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2014-02-18 11:00:40 PM  
Is there any reason killing the ones who are wrecking someone's vehicle would be wrong? It seems to uphold the social contract.

/difficulty: don't bother answering if you yourself were a vandalizing piece of shiat when you were younger
//double difficulty: research the etymology of the word 'vandal'
///they used to hang horse thieves for a reason
 
2014-02-18 11:01:06 PM  
Jesus Christ, "Willie" and "Adrian"?! Where do they come up with these names??
 
2014-02-18 11:01:34 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: In the news release, police noted that Noble did not call police before or after the shooting.

Before?  Yeah, they would have laughed in his face, if they didn't charge him with tying up the 911 line or some such.

Assuming he actually did what they say he did...

Noble is charged with first-degree murder,

Maybe.

five counts of aggravated assault

Definitely.

and committing a terroristic act.

Oh for Fark's sake.


There is absolutely no meaning left in that word. Might as well have said a Smurfy act.
 
pla
2014-02-18 11:05:44 PM  
Mistake #1:

Always, always, always shoot to kill.  Then they call you a hero for defending your home and family, instead of finding yourself "charged with first-degree murder, five counts of aggravated assault and committing a terroristic act".

Terroristic act.  Wow.  Al Qaeda has won by such a huge margin it hurts.  Congrats, we've given Osama a victory worth dying for.
 
2014-02-18 11:06:45 PM  
MechaPyx:

Yeah but you get a description/license plate number and let the cops deal with it.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA .... HAHAHAHA ... whew ... good one.
 
2014-02-18 11:10:34 PM  

Cpl.D: TwowheelinTim: SuperNinjaToad: The ONLY conceivable out I'll give him is if he somehow shot in the air and the bullet just came down and killed the girl. Even then it's still 50/50.

You did not read the part that described the side of the car riddled with bullet holes? Unless I'm mistaken, a bullet fired up in the air would most likely hit the top of the car if it even hit it at all, which in itself is highly unlikely.

In other words; you know how I know you didn't bother to read the article before you decided to grace us with your poorly thought out comment?

You think posting before reading the article is the exception here on Fark?


Not in the least. I just thought I would use it as an opportunity to point out how weak the comment was.

If it was a troll, I'd give it 2/10 even though I still bit.
 
2014-02-18 11:10:53 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Well, I guess at least one of them is scared to death now


Done in two.
 
2014-02-18 11:11:01 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: TuteTibiImperes: No one is trying to make it a racial issue.  It's just a 'dumbass who shouldn't have owned a gun' story.

That's the point. They never are. But they're MADE racial issues by the hucksters and race-baiters who can profit off of sowing division. If Zimmerman was black, we'd have never ever heard of him.

If this moron was white it would be all anybody was talking about for a year. Meanwhile, the far far far far far more common black on white murders are NEVER a "racial issue" even when they unequivocally are.

Funny thing, that.


How many of those 'Black on white' murders end up with the perpetrator caught, then let go with a slap on the wrist?
 
2014-02-18 11:11:26 PM  

Primum non nocere: If Obama had a cousin, he'd look like Willie Noble . . . wait . . .

/ It's_time_to_stop_posting.jpg


you, sir, win all the internets ... everywhere.
 
2014-02-18 11:12:02 PM  
TuteTibiImperes:  He laid in wait for some kids who TPed his car and then shot at them.


How, exactly do you NOT "lay in wait" when the scene of the original crime is your house?  Was he supposed to check into a motel or something?
 
2014-02-18 11:12:03 PM  
That's why I propose a federal law requiring everyone older then 6 to wear an armored vest and combat helmet. Come on people! It's the American way!!!!
 
2014-02-18 11:12:12 PM  

ultraholland: black people fire warning shots like THIS


Is the gun in your hand, which is now palm down? If so, carry on, gangsta.
 
2014-02-18 11:12:13 PM  

hardinparamedic: Secret Master of All Flatulence: OTOH, if the reason he fired his sidearm was because he was concerned about his personal safety and the safety of the rest of his family, that's entirely a different beast.

He shot into a car that was moving away from him.

Absolutely no justification for that. No matter what Call of Counter-strike 4 tells you


If they're shooting back I'll allow it. Give all the jury instructions you want.

That said, clearly they weren't shooting back. They couldn't. This was murder 1.
 
2014-02-18 11:13:02 PM  

morg: Benevolent Misanthrope: In the news release, police noted that Noble did not call police before or after the shooting.

Before?  Yeah, they would have laughed in his face, if they didn't charge him with tying up the 911 line or some such.

Assuming he actually did what they say he did...

Noble is charged with first-degree murder,

Maybe.

five counts of aggravated assault

Definitely.

and committing a terroristic act.

Oh for Fark's sake.

There is absolutely no meaning left in that word. Might as well have said a Smurfy act.


IIRC, the word you are referring to does not mean what you think it means in legal context, and has been in use in the form its being used here for quite some time.  However, IANAL.
 
2014-02-18 11:14:34 PM  
content7.flixster.com

/hot as Nuke
 
2014-02-18 11:16:14 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: In the news release, police noted that Noble did not call police before or after the shooting.

Before?  Yeah, they would have laughed in his face, if they didn't charge him with tying up the 911 line or some such.

Assuming he actually did what they say he did...

Noble is charged with first-degree murder,

Maybe.

five counts of aggravated assault

Definitely.

and committing a terroristic act.

Oh for Fark's sake.


A guy ripped one in a meeting the other day. It was bad, smelly and offensive. I assume He will be charged with a terroristic threat, an act of terrorism, aiding terrorists, or terroristic terrorizing.

In reality he should be reprimanded or slapped and shunned.
 
2014-02-18 11:16:46 PM  

hardinparamedic: Secret Master of All Flatulence: OTOH, if the reason he fired his sidearm was because he was concerned about his personal safety and the safety of the rest of his family, that's entirely a different beast.

He shot into a car that was moving away from him.

Absolutely no justification for that. No matter what Call of Counter-strike 4 tells you


Um, are you sure about that?  After all, I don't think that even the prosecution is contesting that the vehicle was returning to the scene of the original crime when it got shot up.  The vandals left the scene, which was the shooter's house.  The vandals then RETURNED to the shooter's house.  Once they got shot at, they then left the scene. I'm sure that the shooter's defense team will go with the "I didn't know why they were coming back, they'd already broken the law, and I reasonably didn't know what their intent was, except to say that it was probably to commit another crime."
 
2014-02-18 11:16:56 PM  

Secret Master of All Flatulence: TuteTibiImperes:  He laid in wait for some kids who TPed his car and then shot at them.


How, exactly do you NOT "lay in wait" when the scene of the original crime is your house?  Was he supposed to check into a motel or something?


FTFA: "Mr. Noble stated that he waited inside because he knew whoever vandalized his vehicle was going to come back. Mr. Noble stated that once they returned (about 45 minutes later), he fired his handgun to scare them"

Well, he outright admitted that he wasn't just hanging out at his house, he was expecting them to come back, and expecting to shoot.

If I was in fear of my life from someone that I thought would be coming to my house I know I'd call the police to have them sit a car out front, or call the police and then go check in to a hotel for the night, but that's just me.

He was anticipating an altercation, and he got it.
 
2014-02-18 11:17:31 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: LordJiro: How many of those 'Black on white' murders end up with the perpetrator caught, then let go with a slap on the wrist?

About the same number where the white person was beating up or otherwise engaging the black guy in anyway whatsoever before they were killed. Which is to say none of them. Any other questions?


So self-defense is OK for white people, but black people defending themselves against an armed stalker means they deserve to get shot. Got it.
 
2014-02-18 11:18:25 PM  

hardinparamedic: How many FARKers will defend this guys action, I wonder?


Just the ones trolling you.
 
2014-02-18 11:19:01 PM  

morg: Benevolent Misanthrope: In the news release, police noted that Noble did not call police before or after the shooting.

Before?  Yeah, they would have laughed in his face, if they didn't charge him with tying up the 911 line or some such.

Assuming he actually did what they say he did...

Noble is charged with first-degree murder,

Maybe.

five counts of aggravated assault

Definitely.

and committing a terroristic act.

Oh for Fark's sake.

There is absolutely no meaning left in that word. Might as well have said a Smurfy act.


Heh. Smurphy. Yeah, say that ten thousand times aloud, and only then it may have a similar impact as turristic.

Scaredy cats we all are. Running from and shoosting at our own shadows. WTF is it all coming to?

Oh yeah, I laughed quite heartily at you comment. Thanks for that.
 
2014-02-18 11:20:19 PM  
TuteTibiImperes:

FTFA: "Mr. Noble stated that he waited inside because he knew whoever vandalized his vehicle was going to come back. Mr. Noble stated that once they returned (about 45 minutes later), he fired his handgun to scare them"

Well, he outright admitted that he wasn't just hanging out at his house, he was expecting them to come back, and expecting to shoot.

If I was in fear of my life from someone that I thought would be coming to my house I know I'd call the police to have them sit a car out front, or call the police and then go check in to a hotel for the night, but that's just me.

He was anticipating an altercation, and he got it.


You have obviously tried this with positive results .... /sarcasm.
 
2014-02-18 11:21:42 PM  
It's OK, you piece of trash.  They'll just set the electric chair to "annoy".
 
2014-02-18 11:26:04 PM  

bunner: It's OK, you piece of trash.  They'll just set the electric chair to "annoy".


So like this:

www.stepbystep.com
and probation and duder is good?
 
2014-02-18 11:26:13 PM  

proteus_b: damn that racist son of a biatch, anyone who shoots black people is racist and this guy is no exception. it's not possible that he's just a moron, nope, he's definitely a racist!


You sound angry. Maybe you should take a nap or have a fap or be more hap but please don't bust a cap.
 
2014-02-18 11:29:07 PM  

UrinalPooper: Is there any reason killing the ones who are wrecking someone's vehicle would be wrong? It seems to uphold the social contract.

/difficulty: don't bother answering if you yourself were a vandalizing piece of shiat when you were younger
//double difficulty: research the etymology of the word 'vandal'
///they used to hang horse thieves for a reason


This is really funny coming from someone with your handle.
 
2014-02-18 11:29:13 PM  

hardinparamedic: Well, the genus just confessed to making a terroristic threat and intent to murder the occupants of the vehicle.

Brilliant.

Voiceofreason01: Which is EXACTLY why firing warning shots is a felony.

THIS.

How many FARKers will defend this guys action, I wonder?


None, because Farkers understand warning shots = stupid. Just like we understand that hardinparamedic = stupid not to mention a pathetic little partisan stooge.
 
2014-02-18 11:38:09 PM  
If only a responsible gun owner had been present, this whole ordeal could have been avoided!

/ducks
 
2014-02-18 11:39:15 PM  
Judging by Fark's ability to fairly evaluate a story where guns are involved, I am inclined to believe this guy was 100% innocent and those kids got what was coming to them.
 
2014-02-18 11:39:24 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: Relax everybody, the shooter was also black, so you can go back to not giving a shiat about a black kid getting shot. This isn't another Zimmerman case as much as you and Sharpton and Jackson and Toure' and Piers Morgan were all hoping it was going to be when you clicked on the link.

Save your outrage for when he's convicted, and you can moan and cry about how the "system is racist."

Speaking of which, how dare any of you criticize him now! Don't you know saying anything bad about somebody who's black is automatically racist now?

FREE WILLIE NOW!!!


6/10-

Pros- oaky bouquet of obvious topic, fruity Sharpton reference, and using poor grammar and climatic Free Wllie finish

Cons- olifavtory hints of desperation, watery side of Zimmerman, and greasy notes of butthurt.

Your whine is worth a sale purchase but DIA is a much stronger gun nut troll. Try to age your next one better.
 
2014-02-18 11:45:15 PM  

SCUBA_Archer: Judging by Fark's ability to fairly evaluate a story where guns are involved, I am inclined to believe this guy was 100% innocent and those kids got what was coming to them.


Or alternatively, the kids were 100% innocent in all respects, and the guy hunted them down at the Disneyesque meadow where they were frolicking with the little animals and shot them with a belt-loading 50-cal. machine gun mounted in the bed of his armored vehicle.
 
2014-02-18 11:49:23 PM  

MFAWG: hardinparamedic: Well, the genus just confessed to making a terroristic threat and intent to murder the occupants of the vehicle.

Brilliant.

Voiceofreason01: Which is EXACTLY why firing warning shots is a felony.

THIS.

How many FARKers will defend this guys action, I wonder?

He and the victims are not of the Caucasian Persuasion, so my guess is zero.


clearlycaneda.files.wordpress.com

There is nothing here to defend. The man did something incredibly stupid and irresponsible, and deserves to be punished for it. End of story. Race has nothing to do with it, no matter how badly you want it to. The man murdered someone, either intentionally or unintentionally (depending on the story), and he will, rightly so, face the consequences of his actions. There is no reasonable or logical defense for his actions, regardless of the color of his skin.

But hey, don't bring anything meaningful to the conversation. Just drop the race card and flee. That's always a winning move.
 
2014-02-18 11:49:28 PM  
The guy had an good idea of where they would be, waited for them, then shot at them?

That sounds like a slam dunk for a 1st degree.
 
2014-02-18 11:51:17 PM  

Lcpl_Dunno: bunner: It's OK, you piece of trash.  They'll just set the electric chair to "annoy".

So like this:

[www.stepbystep.com image 400x400]
and probation and duder is good?


This would work.
i00.i.aliimg.com
 
2014-02-18 11:52:06 PM  

mod3072: There is nothing here to defend. The man did something incredibly stupid and irresponsible, and deserves to be punished for it. End of story. Race has nothing to do with it, no matter how badly you want it to. The man murdered someone, either intentionally or unintentionally (depending on the story), and he will, rightly so, face the consequences of his actions. There is no reasonable or logical defense for his actions, regardless of the color of his skin.

But hey, don't bring anything meaningful to the conversation. Just drop the race card and flee. That's always a winning move.


... and this.

But it's handy when they do it so I can make a mental note of who all the farktards are.
 
2014-02-18 11:53:08 PM  

bunner: Lcpl_Dunno: bunner: It's OK, you piece of trash.  They'll just set the electric chair to "annoy".

So like this:

[www.stepbystep.com image 400x400]
and probation and duder is good?

This would work.
[i00.i.aliimg.com image 600x473]


If I were a betting man, I'd wager that they're trying to scare him with as many charges as they can (not that they're not justified) but will let him plea down to 2nd degree murder and have a chance at parole down the road if he takes it.
 
2014-02-18 11:55:58 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: If I were a betting man, I'd wager that they're trying to scare him with as many charges as they can (not that they're not justified) but will let him plea down to 2nd degree murder and have a chance at parole down the road if he takes it.


Which is just one more reason, along with homicidal cops and billionaire thief banksters, to lift our collective legs and piss on our broken justice system.
 
2014-02-18 11:59:58 PM  

DigitalCoffee: "Mr. Noble stated that he waited inside because he knew whoever vandalized his vehicle was going to come back. Mr. Noble stated that once they returned (about 45 minutes later), he fired his handgun to scare them," according to the statement released by police Tuesday.

He lay in wait with a loaded weapon and then fired at them upon their return. THAT is premeditation. He's going to end up having to narfle the garthunk on this one.


Is that anything like com-shuck with the Groosalugg?
 
2014-02-19 12:02:28 AM  

ElLoco: The guy had an good idea of where they would be, waited for them, then shot at them?

That sounds like a slam dunk for a 1st degree.


His own house appearently.


I'm begining to see his side of the story.
 
2014-02-19 12:05:38 AM  

bunner: TuteTibiImperes: If I were a betting man, I'd wager that they're trying to scare him with as many charges as they can (not that they're not justified) but will let him plea down to 2nd degree murder and have a chance at parole down the road if he takes it.

Which is just one more reason, along with homicidal cops and billionaire thief banksters, to lift our collective legs and piss on our broken justice system.


This...

is why you're a favorite.
 
2014-02-19 12:08:55 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: bunner: Lcpl_Dunno: bunner: It's OK, you piece of trash.  They'll just set the electric chair to "annoy".

So like this:

[www.stepbystep.com image 400x400]
and probation and duder is good?

This would work.
[i00.i.aliimg.com image 600x473]

If I were a betting man, I'd wager that they're trying to scare him with as many charges as they can (not that they're not justified) but will let him plea down to 2nd degree murder and have a chance at parole down the road if he takes it.


s2.quickmeme.com
 
2014-02-19 12:15:59 AM  
Wonder if Gregg Jarrett will defend the shooter as in the Michael Dunn case.
 
2014-02-19 12:31:24 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Benevolent Misanthrope: By that definition, M. Night Shyamalan should be in prison for farking life.

Well, I was being bit sarcastic, but technically speaking...

/Shyamalan? Scary?
//Personally I think he'd have lifetime immunity from prosecution


I can't ever speak bad of Shyamalan... my sister worked on Unbreakable and Signs before she moved to the west coast and those movies went a long way to getting her into the DGA.

fun fact: My niece was a body double for the little girl in Signs. In the scene early in the movie when Mel Gibsonn and Juaquin Phoenix are walking through the corn to see the first crop circle 'sign'... Juaquin is holding the little girl (my niece) as they break into the crop circle and the girls face is burried in his shoulder, obscured from the camera, and she turns her head briefly, showing barely a profile as Juaquin puts his hand to her head and push her back to his shoulder... that's my niece!
 
2014-02-19 12:40:16 AM  

Lcpl_Dunno: MechaPyx:

Yeah but you get a description/license plate number and let the cops deal with it.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA .... HAHAHAHA ... whew ... good one.


They're kids TP'ing your stuff(in a middle class neighborhood).

What would you suggest? Going all Rambo on them like this guy did?
 
2014-02-19 12:50:24 AM  

theknuckler_33: fun fact: My niece was a body double for the little girl in Signs. In the scene early in the movie when Mel Gibsonn and Juaquin Phoenix are walking through the corn to see the first crop circle 'sign'... Juaquin is holding the little girl (my niece) as they break into the crop circle and the girls face is burried in his shoulder, obscured from the camera, and she turns her head briefly, showing barely a profile as Juaquin puts his hand to her head and push her back to his shoulder... that's my niece!


Thank you for putting context to my masturbations.
 
2014-02-19 12:54:42 AM  
Oh, so you should go to jail, asshole? Great to hear you agree.

/DO NOT POINT THE GUN AT ANYTHING YOU DO NOT INTEND TO DESTROY
 
2014-02-19 12:59:25 AM  
Repeat after me, kids.

Never point a gun at something your are not prepared to kill.
 
2014-02-19 01:19:44 AM  
Has anyone mentioned yet that warning shots are bullshiat? Because I think that bears repeating.

/don't take the gun out of its holster if you aren't going to use it
//don't put your finger on the trigger unless you're going to shoot
///don't shoot at anyone for any reason other than to kill them
 
2014-02-19 01:24:12 AM  

CommonName2: Also, how could he try to scare them (the terrorism part) AND plan to kill them? Isn't that an "either-or" situation?


So you're saying that if a terrorist sets off a bomb and the bomb kills people, it isn't terrorism because he killed them instead of just scaring them?


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
/farking logic.  How does it work?
 
2014-02-19 01:36:39 AM  

AirForceVet: As a former kid who egged some houses, killing the eggers isn't the answer. Just catch them and get them to clean up the house.


One of my dad's sailing buddies was a high school principal, a Mormon with a scad of teenage kids in varsity sports, he has a number of stories. I suppose it's good he's safely retired.

\Ah got eggs too.
\\And the hose.
\\\Piss me off I'll call your parents at 3am
 
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