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(The New Republic)   The only problem with that beautiful picture that went viral of a Syrian orphan is that his parents were standing 20 steps away when it was taken   (newrepublic.com) divider line 25
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2014-02-19 02:18:43 PM  
3 votes:

ashinmytomatoes: Prey4reign: And the famous photo of the South Vietnames Police Chief, General Loan, putting a slug in the side of a captured Viet Cong during Tet, set off shockwaves of protest over the depraved nature of our allies in South Vietnam.  The context of that photo was that the VC had been caught during the height of fighting when tempers were a mite on edge to begin with and the VC in question was known to General Loan to have been involved in the massacre of South Vietnamese in a number of villages just outside Saigon.

thatboyoverthere: Prey4reign: And the famous photo of the South Vietnames Police Chief, General Loan, putting a slug in the side of a captured Viet Cong during Tet, set off shockwaves of protest over the depraved nature of our allies in South Vietnam.  The context of that photo was that the VC had been caught during the height of fighting when tempers were a mite on edge to begin with and the VC in question was known to General Loan to have been involved in the massacre of South Vietnamese in a number of villages just outside Saigon.

Also I think the cop lost his family in those massacres.

Wow. I didn't know that. Pictures, I guess, can be taken out of context just as words can.



"The general killed the Viet Cong; I killed the general with my camera. Still photographs are the most powerful weapon in the world. People believe them, but photographs do lie, even without manipulation. They are only half-truths. What the photograph didn't say was, "What would you do if you were the general at that time and place on that hot day, and you caught the so-called bad guy after he blew away one, two or three American soldiers?"  -Eddie Adams (the guy who took the photo of the execution)
2014-02-19 12:31:48 PM  
3 votes:
And the famous photo of the South Vietnames Police Chief, General Loan, putting a slug in the side of a captured Viet Cong during Tet, set off shockwaves of protest over the depraved nature of our allies in South Vietnam.  The context of that photo was that the VC had been caught during the height of fighting when tempers were a mite on edge to begin with and the VC in question was known to General Loan to have been involved in the massacre of South Vietnamese in a number of villages just outside Saigon.
2014-02-19 02:01:18 PM  
2 votes:

brap: Never let the truth get in the way of a good story propaganda.


FTFY
2014-02-19 01:58:06 PM  
2 votes:
3.bp.blogspot.com
2014-02-19 01:56:20 PM  
2 votes:
People who glurge, expand, and otherwise make crap up always end up harming their cause.  Nothing new here.
2014-02-19 01:52:33 PM  
2 votes:

thatboyoverthere: Prey4reign: And the famous photo of the South Vietnames Police Chief, General Loan, putting a slug in the side of a captured Viet Cong during Tet, set off shockwaves of protest over the depraved nature of our allies in South Vietnam.  The context of that photo was that the VC had been caught during the height of fighting when tempers were a mite on edge to begin with and the VC in question was known to General Loan to have been involved in the massacre of South Vietnamese in a number of villages just outside Saigon.

Also I think the cop lost his family in those massacres.


Yeah, that was my take on it as well.

/Don't blame him actually.
2014-02-19 01:42:00 PM  
2 votes:
The Syrian civil war has no shortage of *actual* tragic stories. We dont need to make shiate up.
2014-02-19 12:49:07 PM  
2 votes:
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
2014-02-19 06:04:50 PM  
1 votes:

Need_MindBleach: kidgenius: HighZoolander: 20 steps? In Africa?

Isn't that like 2.5 Rhode Islands?

Sounds like the kid was pretty far behind if you ask me.

This is what happens when you fall behind in Africa

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 281x179]

The child's mother in that picture was actually standing a few feet away as well. Not that the child wasn't still starving of starvation, but the photographer deliberately cut the mother out to make a more emotional picture.


There's nothing wrong with doing that as I see it. However if it's not captioned or explained that he is walking with a group (including his family) that's where it gets a bit less truthy.  The fact that a 4 year-old is walking across a frickin desert to escape bloody civil war is compelling whether or not his family is 20 steps ahead him or not.

A lot of people have entirely missed the point.  Sure it's stupid and disingenious to suggest he's wandering the desert alone.  In fact saying or implying it takes away from the actual story that a small child is on what is essentially a forced march across a desert with what remains of his belongings in a plastic bag.
2014-02-19 05:29:35 PM  
1 votes:

thamike: Man On Pink Corner: thamike: Journalism 101 is actually the opposite.  You're talking about what passes for journalism on the cable news circuit these days.

Journalism 101 is more like, "Already tried your hand at writing fiction, but nobody would pay for it?  Well, here's your second chance!  Don't blow it, kid!"

It really isn't.


I hear you, but the fact is, news articles about people and situations that I'm personally familiar with are almost always lavishly embellished.  Why should I believe that this is true only in those cases?
2014-02-19 05:01:46 PM  
1 votes:

kidgenius: HighZoolander: 20 steps? In Africa?

Isn't that like 2.5 Rhode Islands?

Sounds like the kid was pretty far behind if you ask me.

This is what happens when you fall behind in Africa

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 281x179]


The child's mother in that picture was actually standing a few feet away as well. Not that the child wasn't still starving of starvation, but the photographer deliberately cut the mother out to make a more emotional picture.
2014-02-19 04:17:51 PM  
1 votes:

thamike: Journalism 101 is actually the opposite.  You're talking about what passes for journalism on the cable news circuit these days.


Journalism 101 is more like, "Already tried your hand at writing fiction, but nobody would pay for it?  Well, here's your second chance!  Don't blow it, kid!"
2014-02-19 04:14:54 PM  
1 votes:

thamike: karnal: That's Journalism 101: if you don't have a story make one up

Journalism 101 is actually the opposite.  You're talking about what passes for journalism on the cable news circuit these days.



Let's call it Libel Journalism
2014-02-19 03:18:08 PM  
1 votes:
Journalists, with only extremely rare exceptions, have already decided for themselves what story they want to tell you before they go on location/start reporting/looking for photo ops. And that's the story they tell, regardless. It's not quite fiction, but it's like those dramatized movies where it's starts out by saying "Based on true events".
2014-02-19 03:15:16 PM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Well, yeah, subs - but who's going to RT a picture with that caption?  Jesus - think of the clicks for fark's sake.

Prey4reign: And the famous photo of the South Vietnames Police Chief, General Loan, putting a slug in the side of a captured Viet Cong during Tet, set off shockwaves of protest over the depraved nature of our allies in South Vietnam.  The context of that photo was that the VC had been caught during the height of fighting when tempers were a mite on edge to begin with and the VC in question was known to General Loan to have been involved in the massacre of South Vietnamese in a number of villages just outside Saigon.

Oh - it was vengeance, not sadism.  That makes it all fine and dandy, then.


No, not fine and dandy, but hearing the facts deflates some of the outrage. We applaud when given the entirety of a situation, a weary hero cop/detective has finally had enough of some villain's shiat and does the person in by their own hands, because we know that proper justice would not have been served otherwise, so, yes, it still stands as a poignant image forever, but with the truth behind it, I am less sympathetic for the man being shot in the image.
2014-02-19 03:14:20 PM  
1 votes:
brap [TotalFark]

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

DNC motto since.... forever.
2014-02-19 03:08:50 PM  
1 votes:
upload.wikimedia.org

This one is sort of misleading also.  They made a whole movie about how misleading it was.
2014-02-19 02:21:01 PM  
1 votes:

jtown:


Yeah, I remember that movie. To think, nowadays you don't have to stage anything - the source material is already out there, and all that's necessary is to create a false context.

What I'm wondering is if this CNN anchor had anything to gain from perpetrating such a hoax, or if it was just a part of the organization's continuing effort to stoop to the level of Fox News.
2014-02-19 02:06:59 PM  
1 votes:
Almost all of those viral photos are bogus, or rather the captions with them are fake.
2014-02-19 01:54:10 PM  
1 votes:
Sadly, in 10 years that little boy will be on the streets throwing rocks or worse and have thousands of other young men beside him protesting who knows what and wishing for a weapon to join his brothers and relatives in the excitement of revolution or just the thrill of being involved in some form of anarchy.  Going to be long and hard to break the cycle.
2014-02-19 01:52:19 PM  
1 votes:

Prey4reign: And the famous photo of the South Vietnames Police Chief, General Loan, putting a slug in the side of a captured Viet Cong during Tet, set off shockwaves of protest over the depraved nature of our allies in South Vietnam.  The context of that photo was that the VC had been caught during the height of fighting when tempers were a mite on edge to begin with and the VC in question was known to General Loan to have been involved in the massacre of South Vietnamese in a number of villages just outside Saigon.


thatboyoverthere: Prey4reign: And the famous photo of the South Vietnames Police Chief, General Loan, putting a slug in the side of a captured Viet Cong during Tet, set off shockwaves of protest over the depraved nature of our allies in South Vietnam.  The context of that photo was that the VC had been caught during the height of fighting when tempers were a mite on edge to begin with and the VC in question was known to General Loan to have been involved in the massacre of South Vietnamese in a number of villages just outside Saigon.

Also I think the cop lost his family in those massacres.


Wow. I didn't know that. Pictures, I guess, can be taken out of context just as words can.
2014-02-19 01:50:39 PM  
1 votes:
The Internet is a giant lie factory
2014-02-19 01:47:29 PM  
1 votes:

Prey4reign: And the famous photo of the South Vietnames Police Chief, General Loan, putting a slug in the side of a captured Viet Cong during Tet, set off shockwaves of protest over the depraved nature of our allies in South Vietnam.  The context of that photo was that the VC had been caught during the height of fighting when tempers were a mite on edge to begin with and the VC in question was known to General Loan to have been involved in the massacre of South Vietnamese in a number of villages just outside Saigon.


Also I think the cop lost his family in those massacres.
2014-02-19 01:47:23 PM  
1 votes:
Because you can  always count on the media for accurate and truthful reporting...
2014-02-19 12:49:24 PM  
1 votes:
Well, yeah, subs - but who's going to RT a picture with that caption?  Jesus - think of the clicks for fark's sake.

Prey4reign: And the famous photo of the South Vietnames Police Chief, General Loan, putting a slug in the side of a captured Viet Cong during Tet, set off shockwaves of protest over the depraved nature of our allies in South Vietnam.  The context of that photo was that the VC had been caught during the height of fighting when tempers were a mite on edge to begin with and the VC in question was known to General Loan to have been involved in the massacre of South Vietnamese in a number of villages just outside Saigon.


Oh - it was vengeance, not sadism.  That makes it all fine and dandy, then.
 
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