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2014-02-19 10:20:58 AM
If you want to convince me that being gay is a lifestyle choice, the easiest way to do that would be for you to prove it is by being gay for a relatively short period of time. Say, long enough for a guy to suck your cock or a girl to eat your twat, whichever applies.
 
2014-02-19 10:27:43 AM

Serious Black: If you want to convince me that being gay is a lifestyle choice, the easiest way to do that would be for you to prove it is by being gay for a relatively short period of time. Say, long enough for a guy to suck your cock or a girl to eat your twat, whichever applies.


Straight married republicans have been proving that for decades.
 
2014-02-19 11:02:16 AM
"We hate people who aren't like us, and treat them poorly. In what way are we bigots?"
 
2014-02-19 11:09:16 AM
They treat you like bigots because that's what you are.
 
2014-02-19 11:46:43 AM
and lookee here we have a sighting of "aren't they the REAL bigots for being intolerant of our intolerance actions"? in the wild

" I don't feel we should have to compromise our values just to win the approval of our neighbors. But really, who is the true bigot here?  "
 
2014-02-19 11:47:11 AM
I just assume Dear Abby makes up the letters now.
 
2014-02-19 11:49:58 AM

Confabulat: I just assume Dear Abby makes up the letters now.


Hasn't she been dead for 50 years?
 
2014-02-19 11:50:57 AM

what_now: Confabulat: I just assume Dear Abby makes up the letters now.

Hasn't she been dead for 50 years?


It's passed along from generation to generation like the Phantom.
 
2014-02-19 11:53:42 AM
The fewer parties they host, the more time they can put into their Halloween Hell House's final room where Satan/Obama performs mandatory abortions with one hand while simultaneously holding Reagan's head in a "For Muslin Victory Mosque Builders Only" porta-shiatter with the other while the TV plays "The 700 Club" episodes where Pat Robertson's audio is dubbed over with the dialogue track from "Rodrigo and Ganymede's New Cellmate VII"
 
2014-02-19 11:55:38 AM
If I had been Dear Abby, I would've probably replied with something from the Bible, like the Parable of the Good Samaritan or something.

Fine if you don't like gays because Jesus, but don't be a dick about it.  I think Jesus would have more to say about that than anything else.
 
2014-02-19 11:57:44 AM

xanadian: If I had been Dear Abby, I would've probably replied with something from the Bible, like the Parable of the Good Samaritan or something.

Fine if you don't like gays because Jesus, but don't be a dick about it.  I think Jesus would have more to say about that than anything else.


Not being a dick is incredibly exhausting. Besides that, if I'm nice to teh gheys, then who do I have to be nice to next? The greasy Messicans?
 
2014-02-19 11:59:40 AM

Serious Black: If you want to convince me that being gay is a lifestyle choice, the easiest way to do that would be for you to prove it is by being gay for a relatively short period of time. Say, long enough for a guy to suck your cock or a girl to eat your twat, whichever applies.


I'd like to stay gay for an extra couple of days so I can enjoy getting ostracized by my friends and family, and being beaten by redneck assholes. The cocksucking is just icing on the cake.
 
2014-02-19 12:01:10 PM
I sure would. The first thing I'd like to say is that regardless of what you were told in your previous community, a person's sexual orientation isn't a "lifestyle choice." Gay people don't choose to be gay; they are born that way. They can't change being gay any more than you can change being heterosexual.

You'll be hard pressed to have a Christian admit that being gay isn't a choice. And that's because they can't fathom a creator who would create someone as an automatic sinner. If being gay isn't a choice, why would God force it onto them? Why would he have you ejected from that uterus already holding a one-way ticket to Hell?
 
2014-02-19 12:04:20 PM

scottydoesntknow: I sure would. The first thing I'd like to say is that regardless of what you were told in your previous community, a person's sexual orientation isn't a "lifestyle choice." Gay people don't choose to be gay; they are born that way. They can't change being gay any more than you can change being heterosexual.

You'll be hard pressed to have a Christian admit that being gay isn't a choice. And that's because they can't fathom a creator who would create someone as an automatic sinner. If being gay isn't a choice, why would God force it onto them? Why would he have you ejected from that uterus already holding a one-way ticket to Hell?


Original sin?
 
2014-02-19 12:07:34 PM

Serious Black: scottydoesntknow: I sure would. The first thing I'd like to say is that regardless of what you were told in your previous community, a person's sexual orientation isn't a "lifestyle choice." Gay people don't choose to be gay; they are born that way. They can't change being gay any more than you can change being heterosexual.

You'll be hard pressed to have a Christian admit that being gay isn't a choice. And that's because they can't fathom a creator who would create someone as an automatic sinner. If being gay isn't a choice, why would God force it onto them? Why would he have you ejected from that uterus already holding a one-way ticket to Hell?

Original sin?


Not really. You get over the original sin by being baptized. That doesn't really fly when you continue to do the exact same sin afterward as you did before. A gay guy (or girl) being baptized is still gay. The sin is not washed away because it is literally a part of them.
 
2014-02-19 12:09:43 PM
While they are nice enough, my husband and I did not include them when it was our turn to host because we do not approve of their lifestyle choices. Since then, we have been excluded from neighborhood gatherings, and someone even suggested that we are bigots!

So, your neighbors did not to include you when it was their turn to host because they do not approve of your lifestyle choices.  What's the problem?
 
2014-02-19 12:13:43 PM

scottydoesntknow: You'll be hard pressed to have a Christian admit that being gay isn't a choice. And that's because they can't fathom a creator who would create someone as an automatic sinner. If being gay isn't a choice, why would God force it onto them? Why would he have you ejected from that uterus already holding a one-way ticket to Hell?


So, a kid turning out to be gay must surprise God somehow?


Anyway, I'm pretty sure at least a few denominations believe exactly that some people or even MOST people are born holding a one-way ticket to Hell.  I'd have to go lookin' though, and I'm not really feeling up to it at work.
 
2014-02-19 12:18:30 PM

Relatively Obscure: scottydoesntknow: You'll be hard pressed to have a Christian admit that being gay isn't a choice. And that's because they can't fathom a creator who would create someone as an automatic sinner. If being gay isn't a choice, why would God force it onto them? Why would he have you ejected from that uterus already holding a one-way ticket to Hell?

So, a kid turning out to be gay must surprise God somehow?


Anyway, I'm pretty sure at least a few denominations believe exactly that some people or even MOST people are born holding a one-way ticket to Hell.  I'd have to go lookin' though, and I'm not really feeling up to it at work.


Christian sects that preach Calvinism believe God predestined some people to be lifted up into Heaven upon their death. They're the elect. Everyone else is condemned to Hell (or potentially annihilation).
 
2014-02-19 12:19:58 PM

Relatively Obscure: scottydoesntknow: You'll be hard pressed to have a Christian admit that being gay isn't a choice. And that's because they can't fathom a creator who would create someone as an automatic sinner. If being gay isn't a choice, why would God force it onto them? Why would he have you ejected from that uterus already holding a one-way ticket to Hell?

So, a kid turning out to be gay must surprise God somehow?


Anyway, I'm pretty sure at least a few denominations believe exactly that some people or even MOST people are born holding a one-way ticket to Hell.  I'd have to go lookin' though, and I'm not really feeling up to it at work.


No, but it usually surprises the parents.

And this is different from original sin. Yes, everyone born is technically already a sinner. But baptism is what washes that away. If you're gay and get baptized, guess what? You're still gay. You can't wash that away.

So why would God create people that must sin, even post-baptism?
 
2014-02-19 12:21:43 PM
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2014-02-19 12:22:12 PM
Welcome to the the 21 century, children of god.
 
2014-02-19 12:23:14 PM
What's being lost in this discussion is that, for a Dear Abby column, the response to that letter was a pretty good STFU/GBTW/EABOD/DIAF.  You don't normally see that level of smackdown from those columns.
 
2014-02-19 12:23:59 PM

Serious Black: If you want to convince me that being gay is a lifestyle choice, the easiest way to do that would be for you to prove it is by being gay for a relatively short period of time. Say, long enough for a guy to suck your cock or a girl to eat your twat, whichever applies.


Oh come on, man. People go to college all the time.
 
2014-02-19 12:24:33 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Not being a dick is incredibly exhausting. Besides that, if I'm nice to teh gheys, then who do I have to be nice to next? The greasy Messicans?


imgs.xkcd.com

Today's XKCD is surprisingly appropriate.
 
2014-02-19 12:25:01 PM
Ahh...  Christians.  They'll never quite understand why no one in America is required to believe their silly religion.
 
2014-02-19 12:25:03 PM
I can understand why "UNHAPPY IN TAMPA" did what she did. I have invited gay men to my parties before. Sooner or later one of them is sucking my cock.
 
2014-02-19 12:25:16 PM
It is like the church/church people just assume gay people are going to start having gay sex in open public.

The only thing that annoys me is gay people trying to convert you like the bible bangers. This means you are not really gay but angry at your parents.
 
2014-02-19 12:25:30 PM
I really don't get the whole "waaaaaah I want to treat other people like shiat because they're not like me and suddenly everyone's mean to me whyyyy" horseshiat that's been all the rage for certain conservatives lately.

You can talk shiat all you want.  You can treat people like crap if you really want, I guess.  But that all comes with consequences, for fark's sake.  Suck it up and deal or change your attitude, nancies.
 
2014-02-19 12:25:30 PM
Dear Abby,

We were rude to some of our neighbors and now all of our neighbors are avoiding us.  Why are we being oppressed?
 
2014-02-19 12:26:32 PM
Well, it looks like it's already too late and they are already being excluded by their neighbors so... yeah. Screw you, stupid bigots.
 
2014-02-19 12:26:52 PM
DRTA but I wanna say they said something like "I'm not a bigot but......." .
 
2014-02-19 12:28:06 PM

scottydoesntknow: So why would God create people that must sin, even post-baptism?


They get the extra-special temptation tests, in that they were made to desire to sin and must repress those biological urges for their salvation.  God in his "infinite love and compassion" felt like making their path into Heaven that much harder.  Or maybe their God is a raging douche and felt like screwing with them.  Whatever.
 
2014-02-19 12:28:17 PM

scottydoesntknow: If being gay isn't a choice, why would God force it onto them? Why would he have you ejected from that uterus already holding a one-way ticket to Hell?


Isn't that the concept of Original Sin? You're born holding a ticket to hell and you have to choose to avoid vice and accept God to be saved. Gay people just have a different set of temptations to overcome to avoid sin.
 
2014-02-19 12:28:49 PM
 If you are divorced from your wife, do her parents remain your in-laws? This is to settle a disagreement.
 
2014-02-19 12:29:05 PM

James!: what_now: Confabulat: I just assume Dear Abby makes up the letters now.

Hasn't she been dead for 50 years?

It's passed along from generation to generation like the Phantom.


Does this mean it's a lifestyle choice, or are you born being Dear Abby?
 
2014-02-19 12:30:14 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: "We hate people who aren't like us, and treat them poorly. In what way are we bigots?"


I bet they have some black friends too.
 
2014-02-19 12:30:22 PM
FTA:
Gay people don't choose to be gay; they are born that way. They can't change being gay any more than you can change being heterosexual.

There are a whole bunch of men in prison that really contradict this one Abby
 
2014-02-19 12:32:23 PM

scottydoesntknow: I sure would. The first thing I'd like to say is that regardless of what you were told in your previous community, a person's sexual orientation isn't a "lifestyle choice." Gay people don't choose to be gay; they are born that way. They can't change being gay any more than you can change being heterosexual.

You'll be hard pressed to have a Christian admit that being gay isn't a choice. And that's because they can't fathom a creator who would create someone as an automatic sinner. If being gay isn't a choice, why would God force it onto them? Why would he have you ejected from that uterus already holding a one-way ticket to Hell?


*raises hand*

See, that was pretty easy.

You're using the word "Christian" to mean "conservative Christian."  It may be a different situation in other countries, but at least in Western countries like the USA, there are plenty of more liberal denominations of Christianity which do not condemn homosexuality.

You're correct in general, however: those Christians who insist that homosexuality is a sin also maintain (and generally feel that they MUST maintain) that it's a choice, because, in general, most western Christians believe that sin is a choice and one can choose not to sin.  Of course, some will concede that the orientation is not a matter of choice, but will then argue around that concession by claiming that it's the sexual act, not the orientation, that is sinful.  And since (so the argument goes) one can choose celibacy, being a sexually-active homosexual is still a choice.
 
2014-02-19 12:32:47 PM

Vodka Zombie: Ahh...  Christians.  They'll never quite understand why no one in America is required to believe their silly religion.


But but but...ONE NATION UNDER GOD!!!!

I can think of like a dozen people I know that would have this exact, same reaction if they were put in this exact, same situation. It's incredibly sad, because they really don't see the hypocrisy. They really feel like they're allowed to treat gay people differently without consequence. I promise you that if this couple saw this response to their letter, they just kind of shook their heads sadly, said something about the "liberal media", and went back to looking for houses and jobs in Kansas or Alabama or wherever.
 
2014-02-19 12:32:50 PM

scottydoesntknow: Serious Black: scottydoesntknow: I sure would. The first thing I'd like to say is that regardless of what you were told in your previous community, a person's sexual orientation isn't a "lifestyle choice." Gay people don't choose to be gay; they are born that way. They can't change being gay any more than you can change being heterosexual.

You'll be hard pressed to have a Christian admit that being gay isn't a choice. And that's because they can't fathom a creator who would create someone as an automatic sinner. If being gay isn't a choice, why would God force it onto them? Why would he have you ejected from that uterus already holding a one-way ticket to Hell?

Original sin?

Not really. You get over the original sin by being baptized. That doesn't really fly when you continue to do the exact same sin afterward as you did before. A gay guy (or girl) being baptized is still gay. The sin is not washed away because it is literally a part of them.


Not how it works. Baptism doesn't absolve you of sin. And sinners who continue to commit the same sins over and over again can still make it into heaven The reasoning varies depending on the flavor of Christianity. You don't have any idea what you are talking about.


The reason, in my opinion, that Christians get all riled up over homosexuality is that it is a sin they know they are not tempted to commit. So they can feel superior in condemning it.
 
2014-02-19 12:32:51 PM
What's interesting is that if you take the "gay" out of the mathematical equation here, it exposes exactly the size of the jerks they're being: "We were invited to a party, but we didn't like some of the people there, even though they were nice and nothing but courteous towards us. Then they hosted a party, which we attended because hey, party. But we still didn't like them. So when we threw a party, we excluded them just because we didn't happen to like them. Now everyone thinks we're jerks. I'm so confused."

I tried to "choose" to be straight for a decade because of idiots like this. At my absolute kindest and most forgiving, all I can really say is that they'd be much happier around people like themselves. Their heads are very small, scared, sad places to be.
 
2014-02-19 12:33:00 PM

Serious Black: xanadian: If I had been Dear Abby, I would've probably replied with something from the Bible, like the Parable of the Good Samaritan or something.

Fine if you don't like gays because Jesus, but don't be a dick about it.  I think Jesus would have more to say about that than anything else.

Not being a dick is incredibly exhausting. Besides that, if I'm nice to teh gheys, then who do I have to be nice to next? The greasy Messicans?


It's Floriduh.  Probably Cubans. ....
 
2014-02-19 12:33:03 PM

Relatively Obscure: scottydoesntknow: You'll be hard pressed to have a Christian admit that being gay isn't a choice. And that's because they can't fathom a creator who would create someone as an automatic sinner. If being gay isn't a choice, why would God force it onto them? Why would he have you ejected from that uterus already holding a one-way ticket to Hell?

So, a kid turning out to be gay must surprise God somehow?


Anyway, I'm pretty sure at least a few denominations believe exactly that some people or even MOST people are born holding a one-way ticket to Hell.  I'd have to go lookin' though, and I'm not really feeling up to it at work.


I know that the Mormons don't. They believe that man is no longer being punished for what Adam did. That Jesus took care of that for us. That's why the don't baptize babies and wait until you are 8 when you supposedly have a better concept of right and wrong, since it's on you to not sin. It's more of you promising to choose the right, than a curse to be cleansed.

/grew up Mormon.
//totally not anymore
 
2014-02-19 12:33:25 PM
This schtick was original when those DJs faked that kid's birthday party invitation response.
 
2014-02-19 12:33:25 PM

kvinesknows: If you are divorced from your wife, do her parents remain your in-laws? This is to settle a disagreement.


No.
 
2014-02-19 12:34:29 PM
Can we please stop defending gay people by saying "being gay isn't a choice". Who gives a shiat? Whether its a choice or not is irrelevant, its unfounded bigotry either way.

By saying 'its not a choice', you're implying that if it were a choice it would be ok to hate them. Stop it.
 
2014-02-19 12:34:42 PM

Arumat: scottydoesntknow: So why would God create people that must sin, even post-baptism?

They get the extra-special temptation tests, in that they were made to desire to sin and must repress those biological urges for their salvation.  God in his "infinite love and compassion" felt like making their path into Heaven that much harder.  Or maybe their God is a raging douche and felt like screwing with them.  Whatever.


I asked a priest that once. His answer was that "nobody said God judged us all on the same scale". Everyone is judged seperately for their own life, not how morally they lived compared to others.
 
2014-02-19 12:34:51 PM

Vodka Zombie: Ahh...  Christians.  They'll never quite understand why no one in America is required to believe their silly religion.


You're every but as bigoted as the people in that letter, you know.
 
2014-02-19 12:35:32 PM

peasandcarrots: What's interesting is that if you take the "gay" out of the mathematical equation here, it exposes exactly the size of the jerks they're being: "We were invited to a party, but we didn't like some of the people there, even though they were nice and nothing but courteous towards us. Then they hosted a party, which we attended because hey, party. But we still didn't like them. So when we threw a party, we excluded them just because we didn't happen to like them. Now everyone thinks we're jerks. I'm so confused."

I tried to "choose" to be straight for a decade because of idiots like this. At my absolute kindest and most forgiving, all I can really say is that they'd be much happier around people like themselves. Their heads are very small, scared, sad places to be.


I don't think this works. It's perfectly normal and fine to exclude people form your social circle if you don't like them.

The issue here isn't that they excluded people they don't like. It's that they determined they didn't like a couple on bigoted grounds.
 
2014-02-19 12:35:57 PM

tnpir: What's being lost in this discussion is that, for a Dear Abby column, the response to that letter was a pretty good STFU/GBTW/EABOD/DIAF.  You don't normally see that level of smackdown from those columns.


True.  But that letter actually deserves a plain, flat out STFU....
 
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