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2014-02-18 02:04:08 PM  
If it's good enough for the dog, it's good enough for me.
 
2014-02-18 02:05:58 PM  
Dear Prudie: I'm a live-in nanny who works for this totally annoying couple, so I secretly made them drink toilet water. Now they're both sick. Should I feel badincarcerated?
 
2014-02-18 02:11:49 PM  
Remember the good old days when nannies would just have affairs with the husbands?

Now they shake the babies and poison the missus.
 
2014-02-18 02:13:08 PM  
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2014-02-18 02:13:11 PM  
I like Prudie's response: "You sound like an insufferable person, you should have been a great match with them."
 
2014-02-18 02:16:25 PM  
Bet they let that biatch eat cake too.
 
2014-02-18 02:17:04 PM  
Are you sure it was the toilet water, and not the left over takeout?
 
2014-02-18 02:17:14 PM  

LarryDan43: Bet they let that biatch eat cake too.


No it was pie.
Chocolate pie.
 
2014-02-18 02:18:49 PM  
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2014-02-18 02:18:54 PM  
Wouldn't that be poisoning?  Which I think is criminal, yes?
 
2014-02-18 02:19:48 PM  
depends ..how big are her boobs?
 
2014-02-18 02:19:57 PM  
I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.
 
2014-02-18 02:20:08 PM  
"Making people ingest fecal matter without their knowledge is indeed likely to make people ill"

So, if they know they're doing it, we're good?

Huh, the more you know.
 
2014-02-18 02:22:30 PM  
Eau de toilet.
 
2014-02-18 02:22:37 PM  

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: "Making people ingest fecal matter without their knowledge is indeed likely to make people ill"

So, if they know they're doing it, we're good?

Huh, the more you know.


Yeah, the body has ways of shutting that down when it's legitimate poisoning.
 
2014-02-18 02:22:49 PM  
FTA: So for the sake of the environment, please let's stop purchasing bottled water and start recycling that toilet water

Um.... does she know how water treatment plants work?
 
2014-02-18 02:23:55 PM  
Better than Sochi water..

www.journeytothecloud.com
 
2014-02-18 02:23:57 PM  
I need to see the nanny before I render judgment.
 
2014-02-18 02:24:37 PM  
They left out a crucial piece of information: how rich are they?
 
2014-02-18 02:24:51 PM  
Why is this being linked to on Washington Post? They just reprint Prudie from Slate. What happened to linking to the original content?
 
2014-02-18 02:24:56 PM  
All "advice" columns are fictional.
 
2014-02-18 02:25:52 PM  
as stated later in the column by a write in doctor....thats really not that much of an issue, health wise and fairly unlikely to cause them health issues that last longer than a couple of days.
 
2014-02-18 02:26:45 PM  

vudukungfu: LarryDan43: Bet they let that biatch eat cake too.

No it was pie.
Chocolate pie.


I love you, Minny Jackson.
 
2014-02-18 02:27:11 PM  

Bslim: I need to see the nanny before I render judgment.


newyorknatives.com
 
2014-02-18 02:28:47 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Bslim: I need to see the nanny before I render judgment.


Well, played.
 
2014-02-18 02:29:20 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Bslim: I need to see the nanny before I render judgment.

[newyorknatives.com image 850x637]


Great, now all I hear is that whiny voice.
 
2014-02-18 02:31:14 PM  
Passive aggressive people like this should be whipped.
I mean honest to goodness cat o'nine tails.
 
2014-02-18 02:31:29 PM  

endmile: Why is this being linked to on Washington Post? They just reprint Prudie from Slate. What happened to linking to the original content?


Maybe subby doesn't read Slate. Or someone submitted the Slate article and it didn't get green lit. The content is there so what does it really matter? WP licenses Slate's content and it's not someone's lame blog that just links to the actual content. Not sure why it is an issue in this context.
 
2014-02-18 02:33:06 PM  
Why would you advise this idiot to get legal help?  People like her should be made an example of -- if she's willing so self incriminate, why give her any reason not to?
 
2014-02-18 02:33:42 PM  

blatz514: Wellon Dowd: Bslim: I need to see the nanny before I render judgment.

[newyorknatives.com image 850x637]

Great, now all I hear is that whiny voice.


Think ball gag.
 
2014-02-18 02:34:14 PM  
Dear Prudence, I used to be a live-in nanny for the world's most annoying, inconsiderate, intolerant and rude couple. I stuck through for three months, but had to quit for my own mental health. During this time, I occasionally took revenge by sneaking into their bathroom and dipping their toothbrushes in the toilet. The wife kept a drink bottle by the bedside table and I also put some toilet water into it as well. It made me feel better about my crappy situation at the time but now that I've quit (and regained some of my sanity), I'm consumed with guilt. I heard from a mutual acquaintance that both of them are having some kind of health problems - exactly what, I don't know - and I'm worried I may have caused this. Should I call and confess? We didn't exactly leave on good terms.

No, you shouldn't feel bad. If dogs drink out of it how bad can it be?

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-18 02:35:05 PM  
That last letter got me a little.

I hear that all the time. "There's so much help out there if you just ASK for it!"

No there isn't. And be prepared for everyone to judge you horribly just for asking, and a very long time before you can get anything that even remotely looks like  real help.

But I guess that's an irresponsible thing to say to someone who is considering suicide.
 
2014-02-18 02:36:30 PM  

offmymeds: Dear Prudence, I used to be a live-in nanny for the world's most annoying, inconsiderate, intolerant and rude couple. I stuck through for three months, but had to quit for my own mental health. During this time, I occasionally took revenge by sneaking into their bathroom and dipping their toothbrushes in the toilet. The wife kept a drink bottle by the bedside table and I also put some toilet water into it as well. It made me feel better about my crappy situation at the time but now that I've quit (and regained some of my sanity), I'm consumed with guilt. I heard from a mutual acquaintance that both of them are having some kind of health problems - exactly what, I don't know - and I'm worried I may have caused this. Should I call and confess? We didn't exactly leave on good terms.

No, you shouldn't feel bad. If dogs drink out of it how bad can it be?

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 400x267]


www.findavet.us
 
2014-02-18 02:37:41 PM  

QueenMamaBee: offmymeds: Dear Prudence, I used to be a live-in nanny for the world's most annoying, inconsiderate, intolerant and rude couple. I stuck through for three months, but had to quit for my own mental health. During this time, I occasionally took revenge by sneaking into their bathroom and dipping their toothbrushes in the toilet. The wife kept a drink bottle by the bedside table and I also put some toilet water into it as well. It made me feel better about my crappy situation at the time but now that I've quit (and regained some of my sanity), I'm consumed with guilt. I heard from a mutual acquaintance that both of them are having some kind of health problems - exactly what, I don't know - and I'm worried I may have caused this. Should I call and confess? We didn't exactly leave on good terms.

No, you shouldn't feel bad. If dogs drink out of it how bad can it be?

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 400x267]

[www.findavet.us image 500x375]


LOL.
 
2014-02-18 02:38:09 PM  

Peki: That last letter got me a little.

I hear that all the time. "There's so much help out there if you just ASK for it!"

No there isn't. And be prepared for everyone to judge you horribly just for asking, and a very long time before you can get anything that even remotely looks like  real help.

But I guess that's an irresponsible thing to say to someone who is considering suicide.


Kill yourself.
 
2014-02-18 02:38:31 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

/I lol'ed
 
2014-02-18 02:40:12 PM  

Resident Muslim: Passive aggressive people like this should be whipped.
I mean honest to goodness cat o'nine tails.


Go on...
 
2014-02-18 02:41:47 PM  

FedExPope: Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: "Making people ingest fecal matter without their knowledge is indeed likely to make people ill"

So, if they know they're doing it, we're good?

Huh, the more you know.

Yeah, the body has ways of shutting that down when it's legitimate poisoning.


upload.wikimedia.org

See's what you did there.
 
2014-02-18 02:42:09 PM  
wait, you mean it's a good idea to be civil to people? especially ones that have access to your life?

if you think this is bs, keep acting like a jerk to nannys/waiters and other folks "below" you.

you'll notice a frequency in getting weird 24hr bugs like this. and probably a good bout of food poisoning twice a year.

we're all people, it doesn't take much to ruin a persons day. so it won't take them much effort to ruin your week.
 
2014-02-18 02:48:32 PM  

Resident Muslim: Passive aggressive people like this should be whipped.
I mean honest to goodness cat o'nine tails.


No, that is for consenting adults.  The thing we use to punish criminal acts is called "jail" or "prison" depending on the severity.
 
2014-02-18 02:49:23 PM  
i.imgflip.com
 
2014-02-18 02:49:50 PM  

vernonFL: Remember the good old days when nannies would just have affairs with the husbands?

Now they shake the babies and poison the missus.


Having and affair with the wife, on the other hand...
 
2014-02-18 02:50:52 PM  
As some who has been stricken with this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoid_fever

I can relate.
 
2014-02-18 02:52:54 PM  

blatz514: Wellon Dowd: Bslim: I need to see the nanny before I render judgment.

[newyorknatives.com image 850x637]

Great, now all I hear is that whiny voice.


That's why God invented threesomes.
 
2014-02-18 02:53:29 PM  
What ever happened to the classic "upper decker"?
 
2014-02-18 02:55:09 PM  
www.funnyfidos.com
 
2014-02-18 02:56:46 PM  

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: blatz514: Wellon Dowd: Bslim: I need to see the nanny before I render judgment.

[newyorknatives.com image 850x637]

Great, now all I hear is that whiny voice.

That's why God invented threesomes.


Holy balls, she's 56!?
 
2014-02-18 02:58:29 PM  

elbandito: All "advice" columns are fictional.


I submitted a totally bizarre and unbelievable but very true story to Prudie 6-7 years ago - she printed it word-for-word, no edits! Set off a pretty long thread on Slate. I was pretty shocked it was printed at all. Her advice was shiat, though.
 
2014-02-18 03:01:15 PM  
imageshack.com
 
2014-02-18 03:03:47 PM  

elbandito: All "advice" columns are fictional.


The questioner actually calls it a "crappy situation."  That's not a red flag, that's an artist signing their canvas.
 
2014-02-18 03:06:04 PM  
upndn


blatz514: Wellon Dowd: Bslim: I need to see the nanny before I render judgment.

[newyorknatives.com image 850x637]

Great, now all I hear is that whiny voice.


Think ball gag.


Or "fishhook"
 
2014-02-18 03:09:47 PM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.


Well to be fair they wernt even my kids so there!
 
2014-02-18 03:09:54 PM  
She should feel bad. If she had cleaned the toilet properly this wouldn't be an issue.
 
2014-02-18 03:12:08 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 473x266]


Done in four.  "You mean like from a toilet?"
 
2014-02-18 03:23:55 PM  
Of course I want to know if the Tidy bowl man was in there, because I bet that blue stuff would kill ya.
 
2014-02-18 03:29:16 PM  
I used to swirl my older brother's toothbrush in the toilet all the time. He never got sick.
 
2014-02-18 03:30:15 PM  

blatz514: Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: blatz514: Wellon Dowd: Bslim: I need to see the nanny before I render judgment.

[newyorknatives.com image 850x637]

Great, now all I hear is that whiny voice.

That's why God invented threesomes.

Holy balls, she's 56!?


She was in "Saturday Night Fever" and that was released 37 years ago.
 
2014-02-18 03:35:00 PM  

crzybtch: Of course I want to know if the Tidy bowl man was in there, because I bet that blue stuff would kill ya.


Not exactly the same thing, but close.

img.fark.net

//Corn nuts!
 
2014-02-18 03:35:29 PM  

Peki: That last letter got me a little.

I hear that all the time. "There's so much help out there if you just ASK for it!"

No there isn't. And be prepared for everyone to judge you horribly just for asking, and a very long time before you can get anything that even remotely looks like  real help.

But I guess that's an irresponsible thing to say to someone who is considering suicide.


This. Once you admit that you aren't suicidal at the very moment, it'll be 2 months for the next appointment. At which point, you're only at the beginning.

And, if you actually are suicidal, they'll send a firetruck and a cop. While I know some very cool cops and firemen, none of them know how to help you.

I've actually tried to use the EAP at work. Now, I just get enraged whenever I hear a manager saying how awesome it is that we care enough to provide EAP.
 
2014-02-18 03:39:06 PM  
Depends. How bad and what kind of annoying?
 
2014-02-18 03:40:16 PM  
How dirty was the toilet? There is probably just as much bacteria in the ice at your average fast food joint.
 
2014-02-18 03:41:16 PM  

Your Black Muslim Credit Union: How dirty was the toilet? There is probably just as much bacteria in the ice at your average fast food joint.


or say... on your significant others private parts when you go down on them when they are NOT fresh from the shower?
 
2014-02-18 03:43:13 PM  
I used to worry that roommates or their guests would do that to my toothbrush, but then I'd tell myself "Nobody's actually going to do something like THAT." Heh. First NSA spying, now nannies germing up toothbrushes: what's the next paranoid ideation that'll turn out to be real?

Speaking of which, are there are any Lexington KY Farkettes stalking me because they don't have the courage to contact me directly? If so it'd be better if you jumped straight to shooting me: there's no need to find out the hard way that I'm just as bad in person and a lousy lay to boot. Also the police tend to suspect ex-lovers or people who already know the victim, so a total stranger who just shot me from the bushes would probably get away with it. (As long as you didn't brag about it online and there were no tracks in the snow leading right to your house, of course.) Pretty please? You'd be removing an irritant from Fark and avenging all the women I've made suffer all these years: if anybody deserves assassination it's The One True TheDavidTM!1!

Not that I haven't made at least as many men suffer, albeit few of them in an intimate fashion, just that men don't typically feel the same kind of need to strike a blow for the Brotherhood. Or do they? Maybe I should be so sexist in my invitations. Come at me bros! And let's not forget the T-words I've called mentally ill. Etc. Etc. Etc. Come to think of it there are probably far more Farkers who might find reason to gun me down than who'd suffer from my absence; it's not like anybody really cares or my Denture Fund wouldn't still be empty.

As the saying goes, I'm sick & tired of being sick & tired. There's another month of winter left, my whole body is sore from coughing because my sinuses have decided to drain down the back of my throat, I spent the whole day in bed from a migraine and couldn't go out to buy anything for my cold symptoms, and as winter days go today hasn't been too bad. And I'm only 50 so there are like 20 more winters to suffer (and make others suffer) through, unless somebody steps up and does the necessary. Please? Think of it as a public service.

Anyway.

When you know the dog drinks from the toilet you flush it after you use it, right? And clean the bowl pretty often? And dogs' immune systems are different anyway: the ex's feist seems to thrive on shiat from her indoor cat and ferrets.

Maybe humans are weakened from not eating shiat as other creatures do. There could be a need just waiting to be filled: first deodorant, then "feminine hygiene," then iWhatevers, next maybe Fecal Immune Support. ("In several tasty varieties!") FIS brownies, FIS gelcaps, FIS-fortified hot cocoa mix...
 
2014-02-18 03:44:17 PM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.


I hope there were other reasons for you thinking the guy was creepy because if it's not good for kids to see their own family in boxers then every single parent at the beach must be creepy for exposing their children to men wearing shorts.
 
2014-02-18 03:47:08 PM  

Ghengis_Socrates: Resident Muslim:

Passive aggressive people like this should be whipped.
I mean honest to goodness cat o'nine tails.

No, that is for consenting adults.  The thing we use to punish criminal acts is called "jail" or "prison" depending on the severity.


You mean the means we have of rewarding criminals with room, board, TV, gay sex and medical care.
 
2014-02-18 03:47:12 PM  

stewbert: Peki: That last letter got me a little.

I've actually tried to use the EAP at work. Now, I just get enraged whenever I hear a manager saying how awesome it is that we care enough to provide EAP.


This. My EAP "counselor's" day job was as a guidance counselor. At an elementary school.
 
2014-02-18 03:51:25 PM  
I found the second letter, with the parents looking to mooch off the kid barely out of college, much more believable- and sad.
 
2014-02-18 03:54:50 PM  

Diogenes: Dear Prudie: I'm a live-in nanny who works for this totally annoying couple, so I secretly made them drink toilet water. Now they're both sick. Should I feel badincarcerated?


That's totally an admission of a crime. Prudie needs to work on making up stories so they are only hypothetically against the law.
 
2014-02-18 03:56:44 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-02-18 03:58:36 PM  

Trail of Dead: elbandito: All "advice" columns are fictional.

I submitted a totally bizarre and unbelievable but very true story to Prudie 6-7 years ago - she printed it word-for-word, no edits! Set off a pretty long thread on Slate. I was pretty shocked it was printed at all. Her advice was shiat, though.


Where have you gone Spent miles? A nation turns its mirth free eyes to you
 
2014-02-18 04:02:00 PM  
I hope there were other reasons for you thinking the guy was creepy because if it's not good for kids to see their own family in boxers then every single parent at the beach must be creepy for exposing their children to men wearing shorts.

Blech.  You just know he thought this was some sort of come on.

There's a weird sense of entitlement that comes with having help.  Some people get the boundaries, other people just don't.  Weirdly the latter are usually the people that don't realize that the housekeeper knows everything that goes on in your house.  If you are a jerk, then this is like having a megaphone.
 
2014-02-18 04:05:11 PM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.


That reminds me of a story...

We used to all hang out in this one guy's basement.  You know, late night beer parties and such.  More than a few times, I'd go by the kitchen on my way out and find the stepfather standing at the fridge in his underwear.  One time I actually said to him, "dude...  Really?"  His response was, "It's my house. I can do what I want."

Okay, fine.  Be that as it may.  But you should consider having some respect for your guests.
 
2014-02-18 04:07:35 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

Can't believe she'd do something like that.
 
2014-02-18 04:10:16 PM  

durbnpoisn: That reminds me of a story...

We used to all hang out in this one guy's basement. You know, late night beer parties and such. More than a few times, I'd go by the kitchen on my way out and find the stepfather standing at the fridge in his underwear. One time I actually said to him, "dude... Really?" His response was, "It's my house. I can do what I want."

Okay, fine. Be that as it may. But you should consider having some respect for your guests.


Respect?  Like having late night beer parties in a house that isn't your own?
 
2014-02-18 04:12:06 PM  
Lemme guess.  She came to be a nanny because she "loves children".
 
2014-02-18 04:14:15 PM  

The One True TheDavid: Ghengis_Socrates: Resident Muslim:

Passive aggressive people like this should be whipped.
I mean honest to goodness cat o'nine tails.

No, that is for consenting adults.  The thing we use to punish criminal acts is called "jail" or "prison" depending on the severity.

You mean the means we have of rewarding criminals with room, board, TV, gay sex and medical care.


Three hots and a co**
 
2014-02-18 04:16:41 PM  

durbnpoisn: Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.

That reminds me of a story...

We used to all hang out in this one guy's basement.  You know, late night beer parties and such.  More than a few times, I'd go by the kitchen on my way out and find the stepfather standing at the fridge in his underwear.  One time I actually said to him, "dude...  Really?"  His response was, "It's my house. I can do what I want."

Okay, fine.  Be that as it may.  But you should consider having some respect for your guests.


As opposed to telling a grown man how he should behave in his own house?
 
2014-02-18 04:17:04 PM  

durbnpoisn: Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.

That reminds me of a story...

We used to all hang out in this one guy's basement.  You know, late night beer parties and such.  More than a few times, I'd go by the kitchen on my way out and find the stepfather standing at the fridge in his underwear.  One time I actually said to him, "dude...  Really?"  His response was, "It's my house. I can do what I want."

Okay, fine.  Be that as it may.  But you should consider having some respect for your guests.


A bunch of punks drinking in HIS basement and you had the balls to say anything but Thank you for letting us drink in your house ? WOW.
 
2014-02-18 04:18:39 PM  
No, you little whiff of roses, you should feel great!  You passive aggressive piece of sh*t.  You should also consider eating a gun.
 
2014-02-18 04:19:33 PM  
If everyone just drank Brawndo, this could never have happened.
 
2014-02-18 04:22:02 PM  

offmymeds: QueenMamaBee: offmymeds: Dear Prudence, I used to be a live-in nanny for the world's most annoying, inconsiderate, intolerant and rude couple. I stuck through for three months, but had to quit for my own mental health. During this time, I occasionally took revenge by sneaking into their bathroom and dipping their toothbrushes in the toilet. The wife kept a drink bottle by the bedside table and I also put some toilet water into it as well. It made me feel better about my crappy situation at the time but now that I've quit (and regained some of my sanity), I'm consumed with guilt. I heard from a mutual acquaintance that both of them are having some kind of health problems - exactly what, I don't know - and I'm worried I may have caused this. Should I call and confess? We didn't exactly leave on good terms.

No, you shouldn't feel bad. If dogs drink out of it how bad can it be?

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 400x267]

[www.findavet.us image 500x375]

LOL.


If only I had a camera that day.  I was at my buddies house and he has a dog that actually resembles those dogs outside chewing on a frozen log of his shiat, he couldn't quite snap that bad boy in half so he choice to just toss his head back and let gravity do the work.  I started dry heaving I was so disgusted.
/cat person
 
2014-02-18 04:23:27 PM  

durbnpoisn: Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.

That reminds me of a story...

We used to all hang out in this one guy's basement.  You know, late night beer parties and such.  More than a few times, I'd go by the kitchen on my way out and find the stepfather standing at the fridge in his underwear.  One time I actually said to him, "dude...  Really?"  His response was, "It's my house. I can do what I want."

Okay, fine.  Be that as it may.  But you should consider having some respect for your guests.


You weren't a guest.  And he was sending a pretty clear message about what he thought about you.  You were just too dumb to get the message.
 
2014-02-18 04:23:38 PM  

James Rieper: I hope there were other reasons for you thinking the guy was creepy because if it's not good for kids to see their own family in boxers then every single parent at the beach must be creepy for exposing their children to men wearing shorts.

Blech.  You just know he thought this was some sort of come on.

There's a weird sense of entitlement that comes with having help.  Some people get the boundaries, other people just don't.  Weirdly the latter are usually the people that don't realize that the housekeeper knows everything that goes on in your house.  If you are a jerk, then this is like having a megaphone.


Sounds like your own projections and disgust about seeing a man in his own house in boxer shorts.
 
2014-02-18 04:25:00 PM  

MycroftHolmes: durbnpoisn: Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.

That reminds me of a story...

We used to all hang out in this one guy's basement.  You know, late night beer parties and such.  More than a few times, I'd go by the kitchen on my way out and find the stepfather standing at the fridge in his underwear.  One time I actually said to him, "dude...  Really?"  His response was, "It's my house. I can do what I want."

Okay, fine.  Be that as it may.  But you should consider having some respect for your guests.

You weren't a guest.  And he was sending a pretty clear message about what he thought about you.  You were just too dumb to get the message.


Sorry, that should have read 'you weren't his guest'.
 
2014-02-18 04:29:33 PM  
I remember my brother was visiting for Christmas. One of my sister's was there with her niece. She had a little teacup and was bringing my brother cups of "tea" that he dutifully drank.

After three or four cups of "tea", another sister was wondering where the niece was getting the water and followed her. She was getting it from the toilet. The niece was barely past the walking stage, so she didn't know any better. Everybody had a laugh about it.

That's all I have for toilet water stories.
 
2014-02-18 04:33:21 PM  

QueenMamaBee: offmymeds: Dear Prudence, I used to be a live-in nanny for the world's most annoying, inconsiderate, intolerant and rude couple. I stuck through for three months, but had to quit for my own mental health. During this time, I occasionally took revenge by sneaking into their bathroom and dipping their toothbrushes in the toilet. The wife kept a drink bottle by the bedside table and I also put some toilet water into it as well. It made me feel better about my crappy situation at the time but now that I've quit (and regained some of my sanity), I'm consumed with guilt. I heard from a mutual acquaintance that both of them are having some kind of health problems - exactly what, I don't know - and I'm worried I may have caused this. Should I call and confess? We didn't exactly leave on good terms.

No, you shouldn't feel bad. If dogs drink out of it how bad can it be?

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2014-02-18 04:34:08 PM  

MycroftHolmes: MycroftHolmes: durbnpoisn: Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.

That reminds me of a story...

We used to all hang out in this one guy's basement.  You know, late night beer parties and such.  More than a few times, I'd go by the kitchen on my way out and find the stepfather standing at the fridge in his underwear.  One time I actually said to him, "dude...  Really?"  His response was, "It's my house. I can do what I want."

Okay, fine.  Be that as it may.  But you should consider having some respect for your guests.

You weren't a guest.  And he was sending a pretty clear message about what he thought about you.  You were just too dumb to get the message.

Sorry, that should have read 'you weren't his guest'.


I was about 7 or 8 years old at a sleepover (all girls) and at some point that night my friend's dad wandered in to ask us to keep it down. He was in a shirt and a pair of obviously well-aged tighty whities. It was horrifying, and creepy as fark.

/actually, that guy in general was creepy as fark. Never liked him.
 
2014-02-18 04:34:57 PM  

AeAe: Wouldn't that be poisoning?  Which I think is criminal, yes?


Yes it would be.
 
2014-02-18 04:38:07 PM  

the_vicious_fez: MycroftHolmes: MycroftHolmes: durbnpoisn: Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.

That reminds me of a story...

We used to all hang out in this one guy's basement.  You know, late night beer parties and such.  More than a few times, I'd go by the kitchen on my way out and find the stepfather standing at the fridge in his underwear.  One time I actually said to him, "dude...  Really?"  His response was, "It's my house. I can do what I want."

Okay, fine.  Be that as it may.  But you should consider having some respect for your guests.

You weren't a guest.  And he was sending a pretty clear message about what he thought about you.  You were just too dumb to get the message.

Sorry, that should have read 'you weren't his guest'.

I was about 7 or 8 years old at a sleepover (all girls) and at some point that night my friend's dad wandered in to ask us to keep it down. He was in a shirt and a pair of obviously well-aged tighty whities. It was horrifying, and creepy as fark.

/actually, that guy in general was creepy as fark. Never liked him.


OK, that is different...and creepy
 
2014-02-18 04:39:37 PM  
Something something Fight Club.
 
2014-02-18 04:42:01 PM  

the_vicious_fez: I was about 7 or 8 years old at a sleepover (all girls) and at some point that night my friend's dad wandered in to ask us to keep it down. He was in a shirt and a pair of obviously well-aged tighty whities. It was horrifying, and creepy as fark


Did he touch you? Did he ask you to touch him? Did he take photos of you? Did he expose himself to you? No?  Then the only person being anything was you being a drama queen.
 
2014-02-18 04:44:22 PM  

Egoy3k: the_vicious_fez: I was about 7 or 8 years old at a sleepover (all girls) and at some point that night my friend's dad wandered in to ask us to keep it down. He was in a shirt and a pair of obviously well-aged tighty whities. It was horrifying, and creepy as fark

Did he touch you? Did he ask you to touch him? Did he take photos of you? Did he expose himself to you? No?  Then the only person being anything was you being a drama queen.


It was a room full of 8 year old girls, it was late, it was dark, and he just gave off bad vibes constantly. I'm not saying it was flat out wrong, I'm just saying I, as an 8 year old who didn't know this guy well, was weirded out. My parents never walked around in their undies in my house. That's what bathrobes are for.
 
2014-02-18 04:47:34 PM  

the_vicious_fez: Egoy3k: the_vicious_fez: I was about 7 or 8 years old at a sleepover (all girls) and at some point that night my friend's dad wandered in to ask us to keep it down. He was in a shirt and a pair of obviously well-aged tighty whities. It was horrifying, and creepy as fark

Did he touch you? Did he ask you to touch him? Did he take photos of you? Did he expose himself to you? No?  Then the only person being anything was you being a drama queen.

It was a room full of 8 year old girls, it was late, it was dark, and he just gave off bad vibes constantly. I'm not saying it was flat out wrong, I'm just saying I, as an 8 year old who didn't know this guy well, was weirded out. My parents never walked around in their undies in my house. That's what bathrobes are for.


If I have to get up in the middle of the night to tell a gaggle of giggly girls to STFU, it's doubtful that I would stop for a robe.
 
2014-02-18 04:51:46 PM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.


You think that's creepy? All men lose the pants at the door. Homer Simpson isn't a parody, he's livin' the dream.
 
2014-02-18 04:53:08 PM  

Spirit Hammer: the_vicious_fez: Egoy3k: the_vicious_fez: I was about 7 or 8 years old at a sleepover (all girls) and at some point that night my friend's dad wandered in to ask us to keep it down. He was in a shirt and a pair of obviously well-aged tighty whities. It was horrifying, and creepy as fark

Did he touch you? Did he ask you to touch him? Did he take photos of you? Did he expose himself to you? No?  Then the only person being anything was you being a drama queen.

It was a room full of 8 year old girls, it was late, it was dark, and he just gave off bad vibes constantly. I'm not saying it was flat out wrong, I'm just saying I, as an 8 year old who didn't know this guy well, was weirded out. My parents never walked around in their undies in my house. That's what bathrobes are for.

If I have to get up in the middle of the night to tell a gaggle of giggly girls to STFU, it's doubtful that I would stop for a robe.


Your choice. But for the sake of the hypothetical 8 year old girls, wear boxers, not briefs
 
2014-02-18 04:55:07 PM  

doglover: Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.

You think that's creepy? All men lose the pants at the door. Homer Simpson isn't a parody, he's livin' the dream.


Doesn't matter. I don't expose non-family members to my undies. It's common courtesy.
 
2014-02-18 04:57:03 PM  

the_vicious_fez: Egoy3k: the_vicious_fez: I was about 7 or 8 years old at a sleepover (all girls) and at some point that night my friend's dad wandered in to ask us to keep it down. He was in a shirt and a pair of obviously well-aged tighty whities. It was horrifying, and creepy as fark

Did he touch you? Did he ask you to touch him? Did he take photos of you? Did he expose himself to you? No?  Then the only person being anything was you being a drama queen.

It was a room full of 8 year old girls, it was late, it was dark, and he just gave off bad vibes constantly. I'm not saying it was flat out wrong, I'm just saying I, as an 8 year old who didn't know this guy well, was weirded out. My parents never walked around in their undies in my house. That's what bathrobes are for.


Before I respond I'd like to say that I was pretty harsh in my post and I regretted it after clicking add comment.

What i mean is that he probably got straight out of bed, threw on the shirt in concession to there being guests and told you to quiet down.  I'm not sure though, maybe he was a complete pedo but it seems to me that most of the creepy vibes people get about dads are because of the constant fear mongering in the media. As an uncle with a young niece I've gotten the looks and the double checks enough that I know exactly what some people think when they see a man and a child together and it disgusts me whenever time with my niece is ruined by idiots.

I was bringing my niece home from soccer practice once and my brother called me and asked me if I would take her for supper because he was late leaving work and wouldn't be home until after supper time.  Being the completely terrible role model that I am I took her to McDonald's.  So we got our meals and drove to a rest stop to eat.  The next thing I know I'm explaining to a police officer who I am and what I am doing with this girl while another officer is terrifying my niece and asking her questions.  Some busybody at the rest stop had hear my niece call me by my first name and called the cops because I clearly wasn't her father. Which is why I reacted poorly to the post.  People assuming that male interactions with children are inappropriate is not good and isn't going to lead to good things.
 
2014-02-18 04:57:28 PM  
Can everybody chill out about the "men wear whatever they want in the comfort of their home" thing?

He was creepy. For many reasons. One example was that he only ever wore boxers, nothing else. Another example was that his kids didn't like him. I punctuated it by saying he was an insufferable douche. I was just relating a story about being a nanny, holy hell.
 
2014-02-18 05:03:01 PM  

MycroftHolmes: durbnpoisn: Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.

That reminds me of a story...

We used to all hang out in this one guy's basement.  You know, late night beer parties and such.  More than a few times, I'd go by the kitchen on my way out and find the stepfather standing at the fridge in his underwear.  One time I actually said to him, "dude...  Really?"  His response was, "It's my house. I can do what I want."

Okay, fine.  Be that as it may.  But you should consider having some respect for your guests.

You weren't a guest.  And he was sending a pretty clear message about what he thought about you.  You were just too dumb to get the message.


MycroftHolmes: the_vicious_fez: MycroftHolmes: MycroftHolmes: durbnpoisn: Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.

That reminds me of a story...

We used to all hang out in this one guy's basement.  You know, late night beer parties and such.  More than a few times, I'd go by the kitchen on my way out and find the stepfather standing at the fridge in his underwear.  One time I actually said to him, "dude...  Really?"  His response was, "It's my house. I can do what I want."

Okay, fine.  Be that as it may.  But you should consider having some respect for your guests.

You weren't a guest.  And he was sending a pretty clear message about what he thought about you.  You were just too dumb to get the message.

Sorry, that should have read 'you weren't his guest'.

I was about 7 or 8 years old at a sleepover (all girls) and at some point that night my friend's dad wandered in to ask us to keep it down. He was in a shirt and a pair of obviously well-aged tighty whities. It was horrifying, and creepy as fark.

/actually, that guy in general was creepy as fark. Never liked him.

OK, that is different...and creepy


Meh.  I don't see any difference if it was later in the night.  Get up annoyed at the squealing, yell at the kids, go back to bed.

Some people just don't care what other's see them in.  Nothing creepy about that.  Hell, on the random occasion someone walks in on me when I'm on the john, I laugh at their reactions(and give them hell the rest of the day as if I was offended, because ribbing people is fun!).  I get dirty at work, I'm not ashamed to stop by the store and pick up milk or eggs on the way home. I get particularly filthy, and I strip down to boxers when I walk in the door.  I don't flaunt my beer gut or anything, but it's just the thing to do because you don't want to get machine oil and grime on stuff because it never comes out of anything.  Meh, whatever.

It may appear gross to an onlooker, but it is not innately creepy, it's utilitarian.

3pm though, everyone's gathered around the birthday cake waiting on the special girl to blow out the candles, that's a different story, and very creepy.

Of course, anything can be creepy with the wrong maneurisms or outright leering or something, but that's all also creepy fully clothed.
 
2014-02-18 05:03:53 PM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: One example was that he only ever wore boxers, nothing else.


No wife beater or Hanes shirt? Okay that's a little bit creepy. But the underwear itself is not. Single people living alone walk around nude. Men and women. The boxers ARE common courtesy.
 
2014-02-18 05:04:31 PM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: Can everybody chill out about the "men wear whatever they want in the comfort of their home" thing?

He was creepy. For many reasons. One example was that he only ever wore boxers, nothing else. Another example was that his kids didn't like him. I punctuated it by saying he was an insufferable douche. I was just relating a story about being a nanny, holy hell.


This is fark.  One of the fundamental tenets of fark is that we know more, based on a few lines or a paragraph, about a situation then the people who were actually there.  usually, this principle is applied by creating fantastic solutions or whimsical scenarios based on scant articles.
 
2014-02-18 05:06:56 PM  

omeganuepsilon: Meh. I don't see any difference if it was later in the night. Get up annoyed at the squealing, yell at the kids, go back to bed.

Some people just don't care what other's see them in. Nothing creepy about that. Hell, on the random occasion someone walks in on me when I'm on the john, I laugh at their reactions(and give them hell the rest of the day as if I was offended, because ribbing people is fun!). I get dirty at work, I'm not ashamed to stop by the store and pick up milk or eggs on the way home. I get particularly filthy, and I strip down to boxers when I walk in the door. I don't flaunt my beer gut or anything, but it's just the thing to do because you don't want to get machine oil and grime on stuff because it never comes out of anything. Meh, whatever.

It may appear gross to an onlooker, but it is not innately creepy, it's utilitarian.

3pm though, everyone's gathered around the birthday cake waiting on the special girl to blow out the candles, that's a different story, and very creepy.

Of course, anything can be creepy with the wrong maneurisms or outright leering or something, but that's all also creepy fully clothed.


YOu really do not see the difference in how you approach an late teenage\early twenties male and how you approach a bunch of 8 and 9 year old girls?  You honestly think that going into a room full of 9 year old girls in your underwear is a acceptable.  Grab a robe, grab a blanket, only stick your head in, whatever.
 
2014-02-18 05:07:37 PM  

Farce-Side: Peki: That last letter got me a little.

I hear that all the time. "There's so much help out there if you just ASK for it!"

No there isn't. And be prepared for everyone to judge you horribly just for asking, and a very long time before you can get anything that even remotely looks like  real help.

But I guess that's an irresponsible thing to say to someone who is considering suicide.

Kill yourself.


aw, did his mostly true sentiment of the reality of not being wealthy in america cause you to lash out in anger to avoid sympathy... again?
 
2014-02-18 05:08:09 PM  

MycroftHolmes: omeganuepsilon: Meh. I don't see any difference if it was later in the night. Get up annoyed at the squealing, yell at the kids, go back to bed.

Some people just don't care what other's see them in. Nothing creepy about that. Hell, on the random occasion someone walks in on me when I'm on the john, I laugh at their reactions(and give them hell the rest of the day as if I was offended, because ribbing people is fun!). I get dirty at work, I'm not ashamed to stop by the store and pick up milk or eggs on the way home. I get particularly filthy, and I strip down to boxers when I walk in the door. I don't flaunt my beer gut or anything, but it's just the thing to do because you don't want to get machine oil and grime on stuff because it never comes out of anything. Meh, whatever.

It may appear gross to an onlooker, but it is not innately creepy, it's utilitarian.

3pm though, everyone's gathered around the birthday cake waiting on the special girl to blow out the candles, that's a different story, and very creepy.

Of course, anything can be creepy with the wrong maneurisms or outright leering or something, but that's all also creepy fully clothed.

YOu really do not see the difference in how you approach an late teenage\early twenties male and how you approach a bunch of 8 and 9 year old girls?  You honestly think that going into a room full of 9 year old girls in your underwear is a acceptable.  Grab a robe, grab a blanket, only stick your head in, whatever.


So you must never go to the beach huh?
 
2014-02-18 05:13:45 PM  

Egoy3k: Before I respond I'd like to say that I was pretty harsh in my post and I regretted it after clicking add comment.

What i mean is that he probably got straight out of bed, threw on the shirt in concession to there being guests and told you to quiet down.  I'm not sure though, maybe he was a complete pedo but it seems to me that most of the creepy vibes people get about dads are because of the constant fear mongering in the media. As an uncle with a young niece I've gotten the looks and the double checks enough that I know exactly what some people think when they see a man and a child together and it disgusts me whenever time with my niece is ruined by idiots.

I was bringing my niece home from soccer practice once and my brother called me and asked me if I would take her for supper because he was late leaving work and wouldn't be home until after supper time.  Being the completely terrible role model that I am I took her to McDonald's.  So we got our meals and drove to a rest stop to eat.  The next thing I know I'm explaining to a police officer who I am and what I am doing with this girl while another officer is terrifying my niece and asking her questions.  Some busybody at the rest stop had hear my niece call me by my first name and called the cops because I clearly wasn't her father. Which is why I reacted poorly to the post.  People assuming that male interactions with children are inappropriate is not good and isn't going to lead to good things.


I don't think he was anything more than a cold, awkward guy who just didn't have the first clue of how to interact with kids (which was weird because he had a few). And the reality of the situation was most likely exactly as you described. When I say I was creeped out, I don't mean I started crying, or I went home and told my mom that my friend's dad was wandering around in his undies. There was no aftermath. It was just a weird moment that I still remember 20 years later.

The media fear mongering thing is a separate and very real issue that I worry about a lot about. There's a line between fighting for equality and rights and vilifying half the human race and it should be pretty damn broad and obvious but somehow people manage to miss it completely.
 
2014-02-18 05:16:02 PM  

Egoy3k: MycroftHolmes: omeganuepsilon: Meh. I don't see any difference if it was later in the night. Get up annoyed at the squealing, yell at the kids, go back to bed.

Some people just don't care what other's see them in. Nothing creepy about that. Hell, on the random occasion someone walks in on me when I'm on the john, I laugh at their reactions(and give them hell the rest of the day as if I was offended, because ribbing people is fun!). I get dirty at work, I'm not ashamed to stop by the store and pick up milk or eggs on the way home. I get particularly filthy, and I strip down to boxers when I walk in the door. I don't flaunt my beer gut or anything, but it's just the thing to do because you don't want to get machine oil and grime on stuff because it never comes out of anything. Meh, whatever.

It may appear gross to an onlooker, but it is not innately creepy, it's utilitarian.

3pm though, everyone's gathered around the birthday cake waiting on the special girl to blow out the candles, that's a different story, and very creepy.

Of course, anything can be creepy with the wrong maneurisms or outright leering or something, but that's all also creepy fully clothed.

YOu really do not see the difference in how you approach an late teenage\early twenties male and how you approach a bunch of 8 and 9 year old girls?  You honestly think that going into a room full of 9 year old girls in your underwear is a acceptable.  Grab a robe, grab a blanket, only stick your head in, whatever.

So you must never go to the beach huh?


Yep, I do.  And I would find a guy in a speedo approaching a bunch of 8 year old girls a little questionable too.

And no, underwear!=swimsuits.  Swimsuits are meant to be outer wear, underwear is not.  There is both a functional difference in the garments, as well as a context.
 
2014-02-18 05:16:45 PM  

Egoy3k: the_vicious_fez: I was about 7 or 8 years old at a sleepover (all girls) and at some point that night my friend's dad wandered in to ask us to keep it down. He was in a shirt and a pair of obviously well-aged tighty whities. It was horrifying, and creepy as fark

Did he touch you? Did he ask you to touch him? Did he take photos of you? Did he expose himself to you? No?  Then the only person being anything was you being a drama queen.


No, I have 3 daughters, and if any other kids are at the house you put on shorts, period.
 
2014-02-18 05:22:17 PM  
Egoy3k:

So you must never go to the beach huh?

Context is important here. I don't see a lot of guys walking down the street in speedos and being that I don't live near a beach, if I did I'd be anywhere from vaguely amused to somewhat alarmed, depending on what else he had with him, his general mannerisms, the time of day, etc.

Pirsig said it best: 'There is only one kind of person, Phædrus said, who accepts or rejects the mythos in which he lives. And the definition of that person, when he has rejected the mythos, Phædrus said, is "insane." To go outside the mythos is to become insane.'

I'm not saying anyone who colors outside the lines of propriety is insane. Pirsig is, but I think even he would agree that degree matters. However, those who choose to reject the trappings of society incur a price, and that price might be weird looks or suspicion, depending on which rules they choose to break.

I'm not trolling. I'm just trying to explain a very complicated thought process over a low bandwidth medium to a bunch of people I've never met. It's not going to work and I know it's not going to work because, once again, we don't share context and context is important, but fark it I'll try anyway.
 
2014-02-18 05:23:52 PM  
Many, MANY guys don't own or would never wear a bathrobe. Hugh Hefner was known for always wearing his velour one. And anyhow, the arbitrary definition of "creepy" we seem  to be pushing close to "hang this person that I don't like because I project my issues onto him, which is good enough to begin speculating what awful things he must do, just because I was bitten by a retarded spider and got off kilter senses. Now excuse me while I drink this margarita this handsome charming fellow at the bar just brought me."
 
2014-02-18 05:27:28 PM  

the_vicious_fez: those who choose to reject the trappings of society incur a price


Society ends at the threshold. Enter a home? Expect nudity.
 
2014-02-18 05:28:17 PM  

Fano: Many, MANY guys don't own or would never wear a bathrobe. Hugh Hefner was known for always wearing his velour one. And anyhow, the arbitrary definition of "creepy" we seem  to be pushing close to "hang this person that I don't like because I project my issues onto him, which is good enough to begin speculating what awful things he must do, just because I was bitten by a retarded spider and got off kilter senses. Now excuse me while I drink this margarita this handsome charming fellow at the bar just brought me."


Every guy I know has a bathrobe, a pair of sweatpants, a pair of pajama bottoms, or a pair of gym shorts that can be slipped on very easily.  I know of no one that does not have a garment of some sort that could not be easily put on.
 
2014-02-18 05:29:03 PM  

Fano: Many, MANY guys don't own or would never wear a bathrobe. Hugh Hefner was known for always wearing his velour one. And anyhow, the arbitrary definition of "creepy" we seem  to be pushing close to "hang this person that I don't like because I project my issues onto him, which is good enough to begin speculating what awful things he must do, just because I was bitten by a retarded spider and got off kilter senses. Now excuse me while I drink this margarita this handsome charming fellow at the bar just brought me."


I was 8. I didn't have issues. I wasn't subjected to media scare tactics. My parents were wonderful people. I was never abused as a child. But it was a weird moment and it made me uncomfortable. Then. I want to stress this. This isn't me reflecting back over two decades and deciding in retrospect that I was uncomfortable. This was what I felt at the time.I can't precisely explain why, but that's the way it was, and I'll thank you not to go around victim-blaming 8 year olds.
 
2014-02-18 05:30:07 PM  
Some years ago I worked as a handyman for a very nice, reasonably wealthy lady. She had a dalmation that drank from the toilet. One fine day her kid said the dog was drinking from the toilet and added "I hope it was flushed this time".

/and a good time was had by all
 
2014-02-18 05:31:46 PM  

the_vicious_fez: Fano: Many, MANY guys don't own or would never wear a bathrobe. Hugh Hefner was known for always wearing his velour one. And anyhow, the arbitrary definition of "creepy" we seem  to be pushing close to "hang this person that I don't like because I project my issues onto him, which is good enough to begin speculating what awful things he must do, just because I was bitten by a retarded spider and got off kilter senses. Now excuse me while I drink this margarita this handsome charming fellow at the bar just brought me."

I was 8. I didn't have issues. I wasn't subjected to media scare tactics. My parents were wonderful people. I was never abused as a child. But it was a weird moment and it made me uncomfortable. Then. I want to stress this. This isn't me reflecting back over two decades and deciding in retrospect that I was uncomfortable. This was what I felt at the time.I can't precisely explain why, but that's the way it was, and I'll thank you not to go around victim-blaming 8 year olds.


And I realized just after posting that "victim-blaming" is really not the phrase I wanted there. I wasn't a victim. But it was weird.
 
2014-02-18 05:32:43 PM  

endmile: Why is this being linked to on Washington Post? They just reprint Prudie from Slate. What happened to linking to the original content?


WaPo owns Slate and they're desperate for clicks.
 
2014-02-18 05:36:32 PM  

the_vicious_fez: the_vicious_fez: Fano: Many, MANY guys don't own or would never wear a bathrobe. Hugh Hefner was known for always wearing his velour one. And anyhow, the arbitrary definition of "creepy" we seem  to be pushing close to "hang this person that I don't like because I project my issues onto him, which is good enough to begin speculating what awful things he must do, just because I was bitten by a retarded spider and got off kilter senses. Now excuse me while I drink this margarita this handsome charming fellow at the bar just brought me."

I was 8. I didn't have issues. I wasn't subjected to media scare tactics. My parents were wonderful people. I was never abused as a child. But it was a weird moment and it made me uncomfortable. Then. I want to stress this. This isn't me reflecting back over two decades and deciding in retrospect that I was uncomfortable. This was what I felt at the time.I can't precisely explain why, but that's the way it was, and I'll thank you not to go around victim-blaming 8 year olds.

And I realized just after posting that "victim-blaming" is really not the phrase I wanted there. I wasn't a victim. But it was weird.


I thought your post was reasonable in the first place. It's the adults that I'm aiming this more for.
 
2014-02-18 05:40:04 PM  

Fano: I thought your post was reasonable in the first place. It's the adults that I'm aiming this more for.


My bad. Carry on.
 
2014-02-18 05:45:12 PM  

Egoy3k: I was bringing my niece home from soccer practice once and my brother called me and asked me if I would take her for supper because he was late leaving work and wouldn't be home until after supper time. Being the completely terrible role model that I am I took her to McDonald's.


I love my oldest niece, who was born when I was 20, and take some credit for helping to raise her. When she got too big/heavy to carry around on my shoulders I was kind of disappointed. We'd go to the park, to neighborhood pool, I'd take her with me when I had to go shopping (and buy her candy she wasn't supposed to have, of course), and so on. My attitude was more or less non-authoritarian (you can't let a 6 year old do everything she wants) and it was pretty clear to anybody who paid attention that I wasn't her father (or at least not a traditional one), but this was the late '80s so it predated the whole "OMG! PEDOPHILE!" thing.

If anyone asked or showed curiosity I'd tell 'em "my sister's kid, I'm free day care," but mostly nobody seemed that worried about it: old ladies thought it was cute (and would guess "Your niece?"), women around my age would flirt a little (and seemed to want reassurance that I wasn't her divorced father), and nobody marched up and demanded an explanation or called the frigging cops. It wasn't such a big deal that a grown man and little girl could enjoy each other's company without the man bossing the kid around all the time.

These days I'd want a signed and notarized letter from my sister explaining the relationship and giving her cell phone number in case the cops just had to interrupt her at work. "So she's sitting on my lap in the park feeding me a popsickle. Get your mind out of the gutter!"

By the way, she grew up to be hottie (at least by Fark standards) but her gorgeous, smart, sort-of sophisticated & very well-formed girlfriend is more my type. Dammit. "Dear Prudie: I finally met the woman of my dreams but she's marrying my niece. Why is life so UNFAIR?"
 
2014-02-18 05:45:18 PM  

the_vicious_fez: That's what bathrobes are for.


As any alert farker can tell you, there's another excellent reason for guys to wear a bathrobe around the house.

static3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-02-18 05:46:25 PM  

MBooda: the_vicious_fez: That's what bathrobes are for.

As any alert farker can tell you, there's another excellent reason for guys to wear a bathrobe around the house.

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Actually, the lesson there is "NO SLATTED CHAIRS"
 
2014-02-18 05:49:09 PM  
s1.dmcdn.net
 
2014-02-18 05:52:38 PM  

MycroftHolmes: And no, underwear!=swimsuits. Swimsuits are meant to be outer wear, underwear is not. There is both a functional difference in the garments, as well as a context.


And underwear hides more skin. And a hot young woman can walk around on the beach wearing a mostly imaginary thong and a tiny bikini top and it's perfectly okay: if you ogle her or talk to her you're obviously a creepy rapoid lecher because this isn't a strip bar you pervert.
 
2014-02-18 05:58:44 PM  

doglover: the_vicious_fez: those who choose to reject the trappings of society incur a price

Society ends at the threshold. Enter a home? Expect nudity.


Come in my home? Either wear a hazmat suit or figure that "living in a dumpster" ain't killed me yet.

And don't object if you see me in an Eeyore costume with a vodka bottle up my butt. Especially now that you've been warned.
 
2014-02-18 06:05:33 PM  

the_vicious_fez: MycroftHolmes: MycroftHolmes: durbnpoisn: Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.

That reminds me of a story...

We used to all hang out in this one guy's basement.  You know, late night beer parties and such.  More than a few times, I'd go by the kitchen on my way out and find the stepfather standing at the fridge in his underwear.  One time I actually said to him, "dude...  Really?"  His response was, "It's my house. I can do what I want."

Okay, fine.  Be that as it may.  But you should consider having some respect for your guests.

You weren't a guest.  And he was sending a pretty clear message about what he thought about you.  You were just too dumb to get the message.

Sorry, that should have read 'you weren't his guest'.

I was about 7 or 8 years old at a sleepover (all girls) and at some point that night my friend's dad wandered in to ask us to keep it down. He was in a shirt and a pair of obviously well-aged tighty whities. It was horrifying, and creepy as fark.

/actually, that guy in general was creepy as fark. Never liked him.


Yeah, that isn't right. I don't even hang out in underwear in front of my step kids and they are effectively family.
 
2014-02-18 06:05:39 PM  

the_vicious_fez: Fano: I thought your post was reasonable in the first place. It's the adults that I'm aiming this more for.

My bad. Carry on.


Sorry. I guess my post meandered a little. I just wanted to remind people that pedos/rapists/perverts can be perfectly charming and respectable, and that some people marked as "creeps" can be harmless normals with mediocre/poor social skills with little awareness of what their behavior looks like to others. Combine that with being unattractive or unpleasant, and you have a witch hunt in the making. I just know that I have had drama queen friends that magnify some people's weird habits into full fledged assumptions.

On point again, the person in Prudie's column is a horrid human being.
 
2014-02-18 06:06:50 PM  
the_vicious_fez:

I'll thank you not to go around victim-blaming 8 year olds.

You weren't victimized. You'd been victimizing him or he wouldn't have had to stomp in there in the middle of the night to you kids to pipe down.

"Victimized" is when he comes in naked with handcuffs and ball gags and announces it's Party Time.
 
2014-02-18 06:10:34 PM  

The One True TheDavid: the_vicious_fez:

I'll thank you not to go around victim-blaming 8 year olds.

You weren't victimized. You'd been victimizing him or he wouldn't have had to stomp in there in the middle of the night to tell you kids to pipe down.

"Victimized" is when he comes in naked with handcuffs and ball gags and announces it's Party Time.


FTFM. And I've got to learn how to use that vertical line.
 
2014-02-18 06:14:00 PM  
This sounds like a good springboard for a weird update on the old "Who would you marry/f*ck/kill?" question.

You're a live-in nanny for a celebrity couple. Out of these choices, who would you keep working for, who would you have a threesome with, and who would you poison? Your choices are Will and Jada Smith, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, and Kanye West and Kim Kardashian.
 
2014-02-18 06:20:24 PM  

EdgeRunner: This sounds like a good springboard for a weird update on the old "Who would you marry/f*ck/kill?" question.

You're a live-in nanny for a celebrity couple. Out of these choices, who would you keep working for, who would you have a threesome with, and who would you poison? Your choices are Will and Jada Smith, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, and Kanye West and Kim Kardashian.


I'd kill Kayne and kidnap Kim.
 
2014-02-18 06:20:25 PM  
I posit that if you're a dude that's so self-conscious about bundling up your junk under multiple layers when interacting with kids in your house, then  you'rethe one that's sexualizing the interaction, not the people walking around their own house in boxers. Seriously, I was born in Germany and raised by German parents and whenever I tell my American friends that I've seen both my mom and dad naked countless times, I get surprised responses, as if there's nothing more shocking and unusual than parents and their kids seeing each other naked.
 
2014-02-18 06:23:34 PM  
i.imgur.com

/everybody does it
 
2014-02-18 06:24:47 PM  

MycroftHolmes: omeganuepsilon: Meh. I don't see any difference if it was later in the night. Get up annoyed at the squealing, yell at the kids, go back to bed.

Some people just don't care what other's see them in. Nothing creepy about that. Hell, on the random occasion someone walks in on me when I'm on the john, I laugh at their reactions(and give them hell the rest of the day as if I was offended, because ribbing people is fun!). I get dirty at work, I'm not ashamed to stop by the store and pick up milk or eggs on the way home. I get particularly filthy, and I strip down to boxers when I walk in the door. I don't flaunt my beer gut or anything, but it's just the thing to do because you don't want to get machine oil and grime on stuff because it never comes out of anything. Meh, whatever.

It may appear gross to an onlooker, but it is not innately creepy, it's utilitarian.

3pm though, everyone's gathered around the birthday cake waiting on the special girl to blow out the candles, that's a different story, and very creepy.

Of course, anything can be creepy with the wrong maneurisms or outright leering or something, but that's all also creepy fully clothed.

YOu really do not see the difference in how you approach an late teenage\early twenties male and how you approach a bunch of 8 and 9 year old girls?  You honestly think that going into a room full of 9 year old girls in your underwear is a acceptable.  Grab a robe, grab a blanket, only stick your head in, whatever.


Or just do what I did when the girls had sleepovers. Yell "Shut the fark Up!" I was always fully clothed, but I never censored my mouth. I'm sure some kids went home complaining about that.
 
2014-02-18 06:25:17 PM  
Jees-
I was going to comment about the nanny and her felonious assault of her employers, but you all just want to talk about underpants and pedo's.
 
2014-02-18 06:25:44 PM  

mantabulous: I posit that if you're a dude that's so self-conscious about bundling up your junk under multiple layers when interacting with kids in your house, then  you'rethe one that's sexualizing the interaction, not the people walking around their own house in boxers. Seriously, I was born in Germany and raised by German parents and whenever I tell my American friends that I've seen both my mom and dad naked countless times, I get surprised responses, as if there's nothing more shocking and unusual than parents and their kids seeing each other naked.


Context matters.  In a culture where that type of exposure is the norm, it is not outside of the norm.  When it isn't the norm, it is abnormal.  I know this comment sounds stupid, but it is because I am having to state the terribly obvious.
 
2014-02-18 06:26:19 PM  

MycroftHolmes: Fano: Many, MANY guys don't own or would never wear a bathrobe. Hugh Hefner was known for always wearing his velour one. And anyhow, the arbitrary definition of "creepy" we seem  to be pushing close to "hang this person that I don't like because I project my issues onto him, which is good enough to begin speculating what awful things he must do, just because I was bitten by a retarded spider and got off kilter senses. Now excuse me while I drink this margarita this handsome charming fellow at the bar just brought me."

Every guy I know has a bathrobe, a pair of sweatpants, a pair of pajama bottoms, or a pair of gym shorts that can be slipped on very easily.  I know of no one that does not have a garment of some sort that could not be easily put on.


Please tell us what the functional difference between a pair of gym shorts and a pair of boxer shorts is.  If someone of any age or sex sleeps at my house they run the risk encountering me in my shorts on my way to the piss parlor at 2 AM.

While it isn't my thing I am also aware of many cultures that don't really concern themselves with non sexual nudity so I have a really hard time understanding how non-sexual non-nudity is such an issue in ours.  If I have guests of any age would I wear my old boxers with the button that doesn't always stay buttoned? No. Would I go hunting in the dark or turn on a light to wake up my wife just to find a different pair of shorts that covers me no more than my boxers? No.
 
2014-02-18 06:29:20 PM  

durbnpoisn: Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.

That reminds me of a story...

We used to all hang out in this one guy's basement.  You know, late night beer parties and such.  More than a few times, I'd go by the kitchen on my way out and find the stepfather standing at the fridge in his underwear.  One time I actually said to him, "dude...  Really?"  His response was, "It's my house. I can do what I want."

Okay, fine.  Be that as it may.  But you should consider having some respect for your guests.


I told my roomate to stop banging dudes in the living room or I would come out of my room naked and ask if I could tag in.
 
2014-02-18 06:30:35 PM  

EdgeRunner: This sounds like a good springboard for a weird update on the old "Who would you marry/f*ck/kill?" question.

You're a live-in nanny for a celebrity couple. Out of these choices, who would you keep working for, who would you have a threesome with, and who would you poison? Your choices are Will and Jada Smith, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, and Kanye West and Kim Kardashian.


I guess I'd take the threesome with Kim and Jada. Will and Brad seem cool to work for, but I'm willing to work for Jolie, too. Poison for KW. That work?
 
2014-02-18 06:39:14 PM  

Egoy3k: MycroftHolmes: Fano: Many, MANY guys don't own or would never wear a bathrobe. Hugh Hefner was known for always wearing his velour one. And anyhow, the arbitrary definition of "creepy" we seem  to be pushing close to "hang this person that I don't like because I project my issues onto him, which is good enough to begin speculating what awful things he must do, just because I was bitten by a retarded spider and got off kilter senses. Now excuse me while I drink this margarita this handsome charming fellow at the bar just brought me."

Every guy I know has a bathrobe, a pair of sweatpants, a pair of pajama bottoms, or a pair of gym shorts that can be slipped on very easily.  I know of no one that does not have a garment of some sort that could not be easily put on.

Please tell us what the functional difference between a pair of gym shorts and a pair of boxer shorts is.  If someone of any age or sex sleeps at my house they run the risk encountering me in my shorts on my way to the piss parlor at 2 AM.

While it isn't my thing I am also aware of many cultures that don't really concern themselves with non sexual nudity so I have a really hard time understanding how non-sexual non-nudity is such an issue in ours.  If I have guests of any age would I wear my old boxers with the button that doesn't always stay buttoned? No. Would I go hunting in the dark or turn on a light to wake up my wife just to find a different pair of shorts that covers me no more than my boxers? No.


I'm hoping for some unironic biatching about puritan americans
 
2014-02-18 06:41:29 PM  
LOL. And you people biatch and moan about nipplegate. YOU are the reason crap like that happens, you farking prudes.
 
2014-02-18 06:51:40 PM  
Yes, and if they die, you could be on the hook for involuntary manslaughter. Now don't you feel stupid?
 
2014-02-18 07:05:59 PM  
Well, if it weren't for the Dad's hiden-nanny-toilet-cam, he would have drunk that toilet water. As it is, he's too busy watching the nanny MAKE water. So no harm, no foul (odor).
 
2014-02-18 07:11:56 PM  
Egoy3k:If I have guests of any age would I wear my old boxers with the button that doesn't always stay buttoned? No. Would I go hunting in the dark or turn on a light to wake up my wife just to find a different pair of shorts that covers me no more than my boxers? No.

I have a possibly unreasonable dislike towards briefs. Boxers I'm fine with, and it could be because I've just never seen really worn out boxers. But there's something about cotton briefs that makes them look dingy and ratty the second they come out of the bag and they never fit right and things only go downhill from there. Also, they tend to display everything in the least flattering way.

Which isn't to say that I want to dictate people's underwear choices. But boxers seem more presentable somehow. I dunno. I'm weird.
 
2014-02-18 07:17:00 PM  
Dear Prudie,

I committed a crime, possibly a felony, against my employer, and then I provided enough information in a public forum to identify myself. Should I simply end my life, or await my inevitable arrest?

Signed, an idiot.
 
2014-02-18 07:32:06 PM  

the_vicious_fez: Spirit Hammer: the_vicious_fez: Egoy3k: the_vicious_fez: I was about 7 or 8 years old at a sleepover (all girls) and at some point that night my friend's dad wandered in to ask us to keep it down. He was in a shirt and a pair of obviously well-aged tighty whities. It was horrifying, and creepy as fark

Did he touch you? Did he ask you to touch him? Did he take photos of you? Did he expose himself to you? No?  Then the only person being anything was you being a drama queen.

It was a room full of 8 year old girls, it was late, it was dark, and he just gave off bad vibes constantly. I'm not saying it was flat out wrong, I'm just saying I, as an 8 year old who didn't know this guy well, was weirded out. My parents never walked around in their undies in my house. That's what bathrobes are for.

If I have to get up in the middle of the night to tell a gaggle of giggly girls to STFU, it's doubtful that I would stop for a robe.

Your choice. But for the sake of the hypothetical 8 year old girls, wear boxers, not briefs


nope.... still can't win because then  Anne.Uumellmahaye would be offended.
 
2014-02-18 07:32:07 PM  

the_vicious_fez: Context is important here. I don't see a lot of guys walking down the street in speedos and being that I don't live near a beach, if I did I'd be anywhere from vaguely amused to somewhat alarmed, depending on what else he had with him, his general mannerisms, the time of day, etc.


So is it O.K. for the neighbor lady to weed and mow the grass in a bikini?  Why not a guy in a speedo?

/there is one near me that does, damn near wrecked my car the one day.
 
2014-02-18 07:41:39 PM  
She should do nothing and they should count themselves lucky there children are not dead
 
2014-02-18 07:52:59 PM  

Egoy3k: the_vicious_fez: Egoy3k: the_vicious_fez: I was about 7 or 8 years old at a sleepover (all girls) and at some point that night my friend's dad wandered in to ask us to keep it down. He was in a shirt and a pair of obviously well-aged tighty whities. It was horrifying, and creepy as fark

Did he touch you? Did he ask you to touch him? Did he take photos of you? Did he expose himself to you? No?  Then the only person being anything was you being a drama queen.

It was a room full of 8 year old girls, it was late, it was dark, and he just gave off bad vibes constantly. I'm not saying it was flat out wrong, I'm just saying I, as an 8 year old who didn't know this guy well, was weirded out. My parents never walked around in their undies in my house. That's what bathrobes are for.

Before I respond I'd like to say that I was pretty harsh in my post and I regretted it after clicking add comment.

What i mean is that he probably got straight out of bed, threw on the shirt in concession to there being guests and told you to quiet down.  I'm not sure though, maybe he was a complete pedo but it seems to me that most of the creepy vibes people get about dads are because of the constant fear mongering in the media. As an uncle with a young niece I've gotten the looks and the double checks enough that I know exactly what some people think when they see a man and a child together and it disgusts me whenever time with my niece is ruined by idiots.

I was bringing my niece home from soccer practice once and my brother called me and asked me if I would take her for supper because he was late leaving work and wouldn't be home until after supper time.  Being the completely terrible role model that I am I took her to McDonald's.  So we got our meals and drove to a rest stop to eat.  The next thing I know I'm explaining to a police officer who I am and what I am doing with this girl while another officer is terrifying my niece and asking her questions.  Some busybody at the rest stop had ...


On the flip side, the only guy who ever made me sufficiently uncomfortable as a kid that I kept my distance turned out to be a legit pedophile who was molesting his step daughter and the foster kids. If it's the kid feeling weirded out and uncomfortable, you should listen to them.
 
2014-02-18 07:59:20 PM  

MycroftHolmes: Egoy3k: MycroftHolmes: omeganuepsilon: Meh. I don't see any difference if it was later in the night. Get up annoyed at the squealing, yell at the kids, go back to bed.

Some people just don't care what other's see them in. Nothing creepy about that. Hell, on the random occasion someone walks in on me when I'm on the john, I laugh at their reactions(and give them hell the rest of the day as if I was offended, because ribbing people is fun!). I get dirty at work, I'm not ashamed to stop by the store and pick up milk or eggs on the way home. I get particularly filthy, and I strip down to boxers when I walk in the door. I don't flaunt my beer gut or anything, but it's just the thing to do because you don't want to get machine oil and grime on stuff because it never comes out of anything. Meh, whatever.

It may appear gross to an onlooker, but it is not innately creepy, it's utilitarian.

3pm though, everyone's gathered around the birthday cake waiting on the special girl to blow out the candles, that's a different story, and very creepy.

Of course, anything can be creepy with the wrong maneurisms or outright leering or something, but that's all also creepy fully clothed.

YOu really do not see the difference in how you approach an late teenage\early twenties male and how you approach a bunch of 8 and 9 year old girls?  You honestly think that going into a room full of 9 year old girls in your underwear is a acceptable.  Grab a robe, grab a blanket, only stick your head in, whatever.

So you must never go to the beach huh?

Yep, I do.  And I would find a guy in a speedo approaching a bunch of 8 year old girls a little questionable too.

And no, underwear!=swimsuits.  Swimsuits are meant to be outer wear, underwear is not.  There is both a functional difference in the garments, as well as a context.


I don't really see much difference. Doesn't matter what the intent of the garment is, skin is skin.

I don't want to see a fat hairy guy in boxers or tighty whities any more than I want to see him in swim trunks or a speedo which is not at all for either. I'm not going to be terribly offended by it though.
 
2014-02-18 07:59:47 PM  
rynthetyn: On the flip side, the only guy who ever made me sufficiently uncomfortable as a kid that I kept my distance turned out to be a legit pedophile who was molesting his step daughter and the foster kids. If it's the kid feeling weirded out and uncomfortable, you should listen to them.

I can mostly agree with this. Kids are surprisingly good judges of character most of the time. They are also much more easily manipulated by adults and the media.  I agree with you that if a child feels uncomfortable you should be wary but they aren't infallible. Just like an unconcerned kid isn't a sign of complete trustworthiness either.
 
2014-02-18 08:03:53 PM  

MycroftHolmes: Fano: Many, MANY guys don't own or would never wear a bathrobe. Hugh Hefner was known for always wearing his velour one. And anyhow, the arbitrary definition of "creepy" we seem  to be pushing close to "hang this person that I don't like because I project my issues onto him, which is good enough to begin speculating what awful things he must do, just because I was bitten by a retarded spider and got off kilter senses. Now excuse me while I drink this margarita this handsome charming fellow at the bar just brought me."

Every guy I know has a bathrobe, a pair of sweatpants, a pair of pajama bottoms, or a pair of gym shorts that can be slipped on very easily.  I know of no one that does not have a garment of some sort that could not be easily put on.


I have a pair of pajama pants but I'm not going to bother fishing them out to put them on in the middle of the night in my own house to tell someone to keep it down.

If the sight of me in a pair of boxers is that offensive, please don't come to my house. It's not like I'm sitting around the dinner table in my underwear. It's perfectly legal for a man to walk down the street in nothing but boxers. Trashy yes, but legal, even if children are present.
 
2014-02-18 08:09:41 PM  

MycroftHolmes: mantabulous: I posit that if you're a dude that's so self-conscious about bundling up your junk under multiple layers when interacting with kids in your house, then  you'rethe one that's sexualizing the interaction, not the people walking around their own house in boxers. Seriously, I was born in Germany and raised by German parents and whenever I tell my American friends that I've seen both my mom and dad naked countless times, I get surprised responses, as if there's nothing more shocking and unusual than parents and their kids seeing each other naked.

Context matters.  In a culture where that type of exposure is the norm, it is not outside of the norm.  When it isn't the norm, it is abnormal.  I know this comment sounds stupid, but it is because I am having to state the terribly obvious.


No, it pretty much just sounds stupid.

You can define what is normal in your own house, not in mine.
 
2014-02-18 08:14:59 PM  

FormlessOne: Dear Prudie,

I committed a crime, possibly a felony, against my employer, and then I provided enough information in a public forum to identify myself. Should I simply end my life, or await my inevitable arrest?

Signed, an idiot.


Can't convict someone based on hearsay. They would have to prove that the crime actually occurred. Half those Prudie letters are probably made up anyway and countless people confess to crimes they didn't commit.
 
2014-02-18 08:30:33 PM  

MycroftHolmes: omeganuepsilon: Meh. I don't see any difference if it was later in the night. Get up annoyed at the squealing, yell at the kids, go back to bed.

Some people just don't care what other's see them in. Nothing creepy about that. Hell, on the random occasion someone walks in on me when I'm on the john, I laugh at their reactions(and give them hell the rest of the day as if I was offended, because ribbing people is fun!). I get dirty at work, I'm not ashamed to stop by the store and pick up milk or eggs on the way home. I get particularly filthy, and I strip down to boxers when I walk in the door. I don't flaunt my beer gut or anything, but it's just the thing to do because you don't want to get machine oil and grime on stuff because it never comes out of anything. Meh, whatever.

It may appear gross to an onlooker, but it is not innately creepy, it's utilitarian.

3pm though, everyone's gathered around the birthday cake waiting on the special girl to blow out the candles, that's a different story, and very creepy.

Of course, anything can be creepy with the wrong maneurisms or outright leering or something, but that's all also creepy fully clothed.

YOu really do not see the difference in how you approach an late teenage\early twenties male and how you approach a bunch of 8 and 9 year old girls?  You honestly think that going into a room full of 9 year old girls in your underwear is a acceptable.  Grab a robe, grab a blanket, only stick your head in, whatever.


Is it the age or the sex that changes the suitability of it?
Surely you're not sexist, not on my fark, so we'll go with age.

Why is it better for a teen, but bad for a child?

Can't they both see underwear and not care, or giggle, and think "eww gross" and just move on?

And as for your reply to the beach thing.  You shifted as if it's to a random group, not the adults offspring and friends.

So, a dad has a dresscode if taking his children to the beach?  Can wear a speedo in front of strangers and their kids, but not if he takes his kids and their friends to the beach?

He may be an embarassment, sure.  He may be inconsiderate of the kids feelings, but creepy?

/your puritan side is showing
//must cover up flesh from knee to waistline!
///I suppose the girls have to wear burkhas to the beach too?
////snarky slashies are not serious insults, just sayin'

Nothing is inherently creepy about thigh flesh.  Either you're prudish like that, or you are confusing your aversion to "eww gross" with something universal.  Are ugly people allowed to go to the beach at all?  Should they not be forced to display courtesy to others?  Should they just stay indoors?

etc

I don't like seeing ugly people any more than the next guy.  I don't like back boobs on fat chicks in hot weather either. Or plumbers crack on someone bending over.  I'm not going to dare tell anyone what not to wear, or what to cover up, as long as the basic genitals are covered and they style is not attention whorish and/or a distraction.

Why? Because empathy. I know what it's like to be hot, have my ass crack hang out while I'm under the car(or the sink) fixing something, my body being positioned in just such a way that most clothes aren't designed to accommodate(no, I will not wear a jumpsuit/overalls, the only way for them to not restrict movement is to be baggy enough to be a hazard), to be woken up in the middle of the night, utterly hazy and annoyed at the loud noises driving you insane, etc.

Laugh on the inside(cringe on the inside if you must), then move on, go about your day.  Obsessing about it, making personal judgement, is the height of hypocrisy for almost everyone, because everyone has embarrassing moments, or moments where they just don't give a fark.  No matter how you dress, you'll never please everyone, so do what works for you, and let others do so as well.
 
2014-02-18 08:40:31 PM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.


Hey, don't badmouth the no pants club.  No pants and creepy are two entirely separate issues.
 
2014-02-18 08:50:58 PM  

rynthetyn: Egoy3k: the_vicious_fez: Egoy3k: the_vicious_fez: I was about 7 or 8 years old at a sleepover (all girls) and at some point that night my friend's dad wandered in to ask us to keep it down. He was in a shirt and a pair of obviously well-aged tighty whities. It was horrifying, and creepy as fark

Did he touch you? Did he ask you to touch him? Did he take photos of you? Did he expose himself to you? No?  Then the only person being anything was you being a drama queen.

It was a room full of 8 year old girls, it was late, it was dark, and he just gave off bad vibes constantly. I'm not saying it was flat out wrong, I'm just saying I, as an 8 year old who didn't know this guy well, was weirded out. My parents never walked around in their undies in my house. That's what bathrobes are for.

Before I respond I'd like to say that I was pretty harsh in my post and I regretted it after clicking add comment.

What i mean is that he probably got straight out of bed, threw on the shirt in concession to there being guests and told you to quiet down.  I'm not sure though, maybe he was a complete pedo but it seems to me that most of the creepy vibes people get about dads are because of the constant fear mongering in the media. As an uncle with a young niece I've gotten the looks and the double checks enough that I know exactly what some people think when they see a man and a child together and it disgusts me whenever time with my niece is ruined by idiots.

I was bringing my niece home from soccer practice once and my brother called me and asked me if I would take her for supper because he was late leaving work and wouldn't be home until after supper time.  Being the completely terrible role model that I am I took her to McDonald's.  So we got our meals and drove to a rest stop to eat.  The next thing I know I'm explaining to a police officer who I am and what I am doing with this girl while another officer is terrifying my niece and asking her questions.  Some busybody at the rest ...


Because kids don't know anything. So they pick up on change right away. At the same time, kids don't know anything. What weirds them out could just be brussle sprouts.
 
2014-02-18 08:53:17 PM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.


We had several au pairs over the course of 6-7 years. Most of them would walk around the house in their underwear on their day off.
 
2014-02-18 08:59:38 PM  
Peki: That last letter got me a little.

I hear that all the time. "There's so much help out there if you just ASK for it!"

No there isn't. And be prepared for everyone to judge you horribly just for asking, and a very long time before you can get anything that even remotely looks like  real help.

But I guess that's an irresponsible thing to say to someone who is considering suicide.


I'm not sure where you are from, but in my little shiathole of a hometown (13, 000) there actually are alot of resources available. Mobile emergency mental health workers available 24-7, long term counseling can be arranged, at no charge to the "client", as it is covered under our provincial medical program. There's even a hospice type house with counselors, where you can stay, until you are feeling balanced (again, no charge). The biggest asset I had was my big brother helping me find the help I needed. I never would have looked for it by myself. I'm pretty positive I'd be dead, if not for the help I received.
 
2014-02-18 09:11:38 PM  

LarryDan43: Bet they let that biatch eat cake too.


urinal cake

...or death
 
2014-02-18 09:19:38 PM  
So many unhappy farkers.

Wish you all find some little bit of happiness somewhere to cheer you up.
 
2014-02-18 09:20:26 PM  
1: boxers are fine to wear around the house. They look like shorts.

2: tighty whities are not ok yo wear around the house. Even though they look like speedos, speedos are not ok.

3: goddamn the last letter is freaking heavy man...
 
2014-02-18 09:31:06 PM  
If your junk can slip out a leg hole or peep out the front peehole thing, maybe you shouldn't wear your boxers or shorts around kids. If the fabric is really thin and people can see if you're cut or not or your pubes are poking through the fabric, ditto.
 
2014-02-18 09:42:17 PM  

blatz514: Wellon Dowd: Bslim: I need to see the nanny before I render judgment.

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Great, now all I hear is that whiny voice.


Yeah..but shes the sexeh.
 
2014-02-18 09:55:42 PM  

groppet: I told my roomate to stop banging dudes in the living room or I would come out of my room naked and ask if I could tag in.


Was your roommate male, female or other? Just curious, you know.

I've had female roommates. The best was the one I got along with great but there was no attraction either way. She banged her boys in her room though.
 
2014-02-18 09:56:51 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Yes, and if they die, you could be on the hook for involuntary manslaughter. Now don't you feel stupid?


From seeing me in my underwear? I'm not THAT ugly.
 
2014-02-18 10:08:13 PM  
 
2014-02-18 10:15:04 PM  
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2014-02-18 11:17:40 PM  

the_vicious_fez: But boxers seem more presentable somehow. I dunno. I'm weird.


When I was 16 my balls started aching like hell. Especially the left one. So I went to free the clinic and asked if I'd caught some horrible STD. They collected samples for tests of course, but the doc told me he's pretty sure the problem is my varicose veins. Yes indeed, a 16 year old kid with varicose veins in his scrotum. He even showed me how to feel which veins were the problem.

He then said it could be treated by surgery if it got too debilitating, but there was a non-surgical method to avoid that: wear a jock strap when they were aching, and briefs instead of boxers the rest of the time. He explained it, something about blood collecting or something, but being an 8th grade dropout all I got was I needed to support the weight of my huge brass balls.

So I hear your point about briefs but it's not the aesthetics that matter to me. So much that I have too many pairs of dingy gray briefs with holes in the butts.


Seductively,
TheDavidTM
 
2014-02-18 11:27:25 PM  

The One True TheDavid: the_vicious_fez: But boxers seem more presentable somehow. I dunno. I'm weird.

When I was 16 my balls started aching like hell. Especially the left one. So I went to free the clinic and asked if I'd caught some horrible STD. They collected samples for tests of course, but the doc told me he's pretty sure the problem is my varicose veins. Yes indeed, a 16 year old kid with varicose veins in his scrotum. He even showed me how to feel which veins were the problem.

He then said it could be treated by surgery if it got too debilitating, but there was a non-surgical method to avoid that: wear a jock strap when they were aching, and briefs instead of boxers the rest of the time. He explained it, something about blood collecting or something, but being an 8th grade dropout all I got was I needed to support the weight of my huge brass balls.

So I hear your point about briefs but it's not the aesthetics that matter to me. So much that I have too many pairs of dingy gray briefs with holes in the butts.


Seductively,
TheDavidTM


What about boxer briefs? Are those allowed?

And that sucks about your balls. Good bragging rights though.
 
2014-02-18 11:40:49 PM  
the_vicious_fez:

What about boxer briefs? Are those allowed?

They look better but not quite the same level of support.

I look really silly in a jock strap though. Even died purple from washing it with red sheets.


And that sucks about your balls. Good bragging rights though.

And the noise when they clang together.
 
2014-02-18 11:49:57 PM  

Ghengis_Socrates: Resident Muslim: Passive aggressive people like this should be whipped.
I mean honest to goodness cat o'nine tails.

No, that is for consenting adults.  The thing we use to punish criminal acts is called "jail" or "prison" depending on the severity.


Yeah....no.

If you think whipping is fine between consenting adults (to each his own) then in that context it's not really punishment. In the true sense.

Likewise, if jail is not a deterrent, then it isn't real punishment.

If you are posting here, I'm assuming you remember the days when "GO TO YOUR ROOM!!" was a punishment.
That is almost no longer the case.
Grounding a kid that doesn't leave the house and lives virtually anyway is not really punishment.

These days, prison is not a deterrent. Check out repeat offenders percentages. I'm actually willing to bet that actually throwing teen boys into the system will make them real criminals, instead of the petty crimes that landed them there in the first place.

Disclaimer, I'm not for cruel and unusual punishment....ok, I take that back. I'm not for unusual punishment like sheriff joe. But the system is broken once it stops becoming a deterrent and just becomes a holding pen that releases even worse crooks into the system.

We really need to rethink the system.

/we have bars on our windows and the crooks are walking free (c)
 
2014-02-19 01:38:11 AM  

durbnpoisn: Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.

That reminds me of a story...

We used to all hang out in this one guy's basement.  You know, late night beer parties and such.  More than a few times, I'd go by the kitchen on my way out and find the stepfather standing at the fridge in his underwear.  One time I actually said to him, "dude...  Really?"  His response was, "It's my house. I can do what I want."

Okay, fine.  Be that as it may.  But you should consider having some respect for your guests.


There is a difference between guests and random kids hanging out at your house.
 
2014-02-19 05:39:46 AM  
Years ago I used to do a different line of work which required me to stop at several certain businesses during the day. At one of my stops, I was in the office getting some paperwork and was going to hit their coffee pot for a refill. One of the office girls told me before I got a refill "Don't drink the Coffee". So I skipped it wondering what that was all about but didn't give it much thought. What I saw on another day just cracked me up. Seems that one of the office gals just Hated their boss. I heard him yell out of his office for her to make him another pot of coffee. As I watched she grabbed the pot from the coffee maker and poured out the remains into the sink then refilled the pot by dipping it into the toilet bowl. That was what she poured into the top of the coffee machine. I was really Amused at this and was sure not to refill my cup when stopping there. I wonder now if he ever found out but I doubt it.
 
2014-02-19 06:13:52 AM  

Resident Muslim: Ghengis_Socrates: Resident Muslim: Passive aggressive people like this should be whipped.
I mean honest to goodness cat o'nine tails.

No, that is for consenting adults.  The thing we use to punish criminal acts is called "jail" or "prison" depending on the severity.

Yeah....no.

If you think whipping is fine between consenting adults (to each his own) then in that context it's not really punishment. In the true sense.

Likewise, if jail is not a deterrent, then it isn't real punishment.

If you are posting here, I'm assuming you remember the days when "GO TO YOUR ROOM!!" was a punishment.
That is almost no longer the case.
Grounding a kid that doesn't leave the house and lives virtually anyway is not really punishment.

These days, prison is not a deterrent. Check out repeat offenders percentages. I'm actually willing to bet that actually throwing teen boys into the system will make them real criminals, instead of the petty crimes that landed them there in the first place.

Disclaimer, I'm not for cruel and unusual punishment....ok, I take that back. I'm not for unusual punishment like sheriff joe. But the system is broken once it stops becoming a deterrent and just becomes a holding pen that releases even worse crooks into the system.

We really need to rethink the system.

/we have bars on our windows and the crooks are walking free (c)


You could always try forgiveness and turning the other cheek or is that for losers and delusionists?
 
2014-02-19 06:16:27 AM  
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2014-02-19 06:20:18 AM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: I was a live-in nanny in college. The dad was an insufferable douche who would walk around in only boxers from the time he came home from work till the time he left again in the morning.

I used to want to tell him, there's a reason your children are all huddled at my door waiting for me to wake up and let them in first thing in the morning. You are creepy. Even your offspring sense it.


Wearing boxers in your own home is not creepy. If they were briefs that would be creepy.

You sound as insufferable as that nanny.
 
2014-02-19 08:35:42 AM  

sobriquet by any other name: Farce-Side: Peki: That last letter got me a little.

I hear that all the time. "There's so much help out there if you just ASK for it!"

No there isn't. And be prepared for everyone to judge you horribly just for asking, and a very long time before you can get anything that even remotely looks like  real help.

But I guess that's an irresponsible thing to say to someone who is considering suicide.

Kill yourself.

aw, did his mostly true sentiment of the reality of not being wealthy in america cause you to lash out in anger to avoid sympathy... again?


Ha! No, just thought it fit with the whole suicide discussion.  Man some of you people really try to read into these comments way too much.

memedepot.com
 
2014-02-19 09:45:07 AM  

dready zim: Resident Muslim: Ghengis_Socrates: Resident Muslim: Passive aggressive people like this should be whipped.
I mean honest to goodness cat o'nine tails.

No, that is for consenting adults.  The thing we use to punish criminal acts is called "jail" or "prison" depending on the severity.

Yeah....no.

If you think whipping is fine between consenting adults (to each his own) then in that context it's not really punishment. In the true sense.

Likewise, if jail is not a deterrent, then it isn't real punishment.

If you are posting here, I'm assuming you remember the days when "GO TO YOUR ROOM!!" was a punishment.
That is almost no longer the case.
Grounding a kid that doesn't leave the house and lives virtually anyway is not really punishment.

These days, prison is not a deterrent. Check out repeat offenders percentages. I'm actually willing to bet that actually throwing teen boys into the system will make them real criminals, instead of the petty crimes that landed them there in the first place.

Disclaimer, I'm not for cruel and unusual punishment....ok, I take that back. I'm not for unusual punishment like sheriff joe. But the system is broken once it stops becoming a deterrent and just becomes a holding pen that releases even worse crooks into the system.

We really need to rethink the system.

/we have bars on our windows and the crooks are walking free (c)

You could always try forgiveness and turning the other cheek or is that for losers and delusionists?


Seriously, I actually think that that was introduced by the Roman Empire through the Church to placate the Christian.

Judiasm: punishment
Christianity: turn the other cheek
Islam: punishment

Something changed in the middle.

Somebody slapping me in anger and me turning the other cheek might actually make them stop and feel stupid.
Turning the other cheek to someone who did it out of ego and/or tyranny will only get you slapped again for your meekness.

A society of people who turn the other cheek will be overrun.

Ghandi said "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
And while I really respect the guy, and understand the context in which it was said disagree.
Not taking the eye of someone who takes an eye will make the poor/weak people blind.
I do not condone vigilantism. This should be done by the powers that be.
Otherwise, like I said, we end up with bars on OUR windows and the criminals walk free.

Like I said in another thread, a criminal who gets seen by a witness might actually kill the witness because the fear of retribution is gone. Thats why it's becoming more and more common to hear the phrase "don't leave any witnesses". And, yes, I watch a lot of movies, but there is a reason it caught on.

I've heard the phrase "I'd rather let 100 murderers go than kill one innocent person"
They tend to forget that by releasing 100 murderers you just condemned more than one innocent person.


No. I'm not for taking the risk of killing innocent people.
Yes, I am FOR taking the life of murderers who have been convicted BEYOND A SHADOW OF DOUBT. Not cases where the legal system is obviously broken

///slashies just for the heck of it
 
2014-02-19 12:46:47 PM  
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