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(CNN)   After yesterday's bloodshed, Ukrainian president Yanukovych decides to dial back the rhetoric and become a voice of reason. Just kidding, he orders protesters to "disassociate themselves" from each other or be considered enemies of the state   (cnn.com) divider line 337
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2014-02-19 04:05:13 PM
ahhh slava natsiya, nm
 
2014-02-19 04:05:21 PM

Jon H: Drone footage over Kiev


Huh. At 0:33, you can see a huge line of people, that stretches from behind the podium, right towards where the fires are. Good teamwork, they formed a line to bring stones to the barricades.
 
2014-02-19 04:06:52 PM
 
2014-02-19 04:11:54 PM

Philibuster: What are they yelling on stage?  Sounds like "slava nazi" ?


Not even a little bit.....

Slava Ukrayini = Glory to Ukraine

and the response is

Heroyim Slava = Heroes Glory
 
2014-02-19 04:14:19 PM

Philibuster: ahhh slava natsiya, nm


Sorry, I missed this comment, but this translation is "Glory (to the) Nation"
 
2014-02-19 04:20:27 PM
Questioned about the propriety of police action, Mr. Yanukovich responded "I will not buy this record, it is scratched."
 
2014-02-19 04:22:02 PM

FarkedOver: neo-nazi groups


FarkedOver: fascism


FarkedOver: right-wing neo-nazi groups


FarkedOver: Protestors who happen to be nazi


FarkedOver: Most of the groups are moderate right-wing to far right-wing.


FarkedOver: Nazi Party


FarkedOver: Neo-Nazis



FarkedOver: I'm just asking

 
2014-02-19 04:26:49 PM

LewDux: FarkedOver: neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: fascism

FarkedOver: right-wing neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: Protestors who happen to be nazi

FarkedOver: Most of the groups are moderate right-wing to far right-wing.

FarkedOver: Nazi Party

FarkedOver: Neo-Nazis


FarkedOver: I'm just asking


And?
 
2014-02-19 04:27:54 PM
Rise up, slave Ukraneetsa comrades, rise up and kill your oppressors.

/Ok, just kidding about the kill part. Tickle them to death.
 
2014-02-19 04:29:25 PM

FarkedOver: LewDux: FarkedOver: neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: fascism

FarkedOver: right-wing neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: Protestors who happen to be nazi

FarkedOver: Most of the groups are moderate right-wing to far right-wing.

FarkedOver: Nazi Party

FarkedOver: Neo-Nazis


FarkedOver: I'm just asking

And?


He's pointing out that nobody buys your "just asking questions" bullshiat, Glenn...
 
2014-02-19 04:30:51 PM
President Ukraine just announced truce with opposition according to BBC
 
2014-02-19 04:31:10 PM

FarkedOver: LewDux: FarkedOver: neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: fascism

FarkedOver: right-wing neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: Protestors who happen to be nazi

FarkedOver: Most of the groups are moderate right-wing to far right-wing.

FarkedOver: Nazi Party

FarkedOver: Neo-Nazis


FarkedOver: I'm just asking

And?


Nothing:D
 
2014-02-19 04:31:33 PM

LewDux: Hang


LewDux: believers

 
2014-02-19 04:33:00 PM

Farkin' Uke: He's pointing out that nobody buys your "just asking questions" bullshiat, Glenn...


It's really easy to make that leap with a snippet of a post.
 
2014-02-19 04:33:25 PM

LewDux: FarkedOver: neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: fascism

FarkedOver: right-wing neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: Protestors who happen to be nazi

FarkedOver: Most of the groups are moderate right-wing to far right-wing.

FarkedOver: Nazi Party

FarkedOver: Neo-Nazis


FarkedOver: I'm just asking


LOL
 
2014-02-19 04:34:22 PM

USCLaw2010: President Ukraine just announced truce with opposition according to BBC


SO I guess sacking the defence chief didn't have the desired effect. But it could be a trap

ackbar.jpg
 
2014-02-19 04:37:15 PM

Keith Dudemeister: Which side are Zakhaev and the ultranationalists on?


IDK but bring back Russian Al Bundy (Zhirinovsky)
 
2014-02-19 04:38:10 PM
"We hold the Ukrainian government primarily responsible for making sure that it is dealing with peaceful protesters in an appropriate way, that the Ukrainian people are able to assemble and speak freely about their interests without fear of repression,"

Huh?  Is he trying to be ironic or something?  This is how we deal with the mildest/peaceful of protest in the US:

cryptome.org
If the protesters (hell even one or two) acted like they are there it would look the same except the fires would be from burning bodies ignited by the hail of incendiary devices used to 'disperse' the crowd.

Lethal force would be authorized the *moment* an officer was seriously injured, and we know how our cops roll when lethal force is authorized.
 
2014-02-19 04:38:43 PM

Confabulat: traylor: Suddenly, the protesters are the bad guys?

Hey mods, this thread started off stupid. Can't we have an other thread instead?

Bioshock Infinite taught me that both sides are bad.


Dwarf Fortress taught me that all problems can be solved with the direct application of magma.
 
2014-02-19 04:40:03 PM

LewDux: FarkedOver: neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: fascism

FarkedOver: right-wing neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: Protestors who happen to be nazi

FarkedOver: Most of the groups are moderate right-wing to far right-wing.

FarkedOver: Nazi Party

FarkedOver: Neo-Nazis


FarkedOver: I'm just asking


Pwned
 
2014-02-19 04:42:27 PM

under a mountain: Pwned


Damn, the bar is set low these days for "pwning"
 
2014-02-19 04:43:23 PM

FarkedOver: Farkin' Uke: He's pointing out that nobody buys your "just asking questions" bullshiat, Glenn...

It's really easy to make that leap with a snippet of a post.


You and maggie have both been falsely pushing this "Neo Nazi Fascist protest" bullshiat all day! -there is no leap being made here.  Then again, you may be Newting us with "People that directly quote me are lying" in which case I'm not even going to bother with you anymore...
 
2014-02-19 04:45:03 PM

Farkin' Uke: FarkedOver: Farkin' Uke: He's pointing out that nobody buys your "just asking questions" bullshiat, Glenn...

It's really easy to make that leap with a snippet of a post.

You and maggie have both been falsely pushing this "Neo Nazi Fascist protest" bullshiat all day! -there is no leap being made here.  Then again, you may be Newting us with "People that directly quote me are lying" in which case I'm not even going to bother with you anymore...


So if I did a google search for neo-nazi involvement in this protest, I would get zero search results?
 
2014-02-19 04:51:57 PM

FarkedOver: Farkin' Uke: FarkedOver: Farkin' Uke: He's pointing out that nobody buys your "just asking questions" bullshiat, Glenn...

It's really easy to make that leap with a snippet of a post.

You and maggie have both been falsely pushing this "Neo Nazi Fascist protest" bullshiat all day! -there is no leap being made here.  Then again, you may be Newting us with "People that directly quote me are lying" in which case I'm not even going to bother with you anymore...

So if I did a google search for neo-nazi involvement in this protest, I would get zero search results?


I'm sure there is a nonzero number of left-handed chicken farmers in the crowd as well.  Are you dense enough to start referring to this as a Left-Handed Chicken Farmer Protest?
 
2014-02-19 04:53:10 PM

thisisyourbrainonFark: [img.fark.net image 850x565]

From yesterday's thread.


Hey, photos of my 30th birthday party.
 
2014-02-19 04:57:43 PM

Farkin' Uke: FarkedOver: Farkin' Uke: He's pointing out that nobody buys your "just asking questions" bullshiat, Glenn...

It's really easy to make that leap with a snippet of a post.

You and maggie have both been falsely pushing this "Neo Nazi Fascist protest" bullshiat all day! -there is no leap being made here.  Then again, you may be Newting us with "People that directly quote me are lying" in which case I'm not even going to bother with you anymore...


I'll try and find the links from yesterday. The guys have black spray painted Russian helmets with a red emblem stamped on the side. Their are videos of the shooting riffles at the cops.
And no I have no idea of what kind of support they have but in revolutions the crazys can end up in charge.
 
2014-02-19 04:59:04 PM

LewDux: FarkedOver: neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: fascism

FarkedOver: right-wing neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: Protestors who happen to be nazi

FarkedOver: Most of the groups are moderate right-wing to far right-wing.

FarkedOver: Nazi Party

FarkedOver: Neo-Nazis


FarkedOver: I'm just asking


He's a Marxist anti-capitalist.

/says so on his profile
 
2014-02-19 05:03:47 PM
 
2014-02-19 05:07:11 PM
farm4.staticflickr.com

That's a good find especially if you're in a corrupt police office that you've just taken over.

/(I just recognize the emblem, I don't know what the text means)
 
2014-02-19 05:12:51 PM
 
2014-02-19 05:14:23 PM

flexflint: [farm4.staticflickr.com image 500x333]

That's a good find especially if you're in a corrupt police office that you've just taken over.

/(I just recognize the emblem, I don't know what the text means)


"Prosecutor's Office / Ternopil Oblast"
 
2014-02-19 05:15:27 PM

flexflint: [farm4.staticflickr.com image 500x333]

That's a good find especially if you're in a corrupt police office that you've just taken over.

/(I just recognize the emblem, I don't know what the text means)


Prosecutor for the Ternopil' Oblast (an Oblast is roughly analogous to an American state).
 
2014-02-19 05:16:11 PM

traylor: flexflint: [farm4.staticflickr.com image 500x333]

That's a good find especially if you're in a corrupt police office that you've just taken over.

/(I just recognize the emblem, I don't know what the text means)

"Prosecutor's Office / Ternopil Oblast"


You win this round, drug!
 
2014-02-19 05:20:10 PM

zerkalo: traylor: flexflint: [farm4.staticflickr.com image 500x333]

That's a good find especially if you're in a corrupt police office that you've just taken over.

/(I just recognize the emblem, I don't know what the text means)

"Prosecutor's Office / Ternopil Oblast"

You win this round, drug!


Looks like I'm not drunk enough. Don't blame me I'm working on it.
 
2014-02-19 05:22:25 PM

flexflint: He's a Marxist anti-capitalist.

/says so on his profile


I know. That's why he's panicking
upload.wikimedia.orgupload.wikimedia.org

I call it "teabagisation"
 
2014-02-19 05:22:56 PM

flexflint: [farm4.staticflickr.com image 500x333]

That's a good find especially if you're in a corrupt police office that you've just taken over.

/(I just recognize the emblem, I don't know what the text means)


The weapon is called a булава (boolava) and it's now an ornamental mace but it was used in the region back in the day (particularly nasty as the spikes would break off in the head or face of your opponent if you were using a wooden one).  I brought one back for my buddy from my trip as he had just bought his first place and I gave it to him as his first "security system" :D

Where they are sitting is the Prosecutor's Office of Ternopyl Oblast in Western Ukraine
 
2014-02-19 05:23:24 PM
Solidarity fires in Vilnius, Lithuania (use Google Translate; you used to be able to directly link to the translated page, but that doesn't work anymore, don't know why, sorry). Apparently it was broadcast live on the big screen at Maidan. (very dusty in here)

/traylor and zerkalo: thanks! ;)
 
2014-02-19 05:23:34 PM

traylor: zerkalo: traylor: flexflint: [farm4.staticflickr.com image 500x333]

That's a good find especially if you're in a corrupt police office that you've just taken over.

/(I just recognize the emblem, I don't know what the text means)

"Prosecutor's Office / Ternopil Oblast"

You win this round, drug!

Looks like I'm not drunk enough. Don't blame me I'm working on it.


горілка  all 'round then!
 
2014-02-19 05:30:38 PM
FarkedOver

You're just salty that they tore down that Lenin statue.


tinfoil-hat maggie
"The fact of the matter is we have made very clear to the Ukrainian government that it is their responsibility to allow for people (to) protest," Rhodes said.

"Peaceful protest" means "protest we agree with". People tried protesting in America two and a half years ago and everybody got arrested.

If there's one lesson from Euromaidan, and Tahrir for that matter, it's this: If you want your government to pay attention, you're going to have to set a whole lot of police on fire. Sorry moralizing pacifists, it's farking empirical at this point.
 
2014-02-19 05:32:01 PM
Good news, everyone! Cheney says we'll be treated as liberators, and the war will pay for itself!
 
2014-02-19 05:32:27 PM

Farkin' Uke: The weapon is called a булава (boolava)


Thanks for the info, much appreciated! In my language, it's called a "goedendag", literally: a "goodday" :).
 
2014-02-19 05:38:45 PM

LewDux: flexflint: He's a Marxist anti-capitalist.

/says so on his profile

I know. That's why he's panicking
[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x153][upload.wikimedia.org image 351x154]


Lol.
 
2014-02-19 05:41:38 PM
Just a heads-up: there's a third thread, http://www.fark.com/comments/8148982
 
2014-02-19 05:44:00 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: It's Europe versus Russia. Almost the Cold War battle our countries all longed for but now it's satellite conflict. I'm betting on Russia. It looks like Europe won't gain a toe-hold in Asia.


Ukraine isn't in Asia, Einstein.
 
2014-02-19 05:49:14 PM
@FarkedOver - This is what the people you support do.

pbs.twimg.com
 
2014-02-19 05:49:18 PM

FarkedOver: Farkin' Uke: FarkedOver: Farkin' Uke: He's pointing out that nobody buys your "just asking questions" bullshiat, Glenn...

It's really easy to make that leap with a snippet of a post.

You and maggie have both been falsely pushing this "Neo Nazi Fascist protest" bullshiat all day! -there is no leap being made here.  Then again, you may be Newting us with "People that directly quote me are lying" in which case I'm not even going to bother with you anymore...

So if I did a google search for neo-nazi involvement in this protest, I would get zero search results?



beer brewers involvement in ukraine protests

about 30,200,000 results

those are some sympathetic protesters
 
2014-02-19 05:56:02 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I gotta say, as much of a mess as this is, with the loss of life already incurred, with the loss of life that is sure to happen in the future, with the stamping out of human rights, etc., etc., I am just fine with sitting on the sidelines.


Protesters probably won't like your position, but they will fight till death for your right to sit on sidelines
 
2014-02-19 06:01:39 PM

danzak: Twilight Farkle: BBC reporting armed forces head Gen. Volodymyr Zamana has been dismissed. Replacement is Adm. Yuriy Ilyin. EU pondering sanctions.

That is scary.  Only reason to do this would be to put someone in who has no problem moving against the protesters.  If this happens, I'd expect at least some factions to break apart and support the protesters leading to a serious escalation.  I expect they would only mobilize from the East though, there were tanks on the way in December too, not sure what happened but they never made it to Kyiv.


Switching out the chief of staff is one thing, but, what is important is what the unit commanders do.  They may say "NO!", and then you find it's a little harder to replace someone who has, say, a regiment backing him up.  You can send a replacement and the unit commander can say, "Hi, welcome to the stockade."
 
2014-02-19 06:04:05 PM

FarkedOver: Svoboda, one of the more right-wing neo-nazi groups involved in the demostrations urges people to keep fighting the "Muscovite-Jewish mafia running Ukraine".  These are the protestors you are supporting.  Congrats.


The Stupid Train pulled into the station, right on schedule.  And the first one off, is FarkedOver, as usual.
 
2014-02-19 06:06:44 PM

flexflint: LewDux: FarkedOver: neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: fascism

FarkedOver: right-wing neo-nazi groups

FarkedOver: Protestors who happen to be nazi

FarkedOver: Most of the groups are moderate right-wing to far right-wing.

FarkedOver: Nazi Party

FarkedOver: Neo-Nazis


FarkedOver: I'm just asking

He's a Marxist anti-capitalist.

/says so on his profile


He's a creation who gets violent when you rub his face in his archaic and failed beliefs
 
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