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2014-02-18 03:27:39 PM  

stir22: do they have nukes?

/too lazy to look


Not any more. They gave them up during the Clinton administration.
 
2014-02-18 03:27:40 PM  

Diogenes: Shiat....Kiev looks like it's in flames.


Again!?!

Dammit, Mongols!

And I think the lasers are used by the protesters. They shine them at helicopters.
 
2014-02-18 03:28:07 PM  

Heliovdrake: Sadly most people will be....

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I miss the Orange revolution.  That place has one of these every few years.   They'll do it again in 2017....as a tribute to 1917.
 
2014-02-18 03:30:21 PM  
Is this where various people from the internet feel better about themselves because they make wild assumptions based on unverified news reports and copy pasta with an authoritative tone?
 
2014-02-18 03:30:24 PM  

zimbomba63: Looks more like a repeat of 1941


www.mygen.com
 
2014-02-18 03:30:59 PM  
This really makes me want to fire up metro 2033 again....
 
2014-02-18 03:31:11 PM  
Someone tell Bubba to stop throwing fireworks in the goddarn fire!
 
2014-02-18 03:31:26 PM  
Yay...finally..they are speaking proper english like intelligent people aught!!

/too much?
 
2014-02-18 03:31:36 PM  
everyone protect Drudkh, they must keep making awesome music
 
2014-02-18 03:32:15 PM  

Tenatra: Does anyone know where they are fighting right now? I looked up a webcam feed of Kiev and Independence Square appears to just be filled with workers cleaning up debris

http://en.glaz.tv/online-webcams/kiev-ploschad-nezavisimosti


This confuses me. Explanation?
 
2014-02-18 03:32:38 PM  

rkiller1: I mean the lasers are cool and all, but what are the protesters' goals?  Anyone know what they want?  Freedom? Economic redistribution? Cake?


Snap elections, I think, and the resignation of the government and President. They're due for national elections next year, but they're so het up about the government's stampede toward the Russians and away from the EU that they don't want to wait. The current president got 48 percent of the vote, so it's not like he has a mandate to do all the radical economic and political restructuring he's been up to (basically, dismantling the Orange Revolution changes).

So basically, the rioters are Gore voters, only not as anesthetized by TV.
 
2014-02-18 03:32:53 PM  

www.midwestoutreach.org

Vodka burns.

 
2014-02-18 03:33:35 PM  
Seems appropriate: Eastern Frontier in Flames
 
2014-02-18 03:33:38 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Seriously, does ANYONE know what they are protesting? Inquiring minds want to know.


It's kind of a proxy war between the west and Russia.  The Ukrainians were hoping for closer ties to the west, and the current government ignored that and signed a customs agreement with Russia instead.  The west wants to get greater influence with Ukraine in order to curb Russian influence, and Russia sees that the Ukrainian border is only three hundred miles from Moscow, which would be kind of an existential threat in case that country decided they weren't quite friends any more.

The rioting starts from the western-leaning population, and I'm assuming all sides are mucking around in there.
 
2014-02-18 03:34:40 PM  
Hahaha.  OMG.  They have a "fire brigade" line set up....to deliver bricks to the front line.  One at a time.
 
2014-02-18 03:34:51 PM  

rkiller1: I mean the frikkin' lasers are cool and all, but what are the protesters' goals?


FTFY

/they probably want sharks
 
2014-02-18 03:35:35 PM  
The rock brigade is passing bricks/rocks through... shiat might start getting really real pretty soonish.
 
2014-02-18 03:36:30 PM  
So, Bangkok, Kiev and Caracas are up in flames tonight.....
 
2014-02-18 03:36:36 PM  

toraque: Bit'O'Gristle: Seriously, does ANYONE know what they are protesting? Inquiring minds want to know.

It's kind of a proxy war between the west and Russia.  The Ukrainians were hoping for closer ties to the west, and the current government ignored that and signed a customs agreement with Russia instead.  The west wants to get greater influence with Ukraine in order to curb Russian influence, and Russia sees that the Ukrainian border is only three hundred miles from Moscow, which would be kind of an existential threat in case that country decided they weren't quite friends any more.

The rioting starts from the western-leaning population, and I'm assuming all sides are mucking around in there.




/Ah....ty so very much for the explanation. So..same old story, the government not doing what the population wants, and pretty must just what they want to do. I get it. POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!
 
2014-02-18 03:37:30 PM  
They fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Eurasia"
 
2014-02-18 03:37:38 PM  

orezona: The rock brigade is passing bricks/rocks through... shiat might start getting really real pretty soonish.


Back when the Soviets were in charge they never got rocks.  They had to stand in lines with nothing to do to pass the time.  Ungrateful bastards.
 
2014-02-18 03:37:43 PM  
Will you give all you can give
So that our banner may advance
Some will fall and some will live
Will you stand up and take your chance?
The blood of the martyrs
Will water the meadows of France!Ukraine



eh, kinda messes up the scan a little
 
2014-02-18 03:38:01 PM  

Chris Ween: MisterTweak: xaldin: French revolution, around 40k dead. American civil war around 750k dead. Armenian  Genocide around 1M dead. Russian civil war about 9M. Mao Zedon's regime in China around 40M dead.

9 dead? Please that's not even a rough night in an inner city.

The largest city in the US, New York City, including all the rough parts like Hunts Point, had 332 murders for the entire year of 2013. 9 in a day, just in a single event, is a lot, even for someplace like Houston.

This isn't even a war, either, it's just a protest.

Chicago had 9 in a day multiple times last year?  Or something like that.  I think.  CHICAGO SUCKS!


Chicago does not have an extremely high murder rate. It had a statistical spike in 2012, but it still wasn't a high rate compared to REALLY dangerous towns like Detroit, Memphis and New Orleans. Chicago's rate is about 18 per 100k, vs. 54 per 100k in Detroit. All that Murder Capital BS was just because Chicago has a very large population inside the city limits, and thus had a big raw number. Chicago's not ultra SAFE, now, not like New York City (5.1 per 100k), but it's not a war zone, either.
 
2014-02-18 03:38:08 PM  

paulseta: Has anyone mentioned the thing about "The Ukraine" vs "Ukraine" yet?



FTFY.  It's not 1991 anymore, dude.
 
2014-02-18 03:38:11 PM  

orezona: The rock brigade is passing bricks/rocks through... shiat might start getting really real pretty soonish.


/Ya, i saw that too. They are either rebuilding, which is doubtful, or..getting ready to derp a load of bricks down upon the military, which, would be an invitation to a good pwning.
 
2014-02-18 03:38:24 PM  
Pfft, they'd be DANCING in streets instead of rioting if they knew what it was like to live under Obama.
 
2014-02-18 03:38:26 PM  

Chris Ween: orezona: The rock brigade is passing bricks/rocks through... shiat might start getting really real pretty soonish.

Back when the Soviets were in charge they never got rocks.  They had to stand in lines with nothing to do to pass the time.  Ungrateful bastards.


At the end of the line they got bread.

White bread.
 
2014-02-18 03:38:29 PM  

make me some tea: Tarkus: That's nothing compared to the tyranny of the Obama regime.

Totally.

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I only wish i had seen that earlier.  awesome pic.
 
2014-02-18 03:39:01 PM  

SlothB77: make me some tea: Tarkus: That's nothing compared to the tyranny of the Obama regime.

Totally.

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I only wish i had seen that earlier.  awesome pic.


Some interesting stuff comes up when you GIS "obama tyranny"
 
2014-02-18 03:39:13 PM  

make me some tea: Chris Ween: orezona: The rock brigade is passing bricks/rocks through... shiat might start getting really real pretty soonish.

Back when the Soviets were in charge they never got rocks.  They had to stand in lines with nothing to do to pass the time.  Ungrateful bastards.

At the end of the line they got bread.

White bread.


Racist!
 
2014-02-18 03:39:15 PM  

Panty Sniffer: Chris Ween: God I loved the tshirts in China. It was all the rage to have English writing on your shirt. Coca-cola, Nike, whatever. However, the cheaper ones didn't have rights and didn't really care. So they'd put Cow and Grocery Store on the shirts and sell it to the hip kids.

Yes, that was one of my delights while living in China.  Kids wold wear the goofiest shirts, someone of them really vulgar and offensive, if they had English on them.  This even happened in HK where English is an official language.


As well as Korea, Mongolia, anywhere in Asia, really.  And I would bet it happens in many other non-English speaking countries as well.
 
2014-02-18 03:39:58 PM  
Bit'O'Gristle: /Ah....ty so very much for the explanation. So..same old story, the government not doing what the population wants, and pretty must just what they want to do. I get it. POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!

Depends what people you're talking about. Some of those with Russian ethnicity living in Ukraine want things to stay the way they are. This keeps them tied to how things were.
 
2014-02-18 03:40:32 PM  

IRQ12: That looks f'ing terrifying.

Like whitesnake Great White concert terrifying.


FTFY
 
2014-02-18 03:40:35 PM  

mbillips: Chicago does not have an extremely high murder rate. It had a statistical spike in 2012, but it still wasn't a high rate compared to REALLY dangerous towns like Detroit, Memphis and New Orleans. Chicago's rate is about 18 per 100k, vs. 54 per 100k in Detroit. All that Murder Capital BS was just because Chicago has a very large population inside the city limits, and thus had a big raw number. Chicago's not ultra SAFE, now, not like New York City (5.1 per 100k), but it's not a war zone, either.


Also avoid neighborhoods like Englewood and Austin.  But that is only common sense.
 
2014-02-18 03:40:52 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: orezona: The rock brigade is passing bricks/rocks through... shiat might start getting really real pretty soonish.

/Ya, i saw that too. They are either rebuilding, which is doubtful, or..getting ready to derp a load of bricks down upon the military, which, would be an invitation to a good pwning.


I hate it when people derp on me.
 
2014-02-18 03:41:36 PM  

ciberido: Kids wold wear the goofiest shirts, someone of them really vulgar and offensive, if they had English on them. This even happened in HK where English is an official language.

As well as Korea, Mongolia, anywhere in Asia, really. And I would bet it happens in many other non-English speaking countries as well.


Yes, I've seen them in LA.
 
2014-02-18 03:41:58 PM  
Are people in the Ukraine allowed to own weapons? i have not seen any yet.


/Anyone?
 
2014-02-18 03:43:09 PM  
Who passed out the red hard hats?  Is that their uniform?
 
2014-02-18 03:43:27 PM  

make me some tea: Tarkus: That's nothing compared to the tyranny of the Obama regime.

Totally.

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Really? You'll find any reason to bring your OH NO OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST into the conversation?  Do your homework.  Nearly every westernized society has FREE healthcare, but I guess you are in favor of people's life savings, homes and security going to big insurance companies just because they become ill.  And by the way, we aren't living under a socialist regime. It's fascism and the fascist are screaming OH NO OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST just to keep people like you in the dark.
 
2014-02-18 03:43:42 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Are people in the Ukraine allowed to own weapons? i have not seen any yet.


/Anyone?


As an aside, all those people who talk about the 2d amendment not being a deterrent to tyranny, think of these protest where they don't have guns and still mange to get the attention of the government.
 
2014-02-18 03:44:37 PM  
The revolution will be televised, and there will be techno music.
 
2014-02-18 03:44:55 PM  

ScaryBottles: Tarkus: That's nothing compared to the tyranny of the Obama regime.

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Typical liberal, going right for physical violence and intimidation.
 
2014-02-18 03:45:27 PM  

2headedboy: FREE healthcare


"Free" as in nobody is paying for it, or "free" that somebody else is footing the bill, just not you?
 
2014-02-18 03:45:38 PM  
JesusJuice
Take note, 99%ers. This is how you make a government listen.

Break a window in America and everyone loses their shiat. Throw molotovs at riot cops in Ukraine or Greece or Turkey and no one says a word.
 
2014-02-18 03:46:07 PM  

WhiskeySticks: Bit'O'Gristle: /Ah....ty so very much for the explanation. So..same old story, the government not doing what the population wants, and pretty must just what they want to do. I get it. POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!

Depends what people you're talking about. Some of those with Russian ethnicity living in Ukraine want things to stay the way they are. This keeps them tied to how things were.


/True, you can't make everyone happy, but there seems to be tens of thousands out there now. I hope they don't charge the military. True, they have numbers, but the military has heavy weapons.  And generally, when the cops or military open up, the protesters scatter like quail from a hunting dog. Well..except the dead ones. They don't run so much.
 
2014-02-18 03:46:55 PM  

Chris Ween: Bit'O'Gristle: Are people in the Ukraine allowed to own weapons? i have not seen any yet.


/Anyone?

As an aside, all those people who talk about the 2d amendment not being a deterrent to tyranny, think of these protest where they don't have guns and still mange to get the attention of the government.


I hope they're not armed.  If they are, the body count would be a lot higher than 9, and it'd be very, very one-sided.
 
2014-02-18 03:46:57 PM  

Panty Sniffer: Who passed out the red hard hats?  Is that their uniform?


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-02-18 03:46:57 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: I have a friend there on vacation - he uploaded this to FB an hour or two ago:

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Looks like shiat just got real


Tell him to be careful.  Ukraine may be OK, but I've never been there; some countries get cranky with foreigners posting stuff that makes them look bad, especially when things are already tense.
 
2014-02-18 03:47:49 PM  

Tomahawk513: Chris Ween: Bit'O'Gristle: Are people in the Ukraine allowed to own weapons? i have not seen any yet.


/Anyone?

As an aside, all those people who talk about the 2d amendment not being a deterrent to tyranny, think of these protest where they don't have guns and still mange to get the attention of the government.

I hope they're not armed.  If they are, the body count would be a lot higher than 9, and it'd be very, very one-sided.


So, defending with rocks is better than defending with guns?  I beg to differ. What did we learn last week when Venezuela went up in flames?
 
2014-02-18 03:48:05 PM  
WTF? They are shooting roman candles at the security forces, now?

That seems... unwise.
 
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