oriented person so I knew my throw distance wasn't going to be great. But I farked that one up bad. I sort of forgot to let go and I ended up spiking the grenade at my feet. The drill sergeant was looking for the grenade to go sailing through the air, looks back to me, looks at the grenade at my feet, then *pop*. Then he just stares at me for about 10 seconds. Very quietly he says "Go. Just go to the next station and don't come back here."

Resident Muslim: Instructors who give live grenade training:
1) are extremely brave
2) have amazing willpower to not kill someone who manages to mess up the simple process of pull-throw

RM, that is most true thing I have ever read.  They are a little crazy IMHO.  To this day I have never been as straight up scared as I was when throwing my two live grenades and I've come close to killing myself by mischief or misadventure more than once.  My personal terror was that I might milk the grenade.

On my first throw I was concentrating on doing everything correctly and getting that damn thing away from me my brain was creaking.  So I'm up on position, ready to go.  And by the numbers it was:
"Ready grenade!"
Ready snug in both hands against my chest.
"Remove safety!"
Pulled the safety pin, seriously scared now but concentrating on the drill.
"Hold Grenade firmly! (short pause) PULL PIN!"
Pulled the pin actively embedding my fingerprints in the grenade body.
"Assume throwing position"
Take up the sort of shot put like stance you are to assume.
And suddenly in this totally relaxed voice, "So, son where are you from?"
My head swiveled back towards him with that I felt was remarkable control.  To this day I can only what my face must have looked like.  
"Excuse me?"
"That's excuse me SERGEANT, and it was a simple question son.  Where are you from?"
That moment now defines terror for me because you see at that moment I had no farking clue where I was from.  I was so focused on the drill and this lunatic talking to me that my brain could not drag it back to me.
After what seemed like an eternity "M,M,M,Mi,Min, MINNESOTA SERGEANT!"  He looked me in the eyes for a second (day/week/eternity) and laughed.
"Ok son,(snicker) PREPARE TO THROW!" and on with the drill.
When I got back to the pit the guys asked my "hey creeper, what was going on when he held you on the throw?"
"I don't want to farking talk about it!"

Seraphym: They could use that training in China:

Bullshiat! That is a damn fine training hole layout even if it a little different and that is farking EXCELLENT cadre there.  He might be chinese but this old soldier would buy him a beer in a moment. Trainees wiff the throws from time to time.  Always have always, always will.  But that trainers handling was flawless.
2014-02-19 11:15:21 PM  
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2014-02-19 10:01:46 PM  
1 vote:
Running away wasn't really a good option given how stacked up they were and the inability to get everyone to recognize the threat in time to move.  Either kicking it away or trying to smother it/shield yourself with the riot shield, neither option is great.  Kicking it resulted in his horrible outcome, The shields are not designed to take that kind of pressure and would have probably failed doing little to minimize the damage of the shrapnel that would have torn through those police.  There were very few good options in that situation and he tried to do what he could in a bad situation. When protestors are throwing grenades, it can be time to abandon the passive techniques and utilize more active force (rubber bullets, kneeknockers, tear gas, pepperballs, flash bangs, even live fire warning shots to push back or disburse the crowd.  A grenade is escalating to lethal force and you can't ask the police to sit there taking casualties and not respond.
2014-02-19 09:55:09 PM  
1 vote:
What kinda protest they got going on there that people are throwing grenades?!

And where do protesters get grenades?
2014-02-19 09:46:33 PM  
1 vote:
He wasen't kicking it away from himself, he was trying to get it away from everyone else.
2014-02-19 09:37:00 PM  
1 vote:
Apparently, he did not lose his foot. From this article: The policeman was identified as Pol.Sen.Sgt.Maj. Teeradet Ui-Charoen. Medical workers said he suffered severe legs injuries from the grenade blast, but the wounds fortunately did not need amputation.

They aren't sure if he'll be able to completely recover and walk normally again, but he still has his legs.

BTW, in case anyone is unclear about the protests and any violence associated with them, this is only happening in a small part of the city, and the other 99% of the city is unaffected. If anyone wants up to the moment details, I highly recommend following @RichardBarrow on Twitter. Especially if you are in or are planning to go to Bangkok.

/live in Bangkok, so getting a kick...
//pretty much completely unaffected by the protesting, except for having to go to an alt. location to get a re-entry permit for a trip I'm taking next month
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