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2014-02-19 07:23:07 AM
Probably cause she kept the hose waggers from their very important duties, like polishing their shiny trucks or posing for homoerotic calendars.

-_^
 
2014-02-19 07:29:16 AM
Well, I'd say "I'll never go to McDonalds Again!!!" ....except I don't go there already, and not out of protest.

/except maybe protesting their shiatty food
//but their coffee is still damn good
 
2014-02-19 07:33:22 AM
Sounds like she got fired for being all biatchy at her boss
 
2014-02-19 07:39:10 AM

NickelP: Sounds like she got fired for being all biatchy at her boss


This. No McDonald's would be dumb enough to fire someone for paying for firefighters' food... Firefighters, police and the like *should* get at least a discount on their meals, but it should be up to the restaurants themselves. Coincidentally just as it is in this case.
 
2014-02-19 07:41:00 AM
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2014-02-19 07:41:03 AM

NickelP: Sounds like she got fired for being all biatchy at her boss


Sounds more like miscommunication. 

The firefighters were happy until they found out the girl had paid for her food, as a nice gesture, but they thought it had been the manager had forced the girl to pick up the bill and called to complain about that.

The manager and the owner seem like giant douchebags.
 
2014-02-19 07:41:27 AM
Don't fast food joints get some kind of tax break for turnover?  I heard somewhere that they go out of their way to make sure no one stays more than a year because they save money that way.  If so, all the manager needs is the most trivial excuse.
 
2014-02-19 07:43:21 AM
If she worked at Burger King she would have had it her way.
 
2014-02-19 07:44:49 AM
As a member of the military, I run into this sort of situation from time to time. Look, it's great and all that you appreciate my decision to do what I do but let me remind you it was my decision to do it. I get a good salary and a ton of bennies from Uncle Sam to do this sort of thing. Fire fighters are in a similar circumstance. Don't go all selling you ass on the street to give 10 guys a free $8 meal. They have cush union jobs and they know they got a good deal.
 
2014-02-19 07:45:27 AM

Dinobot: NickelP: Sounds like she got fired for being all biatchy at her boss

Sounds more like miscommunication. 

The firefighters were happy until they found out the girl had paid for her food, as a nice gesture, but they thought it had been the manager had forced the girl to pick up the bill and called to complain about that.

The manager and the owner seem like giant douchebags.


What probably went down was something like: she called her boss, asked if they had any policy in place. When told no, said it was farking/freaking ridiculous (he said she said, was probably part of the phone conversation), probably within earshot of the firefighters, who misinterpreted what happened and complained.

It was probably not up to the manager, more likely either the owner (if a small franchise) or HR (if a larger franchise). Either way, the firefighters probably reported the "freaking/farking ridiculous" comment on their complaint.
 
2014-02-19 07:48:37 AM
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Poor girl. She can't afford shampoo.
 
2014-02-19 07:48:56 AM

veale728: Dinobot: NickelP: Sounds like she got fired for being all biatchy at her boss

Sounds more like miscommunication. 

The firefighters were happy until they found out the girl had paid for her food, as a nice gesture, but they thought it had been the manager had forced the girl to pick up the bill and called to complain about that.

The manager and the owner seem like giant douchebags.

What probably went down was something like: she called her boss, asked if they had any policy in place. When told no, said it was farking/freaking ridiculous (he said she said, was probably part of the phone conversation), probably within earshot of the firefighters, who misinterpreted what happened and complained.

It was probably not up to the manager, more likely either the owner (if a small franchise) or HR (if a larger franchise). Either way, the firefighters probably reported the "freaking/farking ridiculous" comment on their complaint.


Can see that happening. You'd think they would suspend the girl for a day, rather than fire her -- due to the miscommunication. Instead, they got a PR problem.
 
2014-02-19 07:49:33 AM
Do what your boss says, or you're fired. Why do so many millions of people have such a problem accepting this simple concept? I'll never understand these people.
 
2014-02-19 07:51:38 AM

Harry Freakstorm: Poor girl. She can't afford shampoo.


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2014-02-19 07:51:51 AM
This seems to be a policy that varies by owner.

Remember, most McDs are franchises, and each owner can set their own rules.

This owner set the rule to be a douche.
 
2014-02-19 07:53:58 AM

Dinobot: veale728: Dinobot: NickelP: Sounds like she got fired for being all biatchy at her boss

Sounds more like miscommunication. 

The firefighters were happy until they found out the girl had paid for her food, as a nice gesture, but they thought it had been the manager had forced the girl to pick up the bill and called to complain about that.

The manager and the owner seem like giant douchebags.

What probably went down was something like: she called her boss, asked if they had any policy in place. When told no, said it was farking/freaking ridiculous (he said she said, was probably part of the phone conversation), probably within earshot of the firefighters, who misinterpreted what happened and complained.

It was probably not up to the manager, more likely either the owner (if a small franchise) or HR (if a larger franchise). Either way, the firefighters probably reported the "freaking/farking ridiculous" comment on their complaint.

Can see that happening. You'd think they would suspend the girl for a day, rather than fire her -- due to the miscommunication. Instead, they got a PR problem.


People who make $8/hr don't get "suspended". You get fired when you do something wrong, because there are tens of thousands waiting to take your place.
You've never worked in a QSR, eh?
 
2014-02-19 07:55:12 AM

Harry Freakstorm: [l2.yimg.com image 315x176]

Poor girl. She can't afford shampoo.


Taylor Swift 2019!
 
2014-02-19 07:57:15 AM
would be a pity if the manager's and owner's houses would just burn down...
 
2014-02-19 07:57:29 AM
I bet this incident got her a better job and a raise.
 
2014-02-19 07:58:12 AM

ransack.: Do what your boss says, or you're fired. Why do so many millions of people have such a problem accepting this simple concept? I'll never understand these people.


Because in most fields that's a shiatty way to run a successful business. Even in a very low-wage, manual labor type of job where you're not paying the worker for his advice or creativity, it costs money to hire new employees and train them to be as good as the fired employee, so it's dumb to fire someone for something trivial.

//Of course, we only have the newsworthy side of this argument. Based on the statement of the owner I'm guessing this lady has been trouble before.
 
2014-02-19 07:58:21 AM

veale728: Firefighters, police and the like *should* get at least a discount on their meals


Why?
 
2014-02-19 07:58:22 AM

danpanic77: As a member of the military, I run into this sort of situation from time to time. Look, it's great and all that you appreciate my decision to do what I do but let me remind you it was my decision to do it. I get a good salary and a ton of bennies from Uncle Sam to do this sort of thing. Fire fighters are in a similar circumstance. Don't go all selling you ass on the street to give 10 guys a free $8 meal. They have cush union jobs and they know they got a good deal.


Thanks for saying this. I say it all the time, but people just assume I'm an asshole because I decided NOT to be a soldier or firefighter or whatever.
 
2014-02-19 07:58:30 AM
Isn't there a federal employment law regarding food service workers putting their own personal money in the cash register while on the clock, or being asked to do so by a management person?

I seem to remember this being brought up in a few FARK threads on wages and tipping of waitstaff and casheers.
 
2014-02-19 07:59:16 AM

danpanic77: As a member of the military, I run into this sort of situation from time to time. Look, it's great and all that you appreciate my decision to do what I do but let me remind you it was my decision to do it. I get a good salary and a ton of bennies from Uncle Sam to do this sort of thing. Fire fighters are in a similar circumstance. Don't go all selling you ass on the street to give 10 guys a free $8 meal. They have cush union jobs and they know they got a good deal.


So much this.

We've had a lot of stories here about people buying meals for "heroes" who have better-paying, more secure jobs. People are nice, but morons.
 
2014-02-19 08:00:53 AM

hardinparamedic: Isn't there a federal employment law regarding food service workers putting their own personal money in the cash register while on the clock, or being asked to do so by a management person?

I seem to remember this being brought up in a few FARK threads on wages and tipping of waitstaff and casheers.


I don't think that would be the same thing here. They were buying food, not loaning cash for the cash drawer.
 
2014-02-19 08:01:41 AM

veale728: Firefighters, police and the like *should* get at least a discount on their meals,


If they choose to do so, fine. But it's a dick move to ask for a discount, and many departments outright prohibit you from doing so under their ethical guidelines, some even outright say to refuse a discount if you know it's being offered.

"Nice of them to do so". Not "Should"
 
2014-02-19 08:01:58 AM
you work two jobs and go to school full time just to eek get by? Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that.
 
2014-02-19 08:03:16 AM

veale728: NickelP: Sounds like she got fired for being all biatchy at her boss

This. No McDonald's would be dumb enough to fire someone for paying for firefighters' food... Firefighters, police and the like *should* get at least a discount on their meals, but it should be up to the restaurants themselves. Coincidentally just as it is in this case.


Why should they get a discount.  They chose their profession.
 
2014-02-19 08:03:42 AM

danpanic77: Fire fighters are in a similar circumstance. Don't go all selling you ass on the street to give 10 guys a free $8 meal. They have cush union jobs and they know they got a good deal.


I'm not trying to detract from what you're saying, but 76% of the US Fire Service is volunteer and unpaid for their services, especially outside the large urban areas. Many places will give discounts to vollies as long as they're on duty.
 
2014-02-19 08:04:01 AM
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I'd give her my McRib, but only for a limited time.
 
2014-02-19 08:06:12 AM
Yeah this seems like it's a fabrication or a really shiatty owner.  At the location that I worked at in high school a shift manager would comp anything less than $100 of food to firefighters after fighting a fire without even asking the store manager.  The fire departments around here are all volunteers too.
 
2014-02-19 08:06:20 AM
I work in law enforcement and am not allowed to take discounts or free food.
 
2014-02-19 08:08:29 AM

Egoy3k: Yeah this seems like it's a fabrication or a really shiatty owner.  At the location that I worked at in high school a shift manager would comp anything less than $100 of food to firefighters after fighting a fire without even asking the store manager.  The fire departments around here are all volunteers too.


Same where I used to volly at. The McDonald's was the only thing in the town that was open 24/7 for years, and if we were out on a search or long fire, the owner would actually bring food out to the scene for us.
 
2014-02-19 08:09:10 AM

JSam21: I work in law enforcement and am not allowed to take discounts or free food.


I used to work at a Subway restaurant owned by a local police officer, and our policy was to give 50% discount to local police officers (uniformed or not), and 25% discount to firefighters and employees or direct family members of employees
 
2014-02-19 08:09:38 AM
This is right down the road from me.

If it's a story from around here it either involves

-drilling
-mcdonalds
-walmart
-the incredibly high unemployment

/because those things are all this region has left
 
2014-02-19 08:10:59 AM

tungub: danpanic77: As a member of the military, I run into this sort of situation from time to time. Look, it's great and all that you appreciate my decision to do what I do but let me remind you it was my decision to do it. I get a good salary and a ton of bennies from Uncle Sam to do this sort of thing. Fire fighters are in a similar circumstance. Don't go all selling you ass on the street to give 10 guys a free $8 meal. They have cush union jobs and they know they got a good deal.

Thanks for saying this. I say it all the time, but people just assume I'm an asshole because I decided NOT to be a soldier or firefighter or whatever.


You're not? Boy, what an asshole.

/I keed! I keed!
 
2014-02-19 08:12:05 AM
I work for the IRS and one time Ms. Pascal tried to give me a box of cookies.  I offered to purchase them, but she got hurt.

She was trying to be nice, and I totally blew it.
 
2014-02-19 08:12:31 AM

JSam21: I work in law enforcement and am not allowed to take discounts or free food.


I knew a cop once that told me there were certain places cops always ate because they were cop friendly and knew the food was safe.

/hope someone sees the story and offers this lady another job
//not a fast food job
 
2014-02-19 08:13:01 AM
I don't know whether or not I would have fired her.  That would depend on a much larger set of factors; how she has performed in the past, what is her attendance record like, etc..  That said, I would not have been happy with her as an employer.  My main beef, and it is certainly an offence worthy of firing is the insubordination involved.  First she asked her boss if the company would cover it.  He said "no."  That should have been the end of it.  Instead she called up "corporate" and asked them.  If I were her boss firing her certainly would be an option at that point.
 
2014-02-19 08:13:04 AM

ransack.: Do what your boss says, or you're fired. ... I'll never understand these people.


The reason you can't understand is the same reason you'd make a shiatty manager.
 
2014-02-19 08:13:30 AM
Just one more reason not to eat there
 
2014-02-19 08:13:35 AM

Fear the Clam: danpanic77: As a member of the military, I run into this sort of situation from time to time. Look, it's great and all that you appreciate my decision to do what I do but let me remind you it was my decision to do it. I get a good salary and a ton of bennies from Uncle Sam to do this sort of thing. Fire fighters are in a similar circumstance. Don't go all selling you ass on the street to give 10 guys a free $8 meal. They have cush union jobs and they know they got a good deal.

So much this.

We've had a lot of stories here about people buying meals for "heroes" who have better-paying, more secure jobs. People are nice, but morons.


Maybe- just maybe- it's not about the money.

Ever think about that, Captain Flapjack?
 
2014-02-19 08:14:37 AM

buntz: I work for the IRS and one time Ms. Pascal tried to give me a box of cookies.  I offered to purchase them, but she got hurt.

She was trying to be nice, and I totally blew it.


Dad?
 
2014-02-19 08:15:22 AM
".  .   .  since they regularly gave free meals to police officers. "

Don't know about there but here, thats a fairly big problem usually followed by a loss of job.

We didn't take the Lobster

or the Gasoline

or the Prostitutes

We didn't take the Lobster


to the tune of Billy Joels "We Didn't Start the Fire"
 
2014-02-19 08:19:18 AM

ransack.: Do what your boss says, or you're fired. Why do so many millions of people have such a problem accepting this simple concept? I'll never understand these people.


RTFA or STFU... why do people have such a problem with this simple concept? I'll never understand these people.


/:)
 
2014-02-19 08:19:35 AM

Ima4nic8or: I don't know whether or not I would have fired her.  That would depend on a much larger set of factors; how she has performed in the past, what is her attendance record like, etc..  That said, I would not have been happy with her as an employer.  My main beef, and it is certainly an offence worthy of firing is the insubordination involved.  First she asked her boss if the company would cover it.  He said "no."  That should have been the end of it.  Instead she called up "corporate" and asked them.  If I were her boss firing her certainly would be an option at that point.


The article says she worked there for 8 years so probably a good employee otherwise, if your management style is to fire someone for taking some initiative you might just work for a large company. So what if her manager said no, this specific store would not cover the cost so she checked to see if McDonalds corporate office wanted some good pr by covering the cost. God knows after paying their employees slave wages they could use some good pr.
 
2014-02-19 08:20:14 AM
This is an outrage. Firefighters can't afford to eat at fancy places like Mcdonalds. Their meals should be free. And lawyers should have to pay double! And Justin Bieber shouldn't even be allowed on the premises!!! Mcdonalds dollar menu is just a tax on people who are bad at math. Where were these teachers when I was in high school? I want my country back.
 
2014-02-19 08:20:46 AM

dukeblue219: ransack.: Do what your boss says, or you're fired. Why do so many millions of people have such a problem accepting this simple concept? I'll never understand these people.

Because in most fields that's a shiatty way to run a successful business. Even in a very low-wage, manual labor type of job where you're not paying the worker for his advice or creativity, it costs money to hire new employees and train them to be as good as the fired employee, so it's dumb to fire someone for something trivial.

//Of course, we only have the newsworthy side of this argument. Based on the statement of the owner I'm guessing this lady has been trouble before.


yeah, that is why he kept her around for 8yrs... because they like trouble.
 
2014-02-19 08:21:40 AM

Headso: you work two jobs and go to school full time just to eek get by? Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that.


"Uniquely" American?

Couple of ways I can answer that. (1) Yes: it *is* uniquely American to work your ass off to better your place in life, and not be "content with your station.". (2) Yes, it sucks hard that the US economy is structured so that a young parent has to work two jobs and go to school to have any real hope for her family's future. (3) "Uniquely" American? Not for long, buddy; the rest of the world is falling in line with this insanity and it'll be your turn soon, if it isn't already.

Take your pick. They're all true.
 
2014-02-19 08:21:43 AM

hardinparamedic: Isn't there a federal employment law regarding food service workers putting their own personal money in the cash register while on the clock, or being asked to do so by a management person?

I seem to remember this being brought up in a few FARK threads on wages and tipping of waitstaff and casheers.


doesn't matter if another cashier rings up the order or handles the money.
 
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