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(The Hill)   Environmentalists are coming for your dry cleaning   (thehill.com) divider line 73
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2014-02-19 08:18:47 PM  
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2014-02-19 08:22:10 PM  
They can have my silk scrotal ascot when they pry it off of my cold, dead scrotum.
 
2014-02-19 08:22:57 PM  
Cool. Do I have to tip them when they drop it off?
 
2014-02-19 08:41:54 PM  
People still dry clean clothes? Why did we invent permanent press fabrics?
 
2014-02-19 09:24:46 PM  
But I had no dry cleaning, so I said nothing...
 
2014-02-19 09:39:12 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: People still dry clean clothes? Why did we invent permanent press fabrics?


Sorry, some people still like looking good.
 
2014-02-19 09:43:19 PM  
Do it for 98 cents a shirt and that's fine.  Otherwise it's just a protection racket.  I also like the tears of children to provide the vapor for the press.
 
2014-02-19 09:48:45 PM  
Um, according to TFA, consumers want the change of the label, professional clothing cleaners want the change, clothing manufacturers want the change, textile associations want the change, only the FTC is going "I don't know...change is scary" and dragging their feet.

I've learned that "Dry Clean Only" is bullshiat and have wet cleaned many items safely.
 
2014-02-19 10:11:34 PM  

gnosis301: InterruptingQuirk: People still dry clean clothes? Why did we invent permanent press fabrics?

Sorry, some people still like looking good.


All my button downs, oxfords, etc., and my slacks are wrinkle free. Why do I need a dry cleaner for that?
 
2014-02-19 11:13:55 PM  
Joke's on them; I haven't washed anything for 20 years!
 
2014-02-19 11:14:14 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: gnosis301: InterruptingQuirk: People still dry clean clothes? Why did we invent permanent press fabrics?

Sorry, some people still like looking good.

All my button downs, oxfords, etc., and my slacks are wrinkle free. Why do I need a dry cleaner for that?


Free coat hangers.
 
2014-02-19 11:16:43 PM  
That reminds me... I need to pick something up that I dropped off in 2008.
 
2014-02-19 11:16:43 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Joke's on them; I haven't washed anything for 20 years!


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2014-02-19 11:19:27 PM  
What the hell, that's the whole reason I had those clothes dry cleans in the first place, now I'll have to ge- ohhh, coming for the dry cleaning... my mistake.
 
2014-02-19 11:21:00 PM  
"This shirt is dry clean only, which means... it's dirty."

R.I.P. Mitch
 
2014-02-19 11:21:33 PM  
The Old Lady won't let me near the laundry, I toss everything in the same load, colors, whites, jeans, tennis shoes you name it and it goes in as a single extra large load and when it comes out of the dryer it goes all in a ball into my clean clothes hamper to await my pleasure, no girly ironing for me, thus I have been permabanned from the laundry room.


/what is this dry cleaning you speak of?
 
2014-02-19 11:21:36 PM  
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2014-02-19 11:23:38 PM  
Wet clearners?

That sounds like some sort of perverted sex act.
 
2014-02-19 11:23:55 PM  

Pribar: The Old Lady won't let me near the laundry, I toss everything in the same load, colors, whites, jeans, tennis shoes you name it and it goes in as a single extra large load and when it comes out of the dryer it goes all in a ball into my clean clothes hamper to await my pleasure, no girly ironing for me, thus I have been permabanned from the laundry room.


/what is this dry cleaning you speak of?


I am pretty much the same, which did not work out very well with new white towels and new red table cloths from the wedding.

/mama said there'd be days like this
//apparently I forgot.
 
2014-02-19 11:24:54 PM  
First they came for the dry-cleaning and I said nothing, because only douche nozzles have clothes that require dry cleaning.
 
2014-02-19 11:26:10 PM  
Ummm...most dry cleaners use supercritical CO2 these days, author seems to have conveniently left that part out. The companies have mostly gotten away from the using halogenated compounds (Like dichloromethane and 1,2-dichloroethylene) because they were too toxic and to expensive to use. I'm surprised that there isn't national regulation on this, though it looks like the free market will take care of that on it's own.
 
2014-02-19 11:32:39 PM  
Fun fact:  about half the nation's Superfund sites are former dry cleaning businesses.

PDF
 
2014-02-19 11:34:16 PM  

emersonbiggins: Fun fact:  about half the nation's Superfund sites are former dry cleaning businesses.

PDF


Are the rest former Taco Bells?
 
2014-02-19 11:39:19 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: gnosis301: InterruptingQuirk: People still dry clean clothes? Why did we invent permanent press fabrics?

Sorry, some people still like looking good.

All my button downs, oxfords, etc., and my slacks are wrinkle free. Why do I need a dry cleaner for that?




Once the formaldehyde is gone, your garments will wrinkle right up.
 
2014-02-19 11:43:08 PM  
Any serious environmentalist would have already killed themselves.
 
2014-02-19 11:45:19 PM  

Reverend J: Ummm...most dry cleaners use supercritical CO2 these days, author seems to have conveniently left that part out. The companies have mostly gotten away from the using halogenated compounds (Like dichloromethane and 1,2-dichloroethylene) because they were too toxic and to expensive to use. I'm surprised that there isn't national regulation on this, though it looks like the free market will take care of that on it's own.


The most common 20th century solvent is tetrachloroethene (perchloroethylene, or PERC), not dichloromethane or 1,2-DCE. I believe  most dry cleaners still use PCE, though more are using supercritical CO2. This movement may be the result of the free market, but only because the cost of all the PCE cleanup has been excessive and insurance is tired of covering it. I work in the environmental business.(Very roughly) About a third of the cleanup jobs are dry cleaners, a third are gas stations, and a third are other sites.
 
2014-02-19 11:46:22 PM  

Pribar: emersonbiggins: Fun fact:  about half the nation's Superfund sites are former dry cleaning businesses.

PDF

Are the rest former Taco Bells?


Luckily, the half-life of a gordita is six minutes
 
2014-02-19 11:46:31 PM  

gnosis301: InterruptingQuirk: People still dry clean clothes? Why did we invent permanent press fabrics?

Sorry, some people still like looking good.


I don't like other people messing with my clothes.  And I look just fine with stuff I can clean myself.
 
2014-02-19 11:52:16 PM  
PERC is nasty, nasty stuff. Smells great! But doesn't do good things to say, organisms.
 
2014-02-19 11:54:18 PM  

emersonbiggins: Fun fact:  about half the nation's Superfund sites are former dry cleaning businesses.

PDF


Your cite doesn't say that half of Superfund sites are former dry cleaners. It says that PCE is a containment at half of Superfund sites.
While PCE may be a containment in half the Superfund sites, that's far from half of sites being Superfund sites. PCE is a common solvent for industrial use, and it's a common containment at many sites unrelated to dry cleaning. Most dry cleaners are simply too small to end up on the Superfund list. Take a look at (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Superfund_sites_in_California  ) for example and you'll see a lot of military bases, landfills, and mines, not dry cleaners. Your fun fact isn't a fact.

Which isn't to say PCE isn't a significant environmental concern. It is.
 
2014-02-19 11:57:13 PM  
In all of my 30 years on this planet I have never EVER had anything dry cleaned. Yet still seem to kick it old school hard core and get all the fly honies.
 
2014-02-19 11:57:17 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: InterruptingQuirk: gnosis301: InterruptingQuirk: People still dry clean clothes? Why did we invent permanent press fabrics?

Sorry, some people still like looking good.

All my button downs, oxfords, etc., and my slacks are wrinkle free. Why do I need a dry cleaner for that?

Once the formaldehyde is gone, your garments will wrinkle right up.


Explain please, with linky goodness if possible.
 
2014-02-19 11:57:42 PM  
Can I still have my starch?
 
2014-02-19 11:57:49 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: All my button downs, oxfords, etc., and my slacks are wrinkle free. Why do I need a dry cleaner for that?


What your clothes make look like:

stylemeupt.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-19 11:58:13 PM  
I've never bought anything that says dry-clean only because from what I've been told you're supposed to wear dry-clean only clothes for a long time before getting them dry-cleaned, which wouldn't work for me.

I don't quite get it. I've read that people who wear wool suits get them cleaned as infrequently as possible because of the damage dry cleaning does to the fabric. Does that mean they wear the same suit pants day after day? Is this what all the Febreze is sold for? Because that's another thing I don't understand. Why are they selling a product to make things smell better when you could do just as much work to clean said thing?
 
2014-02-20 12:01:06 AM  

PanicMan: I don't like other people messing with my clothes.  And I look just fine with stuff I can clean myself.


Let me guess - you also eat at Olive Garden?

/yes - I went there
 
2014-02-20 12:02:00 AM  

gingerjet: InterruptingQuirk: All my button downs, oxfords, etc., and my slacks are wrinkle free. Why do I need a dry cleaner for that?

What your clothes make look like:

[stylemeupt.files.wordpress.com image 850x1133]


Good middle management... Never really wowed anyone at the office...
 
2014-02-20 12:05:41 AM  

KnightNavro: emersonbiggins: Fun fact:  about half the nation's Superfund sites are former dry cleaning businesses.

PDF

Your cite doesn't say that half of Superfund sites are former dry cleaners. It says that PCE is a containment at half of Superfund sites.
While PCE may be a containment in half the Superfund sites, that's far from half of sites being Superfund sites. PCE is a common solvent for industrial use, and it's a common containment at many sites unrelated to dry cleaning. Most dry cleaners are simply too small to end up on the Superfund list. Take a look at (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Superfund_sites_in_California  ) for example and you'll see a lot of military bases, landfills, and mines, not dry cleaners. Your fun fact isn't a fact.

Which isn't to say PCE isn't a significant environmental concern. It is.


Yeah, it wasn't clear, so I just went with a number.  Wrong, as usual.  Sounds like I'm ready for the politics tab.
 
2014-02-20 12:17:54 AM  
Wait, dry cleaning pisses of hippies more than laundering? I'm going to start dry cleaning more. Here I've been wasting all this water hoping that would grind their gears.
 
2014-02-20 12:23:15 AM  

gingerjet: PanicMan: I don't like other people messing with my clothes.  And I look just fine with stuff I can clean myself.

Let me guess - you also eat at Olive Garden?

/yes - I went there


Actually, around here we have Olive Tree.  Imagine Olive Garden, but shiattier.

gingerjet: What your clothes make look like:


It would help if that guy didn't buy his shirts two sizes too large.  Also, slim cut is in.   Lose the extra cloth.
 
2014-02-20 12:23:56 AM  

That Guy Jeff: Wait, dry cleaning pisses of hippies more than laundering? I'm going to start dry cleaning more. Here I've been wasting all this water hoping that would grind their gears.


lol remember when they took the phosphates out of dishwasher soap and now your plates don't get clean? I just bought the phosphates from chemical store and added it right back in, wife is happy, fernsniffers have heart attacks, life is goooood.
 
2014-02-20 12:33:14 AM  
Znuh:

PERC is nasty, nasty stuff. Smells great! But doesn't do good things to say, organisms.

I had a (thankfully brief) stint at a company that made pacemaker batteries when I was in college, and the worst part of the job was the final cleaning... That happened in a little tiny ill-ventilated room with an ultrasonic cleaner full of PERC. Think fast-food fryolator, except it's full of hot PERC instead of peanut oil, and of course the ultrasound was boiling a constant fog off of the liquid. Ten minutes in that room and it felt like your respiratory system was coated with wax.

But hey, my smock was as clean as can be!
 
2014-02-20 12:34:39 AM  

abiigdog: That Guy Jeff: Wait, dry cleaning pisses of hippies more than laundering? I'm going to start dry cleaning more. Here I've been wasting all this water hoping that would grind their gears.

lol remember when they took the phosphates out of dishwasher soap and now your plates don't get clean? I just bought the phosphates from chemical store and added it right back in, wife is happy, fernsniffers have heart attacks, life is goooood.


Get TSP from Home Depot or Lowes.  Cleans walls, floors, dishes, clothes, your nads.  It's like farking magic.
 
2014-02-20 12:36:21 AM  
 
2014-02-20 12:42:00 AM  
I work at a dry cleaners, and that article has precisely ZERO idea what it is talking about.  Wet cleaning is nowhere NEAR as gentle on clothes as dry cleaning them!  We require a signed release form before we will wet clean anything that isn't machine washable.

Wet cleaning is used to get out tough stains and smells, since dry cleaning doesn't affect smells.  It is only to be used as a backup in the event that dry cleaning fails, because we can ruin the shiat out of a suit or silk/wool/rayon item that way.  It can put permanent water rings on items or strip the color out of them.

Also, dry cleaning is used even on washable items like shirts and jeans in order to remove grease stains, because DCing items annihilates grease that can survive basic washing or wet cleaning.


tl:dr version:  The article is full of crap, dry cleaning is vastly superior to wet cleaning except in the cases of smells and extreme stains.  Wet cleaning will never, and should never, replace it.
 
2014-02-20 01:05:46 AM  
I wonder what Martin thinks of all this.
 
2014-02-20 01:15:18 AM  

gingerjet: InterruptingQuirk: All my button downs, oxfords, etc., and my slacks are wrinkle free. Why do I need a dry cleaner for that?

What your clothes make look like:

[stylemeupt.files.wordpress.com image 850x1133]


Significantly heavier on the right side?
 
2014-02-20 01:25:05 AM  
Everybody Panic!
 
2014-02-20 01:25:09 AM  
Dry cleaning aside, I will never be good enough at ironing or willing enough to spend my free time ironing to not need to have my dress shirts professionally laundered and pressed.

I can't imagine just buying "wrinkle free" shirts and putting them through the regular wash, even on gentle/low, but then again I don't work in IT.
 
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2014-02-20 01:58:13 AM  

Insaniteus: I work at a dry cleaners, and that article has precisely ZERO idea what it is talking about.  Wet cleaning is nowhere NEAR as gentle on clothes as dry cleaning them!  We require a signed release form before we will wet clean anything that isn't machine washable.

Wet cleaning is used to get out tough stains and smells, since dry cleaning doesn't affect smells.  It is only to be used as a backup in the event that dry cleaning fails, because we can ruin the shiat out of a suit or silk/wool/rayon item that way.  It can put permanent water rings on items or strip the color out of them.

Also, dry cleaning is used even on washable items like shirts and jeans in order to remove grease stains, because DCing items annihilates grease that can survive basic washing or wet cleaning.


tl:dr version:  The article is full of crap, dry cleaning is vastly superior to wet cleaning except in the cases of smells and extreme stains.  Wet cleaning will never, and should never, replace it.

t
can't tell if trolling, but why would you clean anything if it's not stained or smelly?
 
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