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2014-02-18 09:52:08 PM  

pissnmoan: Now, ya'll know, if this guy was white and could afford a good attorney, he would have a fair chance of walking away a free man.

He wouldn't have made incriminating statements but would have felt threatened in some way and would be busy establishing his victimization qualifications.  The good people of Arkansas would likely have supplied him with an application for a bronze statue in the town square for his good citizenship.

This guy is probably guilty as hell and deserves what he gets.  And, we pretty much know the situation would be much different if he was white.


3/10 - started strong, but then, you were pushing too hard with the bronze statue, and finished up by repeating yourself.
 
2014-02-18 09:52:42 PM  

mooseyfate: Beeblebrox: You don't fark with another man's ride.

They were leaves. If wind can solve the problem, Maybe gunplay isn't the right option.


Is dissapoint with you.

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2014-02-18 09:52:57 PM  
damn that racist son of a biatch, anyone who shoots black people is racist and this guy is no exception. it's not possible that he's just a moron, nope, he's definitely a racist!
 
2014-02-18 09:53:30 PM  

pissnmoan: Now, ya'll know, if this guy was white and could afford a good attorney, he would have a fair chance of walking away a free man.

He wouldn't have made incriminating statements but would have felt threatened in some way and would be busy establishing his victimization qualifications.  The good people of Arkansas would likely have supplied him with an application for a bronze statue in the town square for his good citizenship.

This guy is probably guilty as hell and deserves what he gets.  And, we pretty much know the situation would be much different if he was white.


Not all Arkansans are racist assholes
 
2014-02-18 09:54:32 PM  
This will never show up on CNN or Nancy Grace, and you know why.  Dunn convicted
 
2014-02-18 09:57:41 PM  
Wow, he really IS as dumb as he looks.
 
2014-02-18 09:59:29 PM  

DigitalCoffee: "Mr. Noble stated that he waited inside because he knew whoever vandalized his vehicle was going to come back. Mr. Noble stated that once they returned (about 45 minutes later), he fired his handgun to scare them," according to the statement released by police Tuesday.


He lay in wait with a loaded weapon and then fired at them upon their return. THAT is premeditation. He's going to end up having to narfle the garthunk on this one.


Yeah he's farked. Where's his lawyer during all this advising him to keep his mouth shut? Cause he should totally do that.
 
2014-02-18 09:59:52 PM  
Sounds like it worked.
 
2014-02-18 10:02:54 PM  

mooseyfate: CommonName2: Make a victim feel helpless and they will eventually resort to vigilantism. Would this have happened if he felt the system would handle the crimes against him?

Also, how could he try to scare them (the terrorism part) AND plan to kill them? Isn't that an "either-or" situation?

Yay...it's "That Guy". Glad you could make it.


Sorry, I should keep to one-step solutions. Considering complex root issues would eat into Kardashian time.

Obviously it was an over-reaction, but why did it happen? It doesn't matter, just easier to deal with the results.
 
2014-02-18 10:02:59 PM  

hardinparamedic: Well, the genus just confessed to making a terroristic threat and intent to murder the occupants of the vehicle.

Brilliant.

Voiceofreason01: Which is EXACTLY why firing warning shots is a felony.

THIS.

How many FARKers will defend this guys action, I wonder?


Hah, he's black. Good luck.
 
2014-02-18 10:04:38 PM  

Cpl.D: rkiller1: This will never show up on CNN or Nancy Grace, and you know why.  Dunn convicted

Isn't she the ex-prosecutor, who really should have known better, immediately declared the Duke Lacrosse boys guilty, and then didn't apologize later when it turned out they were innocent?


Prosocuters are the worst. They convict innocent people through plea deals and pressure, then congratulate themselves on a job well done. Evil, evil folken.
 
2014-02-18 10:05:40 PM  

Cpl.D: rkiller1: This will never show up on CNN or Nancy Grace, and you know why.  Dunn convicted

Isn't she the ex-prosecutor, who really should have known better, immediately declared the Duke Lacrosse boys guilty, and then didn't apologize later when it turned out they were innocent?


I think so, just like these 88 knuckleheads: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_88
 
2014-02-18 10:05:40 PM  

hardinparamedic: Well, the genus just confessed to making a terroristic threat and intent to murder the occupants of the vehicle.

Brilliant.

Voiceofreason01: Which is EXACTLY why firing warning shots is a felony.

THIS.

How many FARKers will defend this guys action, I wonder?


He and the victims are not of the Caucasian Persuasion, so my guess is zero.
 
2014-02-18 10:10:47 PM  

hardinparamedic: Well, the genus just confessed to making a terroristic threat and intent to murder the occupants of the vehicle.

Brilliant.

Voiceofreason01: Which is EXACTLY why firing warning shots is a felony.

THIS.

How many FARKers will defend this guys action, I wonder?


Probably none.

This guy set up an ambush and opened fire at a car full of teenagers. That's called murder 1.
 
2014-02-18 10:11:27 PM  

MFAWG: hardinparamedic: Well, the genus just confessed to making a terroristic threat and intent to murder the occupants of the vehicle.

Brilliant.

Voiceofreason01: Which is EXACTLY why firing warning shots is a felony.

THIS.

How many FARKers will defend this guys action, I wonder?

He and the victims are not of the Caucasian Persuasion, so my guess is zero.


What's to defend?

I can understand being upset if someone is messing with your property but I hardly think piling leaves on your car warrants a shooting. That's a harmless prank. Dude overreacted. I've been subjected to similar pranks. It's very frustrating so I do understand but he made a really bad, impulsive decision in the heat of the moment and now he's going to have to face the consequences of his actions.
 
2014-02-18 10:13:07 PM  
"Remember - every law-abiding citizen should be armed at all times, just in case their life is in danger from unarmed teenaged girls and car doors."

Killing someone because you THINK they egged your car? Really? Thank FSM I didn't meet any nutcases like this when I was out trick or treating and playing pranks back in the 70's...
/under the jail
//now
 
2014-02-18 10:14:02 PM  
Black guy? Arkansas? He's boned.
 
2014-02-18 10:17:16 PM  
Isolated incident # 34,664,251
 
2014-02-18 10:19:03 PM  
Scare me once, shame on you. Scare me twice.. can't.. can't get scared again
 
2014-02-18 10:20:49 PM  
He laid in wait.  He could have just as easily thrown out caltrops and then beat them to death with a tire iron.
 
2014-02-18 10:20:49 PM  

mooseyfate: Beeblebrox: You don't fark with another man's ride.

They were leaves. If wind can solve the problem, Maybe gunplay isn't the right option.


It appears there's an update buried in TFA:

Police said Willie Noble, 48, shot at the carload of teenagers after he found eggs, mayonnaise and toilet paper covering his car Friday night.

I can understand getting that pissed off when I get outside, getting all set to go to work, and my car is covered in that shiat. Especially the mayo.
 
2014-02-18 10:21:20 PM  

proteus_b: damn that racist son of a biatch,

anyone who shoots black people is racist and this guy is no exception. it's not possible that he's just a moron, nope, he's definitely a racist!


thesportsfanjournal.com

Now here's a guy who doesn't understand the difference between actual racism and straw man arguments!
 
2014-02-18 10:22:35 PM  

Vector R: mooseyfate: Beeblebrox: You don't fark with another man's ride.

They were leaves. If wind can solve the problem, Maybe gunplay isn't the right option.

It appears there's an update buried in TFA:

Police said Willie Noble, 48, shot at the carload of teenagers after he found eggs, mayonnaise and toilet paper covering his car Friday night.

I can understand getting that pissed off when I get outside, getting all set to go to work, and my car is covered in that shiat. Especially the mayo.


Yeah but you get a description/license plate number and let the cops deal with it.
 
2014-02-18 10:22:36 PM  

Enemabag Jones: Maybe he saw someone pointing a shotgun out of the vehicle?

Go with the self-defense route.  He might get a hung jury.


Personally, I don't care about the penis size of my jury.

/of course if they're hung, they might be more confident in their verdict.
 
2014-02-18 10:22:38 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Benevolent Misanthrope: In the news release, police noted that Noble did not call police before or after the shooting.

Before?  Yeah, they would have laughed in his face, if they didn't charge him with tying up the 911 line or some such.

Assuming he actually did what they say he did...

Noble is charged with first-degree murder,

Maybe.

five counts of aggravated assault

Definitely.

and committing a terroristic act.

Oh for Fark's sake.

Well, isn't terrorism by definition trying to scare someone?

By that definition, M. Night Shyamalan should be in prison for farking life.


M. Night Shyamalan actually scaring someone? What a tweest!
 
2014-02-18 10:22:48 PM  

rkiller1: Cpl.D: rkiller1: This will never show up on CNN or Nancy Grace, and you know why.  Dunn convicted

Isn't she the ex-prosecutor, who really should have known better, immediately declared the Duke Lacrosse boys guilty, and then didn't apologize later when it turned out they were innocent?

I think so, just like these 88 knuckleheads: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_88


They weren't "knuckleheads", the 88 are scum, and examples of why there should be no such thing as tenure.  Garbage, like these people, need to be kicked to the curb.
 
2014-02-18 10:23:11 PM  

lewismarktwo: He laid in wait.  He could have just as easily thrown out caltrops and then beat them to death with a tire iron.


Caltrops? Now I'm imagining drive-bys  on horseback
 
2014-02-18 10:23:25 PM  

rkiller1: This will never show up on CNN or Nancy Grace, and you know why.


No I don't. Why?
 
2014-02-18 10:25:15 PM  
Sure, the reason this guy isn't going to be a major headline is OBVIOUSLY because he and the victims were black. Not because he's, y'know, probably gonna be convicted rather than getting away with a slap on the wrist for murdering a teenager.
 
2014-02-18 10:25:32 PM  

MechaPyx: MFAWG: hardinparamedic: Well, the genus just confessed to making a terroristic threat and intent to murder the occupants of the vehicle.

Brilliant.

Voiceofreason01: Which is EXACTLY why firing warning shots is a felony.

THIS.

How many FARKers will defend this guys action, I wonder?

He and the victims are not of the Caucasian Persuasion, so my guess is zero.

What's to defend?

I can understand being upset if someone is messing with your property but I hardly think piling leaves on your car warrants a shooting. That's a harmless prank. Dude overreacted. I've been subjected to similar pranks. It's very frustrating so I do understand but he made a really bad, impulsive decision in the heat of the moment and now he's going to have to face the consequences of his actions.


There's nothing to defend. That being said, it was neither 'impulsive' nor 'heat of the moment'. There was 45 minutes between the time they left and the time they returned and were fired upon. That is 'calculated and premeditated' rather than 'impulsive in the heat of the moment'. Of course he farked himself by talking and saying something other than requesting a lawyer.

They can (and should) drop the BS terrorist thing. They have him solid on murder one and multiple felony assault  counts which will make him go away for a very long time. No sense in muddying up the waters.
 
2014-02-18 10:26:04 PM  
I guess he didn't do the classic 'pew pew pew' first.

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2014-02-18 10:29:06 PM  
Give him the death penalty by firing squad.
 
2014-02-18 10:30:03 PM  
hardinparamedic:   How many FARKers will defend this guys action, I wonder?


I'd like to hear the FULL story.  The media is FUBAR, as the Zimmerman trial (and the NBC-doctored 911 recording) demonstrated.  That being said:  If the only reason he fired was to scare the occupants, he deserves a lengthy stay at taxpayer expense in a nice, safe place.  OTOH, if the reason he fired his sidearm was because he was concerned about his personal safety and the safety of the rest of his family, that's entirely a different beast.
 
2014-02-18 10:31:51 PM  

namatad: Wait wait wait.
I live in chicago. 
Chicago cops scare the CRAP out of me.
So it is ok to shoot them?

IS being afraid justified???

FARK THIS shiat


You DO have the ability to "vote with your feet," you know...
 
2014-02-18 10:32:45 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: The ONLY conceivable out I'll give him is if he somehow shot in the air and the bullet just came down and killed the girl. Even then it's still 50/50.


You did not read the part that described the side of the car riddled with bullet holes? Unless I'm mistaken, a bullet fired up in the air would most likely hit the top of the car if it even hit it at all, which in itself is highly unlikely.

In other words; you know how I know you didn't bother to read the article before you decided to grace us with your poorly thought out comment?
 
2014-02-18 10:34:34 PM  

pissnmoan: And, we pretty much know the situation would be much different if he was white.


Oh, FFS.
 
2014-02-18 10:37:54 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: The ONLY conceivable out I'll give him is if he somehow shot in the air and the bullet just came down and killed the girl. Even then it's still 50/50.


Seven times?
 
hej
2014-02-18 10:38:06 PM  
We're expected to villianize this man, but tfa doesn't even bother telling us what kind of case out was that was vandalized.
 
2014-02-18 10:40:15 PM  
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R.I.P Adrian Brody

 
2014-02-18 10:45:08 PM  
Unfortunately they don't have firing squad in Arkansas. , but they do have the electric chair. Good thing that murder while committing an act of terror , and shooting at a vehicle that is known to be occupied are both capital crimes that they can seek the death penalty over. Looks like he is going to get all the extra crispy that his heart desires!
 
2014-02-18 10:45:29 PM  
If Obama had a cousin, he'd look like Willie Noble . . . wait . . .

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2014-02-18 10:45:31 PM  
I blame Justin Beiber.
 
2014-02-18 10:47:42 PM  

DigitalCoffee: Of course he farked himself by talking and saying something other than requesting a lawyer.

shooting into a car full of kids.
 
2014-02-18 10:50:42 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: Relax everybody, the shooter was also black, so you can go back to not giving a shiat about a black kid getting shot. This isn't another Zimmerman case as much as you and Sharpton and Jackson and Toure' and Piers Morgan were all hoping it was going to be when you clicked on the link.

Save your outrage for when he's convicted, and you can moan and cry about how the "system is racist."

Speaking of which, how dare any of you criticize him now! Don't you know saying anything bad about somebody who's black is automatically racist now?

FREE WILLIE NOW!!!


No one is trying to make it a racial issue.  It's just a 'dumbass who shouldn't have owned a gun' story.

Secret Master of All Flatulence: hardinparamedic:   How many FARKers will defend this guys action, I wonder?


I'd like to hear the FULL story.  The media is FUBAR, as the Zimmerman trial (and the NBC-doctored 911 recording) demonstrated.  That being said:  If the only reason he fired was to scare the occupants, he deserves a lengthy stay at taxpayer expense in a nice, safe place.  OTOH, if the reason he fired his sidearm was because he was concerned about his personal safety and the safety of the rest of his family, that's entirely a different beast.


He laid in wait for some kids who TPed his car and then shot at them.  During the time he was waiting he didn't even bother to call the police, which, if you're in fear of your life, would likely be your first move if you weren't actively being chased.

This doesn't come close to even the very broad Zimmerman interpretation of self defense.
 
2014-02-18 10:50:42 PM  

pissnmoan: Now, ya'll know, if this guy was white and could afford a good attorney, he would have a fair chance of walking away a free man.

He wouldn't have made incriminating statements but would have felt threatened in some way and would be busy establishing his victimization qualifications.  The good people of Arkansas would likely have supplied him with an application for a bronze statue in the town square for his good citizenship.

This guy is probably guilty as hell and deserves what he gets.  And, we pretty much know the situation would be much different if he was white.


I doubt that very much. Whiteys don't usually get free passes on murder charges. Our free passes are usually on the corporation charges, and only then it's mostly to get us out of Federal PMITA Prison and into Conjugal Visit prison.

Not saying I agree with that fact.
 
2014-02-18 10:51:48 PM  

ultraholland: black people fire warning shots like THIS


We have a nearly identical case here in Lafayette, except that the shooter is a white male accounting major who shot three teen boys, killing a 15 year old white alter server.  It will be interesting if the white kid gets the same treatment as the black guy in Arkansas.  Charges are the same.
 
2014-02-18 10:54:00 PM  

CommonName2: Make a victim feel helpless and they will eventually resort to vigilantism. Would this have happened if he felt the system would handle the crimes against him?

Also, how could he try to scare them (the terrorism part) AND plan to kill them? Isn't that an "either-or" situation?


You might want to learn the phrase "Depraved Indifference to Human Life".  It is one of the malice definitions in the Model Penal Code S 210.2(1)(b).

\If you shoot a weapon into an occupied car multiple times even with absolutely no felonious intent, it's murder if someone dies.
 
2014-02-18 10:56:38 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: In the news release, police noted that Noble did not call police before or after the shooting.

Before?  Yeah, they would have laughed in his face, if they didn't charge him with tying up the 911 line or some such.


They don't have non-emergency numbers where you live?  That's too bad, maybe you should petition to get one in your city.  Besides, most insurance companies require a police report if you want to file a claim for damages.  Policework is a 24/7 job, it's not like you have to wait until morning.
 
2014-02-18 10:57:51 PM  

Secret Master of All Flatulence: OTOH, if the reason he fired his sidearm was because he was concerned about his personal safety and the safety of the rest of his family, that's entirely a different beast.


He shot into a car that was moving away from him.

Absolutely no justification for that. No matter what Call of Counter-strike 4 tells you
 
2014-02-18 10:57:59 PM  

Oh_Enough_Already: Relax everybody, the shooter was also black, so you can go back to not giving a shiat about a black kid getting shot. This isn't another Zimmerman case as much as you and Sharpton and Jackson and Toure' and Piers Morgan were all hoping it was going to be when you clicked on the link.

Save your outrage for when he's convicted, and you can moan and cry about how the "system is racist."

Speaking of which, how dare any of you criticize him now! Don't you know saying anything bad about somebody who's black is automatically racist now?


Does it really bother you when someone thinks you're a racist? If so, why?
 
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