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(Blogger.com)   Google looking into rolling out fiber to 34 more cities. No, not your city. You're still stuck with Comcast/TWC   (googlefiberblog.blogspot.com) divider line 90
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2014-02-19 05:05:18 PM  
Yeah, they've been such a smash hit since they rolled out here in Austin.

Oh wait.
 
2014-02-19 05:20:38 PM  

serial_crusher: Yeah, they've been such a smash hit since they rolled out here in Austin.

Oh wait.


what's wrong with Google Fiber in Austin? i didn't even know it existed there until just now.
 
2014-02-19 05:45:53 PM  
*Checks list*
nooooooooooooooo.com
Subby is right. I am stuck with TWComcast.
 
2014-02-19 05:53:18 PM  
I'm stuck with DSL. Only option where I live which doesn't have monthly caps... yet anyway.
 
2014-02-19 06:02:32 PM  

the801: serial_crusher: Yeah, they've been such a smash hit since they rolled out here in Austin.

Oh wait.

what's wrong with Google Fiber in Austin? i didn't even know it existed there until just now.


They've been saying it's coming, but taking their sweet time.  A little disingenuous of this blog post to list us and Provo as "current Google Fiber cities".
 
2014-02-19 06:08:42 PM  

albert71292: I'm stuck with DSL. Only option where I live which doesn't have monthly caps... yet anyway.


That's why I'm happy with DSL.  No caps means three kids streaming or gaming is no big deal
 
2014-02-19 06:10:05 PM  

the801: what's wrong with Google Fiber in Austin? i didn't even know it existed there until just now.


That's the thing -- it doesn't exist.  And despite all the hoopla, I have no idea when, if ever, i will get Google Fiber.
 
2014-02-19 06:10:35 PM  
Why doesn't Google deploy straight at Comcasts heart in the Delaware Valley area?
 
2014-02-19 06:10:37 PM  
Cool. The more fiber to the home, the better. If Google or other providers do it in enough places, the big guys (Comcast/ATT etc.) will have to follow suit eventually, even though they hate it (why upgrade the systemwhen they already have you by the balls and can charge you whatever they want?).

Higher speeds at lower prices benefits everyone.
 
2014-02-19 07:02:34 PM  
Phoenix? Hope that includes Peoria.

Phoenix, Tempe, Scottsdale

FARK!

And I'm sure Cox won't use that as an excuse to raise their rates again once they start losing customers to Google.

/Yeah I know, as if they ever need an excuse other than 'fark you'
 
2014-02-19 07:04:37 PM  

Prometheus_Unbound: Phoenix? Hope that includes Peoria.

Phoenix, Tempe, Scottsdale

FARK!

And I'm sure Cox won't use that as an excuse to raise their rates again once they start losing customers to Google.

/Yeah I know, as if they ever need an excuse other than 'fark you'


The sheer square mileage of Phoenix I think counts it out. I finally dropped Cox after they hiked my rate twice in a twelve month period.

PLEASE COME HERE GOOGLE!
 
2014-02-19 07:05:49 PM  
Prometheus_Unbound: And I'm sure Cox won't use that as an excuse to raise their rates again once they start losing customers to Google.

I can't wait for the day when I find a decent house at a decent price that's not stuck in a valley somewhere.

Then I can stick a big antenna loop up in the attic and cut the last bit of cable.

// right now, television signals fly way over my head ... and since I'm in a condo I can't exactly stick a gigantic antenna up on the roof.
 
2014-02-19 07:14:11 PM  
Portland? OHPLEASE OHPLEASE OHPLEASE OHPLEASE OHPLEASE OHPLEASE
 
2014-02-19 07:15:06 PM  
Why haven't they gone for Chicago or New York yet? I'd think those would be big areas for them. Google, please set up a hub in Chicago and expand to the surrounding suburbs. I don't want Comcast anymore.
 
2014-02-19 07:18:38 PM  

serial_crusher: the801: serial_crusher: Yeah, they've been such a smash hit since they rolled out here in Austin.

Oh wait.

what's wrong with Google Fiber in Austin? i didn't even know it existed there until just now.

They've been saying it's coming, but taking their sweet time.  A little disingenuous of this blog post to list us and Provo as "current Google Fiber cities".


They are not taking their sweet time.  AT&T does not want to give up access to the poles because they see google as a serious threat, which is why AT&T rolled out their 300 meg project in Austin, because google is nipping at their heels.

http://stopthecap.com/2013/12/12/powerplay-att-says-google-fiber-can no t-use-its-utility-poles-in-austin/
 
2014-02-19 07:23:49 PM  
I'd be happy simply getting FiOS as an option. It's either expensive/crappy Comcast or sluggish DSL.
 
2014-02-19 07:23:56 PM  
No Google fibre in VA yet? Oh well, at least I have Verizon FiOS instead of Comcrap.

But there is a nasty rumor running around that Comcast managed to force Verizon to stop rolling out FiOS to new areas because it was taking away too many customers...
 
2014-02-19 07:25:03 PM  
Yes, it is my city ... but still not sure I care.
 
2014-02-19 07:32:29 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: Why haven't they gone for Chicago or New York yet? I'd think those would be big areas for them. Google, please set up a hub in Chicago and expand to the surrounding suburbs. I don't want Comcast anymore.


If you live on the South Side of Chicago you will soon be able to get Gigabit fiber.
 
2014-02-19 07:38:51 PM  

NeoCortex42: I'd be happy simply getting FiOS as an option. It's either expensive/crappy Comcast or sluggish DSL.


My phone company just switched to fiber, to include TV(from phone and DSL only).

Unfortunately, it's speeds are more like cable 10 years ago, and that's with paying extra to upgrade to 10mb.(ie downloads 1,oook/s, whatever the right damn labels are).

Sure, beats 1-3mb packages, but it's still scheistery, knowing they're the only company out here.

On the birght side, my ping went way down, so gaming has improved vastly.
 
2014-02-19 07:42:25 PM  
Where I live, when they talk about installing fiber, they mean replacing the strings between the tomato soup cans
 
2014-02-19 07:43:30 PM  
what's wrong with a 1200 baud modem?
 
2014-02-19 07:43:31 PM  
As much as I am not in favor of Google becoming an even larger company, I do love the 'Invisible Hand of the Free Market' fisting the cable and phone companies who don't seem willing to try to compete.
 
2014-02-19 07:45:21 PM  

jaharley: Yes, it is my city ... but still not sure I care.


Same here, though I think I might care if the price/speed works out considerably better than my current setup (through a wireless ISP). It will have to be one hell of a lot better deal for me to welcome Google as my new Advertising Overlord, though.
 
2014-02-19 07:45:24 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: As much as I am not in favor of Google becoming an even larger company, I do love the 'Invisible Hand of the Free Market' fisting the cable and phone companies who don't seem willing to try to compete.


They are one of the few companies that has the money to do this without trying to get the government to foot the bill. The only other companies I can think of that may be able to do this are Microsoft and Apple.
 
2014-02-19 07:48:53 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: albert71292: I'm stuck with DSL. Only option where I live which doesn't have monthly caps... yet anyway.

That's why I'm happy with DSL.  No caps means three kids streaming or gaming is no big deal


One kid here, and with the 6Mbps connection, if he starts doing something bandwidth heavy, my speed starts slowing down dramatically! But with all the streaming audio/video I listen to and watch, and the games he downloads, I'm dealing with the slowness. Using a small, local DSL provider. Both other options, AT&T DSL and Comcrap have caps.
 
2014-02-19 07:51:33 PM  

the801: serial_crusher: Yeah, they've been such a smash hit since they rolled out here in Austin.

Oh wait.

what's wrong with Google Fiber in Austin? i didn't even know it existed there until just now.


What's "wrong" with it is that it doesn't actually go live until later this year, and serial_crusher is really impatient.
 
2014-02-19 07:52:15 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: As much as I am not in favor of Google becoming an even larger company, I do love the 'Invisible Hand of the Free Market' fisting the cable and phone companies who don't seem willing to try to compete.


If you ever wander in to the Church of Free Markets, they always claim that Comcast, AT&T, etc. aren't examples of the free market in action, because those companies are monopolies. And apparently the free market itself never results in monopolies. You just have to have faith in that part.
 
2014-02-19 07:57:13 PM  
Santa Clara County What! What!!!

Woohoo! Please oh please come to my street!!! I'll be good I promise!
 
2014-02-19 07:58:13 PM  

albert71292: Smeggy Smurf: albert71292: I'm stuck with DSL. Only option where I live which doesn't have monthly caps... yet anyway.

That's why I'm happy with DSL.  No caps means three kids streaming or gaming is no big deal

One kid here, and with the 6Mbps connection, if he starts doing something bandwidth heavy, my speed starts slowing down dramatically! But with all the streaming audio/video I listen to and watch, and the games he downloads, I'm dealing with the slowness. Using a small, local DSL provider. Both other options, AT&T DSL and Comcrap have caps.


Make him only download games and such right before bed or school or something.  That's how we balanced it out.  Afternoon's / evenings are for playing/watching, not waiting on downloads.
 
2014-02-19 08:02:43 PM  

styckx: Why doesn't Google deploy straight at Comcasts heart in the Delaware Valley area?


Because it would mean they were actually serious and not just marketing bullshiat.
 
2014-02-19 08:10:50 PM  

omeganuepsilon: albert71292: Smeggy Smurf: albert71292: I'm stuck with DSL. Only option where I live which doesn't have monthly caps... yet anyway.

That's why I'm happy with DSL.  No caps means three kids streaming or gaming is no big deal

One kid here, and with the 6Mbps connection, if he starts doing something bandwidth heavy, my speed starts slowing down dramatically! But with all the streaming audio/video I listen to and watch, and the games he downloads, I'm dealing with the slowness. Using a small, local DSL provider. Both other options, AT&T DSL and Comcrap have caps.

Make him only download games and such right before bed or school or something.  That's how we balanced it out.  Afternoon's / evenings are for playing/watching, not waiting on downloads.


Well, even if he tries to talk on Skype, it drags my end down. He's out of school, but has a part time job with awkward hours. He's looking for something a bit more stable though. If I had a bit more change to spare, I'd just have a second DSL line run to the house.
 
2014-02-19 08:12:38 PM  
I used to have a Google office about five blocks from my house.  Now the office is only a couple miles down the road.  WHERE IS MY FIBER?
 
2014-02-19 08:14:33 PM  
My hometown doesn't have comcast OR time warner.

Or google. =(
 
2014-02-19 08:17:05 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: albert71292: I'm stuck with DSL. Only option where I live which doesn't have monthly caps... yet anyway.

That's why I'm happy with DSL.  No caps means three kids streaming or gaming is no big deal


I would kill for Comcast or TWC.  The fastest Internet I can get is "1.5 from AT&T," which is lucky to top out around .8 most days.  Pandora typically works, Netflix is impossible, I have to use a keepvid-like site to watch a YouTube video, and gaming is laggy at best.

Insight (recently bought out by TWC) told me they were 2.2 miles away, and they would run the cable for me if I paid $46,000.  I asked if I would get to keep the revenue from the other 20 or so houses this would also provide service to.
 
2014-02-19 08:21:00 PM  
We don't need Google Fiber - the electric company here brought in fiber TV, phone and Internet a little over 3 years ago.  I love, love, love having  gigabit bandwidth.
 
2014-02-19 08:24:52 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Where I live, when they talk about installing fiber, they mean replacing the strings between the tomato soup cans


Eat your Metamucil if you want more fiber!  I'm not sure why where I live they don't have fiber, but it must be hard wiring an apartment complex that was built in the last 10 years or so.
 
2014-02-19 08:25:29 PM  
i60.tinypic.com
 
2014-02-19 08:26:01 PM  

Prometheus_Unbound: Phoenix? Hope that includes Peoria.

Phoenix, Tempe, Scottsdale

FARK!

And I'm sure Cox won't use that as an excuse to raise their rates again once they start losing customers to Google.

/Yeah I know, as if they ever need an excuse other than 'fark you'


Woohoo, Tempe!
 
2014-02-19 08:32:07 PM  

serial_crusher: the801: serial_crusher: Yeah, they've been such a smash hit since they rolled out here in Austin.

Oh wait.

what's wrong with Google Fiber in Austin? i didn't even know it existed there until just now.

They've been saying it's coming, but taking their sweet time.  A little disingenuous of this blog post to list us and Provo as "current Google Fiber cities".


Same thing happened in Kansas City.

They have to put in the fiber so it takes a long time to wire a whole city for that. Only select parts of Kansas City have it and only now are they expanding it to surrounding suburbs. I've heard it's real good, but considering all the infrastructure they have to put in place in order for them to get it to your house, you have to be patient.
 
2014-02-19 08:38:18 PM  

theflatline: serial_crusher: the801: serial_crusher: Yeah, they've been such a smash hit since they rolled out here in Austin.

Oh wait.

what's wrong with Google Fiber in Austin? i didn't even know it existed there until just now.

They've been saying it's coming, but taking their sweet time.  A little disingenuous of this blog post to list us and Provo as "current Google Fiber cities".

They are not taking their sweet time.  AT&T does not want to give up access to the poles because they see google as a serious threat, which is why AT&T rolled out their 300 meg project in Austin, because google is nipping at their heels.

http://stopthecap.com/2013/12/12/powerplay-att-says-google-fiber-can no t-use-its-utility-poles-in-austin/


Cities should lay the fiber. Seriously, put the fiber in, but don't sell the Internet, TV, or Phone. The only people on 'City Fiber' service would be the city government. Lease Co-Lo space and let anyone sell it. The cities provide the last few miles, but since they aren't selling anything (but Co-Lo) they should be exempt from the legal malarkey phone and cable companies have wrought.

Common carrier. Joe could sell the Net right next to Time Warner, AT&T, Comcast, Verizon, et al.

Of course they'd all fight Tooth and Nail to keep it from getting done...
 
2014-02-19 08:39:14 PM  
Shameless corporate shill here.

if you're in Chicago, DC, Philly 'burb area, lehigh valley, Boston, or New York, look into RCN.  Yeah, I work for 'em.  All I'm gonna say, is, 25/50/75 (110 in some areas atm), and we're full net neutrality.  Go ahead and fire up bittorrent.  Peg that downstream into the red.  Keep it there.  You know what will happen?  Nothing.  No traffic shaping.  No throttling of the connections.  Our UBRs are undersold, so we don't gotta throttle anyone to make peak hour issues apparently go away.  We don't have any.  Just don't make the feds fax us john doe summons-es, and we'll keep force feeding you data.

/gotta love small companies
//especially ones that still obey net neutrality
///posting this from work
 
2014-02-19 08:40:50 PM  
Nashville
 
2014-02-19 08:41:42 PM  
I'm on the list, I'm on the list, nahnahnahnahnahnah I'm on the list.

wooohooooooooooo
 
2014-02-19 08:42:14 PM  
 
2014-02-19 08:46:15 PM  

Slives: No Google fibre in VA yet? Oh well, at least I have Verizon FiOS instead of Comcrap.

But there is a nasty rumor running around that Comcast managed to force Verizon to stop rolling out FiOS to new areas because it was taking away too many customers...


They may have just not been making money on it. In my areas, they sold their FiOS business to Frontier, who promptly dropped the TV channels for new customers in favor of satellite and the internet suddenly started having frequent outages. They also managed to screw up the billing so badly that I had to call in and get something fixed on the account every month just to pay them. Apparently having the same user name for the email service and my account login caused their computer system to blow up.
 
2014-02-19 08:47:23 PM  
 
2014-02-19 09:02:03 PM  
i1.kym-cdn.com 

www.speedtest.net
 
2014-02-19 09:08:34 PM  

styckx: Why doesn't Google deploy straight at Comcasts heart in the Delaware Valley area?


They're rallying the troops first.

Cpl.D: Shameless corporate shill here.

if you're in Chicago, DC, Philly 'burb area, lehigh valley, Boston, or New York, look into RCN.  Yeah, I work for 'em.  All I'm gonna say, is, 25/50/75 (110 in some areas atm), and we're full net neutrality.  Go ahead and fire up bittorrent.  Peg that downstream into the red.  Keep it there.  You know what will happen?  Nothing.  No traffic shaping.  No throttling of the connections.  Our UBRs are undersold, so we don't gotta throttle anyone to make peak hour issues apparently go away.  We don't have any.  Just don't make the feds fax us john doe summons-es, and we'll keep force feeding you data.

/gotta love small companies
//especially ones that still obey net neutrality
///posting this from work


Come out to the Chi-burbs. Granted I'm farther out than many, but I'm halfway to Milwaukee so look at it like a network expansion opportunity into "the good land"
 
2014-02-19 09:08:53 PM  
I wish Google good luck in bringing Fiber into North Carolina.  The last time a competitor dared to offer broadband in NC, TWC spent $6,000,000 in donations to NC senators and the Time Warner Cable Protection Act was born.  This law prevents any new competition from doing business in NC, but hasn't stopped TWC from arguing they are exempt from FCC laws governing monopolies.

The result?

If you look at how much broadband costs on average in each city in the US, and then look at the 10 most expensive cities, 7 of those are in NC.
 
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