Mikey1969: redmid17: Train would be OK by me in that case if you can get the tickets cheaper. I'd be glad to take a train if I had a decent schedule.Then there is another issue... Sadly, trains only go where the tracks are... In this part of the country, it's east-west, I can't go form Salt lake to Phoenix, or I would in a heartbeat. Hell, Amtrak won't even let me fark around and plan one where I go through somewhere like Sacramento first, I have to make it 2 separate trips, which increases the cost. It's a self-perpetuating loop, trains cost money, nobody wants to put money into rail systems unless they see a profit, they can't make a profit if they don't have an infrastructure, etc....
bdub77: Sure OK you're saving money but time is money. And being on a train for 19 hours sucks balls
Three Crooked Squirrels: I've got a nephew going to Kansas from New York on a train today, as it so happens. Ticket is $150 and takes something like 17 hours. He could get there in just a few hours by plane for $180. He says he is going by train because "his friends are going by train", but does not have a good reason for why they are traveling that way. I'm pretty sure I figured it out in about 12 seconds: no TSA means he can bring as much weed and whatever else he is using these days with him. Which, if that is the reason, seems like a much better reason than not liking the results dialed up on Berkley's carbon calculator.
FlashHarry: I live in a New York City apartment with tinier-than-normal energy-efficient appliances, I bike or take public transportation most places, I compost, the bulk of our food comes from the local farmer's market, I live walking distance to work, I fly only rarely. However, when I needed to go to the Ragdale Artists Colony in Lake Forest, Ill. (an hour outside of Chicago) to finish my novel, I took a look at the University of California, Berkeley's carbon calculator to see how much the short-ish flight would set the planet back.the pretentiousness... it burns!
Tom_Slick: She is spot on about security and baggage though, I used to have to transport large trade show displays from Atlanta to DC and when I did I always took Amtrak.
meyerkev: So if you're in Europe, and you have that nice central population corridor only a few hundred miles across with towns every couple of day's ride on horseback, yes, go nuts with trains.That's not to say that rail in America is useless, just that outside of few corridors, it makes a lot LESS sense than it would in say Europe.
Headso: I want to like Amtrak but man those seats are uncomfortable, the train I was on had those seats that end at your shoulder so there's no headrest.
bdub77: Why not just buy a carbon offset? You can purchase 2.4 tons of carbon offset from carbonfund.org for about 25 bucks. Or spend the extra I dunno 12 hours you'd save off the plane planting trees somewhere.Sure OK you're saving money but time is money. And being on a train for 19 hours sucks balls. And like the previous poster said I've never seen a round trip train ticket 1/3 the cost of airfare.
nekom: Is it still pretty much no1curr about bags? Haven't been on a train in awhile, but the Amtrak stop closest to here resembles a bus stop with a little kiosk. The train pulls up, you get on, you go.Amtrak: Travel with your weed! We don't give a shiat.
bdub77: And being on a train for 19 hours sucks balls.
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Tom_Slick: Pretty much, except for long distance trains with baggage cars for oversized items these are handled by Amtrak personnel so in theory you should keep contraband out of that . Your personal stuff you are taking to your seats is not checked, although now that all trains are completely non-smoking don't toke up on board.They frown on drinking at your seat too. Now on the other hand, if you have a berth, feel free to get hammered.
nekom: Tom_Slick: She is spot on about security and baggage though, I used to have to transport large trade show displays from Atlanta to DC and when I did I always took Amtrak.Is it still pretty much no1curr about bags? Haven't been on a train in awhile, but the Amtrak stop closest to here resembles a bus stop with a little kiosk. The train pulls up, you get on, you go.Amtrak: Travel with your weed! We don't give a shiat.
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