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(New York Daily News)   Chris Christie throws NJ Transit chief under the rail-bed for the Super Bowl snafu that left thousands of fans stranded in NJ for hours after the game   (nydailynews.com) divider line 32
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2014-02-19 09:56:50 AM
Wouldn't the NJ Transit Chief be the one in charge of something like that?
 
2014-02-19 10:01:24 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Wouldn't the NJ Transit Chief be the one in charge of something like that?


It was retribution.  Christie had money on the Broncos.
 
2014-02-19 10:25:02 AM
NJ Transit?  They had nothing to do with the NFL's hare brained policies.  But then again, if you let the NFL dictate how people will get to the game, you're probably a moron.
 
2014-02-19 10:31:49 AM
How long until this is cited as "Christie's true take-charge leadership and awesomeness unlike Hilary's insistence on watching 'Here Comes Honey Boo Boo' while the Benghazi heroes begged for Ted Cruz to be airdropped in to bludgeon the Muslim Atheist Terrorists with Freedoms?"
 
2014-02-19 10:33:17 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Wouldn't the NJ Transit Chief be the one in charge of something like that?


The NFL and Christie wanted to make it a mass-transit based Super Bowl, where people are discouraged from driving and parking at the Meadowlands and instead encouraged to take mass transit (trains and buses) to the Meadowlands instead.

The problem is, they severely underestimated how much people were going to take them up on the mass-transit promise.
 
2014-02-19 10:36:06 AM
"time for some traffic problems in the Broncos end zone"
 
2014-02-19 11:00:30 AM
Good. I thought that the chief should have been fired after he let 400 rail cars drown in a low lying train yard during Sandy despite many warnings to move the trains to higher ground.
 
2014-02-19 11:09:18 AM

damageddude: Good. I thought that the chief should have been fired after he let 400 rail cars drown in a low lying train yard during Sandy despite many warnings to move the trains to higher ground.


Pffft.  Who cares?   People were inconvenienced here!
 
2014-02-19 11:42:59 AM

RexTalionis: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Wouldn't the NJ Transit Chief be the one in charge of something like that?

The NFL and Christie wanted to make it a mass-transit based Super Bowl, where people are discouraged from driving and parking at the Meadowlands and instead encouraged to take mass transit (trains and buses) to the Meadowlands instead.

The problem is, they severely underestimated how much people were going to take them up on the mass-transit promise.


The plan they had was good for getting people to the game because people naturally will be arriving at different times to the game, and as long as they get there before game time you are cool. However after the game is a different story because everybody is leaving at the same time, and you are going to have a glut of people waiting for buses and trains. Having multiple ways for people to leave would have relaxed most of that glut.
 
2014-02-19 11:48:17 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Wouldn't the NJ Transit Chief be the one in charge of something like that?


No, it was Christie, he was in charge of everything, and forever will be. Toothpaste has a funny taste? Light bulbs not lasting as long as advertised? Halloween candy going stale? Toilet ring not disappearing? It's Christie's fault.

While we're at it, my cell phone isn't holding a charge as long as it used to, and my Nook takes too long to refresh when I turn pages, I sure hope someone finds out why Christie did that.

They had an ass-brained transit scheme from the beginning. Remember, you couldn't take a cab to the game, couldn't take a limo, and you couldn't walk up to the gate, you cold either take a shuttle or the train/bus, how did they NOT expect people to ride transit? What a dumbass, guy deserves to be cleaning up dog poop in the city park.
 
2014-02-19 11:53:38 AM
He was marked after they left a few hundred million dollars worth of new rolling stock in the swamp during sandy. S couple hours of platform chaos after the superbowl is just window dressing. Anyone who regularly commutes with NJT deals with that at least once a month.
 
2014-02-19 11:58:46 AM

Mikey1969: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Wouldn't the NJ Transit Chief be the one in charge of something like that?

No, it was Christie, he was in charge of everything, and forever will be. Toothpaste has a funny taste? Light bulbs not lasting as long as advertised? Halloween candy going stale? Toilet ring not disappearing? It's Christie's fault.

While we're at it, my cell phone isn't holding a charge as long as it used to, and my Nook takes too long to refresh when I turn pages, I sure hope someone finds out why Christie did that.

They had an ass-brained transit scheme from the beginning. Remember, you couldn't take a cab to the game, couldn't take a limo, and you couldn't walk up to the gate, you cold either take a shuttle or the train/bus, how did they NOT expect people to ride transit? What a dumbass, guy deserves to be cleaning up dog poop in the city park.


Thanks, Obama.
 
2014-02-19 12:13:09 PM

damageddude: Good. I thought that the chief should have been fired after he let 400 rail cars drown in a low lying train yard during Sandy despite many warnings to move the trains to higher ground.


Where exactly were they supposed to put them? It's not like they can just drive them to high ground.
 
2014-02-19 12:19:03 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: damageddude: Good. I thought that the chief should have been fired after he let 400 rail cars drown in a low lying train yard during Sandy despite many warnings to move the trains to higher ground.

Where exactly were they supposed to put them? It's not like they can just drive them to high ground.


Uh, Amtrak and the freight carriers do exactly that all of the time when their yards are threatened. Heck, the NJ Transit tracks run all the way to Philadelphia, so you could have gotten them inland.
 
2014-02-19 12:19:43 PM
Remember when Christie refused Federal monies to build a mass transit tunnel under the Hudson River to help alleviate some of the congestion on transit lines between NJ and NYC? Good times, good times.

/though whether the tunnels would have been ready for the super bowl is another matter of debate
//still, at least it would have looked like he's trying to solve the transit problems in the area instead of ordering ill timed "studies"
 
2014-02-19 12:21:54 PM
Well whoever was in charge of the transportation there and told people they couldnt drive should be fired. And whoever bribed the NFL to have it there should be shot.
 
2014-02-19 12:23:39 PM
He didn't refuse the money for the tunnels he made up a story that the tunnels were not needed and used the money for other stuff, because he didn't want to raise the gas tax.
 
2014-02-19 12:25:39 PM

groppet: Well whoever was in charge of the transportation there and told people they couldnt drive should be fired. And whoever bribed the NFL to have it there should be shot.


Time for some public transit problems at the Super Bowl?
 
2014-02-19 12:30:30 PM

wheatpennyandaglock: He didn't refuse the money for the tunnels he made up a story that the tunnels were not needed and used the money for other stuff, because he didn't want to raise the gas tax.


Interesting. Well, I guess that story got blowed up as well in the wake of the Super Bowl; though granted it's an extreme case where you host a Super Bowl and half the crowd takes the train in.

/I can see not wanting to raise the gas tax when you already pay a 20 cent premium in order to have flunkies pumping your gas for you
 
2014-02-19 12:36:43 PM

germ78: I can see not wanting to raise the gas tax when you already pay a 20 cent premium in order to have flunkies pumping your gas for you


Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, NJ: $3.321
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, NY: $3.684
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, DE: $3.441
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, PA: $3.588
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, US: $3.375

Tell me more about this "20-cent premium" that appears to lower prices from the national average (and surrounding states. I realize NY has other pressures keeping prices high, which is why I included each bordering state).

// source, data current as of 3am today
 
2014-02-19 12:38:56 PM

Dr Dreidel: germ78: I can see not wanting to raise the gas tax when you already pay a 20 cent premium in order to have flunkies pumping your gas for you

Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, NJ: $3.321
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, NY: $3.684
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, DE: $3.441
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, PA: $3.588
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, US: $3.375

Tell me more about this "20-cent premium" that appears to lower prices from the national average (and surrounding states. I realize NY has other pressures keeping prices high, which is why I included each bordering state).

// source, data current as of 3am today


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2014-02-19 12:41:48 PM
maybe if they let fans PARK at the stadium or take other forms of transportation, they wouldn't have these problems.
 
2014-02-19 12:43:30 PM

Dr Dreidel: germ78: I can see not wanting to raise the gas tax when you already pay a 20 cent premium in order to have flunkies pumping your gas for you

Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, NJ: $3.321
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, NY: $3.684
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, DE: $3.441
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, PA: $3.588
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, US: $3.375

Tell me more about this "20-cent premium" that appears to lower prices from the national average (and surrounding states. I realize NY has other pressures keeping prices high, which is why I included each bordering state).

// source, data current as of 3am today


Well, fark. I done been had. I was going off of my memories of driving through Jersey a few years ago and it always seemed like they had the most ridiculous gas prices in the Tri-State region.

/now it appears they can take a 5 cent increase in their gas tax in stride
 
2014-02-19 01:09:15 PM

germ78: Dr Dreidel: germ78: I can see not wanting to raise the gas tax when you already pay a 20 cent premium in order to have flunkies pumping your gas for you

Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, NJ: $3.321
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, NY: $3.684
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, DE: $3.441
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, PA: $3.588
Avg price for a gallon of regular unleaded, US: $3.375

Tell me more about this "20-cent premium" that appears to lower prices from the national average (and surrounding states. I realize NY has other pressures keeping prices high, which is why I included each bordering state).

// source, data current as of 3am today

Well, fark. I done been had. I was going off of my memories of driving through Jersey a few years ago and it always seemed like they had the most ridiculous gas prices in the Tri-State region.

/now it appears they can take a 5 cent increase in their gas tax in stride


We charge more to people on the TP with out of state plates.

NJ has cheap gas. NJ has refineries.
 
2014-02-19 01:27:54 PM

Mikey1969: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Wouldn't the NJ Transit Chief be the one in charge of something like that?

No, it was Christie, he was in charge of everything, and forever will be. Toothpaste has a funny taste? Light bulbs not lasting as long as advertised? Halloween candy going stale? Toilet ring not disappearing? It's Christie's fault.

While we're at it, my cell phone isn't holding a charge as long as it used to, and my Nook takes too long to refresh when I turn pages, I sure hope someone finds out why Christie did that.

They had an ass-brained transit scheme from the beginning. Remember, you couldn't take a cab to the game, couldn't take a limo, and you couldn't walk up to the gate, you cold either take a shuttle or the train/bus, how did they NOT expect people to ride transit? What a dumbass, guy deserves to be cleaning up dog poop in the city park.


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2014-02-19 01:35:19 PM
Heck of a job there, Weiny.
 
2014-02-19 01:52:41 PM

not2bright: Mikey1969: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Wouldn't the NJ Transit Chief be the one in charge of something like that?

No, it was Christie, he was in charge of everything, and forever will be. Toothpaste has a funny taste? Light bulbs not lasting as long as advertised? Halloween candy going stale? Toilet ring not disappearing? It's Christie's fault.

While we're at it, my cell phone isn't holding a charge as long as it used to, and my Nook takes too long to refresh when I turn pages, I sure hope someone finds out why Christie did that.

They had an ass-brained transit scheme from the beginning. Remember, you couldn't take a cab to the game, couldn't take a limo, and you couldn't walk up to the gate, you cold either take a shuttle or the train/bus, how did they NOT expect people to ride transit? What a dumbass, guy deserves to be cleaning up dog poop in the city park.

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LOL, yeah, I'm not white-knighting Christie, but this seems to be getting a bit ridiculous at this point. Maybe it's just subby?
 
2014-02-19 02:05:00 PM

germ78: Well, fark. I done been had. I was going off of my memories of driving through Jersey a few years ago and it always seemed like they had the most ridiculous gas prices in the Tri-State region.

/now it appears they can take a 5 cent increase in their gas tax in stride


No sweat. Born and raised in The Jerz (which is why I cared at all), and I still make the pilgrimage a few times a year (to visit people, mostly). Once I'm north of Baltimore, I won't stop for gas until NJ (unless it's a high-traffic time, like mid-afternoon on a Friday) - it's cheaper than MD (usually by about a dime/gal; which makes it a quarter/gal or more cheaper than DC) and LOL Delaware, and if the weather is shiatty, I can stay cool/warm/dry.

I would prefer if I was allowed to pump my own, such that I don't have to wait for the one guy running 6 pumps to finally make his way over to me if I don't want to; maybe hybrid self/full serve stations (didn't NJ used to have those, like in the 70s or something?). I'd also like it if I was allowed to multi-task - if Scooter's pumping my gas, why can't I head into the minimart for a Payday and an iced tea?
 
2014-02-19 02:28:10 PM
Is the head of NJ Transit a Democrat?
 
2014-02-19 03:45:20 PM

germ78: Remember when Christie refused Federal monies to build a mass transit tunnel under the Hudson River to help alleviate some of the congestion on transit lines between NJ and NYC? Good times, good times.

/though whether the tunnels would have been ready for the super bowl is another matter of debate
//still, at least it would have looked like he's trying to solve the transit problems in the area instead of ordering ill timed "studies"


Those tunnels wouldn't have affected traffic.

The Giants Stadium line is a spur line. To get to any of the mainline trains you need to connect, or at least have your train cruise on through, secaucus.

When you have 80,000 people all try and use a relatively small train station at the same time, and then connect at the same station, you will have issues. Its simple capacity. Anyone who thought that they would just stroll out of the stadium and hop on a train is an idiot.
 
2014-02-19 03:52:36 PM

Li'l Robbie: Is the head of NJ Transit a Democrat?


I'm fairly sure he isn't, considering he's been part of the administration of two separate Republican governors.
 
2014-02-19 03:53:45 PM

LineNoise: germ78: Remember when Christie refused Federal monies to build a mass transit tunnel under the Hudson River to help alleviate some of the congestion on transit lines between NJ and NYC? Good times, good times.

/though whether the tunnels would have been ready for the super bowl is another matter of debate
//still, at least it would have looked like he's trying to solve the transit problems in the area instead of ordering ill timed "studies"

Those tunnels wouldn't have affected traffic.

The Giants Stadium line is a spur line. To get to any of the mainline trains you need to connect, or at least have your train cruise on through, secaucus.

When you have 80,000 people all try and use a relatively small train station at the same time, and then connect at the same station, you will have issues. Its simple capacity. Anyone who thought that they would just stroll out of the stadium and hop on a train is an idiot.


Then they should have done phased boarding and departure times. Plus limited tickets so that single spur line and station wouldn't have been waaaay over capacity.
 
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