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(Contact Music)   China censor: "Ok, so what have we got here? House..of Cards season 2. Themes: angry Chinese businessman, cyber espionage...corruption. Well, I don't see any problems here. ACCEPTED"   (contactmusic.com ) divider line
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2014-02-19 10:11:42 AM  
I really liked the China businessman plot line, I keep liking the season more and more as I think about it.
 
2014-02-19 10:13:53 AM  
Just marathoned the second season because sleep is for the weak.

spoilers
spoilers
spoilers
SPOILERS FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON!!!!
NO, I AM NOT KIDDING! YOU ARE GOING TO BE SPOILED!!!

I know this show is a remake of a British series. (I tried watching it and couldn't finish the first episode. Actually fell asleep while watching.) But how much of this show is cribbing Shakespeare? Frank is not only Richard III but he and his wife are The Macbeths, through and through. In the first episode when Claire told that woman who was suing her that she would gladly let that woman's child wither and die within her womb to get what she wanted, it reminded me of Lady Macbeth telling her husband that to get what she wanted she would gladly take a suckling infant from her breast and bash his brains in. And with everyone in the grey and wiling to backstab each other left and right, who is going to be MacDuff and take Frank down?
 
2014-02-19 10:26:23 AM  
Funny, I downloaded a copy webripped off of Sohu.
 
2014-02-19 10:34:06 AM  

mekki: Just marathoned the second season because sleep is for the weak.

spoilers
spoilers
spoilers
SPOILERS FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON!!!!
NO, I AM NOT KIDDING! YOU ARE GOING TO BE SPOILED!!!
I know this show is a remake of a British series. (I tried watching it and couldn't finish the first episode. Actually fell asleep while watching.) But how much of this show is cribbing Shakespeare? Frank is not only Richard III but he and his wife are The Macbeths, through and through. In the first episode when Claire told that woman who was suing her that she would gladly let that woman's child wither and die within her womb to get what she wanted, it reminded me of Lady Macbeth telling her husband that to get what she wanted she would gladly take a suckling infant from her breast and bash his brains in. And with everyone in the grey and wiling to backstab each other left and right, who is going to be MacDuff and take Frank down?


Yes weakling, the show is by and large modeled after those Shakespeare elements, they've never been shy of it infact they've touted it as such as well. The UK version was that and so is the US version set in modern political climate. This is known.
 
mhd
2014-02-19 10:35:16 AM  
Chinese businessman? Did he hide behind the King of England?
 
2014-02-19 10:46:20 AM  
I feel bad for Freddy.
 
2014-02-19 10:49:17 AM  
Not really surprising.  The show doesn't really do much to characterize China other than to point out that their punishment for corruption is death.  If anything, they come out looking pretty good compared to the US government.
 
2014-02-19 10:58:13 AM  
Damnit I'm only 8 episodes in. This season is farking awesome so far. The introduction of that Chinese guy might be the only thing that needs censoring. Probably the most farked up intro of the series
 
2014-02-19 11:20:30 AM  
Greatest show of 2014 so far.  So deliciously slimy.  Also, the girl that plays Rachel haunts my dreams.
 
2014-02-19 11:31:26 AM  
The show is hard to watch.  There is almost no one to like.

That being said, the anti-hero is f'ing Lex Luthor?  We go from corrupt'ish congressman to Lex F'ing Luthor?  The show is well crafted and acted, but internally it's off the rails.
 
2014-02-19 11:42:35 AM  

BafflerMeal: The show is hard to watch.  There is almost no one to like.


This. Reminds me of 'Boss'. Loved that show, but everyone in it was a douchebag.
 
2014-02-19 12:12:06 PM  
I think the Chinese government is probably OK with an American produced series that portrays the entire US government, and all their friends and families, as colossal  and corrupt douchebags who could do the world a favor by talking a long walk off a short pier.
 
2014-02-19 12:12:28 PM  

BafflerMeal: The show is hard to watch.  There is almost no one to like.

That being said, the anti-hero is f'ing Lex Luthor?  We go from corrupt'ish congressman to Lex F'ing Luthor?  The show is well crafted and acted, but internally it's off the rails.


Nah...Spacey's character is no longer an anti-hero; after the first ep., he's a gottdamned criminal.
 
2014-02-19 12:42:17 PM  

Walt_Jizzney: he's a gottdamned criminal.


You will still be angry in the morning. You will use that anger, but not against him.
 
2014-02-19 01:52:34 PM  

BafflerMeal: There is almost no one to like.


rep blythe, the education guy
 
2014-02-19 02:03:05 PM  
House of Cards is a lot like Death Note with a villain protagonist. You watch because it's fun watching the bad guy steam roll everyone... but in the end, what you really really really want is for the villain to be built up enough for an epic fall.
 
2014-02-19 02:06:55 PM  

Walt_Jizzney: BafflerMeal: The show is hard to watch.  There is almost no one to like.

That being said, the anti-hero is f'ing Lex Luthor?  We go from corrupt'ish congressman to Lex F'ing Luthor?  The show is well crafted and acted, but internally it's off the rails.

Nah...Spacey's character is no longer an anti-hero; after the first ep., he's a gottdamned criminal.


SPOILERS

But he IS the anti-hero. You have to compare him to the others. By doing what he has done for the greater good, he has kept a billionaire businessman from having undue influence in the White House, sent a corrupt Chinese businessman to his doom, swept a weak President out of the Oval Office along with his egotistical Chief of Staff, taken down a legislator with clear addictive problems, done away with a reporter who would fight, fark, or steal to climb toward success, and all while getting bills and measures passed when others were unable to do so.

Just the situation with Tusk was enough reason for Frank to get the big chair. Tusk was corrupt and he was able to bend the President's will. That isn't going to happen, now. The balance of power shifted. It was Tusk calling the shots with a weak President who did him all sorts of favors out of "friendship", but now Frank's the Man, and Tusk will have to kiss Frank's ass to get things done, instead of dictating policy from behind the President's shoulder.

Was Frank brutal in his climb? Yes. But did anyone who died really have much to offer? Nope; A crooked politician who couldn't control his urges, and a mentally-screwed-up reporter who wasn't above manipulating and backstabbing to build her career. Not exactly saints.

And yes, the reporter dude who went to prison? He deserved it. He was a creep in the first season, and just because he was distraught over Zoe's death doesn't give him the right to commit an act of cyber-terrorism. He earned his prison term.

But you want someone to root for? Claire. She's altruistic, if not a bit brutal herself. She doesn't seek power in and of itself as much as she seeks the power to get things done.
 
2014-02-19 02:14:05 PM  

Nix Nightbird: Walt_Jizzney: BafflerMeal: The show is hard to watch.  There is almost no one to like.

That being said, the anti-hero is f'ing Lex Luthor?  We go from corrupt'ish congressman to Lex F'ing Luthor?  The show is well crafted and acted, but internally it's off the rails.

Nah...Spacey's character is no longer an anti-hero; after the first ep., he's a gottdamned criminal.

SPOILERS

But he IS the anti-hero. You have to compare him to the others. By doing what he has done for the greater good, he has kept a billionaire businessman from having undue influence in the White House, sent a corrupt Chinese businessman to his doom, swept a weak President out of the Oval Office along with his egotistical Chief of Staff, taken down a legislator with clear addictive problems, done away with a reporter who would fight, fark, or steal to climb toward success, and all while getting bills and measures passed when others were unable to do so.

Just the situation with Tusk was enough reason for Frank to get the big chair. Tusk was corrupt and he was able to bend the President's will. That isn't going to happen, now. The balance of power shifted. It was Tusk calling the shots with a weak President who did him all sorts of favors out of "friendship", but now Frank's the Man, and Tusk will have to kiss Frank's ass to get things done, instead of dictating policy from behind the President's shoulder.

Was Frank brutal in his climb? Yes. But did anyone who died really have much to offer? Nope; A crooked politician who couldn't control his urges, and a mentally-screwed-up reporter who wasn't above manipulating and backstabbing to build her career. Not exactly saints.

And yes, the reporter dude who went to prison? He deserved it. He was a creep in the first season, and just because he was distraught over Zoe's death doesn't give him the right to commit an act of cyber-terrorism. He earned his prison term.

But you want someone to root for? Claire. She's altruistic, if not a bit brutal herself. ...


spoilers below

Nice, I like this take, going to steal it as my original thoughts on the 2nd season and take all the credit while I push you in front of a train.

Spoilers above.
 
2014-02-19 02:18:29 PM  

BafflerMeal: The show is hard to watch.  There is almost no one to like.


Meechum?

/ifyouknowwhatimean *nudge nudge*
 
2014-02-19 02:29:27 PM  

Nix Nightbird: Walt_Jizzney: BafflerMeal: The show is hard to watch.  There is almost no one to like.

That being said, the anti-hero is f'ing Lex Luthor?  We go from corrupt'ish congressman to Lex F'ing Luthor?  The show is well crafted and acted, but internally it's off the rails.

Nah...Spacey's character is no longer an anti-hero; after the first ep., he's a gottdamned criminal.

SPOILERS

But he IS the anti-hero. You have to compare him to the others. By doing what he has done for the greater good, he has kept a billionaire businessman from having undue influence in the White House, sent a corrupt Chinese businessman to his doom, swept a weak President out of the Oval Office along with his egotistical Chief of Staff, taken down a legislator with clear addictive problems, done away with a reporter who would fight, fark, or steal to climb toward success, and all while getting bills and measures passed when others were unable to do so.

Just the situation with Tusk was enough reason for Frank to get the big chair. Tusk was corrupt and he was able to bend the President's will. That isn't going to happen, now. The balance of power shifted. It was Tusk calling the shots with a weak President who did him all sorts of favors out of "friendship", but now Frank's the Man, and Tusk will have to kiss Frank's ass to get things done, instead of dictating policy from behind the President's shoulder.

Was Frank brutal in his climb? Yes. But did anyone who died really have much to offer? Nope; A crooked politician who couldn't control his urges, and a mentally-screwed-up reporter who wasn't above manipulating and backstabbing to build her career. Not exactly saints.

And yes, the reporter dude who went to prison? He deserved it. He was a creep in the first season, and just because he was distraught over Zoe's death doesn't give him the right to commit an act of cyber-terrorism. He earned his prison term.

But you want someone to root for? Claire. She's altruistic, if not a bit brutal herself. She doesn't seek power in and of itself as much as she seeks the power to get things done.


I wonder how similar she and her British version will end up being ?
 
2014-02-19 02:41:38 PM  
USCLaw2010: Claire...

I wonder how similar she and her British version will end up being ?


I saw the first season of the UK version and she really didnt have a very big role in the series as compared to the US version. At this point I dont know if I want to see the rest of the 2 UK seasons as the plot lines are appearing to be very similar. Dont want to know what happens to some of the major characters in the US versions.
 
2014-02-19 05:29:07 PM  

Tannhauser: Greatest show of 2014 so far.  So deliciously slimy.  Also, the girl that plays Rachel haunts my dreams.


She reminds me of a slightly skanky version of Eva Green.
 
2014-02-19 05:53:54 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Tannhauser: Greatest show of 2014 so far.  So deliciously slimy.  Also, the girl that plays Rachel haunts my dreams.

She reminds me of a slightly skanky version of Eva Green.


As if Eva Green isn't slightly skanky herself?
 
2014-02-19 09:31:05 PM  
Could someone please explain the Hacker McPoyle subplot to me? I missed something there and really had no idea what was happening with that storyline, but I don't think it had any real bearing on the main story.

/Cashew for VP
 
2014-02-19 10:12:07 PM  

art_shamsky: Could someone please explain the Hacker McPoyle subplot to me? I missed something there and really had no idea what was happening with that storyline, but I don't think it had any real bearing on the main story.

/Cashew for VP



Spoilers below

The hacker with a sketchy past was working with the FBI trying to entrap the reporter. During this process he also installed some code that would infiltrate AT&T's network and give him leverage against the FBI. I'm assuming he and Rachel are going to be the only links to Underwood's shady past.

Spoilers above
 
2014-02-19 11:51:43 PM  

Nix Nightbird: Walt_Jizzney: BafflerMeal: The show is hard to watch.  There is almost no one to like.

That being said, the anti-hero is f'ing Lex Luthor?  We go from corrupt'ish congressman to Lex F'ing Luthor?  The show is well crafted and acted, but internally it's off the rails.

Nah...Spacey's character is no longer an anti-hero; after the first ep., he's a gottdamned criminal.

SPOILERS

But he IS the anti-hero. You have to compare him to the others. By doing what he has done for the greater good, he has kept a billionaire businessman from having undue influence in the White House, sent a corrupt Chinese businessman to his doom, swept a weak President out of the Oval Office along with his egotistical Chief of Staff, taken down a legislator with clear addictive problems, done away with a reporter who would fight, fark, or steal to climb toward success, and all while getting bills and measures passed when others were unable to do so.

Just the situation with Tusk was enough reason for Frank to get the big chair. Tusk was corrupt and he was able to bend the President's will. That isn't going to happen, now. The balance of power shifted. It was Tusk calling the shots with a weak President who did him all sorts of favors out of "friendship", but now Frank's the Man, and Tusk will have to kiss Frank's ass to get things done, instead of dictating policy from behind the President's shoulder.

Was Frank brutal in his climb? Yes. But did anyone who died really have much to offer? Nope; A crooked politician who couldn't control his urges, and a mentally-screwed-up reporter who wasn't above manipulating and backstabbing to build her career. Not exactly saints.

And yes, the reporter dude who went to prison? He deserved it. He was a creep in the first season, and just because he was distraught over Zoe's death doesn't give him the right to commit an act of cyber-terrorism. He earned his prison term.

But you want someone to root for? Claire. She's altruistic, if not a bit brutal herself. She doesn't seek power in and of itself as much as she seeks the power to get things done.


You might very well think that. I couldn't POSSIBLY comment.
 
2014-02-20 12:07:53 AM  

roflmaonow: art_shamsky: Could someone please explain the Hacker McPoyle subplot to me? I missed something there and really had no idea what was happening with that storyline, but I don't think it had any real bearing on the main story.

/Cashew for VP


Spoilers below

The hacker with a sketchy past was working with the FBI trying to entrap the reporter. During this process he also installed some code that would infiltrate AT&T's network and give him leverage against the FBI. I'm assuming he and Rachel are going to be the only links to Underwood's shady past.

Spoilers above


Spoilers, Speculations

Except didn't he say to the FBI agent in the car that he didn't install the code then, that he got access to AT&T on his own, not through the code he wrote for the reporter. I think the McPoyle story line is going to be big in the next season, too. He was relying on Stamper for some protection from the FBI and now... I imagine he'll meet the president at some point... a full pardon for silence? Sounds about right.

/someone save this for this time next year so I can gloat.
//and fark yeah, Cashew!
 
2014-02-20 12:45:26 AM  

Soon Right Away: roflmaonow: art_shamsky: Could someone please explain the Hacker McPoyle subplot to me? I missed something there and really had no idea what was happening with that storyline, but I don't think it had any real bearing on the main story.

/Cashew for VP


Spoilers below

The hacker with a sketchy past was working with the FBI trying to entrap the reporter. During this process he also installed some code that would infiltrate AT&T's network and give him leverage against the FBI. I'm assuming he and Rachel are going to be the only links to Underwood's shady past.

Spoilers above

Spoilers, Speculations

Except didn't he say to the FBI agent in the car that he didn't install the code then, that he got access to AT&T on his own, not through the code he wrote for the reporter. I think the McPoyle story line is going to be big in the next season, too. He was relying on Stamper for some protection from the FBI and now... I imagine he'll meet the president at some point... a full pardon for silence? Sounds about right.

/someone save this for this time next year so I can gloat.
//and fark yeah, Cashew!


Hmm I don't know, didnt he pull out info about the FBI agent's cheating wife while in the car thus demonstrating the installed code? Thats what I thought anyways.
 
2014-02-20 01:24:23 AM  

roflmaonow: Soon Right Away: roflmaonow: art_shamsky: Could someone please explain the Hacker McPoyle subplot to me? I missed something there and really had no idea what was happening with that storyline, but I don't think it had any real bearing on the main story.

/Cashew for VP


Spoilers below

The hacker with a sketchy past was working with the FBI trying to entrap the reporter. During this process he also installed some code that would infiltrate AT&T's network and give him leverage against the FBI. I'm assuming he and Rachel are going to be the only links to Underwood's shady past.

Spoilers above

Spoilers, Speculations

Except didn't he say to the FBI agent in the car that he didn't install the code then, that he got access to AT&T on his own, not through the code he wrote for the reporter. I think the McPoyle story line is going to be big in the next season, too. He was relying on Stamper for some protection from the FBI and now... I imagine he'll meet the president at some point... a full pardon for silence? Sounds about right.

/someone save this for this time next year so I can gloat.
//and fark yeah, Cashew!

Hmm I don't know, didnt he pull out info about the FBI agent's cheating wife while in the car thus demonstrating the installed code? Thats what I thought anyways.


Yeah, but I think he hacked in in another manner, not through that jump drive. He told the agent that the code killed itself immediately upon insertion, IIRC, so he got access through his own ingenuity, not because they let him in. He would have no reason to lie to the agent at that point. That point is why he definitely seems to me to be taking on a larger role in the next season--he's better, smarter than the biatch they've made him. That's the only reason I quibble--but I could be just making shiat up.
 
2014-02-20 01:28:05 AM  
So... Stamper. Dead or Alive?
 
2014-02-20 02:37:40 AM  
SPOILERS BELOW


Nix Nightbird: So... Stamper. Dead or Alive?


With this show? Worm food. It's not afraid to kill off characters that the audience thinks is important. See Russo and Barnes for examples.
 
2014-02-20 04:23:18 AM  

Nix Nightbird: So... Stamper. Dead or Alive?


We briefly saw him dead in the forest the next morning. He's gone.
 
2014-02-20 05:58:43 AM  
Spacey's character doesn't fill the "greater good" requirement for anti-hero. He's a simply a ridiculously pragmatic criminal. And I'm ok with that; the show never shows him worrying about the public.

In any case, its a badass show!
 
2014-02-20 07:42:59 AM  
Spoilers


Nix Nightbird:
So... Stamper. Dead or Alive?

I thought initially it was left open but I'm sure he's gone. He was hit in the head at night and the last shot they showed was him in the day. Doug was my fav secondary character, I also liked that they made Freddy more involved this season.
 
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