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(Daily Express)   Could this 87-year-old Spanish Duchess become the next Queen of Scotland?   (express.co.uk) divider line 23
    More: Interesting, Queen of Scotland, Scotland, queen, Charles I, First Minister Alex Salmond, Queen Anne, Duchess, head of state  
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2014-02-19 05:57:53 PM  
5 votes:
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The Duchess of Alba married a civil servant 24 years her junior in 2011
2014-02-19 02:34:25 PM  
5 votes:

Bob Falfa: Do we care?


Deeply! Scotch is made there!
2014-02-19 09:12:48 PM  
4 votes:
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Keith Richards before the hair plugs.

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Keith Richards after the hair plugs.
2014-02-19 07:17:17 PM  
3 votes:

what_now: DamnYankees: No. Why would they not keep Queen Elizabeth?

How long do you have?

Basically, the Kings of England have farked with Scotland for a thousand years. Henry the II tried to wipe out the entire boarder- you've seen Braveheart. Besides the made up romance, it's pretty accurate. Henry the...(fourth? I think?) captured the children and wives of the Scottish barons and murdered and raped them- in that order. Others, he hung from cages outside for YEARS.

Henry the 7th married his daughter off to the Stuart king, and then invaded. Henry's Granddaughter Elizabeth executed their Queen (Mary Stuart), and then named Mary's son her heir. So the Scottish Stuarts were now Kings of England.

But a few generations later, the Stuart King decided to be a Catholic, so they kicked him out, and invited his daughter and son in law (William and Mary) to come be King and Queen instead, and when they died, they Hanovers- the current ruling family took over.

A few generations after that, the grandson of that Stuart King tried to invade through Scotland. The British didn't just beat the Scots- they wiped out survivors, women, children, animals and fields. They burned crops, they destroyed buildings.

Google "Culloden". The Scottish aren't happy with the Hanovers (Windsors). There's a reason that when Elizabeth dies, her son will take a name other than "King Charles".


It's almost like your knowledge of history is based on what some guy in a pub said one time, that you vaguely recall.
2014-02-19 08:22:53 PM  
2 votes:
Only if she can pull the sword from the stone.
2014-02-19 07:14:07 PM  
2 votes:

DamnYankees: what_now: DamnYankees: Yes, fair enough. But if that was the standard for rebellion then, is that not the same standard now? Would this random Spanish duchess treat them better than Elizabeth?

Well, she wouldn't have anything to do with them, same as Elizabeth. I think the question is- could they squeeze more tourist dollars out of people with a brand new monarchy, and the answer is probably yes.

Aren't there economic benefits to being part of the Commonwealth? I thought there were. But yea, this is a good point. I imagine the economics of it will matter.

Also, lets not pretend this matters - Scotland isn't declaring independence.


You can be in the Commonwealth without being a Commonwealth Realm - hell, Mozambique's in the the club because a British dude bought a farm there once.

That said, I want Duchess Meltface there to become Queen just for the lulz of making a nation of sheepshaggers contemplate celibacy.

"Angus, one look at yon cailleach I think me caber's gone aft agley."
2014-02-19 06:06:30 PM  
2 votes:
and a big round of applause to her for earning every penny in her account through hard work & determination.
2014-02-19 06:00:18 PM  
2 votes:
She reminds me of this guy:


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2014-02-19 03:36:15 PM  
2 votes:
The Last King of Scotland didn't work out all that well.  Maybe they should just give it a rest.
2014-02-20 12:00:47 AM  
1 votes:
fc08.deviantart.net
2014-02-19 11:32:36 PM  
1 votes:
No one expects the Spanish coronation!
2014-02-19 09:53:51 PM  
1 votes:

naughtyrev: No.


Oh come on:  that is the face of Scotland, if ever there was one.
2014-02-19 08:24:35 PM  
1 votes:

OooShiny: 'Make me king, rename it Trumpland and I'll save your country by turning the whole place into a tartan-themed mini-golf astroplex financed by crushing junk debt that will haunt your descendants for the next 500 years.'

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2014-02-19 08:17:08 PM  
1 votes:
If she's nay Scottish she's CRAP!
2014-02-19 08:13:44 PM  
1 votes:
Becoming Queen of Scotland?  Isn't that like winning the Bronze in the Special Olympics?
2014-02-19 07:57:45 PM  
1 votes:
It is a tough decision to make, but if I had to choose between living under Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart, the Dutchess of Alba, and Camilla, the Royal Steed of Cornwall, I think I would seek asylum elsewhere.
2014-02-19 07:45:00 PM  
1 votes:
'Make me king, rename it Trumpland and I'll save your country by turning the whole place into a tartan-themed mini-golf astroplex financed by crushing junk debt that will haunt your descendants for the next 500 years.'

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2014-02-19 07:40:16 PM  
1 votes:

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Am I the only one wondering why an independent Scotland would need a monarch of any sort? I get if they stay a Commonwealth realm they'd keep Lizzy Deuce and the wacky Windsors as their royals like Canada or Australia do, but if they're even suggesting going far enough to not answer to that throne, why any?


Nobody in the UK answers to the reigning monarch. She's a ceremonial head of state.

Having seen the level of political debate on Fark, I quite like the idea of separating the person that represents the country from the government of the country.

I'm also suspicious of constitutional reform from the angle of politicians working the system to give themselves even greater powers.

what_now: DamnYankees: No. Why would they not keep Queen Elizabeth?

How long do you have?


It's already settled. If Scotland chooses to leave the UK this year, the SNP tell us that Elizabeth will remain as head of state. And, we'll keep enter a currency union with the rest of the UK, to keep the pound sterling and have influence in the Bank of England. And we'll still be a part of the EU, despite Barroso saying that it would require a ballot of all member states - one that countries with secessionist regions, such as Spain, would veto. And we'll enjoy a welfare state as luxurious as Scandinavian countries, but without their high tax rates.

And we'll still be able to watch Eastenders.

Basically, the Kings of England have farked with Scotland for a thousand years. Henry the II tried to wipe out the entire boarder- you've seen Braveheart. Besides the made up romance, it's pretty accurate. Henry the...(fourth? I think?) captured the children and wives of the Scottish barons and murdered and raped them- in that order. Others, he hung from cages outside for YEARS.

Henry the 7th married his daughter off to the Stuart king, and then invaded. Henry's Granddaughter Elizabeth executed their Queen (Mary Stuart), and then named Mary's son her heir. So the Scottish Stuarts were now Kings of England.

But a few generations later, the Stuart King decided to be a Catholic, so they kicked him out, and invited his daughter and son in law (William and Mary) to come be King and Queen instead, and when they died, they Hanovers- the current ruling family took over.

A few generations after that, the grandson of that Stuart King tried to invade through Scotland. The British didn't just beat the Scots- they wiped out survivors, women, children, animals and fields. They burned crops, they destroyed buildings.

Google "Culloden". The Scottish aren't happy with the Hanovers (Windsors). There's a reason that when Elizabeth dies, her son will take a name other than "King Charles".


This Scot, and, in my opinion, any self aware Scot, doesn't give a fark about any of that. All of those people are dead. How does that relate to what's going on today?

Any history prior to the Act of Union is pretty much null and void. Sure, perhaps some of my ancestors were treated poorly, but some of my ancestors may have been reavers that made the Borders a no man's land. And the Act of Union made Scotland part of a global power.

tl;dr version: The SNP's rhetoric plays to the anti-English bigotry of a portion of Scots. When told that things won't work like they say they will, they insist that it'll be fine, and the other side's just bluffing. They make promises that would mean massive tax hikes, ejection from the EU, and having to use a currency which they don't control. And were a yes vote to be delivered, I don't think most Scots outside the central belt would see any improvement of government over a Westminster government.

/This really grinds my gears.
2014-02-19 07:12:47 PM  
1 votes:
Will England have to give back the Stone of Scone?  Or maybe just lend it out for coronations?
2014-02-19 06:07:24 PM  
1 votes:
All hail the Lizard Queen
2014-02-19 06:03:29 PM  
1 votes:
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2014-02-19 05:55:48 PM  
1 votes:
Only after Ian McKellen dies.
2014-02-19 05:40:18 PM  
1 votes:
I don't know but I envision cutting of my ding-dong and feeding it to my dog before she takes me up on a forced offer of primae noctis.
 
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