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(Reuters)   The cost and quality of broadband in the US is just as embarrassing as the status of healthcare   (blogs.reuters.com) divider line 237
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2014-02-17 08:34:54 PM  
Embarrassing? Subby, take off your partisan blinders for just one second.  Healthcare --aka Obamacare -- was embarrassing. Obamacare promised health insurance for everybody, and then it turned around and couldn't even create a web site that people could use. Do you know how many people literally died trying to log on to the Obamacare website? Sick people, desperate for health insurance, spending their last feeble moments waiting for a login page to reload. Uncountable numbers of them. *That's* what's embarrassing. That. And do you know why it failed? I'll tell you why. Because Obamacare was nothing more than the iron gauntlet of Big Government trying to envelope the invisible hand of the free market. That's what happens when you try to put an iron gauntlet on an invisible hand. Every time, that's what happens. I mean, you can't even see an invisible hand, for Pete's sake? Why on earth would you try to stick a gauntlet it? That's intro-level business, real amateur grade stuff. So who knows how Obamacare might have turned out if Big Government had only put its faith in the ability of the health care industry to implement it? If only Obama had said something like, "You know, I have this idea. And I don't even know how to design a website or run a health care exchange, but it's MY idea and I'M the government so it's going to be MY way or the highway." He was like Icarus, soaring to close to the sun and then melting. This is what happens when a president doesn't learn from history.

So, more to your point, yes, it is true that we have a slight broadband problem in this country. Most of that is because of regulations, which exist. But now we have two titans of industry, Comcast and Time Warner. Two fingers on industry's invisible hand. Now, I ask you subby: which is the stronger number: Two? Or one?

Two, you say, but that is because you do not understand the nature of business. We've already established that. See, subby, a finger alone can be broken. A finger alone cannot plug a hole. Two fingers, though...two fingers coming together as one? That's strength. That's power. Could that happen if the invisible hand was wearing an iron gauntlet?

No, of course not. See? You've learned something today.
 
2014-02-17 08:49:19 PM  
Single payer broadband now!
 
2014-02-17 08:54:17 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Embarrassing? Subby, take off your partisan blinders for just one second.  Healthcare --aka Obamacare -- was embarrassing. Obamacare promised health insurance for everybody, and then it turned around and couldn't even create a web site that people could use. Do you know how many people literally died trying to log on to the Obamacare website? Sick people, desperate for health insurance, spending their last feeble moments waiting for a login page to reload. Uncountable numbers of them. *That's* what's embarrassing. That. And do you know why it failed? I'll tell you why. Because Obamacare was nothing more than the iron gauntlet of Big Government trying to envelope the invisible hand of the free market. That's what happens when you try to put an iron gauntlet on an invisible hand. Every time, that's what happens. I mean, you can't even see an invisible hand, for Pete's sake? Why on earth would you try to stick a gauntlet it? That's intro-level business, real amateur grade stuff. So who knows how Obamacare might have turned out if Big Government had only put its faith in the ability of the health care industry to implement it? If only Obama had said something like, "You know, I have this idea. And I don't even know how to design a website or run a health care exchange, but it's MY idea and I'M the government so it's going to be MY way or the highway." He was like Icarus, soaring to close to the sun and then melting. This is what happens when a president doesn't learn from history.

So, more to your point, yes, it is true that we have a slight broadband problem in this country. Most of that is because of regulations, which exist. But now we have two titans of industry, Comcast and Time Warner. Two fingers on industry's invisible hand. Now, I ask you subby: which is the stronger number: Two? Or one?

Two, you say, but that is because you do not understand the nature of business. We've already established that. See, subby, a finger alone can be broken. A finger alone cannot plug a hole. Two fingers, though...two fingers coming together as one? That's strength. That's power. Could that happen if the invisible hand was wearing an iron gauntlet?

No, of course not. See? You've learned something today.


Crazy post is crazy.
 
2014-02-17 08:55:39 PM  
I am surprised that our downlink is so fast in comparison to other countries.
 
2014-02-17 09:05:00 PM  
Give Comcast a big fat tax break. That always fixes things.
 
2014-02-17 09:08:18 PM  
'Murka!  frkkyeah!
 
2014-02-17 09:16:52 PM  

b2theory: I am surprised that our downlink is so fast in comparison to other countries.


And yet we pay three times as much as the other countries. It's pretty bad when broadband is 1/3 the cost it is in Japan.
 
2014-02-17 09:23:10 PM  
img.fark.net

I'm paying $54.95/month for that. :-(
 
2014-02-17 09:44:25 PM  

bdub77: b2theory: I am surprised that our downlink is so fast in comparison to other countries.

And yet we pay three times as much as the other countries. It's pretty bad when broadband is 1/3 the cost it is in Japan.


No doubt. I am just surprised that its that high.
 
2014-02-17 09:51:08 PM  

bdub77: b2theory: I am surprised that our downlink is so fast in comparison to other countries.

And yet we pay three times as much as the other countries. It's pretty bad when broadband is 1/3 the cost it is in Japan.


Japan is a touch more densely populated. That makes things a lot cheaper.
 
2014-02-17 10:26:47 PM  

Pocket Ninja: No, of course not. See? You've learned something today.


Did you hear that sound, Pocket Ninja?  That was the sound of me standing on my roof at 10:20 at night, screaming "THANK YOU POCKET NINJA".  And the sound of those police sirens?  Those represent the crisis that this country is in.  I have said for years that the internet is number seven on my list of the Top 272 Most Dangerous Inventions of All-Time for a reason.  The internet allows shills and trolls to pollute the discourse, to spread libelous ad-hominem attacks against their opponents, to let liberals wipe their hands with their butts, go to their computers, and literally shiatpost.  And you know who is stopping those posts from getting across the internet at a reasonable rate of speed?  Time Warner and Comcast.  By stalling "progress", they are preventing liberals from exchanging their ideas in a free and open democracy.  And as the greatest defender of democracy that this world has ever seen, I support the corporations and their efforts to destroy this exchange of ideas.  Thank you again, Time Warner.  Thank you again, Comcast.  You provide the United States with poor-quality internet at expensive rates.  I can only wonder where we would be without you.
 
2014-02-17 10:32:47 PM  
Obvious tag being throttled to over-use?
 
2014-02-17 10:40:46 PM  
The U.S. is failing at most everything other than war, ignorance, and making a select few very wealthy while driving the general population into poverty in a police state.
 
2014-02-17 10:40:58 PM  

Mike_LowELL: Pocket Ninja: No, of course not. See? You've learned something today.

Did you hear that sound, Pocket Ninja?  That was the sound of me standing on my roof at 10:20 at night, screaming "THANK YOU POCKET NINJA".  And the sound of those police sirens?  Those represent the crisis that this country is in.  I have said for years that the internet is number seven on my list of the Top 272 Most Dangerous Inventions of All-Time for a reason.  The internet allows shills and trolls to pollute the discourse, to spread libelous ad-hominem attacks against their opponents, to let liberals wipe their hands with their butts, go to their computers, and literally shiatpost.  And you know who is stopping those posts from getting across the internet at a reasonable rate of speed?  Time Warner and Comcast.  By stalling "progress", they are preventing liberals from exchanging their ideas in a free and open democracy.  And as the greatest defender of democracy that this world has ever seen, I support the corporations and their efforts to destroy this exchange of ideas.  Thank you again, Time Warner.  Thank you again, Comcast.  You provide the United States with poor-quality internet at expensive rates.  I can only wonder where we would be without you.


Now we just need stop arresting me to show up and reply
 
2014-02-17 11:14:53 PM  

JerkyMeat: The U.S. is failing at most everything other than war, ignorance, and making a select few very wealthy while driving the general population into poverty in a police state.


Even our wars are overly expensive and of shoddy quality.
 
2014-02-17 11:39:15 PM  
Yeah but boy do we stuff those pipes with porn like no body's business!
 
2014-02-17 11:47:27 PM  
But with ObamaCare we are now on par with Canada and Europe, right?  So our broadband must be faster than the speed of light, no?
/DNRTFA
 
2014-02-17 11:47:57 PM  
hey! but think of the bright side.    it is very profitable for the netcoms! *airwank*
 
2014-02-17 11:48:39 PM  

fusillade762: JerkyMeat: The U.S. is failing at most everything other than war, ignorance, and making a select few very wealthy while driving the general population into poverty in a police state.

Even our wars are overly expensive and of shoddy quality.


Why would you want to win a war in a couple of weeks, when you can make much more profit by having it drag on for a decade or so?
 
2014-02-17 11:48:47 PM  
Obama could lower broadband costs with an Executive Order, just like he did with health care.

/He can do anything he wants
 
2014-02-17 11:49:35 PM  
Every once in a while a city or county will try to set up an independently-funded broadband company for under-served communities.
COMCAST always, ALWAYS shovels money at the State Legislature until they pass a law making it illegal to even THINK about it ever again.
With no competition - and COMCAST has monopoly power - we are guaranteed high prices and low quality.
 
2014-02-17 11:50:01 PM  

JerkyMeat: The U.S. is failing at most everything other than war, ignorance, and making a select few very wealthy while driving the general population into poverty in a police state.

THANKS OBAMA!


www.speedtest.net
I pay $45 a month for this.  The last "promotion" I had was half the speed for $60 a month.  It's the first time in history that Centurylink hasn't been a bad dream wrapped up in gorilla rape
 
2014-02-17 11:50:11 PM  

b2theory: Crazy post is crazy.


It's Orly Taitz level crazy.
 
2014-02-17 11:51:18 PM  
and it's (pricing) even worse in canada
monopolies rock!
 
2014-02-17 11:55:09 PM  
ibdp.huluim.com
 
2014-02-17 11:55:16 PM  
Our system is bought and paid for by the powers-that-be.  They've got everything locked up to extract the maximum possible from each consumer.
 
2014-02-17 11:56:46 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Comcast and Time Warner


That's Timecast Comwarner now. They put in an offer to buy last week.

So it'll be one finger, and I think you know which one.
 
2014-02-17 11:59:18 PM  
Wait till that awesome 300GB /m data cap goes nationwide and you start paying overage fees
 
2014-02-18 12:01:18 AM  
www.speedtest.net$45
 
2014-02-18 12:01:35 AM  

austin_millbarge: b2theory: Crazy post is crazy.

It's Orly Taitz level crazy.


you're not familiar with the fark, nay, national treasure known as pocket ninja...
 
2014-02-18 12:02:15 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: I pay $45 a month for this.


I work for Time Warner. Not just answering phones, I develop the telephony system. I have the best internet you can get in the city, home of Time Warner corporate headquarters. This is the best I can get:

www.speedtest.net

Can you imagine the sad I have?
 
2014-02-18 12:03:00 AM  
The flaw with the article is that American companies are ten times more greedy than their foreign counterparts and have always priced things at "what the market can bear" (not what is fair).

The laws against monopolies were written a long time ago because they could see this coming... a long time ago.
 
2014-02-18 12:05:08 AM  
So here's my guess: Pocket Ninja is a time traveler from a future in which the schools exclusively use John Hodgman's writings as their textbooks... And the pages are all laced with LSD.
 
2014-02-18 12:05:24 AM  

styckx: Wait till that awesome 300GB /m data cap goes nationwide and you start paying overage fees


I already have that with AT&T which we're stuck on :(  IT SUCKS!

/I've taken up a new hobby of hacking others connections ;)
//Mooch their bandwidth since our stupid complex doesn't allow anything else besides AT&T
///I think you'll see more people taking up this hobby if a cap gets placed on the lines!
////Way to encourage people to hack others, AT&T!
 
2014-02-18 12:05:32 AM  
Can't handle the free market, can you libs?
 
2014-02-18 12:06:23 AM  

bdub77: b2theory: I am surprised that our downlink is so fast in comparison to other countries.

And yet we pay three times as much as the other countries. It's pretty bad when broadband is 1/3 the cost it is in Japan.


Having lived in South Korea and a couple of other countries, I have to say that the difference is like night and day.  I've always had a better Internet connection outside the USA than in it.  Hell, I had a better Internet connection most of the time I was in Outer Mongolia, and that's pretty sad.
 
2014-02-18 12:07:19 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Mike_LowELL: Pocket Ninja: No, of course not. See? You've learned something today.

Did you hear that sound, Pocket Ninja?  That was the sound of me standing on my roof at 10:20 at night, screaming "THANK YOU POCKET NINJA".  And the sound of those police sirens?  Those represent the crisis that this country is in.  I have said for years that the internet is number seven on my list of the Top 272 Most Dangerous Inventions of All-Time for a reason.  The internet allows shills and trolls to pollute the discourse, to spread libelous ad-hominem attacks against their opponents, to let liberals wipe their hands with their butts, go to their computers, and literally shiatpost.  And you know who is stopping those posts from getting across the internet at a reasonable rate of speed?  Time Warner and Comcast.  By stalling "progress", they are preventing liberals from exchanging their ideas in a free and open democracy.  And as the greatest defender of democracy that this world has ever seen, I support the corporations and their efforts to destroy this exchange of ideas.  Thank you again, Time Warner.  Thank you again, Comcast.  You provide the United States with poor-quality internet at expensive rates.  I can only wonder where we would be without you.

Now we just need stop arresting me to show up and reply


I'm interested in hearing meow said the dog's thoughts on this topic, personally.
 
2014-02-18 12:07:22 AM  

EvilEgg: bdub77: b2theory: I am surprised that our downlink is so fast in comparison to other countries.

And yet we pay three times as much as the other countries. It's pretty bad when broadband is 1/3 the cost it is in Japan.

Japan is a touch more densely populated. That makes things a lot cheaper.


The BOS-NYC-DC corridor is also densely populated, comparable to Japan, Korea and western Europe.

And yet, internet service in the US northeast is significantly slower and more expensive than other countries. Why is that?
 
2014-02-18 12:08:28 AM  
www.speedtest.net
Vietnam,
 
2014-02-18 12:08:51 AM  

hervatski: Yeah but boy do we stuff those pipes with porn like no body's business!


The Internet is not a series of pipes.  It's more like a big truck.
 
2014-02-18 12:09:36 AM  

palladiate: Pocket Ninja: Comcast and Time Warner

That's Timecast Comwarner now. They put in an offer to buy last week.

So it'll be one finger, and I think you know which one.


UFIA?  UFII?
 
2014-02-18 12:09:58 AM  
www.speedtest.net
/fios
 
2014-02-18 12:10:34 AM  

albert71292: [img.fark.net image 300x135]

I'm paying $54.95/month for that. :-(


$35 for an average of four Mb/s. My friend in Scotland pays the equivalent of $20 for an average of 20 Mb/s. The US is the most technologically advanced country in the world*, thank goodness.

*Claims have not been verified for honesty.
 
2014-02-18 12:11:11 AM  

Capt.Plywood: So here's my guess: Pocket Ninja is a time traveler from a future in which the schools exclusively use John Hodgman's writings as their textbooks... And the pages are all laced with LSD.


Just remember that when reading Pocket Ninja's posts, safety is not guaranteed.
 
2014-02-18 12:11:29 AM  
www.speedtest.net

On an island, About $50/month.
 
2014-02-18 12:11:38 AM  
www.speedtest.net

I have no idea how much the broadband counts for exactly, but my combined bill of cable and internet is $140. I would gladly switch to Google Internet the very second it becomes available in my area.
 
2014-02-18 12:13:15 AM  
Server 2000Km away in Hanoi

www.speedtest.net

HCMC - Hanoi , well it's less than 100usd a month btw
 
2014-02-18 12:13:28 AM  

palladiate: Smeggy Smurf: I pay $45 a month for this.

I work for Time Warner. Not just answering phones, I develop the telephony system. I have the best internet you can get in the city, home of Time Warner corporate headquarters. This is the best I can get:

[www.speedtest.net image 300x135]

Can you imagine the sad I have?



So you live in NYC? So do I.  I had TW up until last month when my building went to Fios.

When I first got TW, my speed was somewhere around 8 Mb down, and lol, 512Kb up.  I actually paid 10 bucks extra to get my upload to a screaming 768Kb.  They upped the speed to the building when Fios came into the neighborhood ( I suppose so they could claim to be competitive) and my speed went to 20/2
Which was decent, but nothing even remotely approaching the 50/25 I get from Fios now.  I actually once called third level support at TW, and asked why they offered such shiat internet upload speed.  The guy told me that "he doesn't even think about it".  Nice.  Anyways, when Fios got approved in NYC, TW should have started putting money into their infrastructure to meet or exceed Fios' offering, but no, they chose to take out a large scale marjetign scheme ab9out how Fios and Verizon sucked.

It doesn't seem to have worked, because TWC lost about 50% of the customers in my building.  When I went to return my equipment, they tried to sit me down and give me a hard sell to stay.  I basically laughed, told them that Fios was going to eat their lunch, and promptly walked out.

My 50/25 speeds test out faster on the ookla tests.  However, I do notice that when the testing server I am using is TW's, the ping is higher.  Perhaps they're shaping the traffic based on where the test is originating from.  Wouldn't put it past TWC.
 
2014-02-18 12:14:08 AM  

palladiate: Smeggy Smurf: I pay $45 a month for this.

I work for Time Warner. Not just answering phones, I develop the telephony system. I have the best internet you can get in the city, home of Time Warner corporate headquarters. This is the best I can get:



Can you imagine the sad I have?


And we INVENTED that shiat here in America. It's amazing to me how the people who are most insistent that America is the greatest country in the world always seem to both have no clue how we actually stack up in pretty much any way AND tend to support positions that shiat away what greatness we have had.
 
2014-02-18 12:14:20 AM  
www.speedtest.net

Uverse plus this for about $130.
 
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