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(CNN)   How bad a serial killer are you when a Satanist church won't even take credit for knowing you?   (religion.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 107
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2014-02-18 11:37:50 AM
I dunno, it's like the KKK denying any affiliation with the WBC.
 
2014-02-18 11:49:32 AM
The Satanic church is a satirical organization, actually murdering people is frowned upon.
 
2014-02-18 12:05:31 PM

swaniefrmreddeer: The Satanic church is a satirical organization, actually murdering people is frowned upon.


Yeah, they don't even actually believe in the Devil, much less worship him.  They're basically atheists who believe in extreme selfishness, while not being too much of a jerk to others.
 
2014-02-18 12:08:12 PM

Sgt Otter: swaniefrmreddeer: The Satanic church is a satirical organization, actually murdering people is frowned upon.

Yeah, they don't even actually believe in the Devil, much less worship him.  They're basically atheists who believe in extreme selfishness, while not being too much of a jerk to others.


Ahhh the Protestant code
 
2014-02-18 12:40:47 PM
Yeah.. I think that woman is nuttier than squirrel sh*t
 
2014-02-18 12:45:13 PM
The only satanists I've ever met are goobers in eye shadow who won't shut up about how satanism has nothing to do with Devil worship or human sacrifice.  They're like the NRA of religions, taking all the fun out of it.
 
2014-02-18 12:47:16 PM
You never know when you might fall under Satan's influence.

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2014-02-18 01:08:30 PM
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Isn't that special...
 
2014-02-18 01:11:58 PM

Tr0mBoNe: Sgt Otter: swaniefrmreddeer: The Satanic church is a satirical organization, actually murdering people is frowned upon.

Yeah, they don't even actually believe in the Devil, much less worship him.  They're basically atheists who believe in extreme selfishness, while not being too much of a jerk to others.

Ahhh the Protestant code


When did "not being too much of a jerk to others" become part of being a Protestant?
 
2014-02-18 01:18:11 PM
"It seems to me that she is calling herself a member of a 'satanic cult,' not a legally incorporated above-ground form of satanism."


LOL. She's not a Satanist. She didn't fill out all of the paperwork.
 
2014-02-18 01:18:12 PM
Satanism is just "Don't be a dick to people that don't deserve it because there is nothing judging you for all eternity" with optional candles and robes if you wanted.
 
2014-02-18 01:20:08 PM

Sgt Otter: swaniefrmreddeer: The Satanic church is a satirical organization, actually murdering people is frowned upon.

Yeah, they don't even actually believe in the Devil, much less worship him.  They're basically atheists who believe in extreme selfishness, while not being too much of a jerk to others.


So they follow they are Randians, except they aren't jerks?
 
2014-02-18 01:20:24 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Satanism is just "Don't be a dick to people that don't deserve it because there is nothing judging you for all eternity" with optional candles and robes if you wanted.


Pretty much - with a bit of treat people as they treat you - which also works that if someone is horrible to you, feel gfree to be just as horrible right back at them.
 
2014-02-18 01:20:50 PM
You're not a serial killer at all if you haven't killed more than one person, subby .

Yeesh. It's like people don't know the difference between a mass murderer and a serial killer.
 
2014-02-18 01:20:57 PM

kbronsito: Sgt Otter: swaniefrmreddeer: The Satanic church is a satirical organization, actually murdering people is frowned upon.

Yeah, they don't even actually believe in the Devil, much less worship him.  They're basically atheists who believe in extreme selfishness, while not being too much of a jerk to others.

So they follow they are Randians, except they aren't jerks? (sorry typing while eating).

 
2014-02-18 01:21:19 PM
The only people who think Satanism has anything to do with serial killing are 1970's Bible Belt nutjobs.
 
2014-02-18 01:21:29 PM
How many different kinds of Satanists ARE there now?

/used to know a self-proclaimed Satantist who merely saw it as a way to protest the hypocrisy of the church
 
2014-02-18 01:21:42 PM
It strikes me that there are a couple of possibilie here.  One is that there is a vast network of satanists out there training serial killers.  The other is that this chick is crazier than a shiathouse rat.

I'm going with the latter possibility.
 
2014-02-18 01:29:46 PM
Well subby, considering that the Church of Satan doesn't actually murder anyone, they'd probably deny affiliation with ANY murderer,
 
2014-02-18 01:31:20 PM

swaniefrmreddeer: The Satanic church is a satirical organization, actually murdering people is frowned upon.


THIS.  it's the original church of the flying spaghetti monster.  Outside of a few crazy screwballs claiming to hail Satan most Satanist I have met have been normal people.  It's a way of protesting and mocking.  It's a great way to fark with people. That's about it.


I don't buy it.  They killed 1 person, maybe a couple more at most.  These are crazy people wanting attention.  Until the actually tie her in with events or missing people It's more than likely all BS.  I wonder if she was crazy enough to research missing person reports and use that data for stories?  Investigation will show if this idea is correct in time.   They are already doubting her story from what I have heard.
 
2014-02-18 01:31:55 PM
Her story would be more believable if she added just a pinch of Marilyn Manson. She forgot that part.
 
2014-02-18 01:33:22 PM
Nice try, Mass Media. But this isn't the 1980's and no one but the fundies are falling for that "Satanic Panic" sh*t anymore.
 
2014-02-18 01:34:29 PM

jake_lex: It strikes me that there are a couple of possibilie here.  One is that there is a vast network of satanists out there training serial killers.  The other is that this chick is crazier than a shiathouse rat.

I'm going with the latter possibility.



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2014-02-18 01:34:49 PM
Satan was kicked out of heaven by god for daring to stand up to him, to stand up for man kind against a brutal and cruel tyrant. He is worthy of praise. Don't believe the propaganda.
 
2014-02-18 01:34:50 PM
She's lying a lot.
 
2014-02-18 01:37:00 PM
Crazy person or just really, really late to the wave of Satanic panic?
 
2014-02-18 01:37:55 PM

Sgt Otter: swaniefrmreddeer: The Satanic church is a satirical organization, actually murdering people is frowned upon.

Yeah, they don't even actually believe in the Devil, much less worship him.  They're basically atheists who believe in extreme selfishness, while not being too much of a jerk to others.


So, like, tolerable Libertarians?
 
2014-02-18 01:39:02 PM

jake_lex: It strikes me that there are a couple of possibilie here.  One is that there is a vast network of satanists out there training serial killers.  The other is that this chick is crazier than a shiathouse rat.

I'm going with the latter possibility.


No no, it's definitely the former.
You see, in the late '60s the CIA began secretly backing various cult leaders and secret societies as an experiment in thought control - Jim Jones and Charles Manson being the most famous.  The CIA couldn't control these groups, but the damage was already done.  One of them, The Process Church of the Final Judgement, itself derivative of Scientology, had a group of black magicians as its inner circle known as the Circe Order of Dog's Blood.  This outfit was responsible for ritualistic animal slaying across southern California (it's founder later tried to atone for her sins in this regard by founding a no-kill animal shelter, but was mauled by the very dogs she wanted to save).  Eventually, they expanded into human sacrifice and became known as the Four Pi Movement (though regional chapters often have different names), their goal being to strengthen their magical powers through acts of ritual evil, especially murder (but child sex trafficking is also a specialty).  The inner circle of the Four Pi Movement are known as the Hand of Death, and they used to train in Mexican slave camps.  Now, people like the lady in the article are a sort of false flag operation, incompetent bunglers who know just enough to make the general public believe it's all a bunch of crazy talk.
But do a little research and you'll know better.
 
2014-02-18 01:39:06 PM
Okay, so is this the People's Satanists of Judea or the Judean Satanist Front? I just can't keep 'em straight.
 
2014-02-18 01:39:58 PM
Greaves' Satanic Temple, more a band of political provocateurs than an organized religious group .....


......found themselves at the center of controversy during the "satanic panic" of the 1980s.


Thank you, CNN, for my next two band names.
 
2014-02-18 01:41:07 PM

Tr0mBoNe: Sgt Otter: swaniefrmreddeer: The Satanic church is a satirical organization, actually murdering people is frowned upon.

Yeah, they don't even actually believe in the Devil, much less worship him.  They're basically atheists who believe in extreme selfishness, while not being too much of a jerk to others.

Ahhh the Protestant code


Actually, Anton LeVay based the Church of Satan on the teachings of... Ayn Rand.
 
2014-02-18 01:41:19 PM
Real Satanists don't go around killing people willy-nilly. Anton LeVey was very specific about when it's ok to kill, and "for sh*ts-and-giggles" isn't in there.
 
2014-02-18 01:43:20 PM
Real Satanism vs. what we want to believe about Satanism is a lot like real lesbian couples vs what we would like to believe about lesbian couples.
 
2014-02-18 01:44:46 PM

Silly_Sot: Real Satanism vs. what we want to believe about Satanism is a lot like real lesbian couples vs what we would like to believe about lesbian couples.


So...spare tires, mullets an subaru station wagons are the devil's work?
 
2014-02-18 01:46:41 PM
Did she even draw a ritual pentagram to sacrifice her victims on?
 
2014-02-18 01:47:59 PM
Perhaps she's a member of the Process Church Of the Final judgement

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2014-02-18 01:50:16 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Satanism is just "Don't be a dick to people that don't deserve it because there is nothing judging you for all eternity" with optional candles and robes if you wanted.


...so, why call it satanism if Satan isn't involved?
 
2014-02-18 01:51:10 PM

swaniefrmreddeer: The Satanic church is a satirical organization, actually murdering people is frowned upon.


Even if it were a real church, Satan worship is no different than God worship -- they feel that their guy is the right guy and isn't defined by the Christian propaganda.

Look whose the biggest dick in the Bible:

Genesis: God puts tree of Knowledge (of Good and Evil) within walking distance of Adam and Eve; he could've put it on a remote island, but he put it right next to them. He then tells them not to eat from it, which they do anyway because they don't know it's wrong to disobey God ... knowledge they would have had if they'd had the Knowledge of Good and Evil before hand -- God denied them the very thing they needed to obey him, and then punished them for not obeying him.

Genesis: "Hey, Isaac, if you really love me you'll kill your son and then burn his corpse. Seriously, go do it. Do it! No! Stop! Dude, I was just farking with you! Ha hahaha...."

Job: Satan farks with Job's life, utterly destroying it. Why? Because God made a bet with him. God permitted Satan to mess with Job as much as he wanted to, and then when Job was all like "WTF?" God told Job to STFU and EABOD: "I'm God; fark you."

God sacrificed his only son.

Yeah, God's kind of an asshole.
 
2014-02-18 01:52:26 PM

jshine: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Satanism is just "Don't be a dick to people that don't deserve it because there is nothing judging you for all eternity" with optional candles and robes if you wanted.

...so, why call it satanism if Satan isn't involved?


Because Anton Lavey was a huckster who knew that's what would get him attention.
 
2014-02-18 01:57:48 PM

jshine: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Satanism is just "Don't be a dick to people that don't deserve it because there is nothing judging you for all eternity" with optional candles and robes if you wanted.

...so, why call it satanism if Satan isn't involved?


Because they've managed to adopt most of hells philosophies without actually believing in it.
 
2014-02-18 01:58:22 PM
Any religion founded by a guy named Anton is invalid from the beginning.
 
2014-02-18 01:59:26 PM

Kome: Sgt Otter: swaniefrmreddeer: The Satanic church is a satirical organization, actually murdering people is frowned upon.

Yeah, they don't even actually believe in the Devil, much less worship him.  They're basically atheists who believe in extreme selfishness, while not being too much of a jerk to others.

So, like, tolerable Libertarians?


Pretty much.  Before my last deployment, I had to verify every guy in my platoon had a set of dog tags with the correct info.  One dude had CHURCH OF SATAN stamped on his, under religion.  I busted his balls about it, and then he told me about while we were killing time on a training exercise.

Wiki has a quick summary.

It's basically, be nice to women, children, and animals.  Don't whine.  Do not deny yourself pleasure, unless it infringes upon the pleasure of others.  Be both a gracious host and guest, unless your guest or host offends you.  If wronged, seek vengeance.
 
2014-02-18 02:02:14 PM

jake_lex: It strikes me that there are a couple of possibilie here.  One is that there is a vast network of satanists out there training serial killers.  The other is that this chick is crazier than a shiathouse rat.

I'm going with the latter possibility.


I'm almost 100% with you on the "shiathouse rat" part, except for one tiny thing that makes a twinge of doubt.

During the time she claims to have been operating in the "Satanic Cult" in Alaska, we had a interval of about a year when dismembered human torso's were washing up on the beach in Turnagain Arm.  3, if I remember right.  And I don't ever remember of hearing if the bodies were identified or if they ever caught who was responsible.

Need to go back and dig through the ADN archives when I get a chance.

*cue X-files theme*
 
2014-02-18 02:03:56 PM

Skyd1v: jake_lex: It strikes me that there are a couple of possibilie here.  One is that there is a vast network of satanists out there training serial killers.  The other is that this chick is crazier than a shiathouse rat.

I'm going with the latter possibility.

I'm almost 100% with you on the "shiathouse rat" part, except for one tiny thing that makes a twinge of doubt.

During the time she claims to have been operating in the "Satanic Cult" in Alaska, we had a interval of about a year when dismembered human torso's were washing up on the beach in Turnagain Arm.  3, if I remember right.  And I don't ever remember of hearing if the bodies were identified or if they ever caught who was responsible.

Need to go back and dig through the ADN archives when I get a chance.

*cue X-files theme*


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2014-02-18 02:05:00 PM
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2014-02-18 02:06:12 PM

Mikey1969: Well subby, considering that the Church of Satan doesn't actually murder anyone, they'd probably deny affiliation with ANY murderer,


Like they're going to admit to commiting murder.
 
2014-02-18 02:06:38 PM
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2014-02-18 02:16:27 PM

MJMaloney187: Real Satanists don't go around killing people willy-nilly. Anton LeVey was very specific about when it's ok to kill, and "for sh*ts-and-giggles" isn't in there.


There are no "real" satanists.
 
2014-02-18 02:25:15 PM
*sigh* Anton Levay was a comedian who liked sex, hence the Church of Satan. If you don't get the joke, well you are a sad pathetic wretch of a human.
 
2014-02-18 02:25:51 PM

jshine: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Satanism is just "Don't be a dick to people that don't deserve it because there is nothing judging you for all eternity" with optional candles and robes if you wanted.

...so, why call it satanism if Satan isn't involved?


The same reason it's called Christianity even though Christ isn't involved.
 
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