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(SacBee)   Man who fired multiple times into an occupied car, killing a teenage girl, claims he was "firing to scare"   (sacbee.com) divider line 219
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2014-02-18 06:14:20 PM
Which is EXACTLY why firing warning shots is a felony.
 
2014-02-18 06:15:27 PM
Well, I guess at least one of them is scared to death now
 
2014-02-18 07:02:46 PM
In the news release, police noted that Noble did not call police before or after the shooting.

Before?  Yeah, they would have laughed in his face, if they didn't charge him with tying up the 911 line or some such.

Assuming he actually did what they say he did...

Noble is charged with first-degree murder,

Maybe.

five counts of aggravated assault

Definitely.

and committing a terroristic act.

Oh for Fark's sake.
 
2014-02-18 07:05:06 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: In the news release, police noted that Noble did not call police before or after the shooting.

Before?  Yeah, they would have laughed in his face, if they didn't charge him with tying up the 911 line or some such.

Assuming he actually did what they say he did...

Noble is charged with first-degree murder,

Maybe.

five counts of aggravated assault

Definitely.

and committing a terroristic act.

Oh for Fark's sake.


Well, isn't terrorism by definition trying to scare someone?
 
2014-02-18 07:22:25 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Benevolent Misanthrope: In the news release, police noted that Noble did not call police before or after the shooting.

Before?  Yeah, they would have laughed in his face, if they didn't charge him with tying up the 911 line or some such.

Assuming he actually did what they say he did...

Noble is charged with first-degree murder,

Maybe.

five counts of aggravated assault

Definitely.

and committing a terroristic act.

Oh for Fark's sake.

Well, isn't terrorism by definition trying to scare someone?


By that definition, M. Night Shyamalan should be in prison for farking life.
 
2014-02-18 07:39:38 PM
Well, the genus just confessed to making a terroristic threat and intent to murder the occupants of the vehicle.

Brilliant.

Voiceofreason01: Which is EXACTLY why firing warning shots is a felony.


THIS.

How many FARKers will defend this guys action, I wonder?
 
2014-02-18 07:41:03 PM
Genius.

Eff you, iPhone.
 
2014-02-18 07:43:55 PM
In cases like this I'm OK with the death penalty.
 
2014-02-18 07:43:57 PM
Hey. Don't shoot guns at stuff.
You could kill someone.

Shoot at anything you wish to destroy and know is a threat to your life.

A car driving by, or standing still is not a threat.
 
2014-02-18 07:44:42 PM
This is very sad.  It could have been prevented if the "Perp" had taken a class on self-defense- regardless of who teaches it, a little girl would still be alive today, and 5 other children wouldn't be traumatized for life.

Even if you hate the NRA, the NRA's classes on WHEN to use a firearm would have saved this entire tragedy.
 
2014-02-18 07:46:52 PM
I said ACROSS her nose, not UP it!
 
2014-02-18 07:57:16 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: and committing a terroristic act.

Oh for Fark's sake.

Well, isn't terrorism by definition trying to scare someone?


Terrorism used to require a political component. These days everything is terrorism.
 
2014-02-18 08:05:34 PM

fusillade762: Terrorism used to require a political component. These days everything is terrorism.


That sounds like something a terrorist might say.
 
2014-02-18 08:20:55 PM
As a former kid who egged some houses, killing the eggers isn't the answer. Just catch them and get them to clean up the house.
 
2014-02-18 08:34:59 PM
Wait wait wait.
I live in chicago. 
Chicago cops scare the CRAP out of me.
So it is ok to shoot them?

IS being afraid justified???

FARK THIS shiat
 
2014-02-18 08:40:45 PM

hardinparamedic: Well, the genus just confessed to making a terroristic threat and intent to murder the occupants of the vehicle.

Brilliant.

Voiceofreason01: Which is EXACTLY why firing warning shots is a felony.

THIS.

How many FARKers will defend this guys action, I wonder?


Joe Biden?
 
2014-02-18 08:46:25 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: By that definition, M. Night Shyamalan should be in prison for farking life.


Well, I was being bit sarcastic, but technically speaking...

/Shyamalan? Scary?
//Personally I think he'd have lifetime immunity from prosecution
 
2014-02-18 08:52:42 PM

Trailltrader: This is very sad.  It could have been prevented if the "Perp" had taken a class on self-defense- regardless of who teaches it, a little girl would still be alive today, and 5 other children wouldn't be traumatized for life.

Even if you hate the NRA, the NRA's classes on WHEN to use a firearm would have saved this entire tragedy.


So would have him never buying a gun.
 
2014-02-18 08:58:34 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Benevolent Misanthrope: By that definition, M. Night Shyamalan should be in prison for farking life.

Well, I was being bit sarcastic, but technically speaking...

/Shyamalan? Scary?
//Personally I think he'd have lifetime immunity from prosecution


His movies just creep me out.

Hitchcock, then.  Tobe Hooper.  Wes Craven.  [insert your scariest movie's director here]
 
2014-02-18 09:17:04 PM
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She looked pretty scared to me!
 
2014-02-18 09:25:06 PM

FriarReb98: I said ACROSS her nose, not UP it!


On one hand, probably the funniest thing I've read today. On the other hand, how tragic.
 
2014-02-18 09:28:36 PM
He's not white, so he'll get the needle
/Am I doing it right
 
2014-02-18 09:29:47 PM
Dudes a piece of shiat.  With that being said, don't fark with a mans car.  That shiat just sets us off in HULK SMASH rage.
 
2014-02-18 09:30:54 PM
"Warning shots" are never a good idea. They make a pretty bad excuse if you actually kill someone with them, as well.
 
2014-02-18 09:30:56 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-18 09:31:08 PM
Hey man, nice shot.
 
2014-02-18 09:31:47 PM
The ONLY conceivable out I'll give him is if he somehow shot in the air and the bullet just came down and killed the girl. Even then it's still 50/50.
 
2014-02-18 09:32:53 PM
vudukungfu:
A car driving by, or standing still is not a threat.

If it's coming right at you, it is a threat.

/just saying
 
2014-02-18 09:33:15 PM
Yeah, warning shots are not protected under self defense laws.

/ didn't Biden basically tell people to break that law during the 2012 campaign?
 
2014-02-18 09:35:02 PM
Well let's take a look at it this way.  Would a reasonable person given the circumstances think a warning shot was an adequate alternative to shooting to kill.

 he fired his pistol because he wanted to scare a carload of teenagers he believed vandalized his vehicle

He mad.
 
2014-02-18 09:35:22 PM

lack of warmth: vudukungfu:
A car driving by, or standing still is not a threat.

If it's coming right at you, it is a threat.

/just saying


Listen, the only way you can shoot the car is if you yell, "It's coming right for us!".
 
2014-02-18 09:36:47 PM

SuperNinjaToad: The ONLY conceivable out I'll give him is if he somehow shot in the air and the bullet just came down and killed the girl. Even then it's still 50/50.


FTFA:  Officers found the driver side of the car pocked with bullet holes. Adrian was in the front passenger seat, and later died at a hospital.

It sounds like he shot right at it and hit it multiple times.
 
2014-02-18 09:37:10 PM
Oh, well, then. I say we let him g-- Heywaitaminute! Almost got me.
 
2014-02-18 09:37:33 PM
Make a victim feel helpless and they will eventually resort to vigilantism. Would this have happened if he felt the system would handle the crimes against him?

Also, how could he try to scare them (the terrorism part) AND plan to kill them? Isn't that an "either-or" situation?
 
2014-02-18 09:39:36 PM
"Mr. Noble stated that he waited inside because he knew whoever vandalized his vehicle was going to come back. Mr. Noble stated that once they returned (about 45 minutes later), he fired his handgun to scare them," according to the statement released by police Tuesday.


He lay in wait with a loaded weapon and then fired at them upon their return. THAT is premeditation. He's going to end up having to narfle the garthunk on this one.
 
2014-02-18 09:40:35 PM
black people fire warning shots like THIS
 
2014-02-18 09:41:38 PM

CommonName2: Make a victim feel helpless and they will eventually resort to vigilantism. Would this have happened if he felt the system would handle the crimes against him?

Also, how could he try to scare them (the terrorism part) AND plan to kill them? Isn't that an "either-or" situation?


Yay...it's "That Guy". Glad you could make it.
 
2014-02-18 09:42:38 PM

iheartscotch: Yeah, warning shots are not protected under self defense laws.

/ didn't Biden basically tell people to break that law during the 2012 campaign?


www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-02-18 09:43:00 PM
You don't fark with another man's ride.
 
2014-02-18 09:43:14 PM
Now, ya'll know, if this guy was white and could afford a good attorney, he would have a fair chance of walking away a free man.

He wouldn't have made incriminating statements but would have felt threatened in some way and would be busy establishing his victimization qualifications.  The good people of Arkansas would likely have supplied him with an application for a bronze statue in the town square for his good citizenship.

This guy is probably guilty as hell and deserves what he gets.  And, we pretty much know the situation would be much different if he was white.
 
2014-02-18 09:43:26 PM
Maybe he saw someone pointing a shotgun out of the vehicle?

Go with the self-defense route.  He might get a hung jury.
 
2014-02-18 09:43:42 PM

hardinparamedic: How many FARKers will defend this guys action, I wonder?


I believe that the consensus yesterday was that she'll never egg a car again, and since when do teenagers go out at night anyways and how can you expect anyone not to shoot at someone the instant they set foot on your lawn?
 
2014-02-18 09:43:53 PM
People scare better when they're dying.
 
2014-02-18 09:45:47 PM

vudukungfu: Hey. Don't shoot guns at stuff.
You could kill someone.

Shoot at anything you wish to destroy and know is a threat to your life.

A car driving by, or standing still is not a threat.


Unless you're a cop.
 
2014-02-18 09:46:11 PM

TuteTibiImperes: SuperNinjaToad: The ONLY conceivable out I'll give him is if he somehow shot in the air and the bullet just came down and killed the girl. Even then it's still 50/50.

FTFA:  Officers found the driver side of the car pocked with bullet holes. Adrian was in the front passenger seat, and later died at a hospital.

It sounds like he shot right at it and hit it multiple times.


He was aiming for the air between the car and himself.
 
2014-02-18 09:46:58 PM

Summoner101: Well let's take a look at it this way.  Would a reasonable person given the circumstances think a warning shot was an adequate alternative to shooting to kill.


No, if you don't need to kill something there's no reason to shoot at all. Unless you are at the range or something.
 
2014-02-18 09:47:16 PM

Beeblebrox: You don't fark with another man's ride.


They were leaves. If wind can solve the problem, Maybe gunplay isn't the right option.
 
2014-02-18 09:47:48 PM
Dshone?

My phone kept trying to autocorrect that name to Duh.
 
2014-02-18 09:50:11 PM

Voiceofreason01: Which is EXACTLY why firing warning shots is a felony.


This.

If that's what really happened, this guy deserves to go to prison for a very long time. Every responsible gun owner should know that you only shoot to stop an immediate threat*. If you cannot grasp this concept, you need to sell all of your firearms ASAP.

*State law determining whether that threat includes threat to others, includes sexual assault, etc.
 
2014-02-18 09:50:42 PM
It's super effective.
 
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