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(Newser)   George Zimmerman now wears a bulletproof vest all the time, you know, in case someone shoots him for no reason   (newser.com) divider line 333
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2014-02-17 06:33:43 PM  

BeatrixK: The fact is...he craves the attention -- even if it's negative. But to whine and complain about all that your own stupidity has wrought, when you clearly have no intention of doing something different to change the course of the life your own ignorance has brought upon you is disingenuous.


Well, a comment i just wrote in a GOP thread applies here as well -- the mentally ill are not aware of their maladies.  Let's not pretend for a second this man doesn't have at least a couple of mental illnesses. my best guess would be sociopath with an anger management problem, but who really knows?

He clearly doesn't grasp that wanting to be left alone to live a normal life does not go hand in hand with doing interviews with the press claiming to be the true victim when we all know even though he was not found guilty of the charges against him, he's only known for killing an unarmed teenage boy who was smaller than he was. Who wasn't able to present his side of the story, due to being dead.  Maybe go and stay away from the media for awhile.  don't offer to "celebrity' (makes me want to throw up that he'd be considered a celebrity) box black men.  Things like that.  It might help.

But again, the insane are unaware of their maladies.
 
2014-02-17 06:34:06 PM  

Magnanimous_J: Any person should be able to question a stranger in their own neighborhood without expectation of bodily harm.


Normal people wouldn't find that sort of thing to be any of their business.

A vigilante with a chip on his shoulder, on the other hand...
 
2014-02-17 06:36:08 PM  
Magnanimous_J:

Personally, I think both of them were pieces of shiat in their own unique ways and I don't think the cure for cancer is going to die with either of them. But your (strangely common) comment has always baffled me. You make Martin out to be some kind of animal who couldn't be expected to keep his violent impulses at bay. Any person should be able to question a stranger in their own neighborhood without expectation of bodily harm. Does it make him an asshole? debatable, but it's victim blaming to assign guilt to Zimmerman for what was a completely lawful action. Martin taking offense to it doesn't excuse an assault, nor does it make Zimmerman's self defense any less legitimate.


Yes, I understand that. But Zimmerman now has the benefit of hindsight. And what I'm saying is...given what he now knows, is there anything he could've done to avoid what happened? That's what I'd like to ask him.

I'm not trying to absolve Martin of blame. If he lived and Zimmerman died, I'd ask him the same thing. Given what you know now...is there anything you could've done to avoid what happened? If Martin's answer was "I should've never gone to the store" it would also be a cop out, imo. Because it implies that he had no choices.

Full disclosure...in earlier Zimmerman threads a year ago, I flippantly posted that Martin should've stayed home. My thinking has evolved on this topic since then. There were other choices he could've made to avoid their confrontation as well.
 
2014-02-17 06:36:19 PM  

Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: offmymeds: Why his life is no longer "normal": He wears a bulletproof vest whenever he leaves his home-but he has no permanent abode. "I'm totally homeless." He hasn't had to collect welfare, and is willing to work as a cook if he has to, but he hasn't gotten to that point yet; he's being supported by his family.

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You fark. He shot someone who was pounding his head into the pavement. Even though you're a farkface I'd still support you if you shot someone who was pounding your head into the pavement. Would you support me if someone was pounding my head into the dust and I shot them? I hope so, so we can be BFF's.

That just depends on whether or not you had been stalking that person prior to them standing their ground against you.

I may be very drunk but even I know that's not true.


So Zimmerman wasn't following Martin around the neighborhood?
 
2014-02-17 06:36:30 PM  
Must suck to have to worry that some nutter with a gun may try to make your life their business.
 
2014-02-17 06:37:47 PM  

Rhaab: Oh_Enough_Already: [im41.com image 590x421]

He wouldn't have had to defend himself if he had left the farking kid alone, like the police told him to!


The 911 telephone operator saying "we don't need you to do that" = police telling you not to do it?
 
2014-02-17 06:39:57 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Magnanimous_J: Any person should be able to question a stranger in their own neighborhood without expectation of bodily harm.

Normal people wouldn't find that sort of thing to be any of their business.


How the hell do you identify a stranger in your neighborhood unless you are a total psychopath stalking  all your neighbors? I don't even know what my own neighbors look like -- aside from this one guy who used to yell and try to talk to me when I came home/left the house.  One of my boyfriends (the one who lives with me)  spoke to him three times about it before he finally stopped.  He told him more than once, "she is NOT going to respond, you're bothering and upsetting her, and it needs to stop"  I can only imagine what he said to ACTUALLY make it stop, though.
 
2014-02-17 06:41:03 PM  

Hobodeluxe: genner: Hobodeluxe: genner: Rhaab: Oh_Enough_Already: [im41.com image 590x421]

He wouldn't have had to defend himself if he had left the farking kid alone, like the police told him to!

It wasn't wise but following someone isn't  illegal. Beating some one up because you don't want them following you on the other hand.....

had Trayvon been packing and shot Zimmerman in the alley he could have easily gotten off on self defense. If he could have found an impartial jury.


So it's ok to shoot anyone who'se walking behind you?
Really?

a stranger following you home , in the dark,in the rain,a stranger with a gun who would not answer you when you approached his vehicle but rolled up the window and instead followed you in his vehicle and then on foot. yeah that's enough for me to say he had a reason to fear imminent danger.


So it made sense for Trayvon to return to confront the stranger after safely arriving to his destination? It's easy to argue something if you leave out the parts that don't support your argument.
 
2014-02-17 06:41:37 PM  

James10952001: Rhaab: Oh_Enough_Already: [im41.com image 590x421]

He wouldn't have had to defend himself if he had left the farking kid alone, like the police told him to!

The 911 telephone operator saying "we don't need you to do that" = police telling you not to do it?



How many years you spend pissing on a toilet seat before someone told you to put it up?
 
2014-02-17 06:41:51 PM  

serpent_sky: The My Little Pony Killer: Magnanimous_J: Any person should be able to question a stranger in their own neighborhood without expectation of bodily harm.

Normal people wouldn't find that sort of thing to be any of their business.

How the hell do you identify a stranger in your neighborhood unless you are a total psychopath stalking  all your neighbors? I don't even know what my own neighbors look like -- aside from this one guy who used to yell and try to talk to me when I came home/left the house.  One of my boyfriends (the one who lives with me)  spoke to him three times about it before he finally stopped.  He told him more than once, "she is NOT going to respond, you're bothering and upsetting her, and it needs to stop"  I can only imagine what he said to ACTUALLY make it stop, though.


Seriously. I live in a very busy neighborhood. If I were to question every person who walked by who I didn't personally know, I wouldn't have time in my day to get anything else done.

And your neighbor sounds disgusting.
 
2014-02-17 06:43:39 PM  

genner: I Browse: From TFA: He can't answer whether he regrets killing Trayvon: ...because of the DOJ's civil rights lawsuit. But he can share one regret. "My life would be tremendously easier if I had stayed home" that night.


While yes, I agree that Zimmerman's life would be easier if he stayed home that night...framing it that way is such a cop out. His life would've also been easier if he never called the cops in the first place. Or if he called the cops, but then left it up to them to investigate.

Zimmerman makes it sound like he encountered a completely unavoidable situation. This wasn't a traffic accident or getting struck with a bolt of lightening or something. He made choices which directly led to all of this. Can he not see that?

He's an absolute idiot. He still didn't break the law and he doesn't deserve mob justice.


This.

I would never be defending Zimmerman if there weren't so many people openly wishing him harm. So much butthurt, I hope for their sake they are never involved in a verdict that doesn't go the way a bunch of angry folks think it should.
 
2014-02-17 06:44:27 PM  
"This breaking news just in... Trayvon Martin is still dead!"

/lotta libby hate here for the z-man.
 
2014-02-17 06:45:05 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: offmymeds: Why his life is no longer "normal": He wears a bulletproof vest whenever he leaves his home-but he has no permanent abode. "I'm totally homeless." He hasn't had to collect welfare, and is willing to work as a cook if he has to, but he hasn't gotten to that point yet; he's being supported by his family.

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You fark. He shot someone who was pounding his head into the pavement. Even though you're a farkface I'd still support you if you shot someone who was pounding your head into the pavement. Would you support me if someone was pounding my head into the dust and I shot them? I hope so, so we can be BFF's.

That just depends on whether or not you had been stalking that person prior to them standing their ground against you.

I may be very drunk but even I know that's not true.

So Zimmerman wasn't following Martin around the neighborhood?


Oh, I must have forgotten the part where following someone was cause for attempted murder.
 
2014-02-17 06:46:17 PM  

doglover: DREW, seriously, fire this modmin.


You can't be serious.
 
2014-02-17 06:47:26 PM  

James10952001: You don't have to like him, hell you're allowed to hate him. You're not allowed to threaten or attack him though. The moment you do that, you're the one in the wrong.


Thank you citizen!

But that doesn't mean I'm obligated to give the slightest shi*t if his life is an unceasing parade of death threats and physical attacks. In fact, I'm allowed to hope the animal gets threatened and physically attacked every day until he commits suicide. I'm allowed to even express that hope in public forums like these!

And were I to serve on a jury for a person accused of threatening, attacking, or even killing Zimmerman, I would also be allowed to cast my vote however I saw fit. Whether or not I have a "right" to nullify wouldn't even come into issue were I to express any "not guilty" vote only in terms relating to a choice to believe or disbelieve pertinent evidence.

"I'm sorry. It just really seems to me like Officer Friendly is lying. In my experience people who express themselves the way he does just can't be trusted. I don't believe a word of his report. In fact, I'm pretty sure Zimmerman is still alive somewhere, menacing some black kid for holding a watering can or rolled up newspaper or something."
 
2014-02-17 06:47:36 PM  

genner: James10952001: here to help: b-b-but being found not guilty means everyone is supposed to love you forever and ever... just like everyone did with OJ.

Gosh people are big old meanies.

You don't have to like him, hell you're allowed to hate him. You're not allowed to threaten or attack him though. The moment you do that, you're the one in the wrong.

So I can't beat him up when I see him walking behind me?


Not unless he throws the first punch.
 
2014-02-17 06:48:33 PM  
I'm just SHOCKED that this man expects someone to just run up on him and shoot him without just cause...

Just...SHOCKED.
 
2014-02-17 06:48:45 PM  

Kujira: Oh_Enough_Already: [im41.com image 590x421]

Contrary to popular belief, it actually is possible to defend yourself without firing a gun at someone.

An even better method of defense is to not put yourself in a situation like that in the first place. Observe and report would have and should have been sufficient.


no seriously, as I mentioned previously, squeezing their eyes shut, trying not to shiat their pants as they blast anything and everything is the exact demographic we're talking about with these Gunsmateers. Why do you think they love guns so much? They wet the bed without them,

... and that's in peace time with clear skies. talkin' to you, rugged fark independents.
 
2014-02-17 06:49:07 PM  

Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: offmymeds: Why his life is no longer "normal": He wears a bulletproof vest whenever he leaves his home-but he has no permanent abode. "I'm totally homeless." He hasn't had to collect welfare, and is willing to work as a cook if he has to, but he hasn't gotten to that point yet; he's being supported by his family.

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You fark. He shot someone who was pounding his head into the pavement. Even though you're a farkface I'd still support you if you shot someone who was pounding your head into the pavement. Would you support me if someone was pounding my head into the dust and I shot them? I hope so, so we can be BFF's.

That just depends on whether or not you had been stalking that person prior to them standing their ground against you.

I may be very drunk but even I know that's not true.

So Zimmerman wasn't following Martin around the neighborhood?

Oh, I must have forgotten the part where following someone was cause for attempted murder.


You don't think that being followed around by a stranger would have made Martin feel threatened?
 
2014-02-17 06:49:27 PM  

Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: offmymeds: Why his life is no longer "normal": He wears a bulletproof vest whenever he leaves his home-but he has no permanent abode. "I'm totally homeless." He hasn't had to collect welfare, and is willing to work as a cook if he has to, but he hasn't gotten to that point yet; he's being supported by his family.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 266x285]

You fark. He shot someone who was pounding his head into the pavement. Even though you're a farkface I'd still support you if you shot someone who was pounding your head into the pavement. Would you support me if someone was pounding my head into the dust and I shot them? I hope so, so we can be BFF's.

That just depends on whether or not you had been stalking that person prior to them standing their ground against you.

I may be very drunk but even I know that's not true.

So Zimmerman wasn't following Martin around the neighborhood?

Oh, I must have forgotten the part where following someone was cause for attempted murder.


......or simple assault as the case may be. I don't believe Zimmerman's life was in danger but he had the right to stop Trayvon from beating the snot out of him.
 
2014-02-17 06:50:21 PM  

Baz744: James10952001: You don't have to like him, hell you're allowed to hate him. You're not allowed to threaten or attack him though. The moment you do that, you're the one in the wrong.

Thank you citizen!

But that doesn't mean I'm obligated to give the slightest shi*t if his life is an unceasing parade of death threats and physical attacks. In fact, I'm allowed to hope the animal gets threatened and physically attacked every day until he commits suicide. I'm allowed to even express that hope in public forums like these!

And were I to serve on a jury for a person accused of threatening, attacking, or even killing Zimmerman, I would also be allowed to cast my vote however I saw fit. Whether or not I have a "right" to nullify wouldn't even come into issue were I to express any "not guilty" vote only in terms relating to a choice to believe or disbelieve pertinent evidence.

"I'm sorry. It just really seems to me like Officer Friendly is lying. In my experience people who express themselves the way he does just can't be trusted. I don't believe a word of his report. In fact, I'm pretty sure Zimmerman is still alive somewhere, menacing some black kid for holding a watering can or rolled up newspaper or something."


Yeah, only Zimmerman can get away with making other people feel threatened, and then killing them for it! All you normal people should just suck it up and deal with it!
 
2014-02-17 06:52:34 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Magnanimous_J: Any person should be able to question a stranger in their own neighborhood without expectation of bodily harm.

Normal people wouldn't find that sort of thing to be any of their business.

A vigilante with a chip on his shoulder, on the other hand...


Normal people who had experienced a recent spree of burglaries in their neighborhood would.

If several houses on my street had been burglarized at night and I saw an unfamiliar person walking around at night, I'd sure as hell go talk to them, or follow to see what they're doing.
 
2014-02-17 06:54:57 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: offmymeds: Why his life is no longer "normal": He wears a bulletproof vest whenever he leaves his home-but he has no permanent abode. "I'm totally homeless." He hasn't had to collect welfare, and is willing to work as a cook if he has to, but he hasn't gotten to that point yet; he's being supported by his family.

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You fark. He shot someone who was pounding his head into the pavement. Even though you're a farkface I'd still support you if you shot someone who was pounding your head into the pavement. Would you support me if someone was pounding my head into the dust and I shot them? I hope so, so we can be BFF's.

That just depends on whether or not you had been stalking that person prior to them standing their ground against you.

I may be very drunk but even I know that's not true.

So Zimmerman wasn't following Martin around the neighborhood?

Oh, I must have forgotten the part where following someone was cause for attempted murder.

You don't think that being followed around by a stranger would have made Martin feel threatened?


No, I don't. I think you'll be hard pressed to find people here who would admit to feeling so threatened by maybe thinking someone was following them that smashing their head open on a pavement was an acceptable course of action.
 
2014-02-17 06:55:42 PM  

Baz744: 1) As someone above pointed out, he's almost certainly lying. There's no reason anyone would know who his doctor is... unless he's going around telling people.


It's always possible he's so unpopular that receptionist phoned it in on the side.. you'd want him in your office?

I wouldn't.
 
2014-02-17 06:56:37 PM  

genner: Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: offmymeds: Why his life is no longer "normal": He wears a bulletproof vest whenever he leaves his home-but he has no permanent abode. "I'm totally homeless." He hasn't had to collect welfare, and is willing to work as a cook if he has to, but he hasn't gotten to that point yet; he's being supported by his family.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 266x285]

You fark. He shot someone who was pounding his head into the pavement. Even though you're a farkface I'd still support you if you shot someone who was pounding your head into the pavement. Would you support me if someone was pounding my head into the dust and I shot them? I hope so, so we can be BFF's.

That just depends on whether or not you had been stalking that person prior to them standing their ground against you.

I may be very drunk but even I know that's not true.

So Zimmerman wasn't following Martin around the neighborhood?

Oh, I must have forgotten the part where following someone was cause for attempted murder.

......or simple assault as the case may be. I don't believe Zimmerman's life was in danger but he had the right to stop Trayvon from beating the snot out of him.


If I'm getting the snot best out of me, I'm not going to sit there and analyze whether my life is in danger, or just my face. I'm going to fight back by any means I can and ask questions later.
 
2014-02-17 06:56:43 PM  

James10952001: The My Little Pony Killer: Magnanimous_J: Any person should be able to question a stranger in their own neighborhood without expectation of bodily harm.

Normal people wouldn't find that sort of thing to be any of their business.

A vigilante with a chip on his shoulder, on the other hand...

Normal people who had experienced a recent spree of burglaries in their neighborhood would.

If several houses on my street had been burglarized at night and I saw an unfamiliar person walking around at night, I'd sure as hell go talk to them, or follow to see what they're doing.


Your white knighting certainly makes for a grand romantic gesture. But I still think the odds of Zimmerman having sex with you are pretty slim. Not because you don't deserve it, mind you. Your heroic defense here certainly warrants at least one good Zimmerman lay. It's just that I don't think he's likely to read this thread, and if he does, to get enough of your personal information to find you to deliver your reward.
 
2014-02-17 06:57:39 PM  

Somacandra: FTFA: "I'd like to professionally ... continue my education and hopefully become an attorney...He says anyone he interacts with-say, his doctor-ends up getting death threats.

If this is true, it is not cool. At all. I shouldn't get a death threat just because he happens to enroll as a student in one of my classes, for example.


We're living in the age of the Internet Tough Guy. If you tweet something mean about Justin Bieber, you will get thousands of "death threats." This does not mean your life is in any peril.
 
2014-02-17 06:58:01 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Baz744: James10952001: You don't have to like him, hell you're allowed to hate him. You're not allowed to threaten or attack him though. The moment you do that, you're the one in the wrong.

Thank you citizen!

But that doesn't mean I'm obligated to give the slightest shi*t if his life is an unceasing parade of death threats and physical attacks. In fact, I'm allowed to hope the animal gets threatened and physically attacked every day until he commits suicide. I'm allowed to even express that hope in public forums like these!

And were I to serve on a jury for a person accused of threatening, attacking, or even killing Zimmerman, I would also be allowed to cast my vote however I saw fit. Whether or not I have a "right" to nullify wouldn't even come into issue were I to express any "not guilty" vote only in terms relating to a choice to believe or disbelieve pertinent evidence.

"I'm sorry. It just really seems to me like Officer Friendly is lying. In my experience people who express themselves the way he does just can't be trusted. I don't believe a word of his report. In fact, I'm pretty sure Zimmerman is still alive somewhere, menacing some black kid for holding a watering can or rolled up newspaper or something."

Yeah, only Zimmerman can get away with making other people feel threatened, and then killing them for it! All you normal people should just suck it up and deal with it!


There is a difference between making someone feel threatened and sending them death threats.
 
2014-02-17 07:00:55 PM  

James10952001: genner: Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: offmymeds: Why his life is no longer "normal": He wears a bulletproof vest whenever he leaves his home-but he has no permanent abode. "I'm totally homeless." He hasn't had to collect welfare, and is willing to work as a cook if he has to, but he hasn't gotten to that point yet; he's being supported by his family.

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You fark. He shot someone who was pounding his head into the pavement. Even though you're a farkface I'd still support you if you shot someone who was pounding your head into the pavement. Would you support me if someone was pounding my head into the dust and I shot them? I hope so, so we can be BFF's.

That just depends on whether or not you had been stalking that person prior to them standing their ground against you.

I may be very drunk but even I know that's not true.

So Zimmerman wasn't following Martin around the neighborhood?

Oh, I must have forgotten the part where following someone was cause for attempted murder.

......or simple assault as the case may be. I don't believe Zimmerman's life was in danger but he had the right to stop Trayvon from beating the snot out of him.

If I'm getting the snot best out of me, I'm not going to sit there and analyze whether my life is in danger, or just my face. I'm going to fight back by any means I can and ask questions later.


Cut out the caffeine and read my comment again I'm still agreeing with you that Zimmerman's actions were justified. I was just preempting the inevitable argument that would come up from Zimmerman's wounds not being life threatening.
 
2014-02-17 07:01:03 PM  

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I bet you believe that rainbow parties are happening all around you. Or most likely you're just a troll.

2/10
 
2014-02-17 07:01:59 PM  
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2014-02-17 07:02:31 PM  
Thread tl;dr

Anyone make telling point(s) re: guns~peni?

Phrases that cause me to immediately stop reading:

"I can't for the life of me imagine ..."
"Why in the world would you ..."
"What in God's name were you thinking when..."

//girly, libby.
 
2014-02-17 07:02:43 PM  
I did say that ol' Fat Ass would end up a twitching neurotic mess eventually.  He'll suicide or end up in a police stand-off before it's all over.
 
2014-02-17 07:03:07 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Let's discuss THE FACTS of this interview.

George Zimmerman was just wanting to be left alone when the drive-by, lamestream MSM mainstream media TRICKED him into giving an interview.  Poor George only wants to be left alone, to watch his neighborhood in peace, but the media won't let that happen.

As further proof, the media is now making him say stupid things AND they're filming the entire thing with cameras and reporting it through their lamestream media outlets.  George just wants to be left alone and box DMX in peace.

Is there no end to the depravity of the liberal media?


All he wants to do is create his art. Which he creates, creatively, using his imagination and skills with a paintbrush and not at all by printing out 'shopped photos. Why do the lamestream media hate art?
 
2014-02-17 07:04:41 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Seriously. I live in a very busy neighborhood. If I were to question every person who walked by who I didn't personally know, I wouldn't have time in my day to get anything else done.

And your neighbor sounds disgusting.


yep - i am on a busy street with a bus route through it.

And the neighbor is creepy as hell.  The first time he was asked politely to leave me alone, he said he was "lonely".  As if that is my problem.  it's amazing what people can do to frighten and intimidate other people. I used to make sure i had a small baton on me when I left/came home in case the creep moved in on me. That's the reality for some people - a lot of women feel threatened enough to always be on the defense.  i am sure black teenagers feel the same way a lot of the time.
 
2014-02-17 07:09:20 PM  

sobriquet by any other name: Baz744: 1) As someone above pointed out, he's almost certainly lying. There's no reason anyone would know who his doctor is... unless he's going around telling people.

It's always possible he's so unpopular that receptionist phoned it in on the side.. you'd want him in your office?

I wouldn't.


It's possible. But I also know people who work in health care live in daily terror of HIPAA. It's a paper tiger, but they don't know that. I doubt very many receptionists would be willing to take that kind of risk.

Any event, we don't have any evidence of it. And Zimmerman has a history of making self-serving false statements. So the best inference is that he's just lying to win sympathy from people stupid enough to believe him.

When Zimmerman wants to paint Trayvon as suspicious while on the phone with police:

"He ran."

Later,  when Zimmerman realized Trayvon running suggested the boy feared him, which could legally work against him:

"Ran? Who said he ran? I sure as hell didn't! He didn't run! He skipped gayly away evincing not the slightest awareness of this world's illusory trifles!"

Other of Zimmerman's Greatest Hits:

"What? Stand Your Ground? Is that like a video game or a band or something? I've never heard of that. I swear!"

Zimmerman had taken and earned an A in a college course with a unit on Stand Your Ground. He was obsessed with personal defense, becoming a police officer, and even patrolling his own neighborhood for unarmed black teenagers. He took martial arts classes. He carried a firearm with him daily. He knew exactly what SYG was, and it was in the forefront of his mind).

"The dispatcher instructed me to get in a place where I could see Trayvon! Yeah, that's it! That's the ticket!"

The dispatcher said no such thing at any time. In fact, quite famously, the dispatcher said almost exactly the opposite.
 
2014-02-17 07:09:59 PM  

Baz744: Somacandra: FTFA: "I'd like to professionally ... continue my education and hopefully become an attorney...He says anyone he interacts with-say, his doctor-ends up getting death threats.

If this is true, it is not cool. At all. I shouldn't get a death threat just because he happens to enroll as a student in one of my classes, for example.

1) As someone above pointed out, he's almost certainly lying. There's no reason anyone would know who his doctor is... unless he's going around telling people.

2) In that case, he's a massive asshole for publicizing information like who his doctor is, knowing full well when he does so that his doctor might receive death threats.

3) It's wise to avoid all contact with him whatsoever under any circumstances though. If he's telling the truth, why would you want to make yourself a target? If he's lying, he's not only a child killer, but a dishonest crook playing on the compassion of good people for personal gain. Either way, it's best to shun him.


When has George Zimmerman ever said anything that checked out as truthful? I don't pay that much attention to him, but I do see the occasional "Zimmerman rips off stock photo; claims it's an original painting" story. As far as I can tell, he's a pathological liar with lots of other fun sociopathic tendencies.
 
2014-02-17 07:10:01 PM  

Thunderpipes: George is an American hero. He saved so many future victims with a single shot. Shot rang out with the sound of justice.

I mean, he shot a violent, drug dealing young man who attacked him. He did what every single one of your people would actually do if it happened to you. Obama should give him a medal, after all, if Obama had a son, he would look like George.


Yeah! That ought to piss off some libs.

Farkin libs. I hate them so much.
 
2014-02-17 07:15:39 PM  

fibmcgee1: "This breaking news just in... Trayvon Martin is still dead!"

/lotta libby hate here for the z-man.


stay classy, cons.
 
2014-02-17 07:16:18 PM  

Diogenes: Seems it's not sufficient that he was found not guilty.

And yes, a smarter man would count his blessings and keep a low profile.


Neither worked well for OJ.

/he was so lo-pro he was playing at all-white country clubs
 
2014-02-17 07:17:29 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: The My Little Pony Killer: Slaxl: offmymeds: Why his life is no longer "normal": He wears a bulletproof vest whenever he leaves his home-but he has no permanent abode. "I'm totally homeless." He hasn't had to collect welfare, and is willing to work as a cook if he has to, but he hasn't gotten to that point yet; he's being supported by his family.

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You fark. He shot someone who was pounding his head into the pavement. Even though you're a farkface I'd still support you if you shot someone who was pounding your head into the pavement. Would you support me if someone was pounding my head into the dust and I shot them? I hope so, so we can be BFF's.

That just depends on whether or not you had been stalking that person prior to them standing their ground against you.

I may be very drunk but even I know that's not true.

So Zimmerman wasn't following Martin around the neighborhood?

Oh, I must have forgotten the part where following someone was cause for attempted murder.

You don't think that being followed around by a stranger would have made Martin feel threatened?


I've been followed so many times...at night and in inclement weather (the scariest was by a group of young men through an abandoned playground on a snowy Thanksgiving), in cars, on foot. I used to live in Chicago (once in a gang neighborhood) and now I live in a state where there is no permit requirement for CC so the likelihood that one of those people was packing is pretty high. Are you saying I would have been correct to turn and start a physical altercation with those people? I always ran away out of fear of getting robbed or raped or the unknown, including the off chance that it was all in my head, but maybe I was mistaken and I would have been right to try bash their brains in just to be sure.

Do you think that being followed for a few blocks should even be considered stalking? Personally I think it's an insult to the people who actually have to get restraining orders against stalkers due to real threats of violence.

Anyway, Zimmerman won his case based on the evidence provided. Not only should the violence threatening loonies get some ointment for their butthurt and move on, but so should Fark. This constant parade of Zim stories on the main page is ridiculous.
 
2014-02-17 07:17:31 PM  

mbillips: When has George Zimmerman ever said anything that checked out as truthful? I don't pay that much attention to him, but I do see the occasional "Zimmerman rips off stock photo; claims it's an original painting" story. As far as I can tell, he's a pathological liar with lots of other fun sociopathic tendencies.


Telling astonishing, easily disprovable lies actually is a marker for sociopathy.

"The dispatcher told me to get into a place where I could see him."

"He ran."

"Ran? I never meant to say he ran. Rather he... ranted... yeah that's the ticket! He ranted about how he hates white people! That's why I thought he was suspicious!"
 
2014-02-17 07:25:37 PM  

elysive: Anyway, Zimmerman won his case based on the evidence provided.


Zimmerman's apologists make too much of his acquittal. It does not mean the man is actually innocent. It just means the state failed to meet its burden of proof.

So let's say a juror interprets "beyond a reasonable doubt" to mean "98% or higher chance of guilt." That juror would acquit even if he believed guilt to a 97% certainty.

As members of the public, we retain the right to believe Zimmerman is guilty.

It occurs to me though, would it make sense to add another option to "guilty" and "not guilty?" What if the options were "guilty," "guilt not sufficiently proven," and "actually innocent?"

Something to think about.
 
2014-02-17 07:26:52 PM  
"Waah, it's unfair that I was put on trial just for killing an unarmed black kid without witnesses in a confrontation that I escalated without cause and was warned not to engage by the police. So what if the verdict was entirely in my favor, leaving me a free man? Such a miscarriage of justice."

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2014-02-17 07:26:59 PM  
"I'd like to professionally ... continue my education and hopefully become an attorney. I think that's the best way to stop the miscarriage of justice that happened to me from happening to somebody else."

For this comment alone, this shiatstain should be smashed in the groin with a sack of ball bearings nonstop for the rest of his life.
 
2014-02-17 07:28:08 PM  
serpent_sky:  That's the reality for some people - a lot of women feel threatened enough to always be on the defense.  i am sure black teenagers feel the same way a lot of the time.

Like the white disabled vet in Cleveland a few day ago assaulted by 6-8 (redacted) teenagers on an RTA bus. Because they felt threatened. </sarcasm>

Thankfully videoed by one of the assailants.

Z-man: judged by 12.
Trayvon: carried by 6.

I know what side of the equation I'd choose.

/close your eyes and live the dream world
 
2014-02-17 07:29:34 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: fibmcgee1: "This breaking news just in... Trayvon Martin is still dead!"

/lotta libby hate here for the z-man.

stay classy, cons.


Missing SNL creference? Tsk.
 
2014-02-17 07:30:48 PM  

groppet: Well Georgie, first you should probably move the fark outta Florida to some small town with very few minorities and live a quiet life. But you cant do that for some reason ya big dummy. Maybe him and Casey Anthony can get a reality show together to see who gets killed first.


Lol! You made me spit out my soda!
 
2014-02-17 07:32:23 PM  

elysive: Are you saying I would have been correct to turn and start a physical altercation with those people?


There's no credible evidence Trayvon started the physical altercation either. Hardly anyone thinks Trayvon was justified in turning around and randomly beating Zimmerman just for following him. Rather, the theory is that Trayvon did exactly what Zimmerman claimed to have been doing in investigating a suspicious character. A fight somehow broke out.

The thing Trayvon's defamers forget is because Zimmerman was armed with a loaded firearm, any altercation that broke out was potentially lethal for Trayvon. That means Trayvon had the right to use lethal force in his own defense; even unto the point of bashing Zimmerman's head until he lost consciousness or died.

Oh yeah. I forgot. Black kids don't have the right to defend themselves. This is America!
 
2014-02-17 07:32:53 PM  
I'm curious how many Farkers in this thread who feel entitled to their own facts about the Zimmerman/Martin case similarly feel entitled to their own facts regarding that McDonald's hot coffee spill.
 
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