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2014-02-17 03:35:12 PM
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It's finally happening.
 
2014-02-17 04:03:05 PM

thamike: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

It's finally happening.


Doubtful. The party is full of racist and homophobic scumbags, but they won't eat each other. The GOP is like a schizophrenic that achieves momentary sanity and then turns into Tyler Durdan with an emphasis on sport farking the American people.
 
2014-02-17 04:08:57 PM

bdub77: Doubtful. The party is full of racist and homophobic scumbags, but they won't eat each other. The GOP is like a schizophrenic that achieves momentary sanity and then turns into Tyler Durdan with an emphasis on sport farking the American people.


Let's at least give them some credit for sh*tcanning a bad, bad, bad law.  If I learned anything as a Navy nuke it is that "knows right answer when told" is not a common trait.

I'm very happy that Kansas of all places put the brakes on this; that state is deepest, darkest red especially in social terms.  Tennessee, Idaho, and some other state have similar proposals starting up and let's hope those also hit a brick wall before their governors' desk.
 
2014-02-17 04:20:23 PM
It's primary season. The bill probably wasn't crazy enough.
 
2014-02-17 04:21:45 PM

bdub77: thamike: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

It's finally happening.

Doubtful. The party is full of racist and homophobic scumbags, but they won't eat each other. The GOP is like a schizophrenic that achieves momentary sanity and then turns into Tyler Durdan with an emphasis on sport farking the American people.


Complete fracturing and dissolving may be doubtful.  But these guys have fundamentally destroyed their own party.
And yes, they will eat each other, just like they are now.  You watch.  One can't reconcile with the inconsolable, especially if the inconsolable are unreconciliable.  That party is f*cked until they wise up.  Wising up, in this case, will take some sloughing.
 
2014-02-17 04:46:35 PM
In a normal world, the House members that voted for this, but in particular the guy that drafted it, should be voted out of office.  Unfortunately, Kansas is not the normal world.
 
2014-02-17 05:01:25 PM
Either that or they realized that someone would sue and it would be overturned. Not that that's ever stopped them before.
 
2014-02-17 05:09:48 PM

fusillade762: Either that or they realized that someone would sue and it would be overturned. Not that that's ever stopped them before.


No, there's a certain element of them that WANT to be sued. They see themselves taking this righteously all the way up to the Supreme Court, where they'll be vindicated and their Christian religious freedom will forever be enshrined as law.
 
2014-02-17 05:14:35 PM

bdub77: thamike: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

It's finally happening.

Doubtful. The party is full of racist and homophobic scumbags, but they won't eat each other. The GOP is like a schizophrenic that achieves momentary sanity and then turns into Tyler Durdan with an emphasis on sport farking the American people.


They've been fighting each other for a while now, man.  Even the national-level party is having a fight over control.
 
2014-02-17 05:15:28 PM
Perhaps there's still hope for Kansas after all... wait, no, who am I kidding, Sam Brownback is still governor, they're farked.
 
2014-02-17 05:18:30 PM

Grandiloquent Grapefruit: Perhaps there's still hope for Kansas after all... wait, no, who am I kidding, Sam Brownback is still governor, they're farked.


If the economy was better and they had more money in their war chest, it's a safe bet Kansas would blow a wad of taxpayer cash on losing this case just to make a point.
 
2014-02-17 05:19:58 PM
Can we issue them nukes so at some point soon all the fighting will die down?
 
2014-02-17 05:22:01 PM

Kittypie070: Can we issue them nukes so at some point soon all the fighting will die down?


Send in a cat that got into the cheddar about 2 hrs earlier...
 
2014-02-17 05:22:28 PM

bdub77: thamike: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

It's finally happening.

Doubtful. The party is full of racist and homophobic scumbags, but they won't eat each other. The GOP is like a schizophrenic that achieves momentary sanity and then turns into Tyler Durdan with an emphasis on sport farking the American people.


I think they're just realizing that the population frowns on trying to legislate homophobia. It's not that they agree, but they want to keep their jobs.
 
2014-02-17 05:23:04 PM

Kittypie070: Can we issue them nukes so at some point soon all the fighting will die down?


theseventhart.files.wordpress.com

The satellite is at present over... Kansas. Well, if we destroy Kansas the world may not hear about it for years.
 
2014-02-17 05:26:25 PM

Grandiloquent Grapefruit: Perhaps there's still hope for Kansas after all... wait, no, who am I kidding, Sam Brownback is still governor, they're farked.


Maybe we'll get lucky and enough people will vote for Paul Davis to give him the election.

/is I'm not Sam Brownback enough to beat him?
 
2014-02-17 05:29:51 PM

propasaurus: fusillade762: Either that or they realized that someone would sue and it would be overturned. Not that that's ever stopped them before.

No, there's a certain element of them that WANT to be sued. They see themselves taking this righteously all the way up to the Supreme Court, where they'll be vindicated and their Christian religious freedom will forever be enshrined as law.


Ladies and gentlemen, I give you The Westboro Baptist Church.

Cynics have said that getting sued is their business model.
 
2014-02-17 05:31:14 PM
I wonder how the True Republicans in Kansas will respond to these rinos rinoing their rinoerism down their throats.
 
2014-02-17 05:41:50 PM
That's gonna require a Super Guppy fulla cats and about sixteen tractor-trailers of cheddar.
 
2014-02-17 05:43:16 PM

Kittypie070: That's gonna require a Super Guppy fulla cats and about sixteen tractor-trailers of cheddar.


Looks like the cat ate the quote.

/cheddar and a cat makes a grade 4 bio hazard
 
2014-02-17 05:43:17 PM

yakmans_dad: Ladies and gentlemen, I give you The Westboro Baptist Church Hobby Lobby.

 
2014-02-17 05:50:35 PM
Ah good.  Stupidity and bigotry ran into someone with some sense.
 
2014-02-17 05:52:08 PM

DORMAMU: Kittypie070: That's gonna require a Super Guppy fulla cats and about sixteen tractor-trailers of cheddar.

Looks like the cat ate the quote.

/cheddar and a cat makes a grade 4 bio hazard


0_o
 
2014-02-17 06:02:00 PM
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2014-02-17 06:06:01 PM
You know who else passed laws that "deviants" of various kinds couldn't hold all kinds of jobs, or go into restaurants, or shop in stores, or sell all kinds of products in their stores.

So this is a step back from "deviants who pose a threat to the Reich should be placed in 'protective custody' wink-wink in concentration camps," a line that this bill would have come perilously close to reaching.  The fact that this even saw the light of day is deeply disturbing, and tells me bad things will continue to come from Kansas.

I think they probably realized that this kind of bill not only had no chance of surviving a constitutional challenge, but in fact could have resulted in federal troops occuyping the state capital building so that some adult supervision could be put into place.

But they're still pushing gay marriage as the Versailles "stab-in-the-back" that threatens the Thousand Year Small Gubbmint.  They do, in fact, need adult supervision, and they need it badly.
 
2014-02-17 06:17:26 PM
they just wanted to avoid a SCOTUS smackdown.
 
2014-02-17 06:20:05 PM

Kibbler: You know who else passed laws that "deviants" of various kinds couldn't hold all kinds of jobs, or go into restaurants, or shop in stores, or sell all kinds of products in their stores.

So this is a step back from "deviants who pose a threat to the Reich should be placed in 'protective custody' wink-wink in concentration camps," a line that this bill would have come perilously close to reaching.  The fact that this even saw the light of day is deeply disturbing, and tells me bad things will continue to come from Kansas.

I think they probably realized that this kind of bill not only had no chance of surviving a constitutional challenge, but in fact could have resulted in federal troops occuyping the state capital building so that some adult supervision could be put into place.

But they're still pushing gay marriage as the Versailles "stab-in-the-back" that threatens the Thousand Year Small Gubbmint.  They do, in fact, need adult supervision, and they need it badly.


To be fair, those deviants were Irish.
 
2014-02-17 06:26:22 PM
Meanwhile, in Missouri:

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2014-02-17 06:31:31 PM

limeyfellow: Kibbler: You know who else passed laws that "deviants" of various kinds couldn't hold all kinds of jobs, or go into restaurants, or shop in stores, or sell all kinds of products in their stores.

So this is a step back from "deviants who pose a threat to the Reich should be placed in 'protective custody' wink-wink in concentration camps," a line that this bill would have come perilously close to reaching.  The fact that this even saw the light of day is deeply disturbing, and tells me bad things will continue to come from Kansas.

I think they probably realized that this kind of bill not only had no chance of surviving a constitutional challenge, but in fact could have resulted in federal troops occuyping the state capital building so that some adult supervision could be put into place.

But they're still pushing gay marriage as the Versailles "stab-in-the-back" that threatens the Thousand Year Small Gubbmint.  They do, in fact, need adult supervision, and they need it badly.

To be fair, those deviants were Irish.


Fair enough. My people probably should never be allowed out in public when above or below a certain level of intoxication.
/An Irishman is never drunk as long as he can hold onto a blade of grass and no fall off the Earth.
 
2014-02-17 06:34:53 PM

Grandiloquent Grapefruit: Perhaps there's still hope for Kansas after all... wait, no, who am I kidding, Sam Brownback is still governor, they're farked.


I was stationed at Fort Riley, Kansas with the Army's Big Red One.  The locals constantly spouted "Real American who don't need no government check or got time for liberal college eggheads" bullshiat, while running their SNAP cards at the local Wal-Mart to supplement the income that trickled down from Fort Riley or Kansas State University.
 
2014-02-17 06:37:33 PM
So Kansas stumbles and that leaves Idaho to grab the derp baton.
 
2014-02-17 06:42:00 PM

Grandiloquent Grapefruit: Perhaps there's still hope for Kansas after all... wait, no, who am I kidding, Sam Brownback is still governor, they're farked.


Kansas will be a hellhole as long as it's Kansas. Topeka (the state capital, about 40 miles west of Kansas City, MO) has  stopped the prosecution of domestic battery until 2015 because there's not enough money in the city budget to prosecute the cases. Kansas has been shutting off revenue streams since the 1980s in the form of tax cuts, mainly (but not completely) in order to attract businesses and residents from the Missouri side of Kansas City. It would appear as if it's finally catching up with them. They don't have the money to enforce basic laws against violent crime but are willing to draft up laws to discriminate against LGBT folks at the statehouse.
 
2014-02-17 06:47:27 PM

thamike: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

It's finally happening.


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Any excuse to post this pic.
 
2014-02-17 06:50:14 PM

LoneWolf343: bdub77: thamike: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

It's finally happening.

Doubtful. The party is full of racist and homophobic scumbags, but they won't eat each other. The GOP is like a schizophrenic that achieves momentary sanity and then turns into Tyler Durdan with an emphasis on sport farking the American people.

I think they're just realizing that the population frowns on trying to legislate homophobia. It's not that they agree, but they want to keep their jobs.


No, the population of Kansas loves the idea of legislating homophobia.  They just don't want to be seen doing it.  Like Baptists and beer.
 
2014-02-17 06:53:46 PM

Fart_Machine: So Kansas stumbles and that leaves Idaho to grab the derp baton.


Both Tennessee and Idaho are running with the derp baton. I don't have enough faith that Tennessee will stop this bill. There is some serious thick derp in that state.
 
2014-02-17 06:58:18 PM

Marine1: Grandiloquent Grapefruit: Perhaps there's still hope for Kansas after all... wait, no, who am I kidding, Sam Brownback is still governor, they're farked.

Kansas will be a hellhole as long as it's Kansas. Topeka (the state capital, about 40 miles west of Kansas City, MO) has  stopped the prosecution of domestic battery until 2015 because there's not enough money in the city budget to prosecute the cases. Kansas has been shutting off revenue streams since the 1980s in the form of tax cuts, mainly (but not completely) in order to attract businesses and residents from the Missouri side of Kansas City. It would appear as if it's finally catching up with them. They don't have the money to enforce basic laws against violent crime but are willing to draft up laws to discriminate against LGBT folks at the statehouse.


I used to work in the Pharma industry.  We couldn't attract big-time science talent to Lawrence, the smartest liberal part of the state, because Kansas dint like no evilushun.  The state of Kansas was trying to make Salina to Johnson County to St. Joe into a Animal Health Science corridor, attracting all sorts of bioscience/pharma companies - good idea, except nobody who knows science wants to be anywhere near here.

So we adopted a bronze-age attitude toward science and wonder why we can't increase the science industry in this place.  A scientist could figure it out, but where you gonna find one of them?
 
2014-02-17 07:55:45 PM

 "It is becoming increasingly clear to judges that if they rule against same-sex marriage their grandchildren will regard them as bigots,"



So, rulings based on personal preference instead of the letter of the law. How very activist.
 
2014-02-17 08:01:29 PM
They support "traditional marriage," Wagle noted, "however, my members also don't condone discrimination."

Well, which is it? Support "traditional marriage" (which, honestly, isn't that traditional at all, but let's leave that argument aside for now) or "don't condone discrimination", because the two are mutually exclusive.
 
2014-02-17 08:11:11 PM

Aquapope: Marine1: Grandiloquent Grapefruit: Perhaps there's still hope for Kansas after all... wait, no, who am I kidding, Sam Brownback is still governor, they're farked.

Kansas will be a hellhole as long as it's Kansas. Topeka (the state capital, about 40 miles west of Kansas City, MO) has  stopped the prosecution of domestic battery until 2015 because there's not enough money in the city budget to prosecute the cases. Kansas has been shutting off revenue streams since the 1980s in the form of tax cuts, mainly (but not completely) in order to attract businesses and residents from the Missouri side of Kansas City. It would appear as if it's finally catching up with them. They don't have the money to enforce basic laws against violent crime but are willing to draft up laws to discriminate against LGBT folks at the statehouse.

I used to work in the Pharma industry.  We couldn't attract big-time science talent to Lawrence, the smartest liberal part of the state, because Kansas dint like no evilushun.  The state of Kansas was trying to make Salina to Johnson County to St. Joe into a Animal Health Science corridor, attracting all sorts of bioscience/pharma companies - good idea, except nobody who knows science wants to be anywhere near here.

So we adopted a bronze-age attitude toward science and wonder why we can't increase the science industry in this place.  A scientist could figure it out, but where you gonna find one of them?


This is one of the big dangers of Republican 'small government' trains of thought:  not only are you going to dumb down the populace, but you're going to create several pits of economic despair in various rural parts of the nation because you really can't run a society that way.  So you breed a bunch of ill-educated people with no real future.  Where does that end up?

Bad, bad places.  And the Republicans are courting it because they want power.  They honestly think this will be a demon they can control.
 
2014-02-17 08:13:21 PM

snowshovel: "It is becoming increasingly clear to judges that if they rule against same-sex marriage their grandchildren will regard them as bigots,"

So, rulings based on personal preference instead of the letter of the law. How very activist.


You mean the law that recognizes marriage as a civil right, and requires that those rights be applied equally to all?
 
2014-02-17 08:28:10 PM

snowshovel: "It is becoming increasingly clear to judges that if they rule against same-sex marriage their grandchildren will regard them as bigots,"

So, rulings based on personal preference instead of the letter of the law. How very activist.


There has never been a "letter of the law" type situation when it came to same sex marriage.
 
2014-02-17 08:30:09 PM

Kome: They support "traditional marriage," Wagle noted, "however, my members also don't condone discrimination."

Well, which is it? Support "traditional marriage" (which, honestly, isn't that traditional at all, but let's leave that argument aside for now) or "don't condone discrimination", because the two are mutually exclusive.


I see no reason why you can't support traditional marriage and same-sex marriage.  They can name a day of the year "Traditional Marriages Are Best Day" and have a parade and everything.
 
2014-02-17 08:32:43 PM

Kome: They support "traditional marriage," Wagle noted, "however, my members also don't condone discrimination."

Well, which is it? Support "traditional marriage" (which, honestly, isn't that traditional at all, but let's leave that argument aside for now) or "don't condone discrimination", because the two are mutually exclusive.


Horse feathers!

I support real chili. I love it. I will only eat real chili. I will only make real chili. I will only serve real chili. Chili with beans is an abomination against FSM and nature. But, I won't ever try to stop you from eating it.

See how that works?
 
2014-02-17 08:46:48 PM

Aquapope: I used to work in the Pharma industry. We couldn't attract big-time science talent to Lawrence, the smartest liberal part of the state, because Kansas dint like no evilushun. The state of Kansas was trying to make Salina to Johnson County to St. Joe into a Animal Health Science corridor, attracting all sorts of bioscience/pharma companies - good idea, except nobody who knows science wants to be anywhere near here.

So we adopted a bronze-age attitude toward science and wonder why we can't increase the science industry in this place. A scientist could figure it out, but where you gonna find one of them?


Then what the fark is Kansas (Manhattan) doing getting  a big animal-disease research center?
 
2014-02-17 08:56:03 PM
The question is how many Kansas Republican state senators are up for re-election?  And who are their primary opponents?  Maybe in 2-3 election cycles we can primary enough teabaggers in to have this pass as the rest of the KS Senate has gone all RINO.

You can be sure the social conservatives in the state will not stand for this blasphemy.
 
2014-02-17 09:01:12 PM
This is Kansas. The republicans who killed the bill are "COMMIE TRATOR RINOS, OMG LYNCH'EM DEAD HERPADERPA HUMPERDOO!"
 
2014-02-17 09:06:14 PM
Can we ban divorce while we're at it?

And interracial marriage?

Miscegenation?
 
2014-02-17 09:08:53 PM
I keep reading these kinds of stories and thanking the state of MO that is was just sane enough to re-elect Jay Nixon for governor so we didn't have someone who would rubber-stamp every crackpot idea to come out of the MO Legislature in their attempt to make us East Kansas.
 
2014-02-17 09:18:52 PM

Gulper Eel: Aquapope: I used to work in the Pharma industry. We couldn't attract big-time science talent to Lawrence, the smartest liberal part of the state, because Kansas dint like no evilushun. The state of Kansas was trying to make Salina to Johnson County to St. Joe into a Animal Health Science corridor, attracting all sorts of bioscience/pharma companies - good idea, except nobody who knows science wants to be anywhere near here.

So we adopted a bronze-age attitude toward science and wonder why we can't increase the science industry in this place. A scientist could figure it out, but where you gonna find one of them?

Then what the fark is Kansas (Manhattan) doing getting  a big animal-disease research center?


It's a Federal facility.  Looks like the main reason they chose that site is for containment.
 
2014-02-17 10:14:40 PM

thamike: Complete fracturing and dissolving may be doubtful. But these guys have fundamentally destroyed their own party.
And yes, they will eat each other, just like they are now. You watch. One can't reconcile with the inconsolable, especially if the inconsolable are unreconciliable. That party is f*cked until they wise up. Wising up, in this case, will take some sloughing.


They already are.  The GOP in general and the Tea Party in particular define themselves by their enemies, and they are running out of enemies in Kansas.  No one will ever be ideologically pure enough for them.  They'll keep going until they've completely fractured themselves.  The only question is how much damage they'll do to everyone else on the way down.
 
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