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2014-02-17 03:37:11 PM  
Somacandra:
img.fark.net
It's not just about infroming....

Man, that kid really wants to eat that bug...
 
2014-02-17 03:47:28 PM  

jake_lex: The whole point of the article can be summed up with this JPEG:

[churchandstate.org.uk image 425x367]


"Infromed" has always caught the attention on this sign, but did you notice "Yes God Bless Amercia"?  Did Mittens write this?
 
2014-02-17 03:48:38 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Can -ghazi be the suffix to every scandal now? -gate is getting old


As stated in an earlier thread, -gate is for a real scandal, -ghazi is for fake scandals.

Ergo, Bridgegate.
 
2014-02-17 03:49:25 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Oh, by the by, do you politically-minded farkers know when and how the phrase "Worse than Watergate" really got moving (recently, anyway)? The title of a 2004 book by John Dean about George W Bush's ascendance to the presidency and mismanagement of the country once he got there.

John Dean, who was Nixon's WH counsel - so he might know a thing or two more about Watergate than most of us keyboard activists, and therefore carries a bit of weight - was Barry Goldwater's protege, and wrote two follow-ups (Conservatives Without Conscience, a great takedown of the 2006-era Republican party of Katrina, Schiavo and Social Security privatization; and Broken Government, about the genesis of the still-continuing gumming up of the machinery of government) excoriating the right for farking up governing and governance, largely as tit-for-tat over Watergate (Cheney, Rumsfeld and many other Bushies were former Nixonites).

// they tried to pin the Watergate coverup on Dean at first


Bush's presidency is probably among the three worst in American history.  He took a country with a budgetary surplus and foreign threats under control and transformed it into a security state victim of preventable terror, helped plunge it into a vast recession, and helped incite Republicans into a frothing-at-the-mouth, liberals-are-Devils rage at anything resembling comity and bipartisan government.

Fox News was there every step of the way.

/eh.  It still pisses me off.
 
2014-02-17 03:50:51 PM  
no, they can't, hope that helps
 
2014-02-17 03:54:04 PM  

Cletus C.: Seriously, they're giving MSNBC and Maddow credit for exposing and giving truth to the Christie scandal? That's a stretch, saying a few dozen viewers helped sink his barge.


It's not that FoxNews viewers can't handle the truth, it's just that the truth doesn't agree with their narrative, a narrative that is based off of fear and loathing of their fellow man.  So, yes, obviously, your funny about MSNBC (which has been told many times by many FarkCons as some evidence - of what - that more retards choose lies and bullsh*t than the alternative) means something, it means that MSNBC can't claim credit for this solely.  It must be the rest of the liberal media!

You'd be get on the red herring signal, Cletus!  Unite against the scourge of the liberal media!
 
2014-02-17 03:58:24 PM  

coeyagi: Cletus C.: Seriously, they're giving MSNBC and Maddow credit for exposing and giving truth to the Christie scandal? That's a stretch, saying a few dozen viewers helped sink his barge.

It's not that FoxNews viewers can't handle the truth, it's just that the truth doesn't agree with their narrative, a narrative that is based off of fear and loathing of their fellow man.  So, yes, obviously, your funny about MSNBC (which has been told many times by many FarkCons as some evidence - of what - that more retards choose lies and bullsh*t than the alternative) means something, it means that MSNBC can't claim credit for this solely.  It must be the rest of the liberal media!

You'd be get on the red herring signal, Cletus!  Unite against the scourge of the liberal media!


Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic. The Christie scandal was pursued with vigor by the "mainstream" media. If it had just been Maddow most people would never have heard or just chalked it up to another of her rants.

But then again, I have no idea what the fark you're talking about so there's that.
 
2014-02-17 04:00:48 PM  

Cletus C.: coeyagi: Cletus C.: Seriously, they're giving MSNBC and Maddow credit for exposing and giving truth to the Christie scandal? That's a stretch, saying a few dozen viewers helped sink his barge.

It's not that FoxNews viewers can't handle the truth, it's just that the truth doesn't agree with their narrative, a narrative that is based off of fear and loathing of their fellow man.  So, yes, obviously, your funny about MSNBC (which has been told many times by many FarkCons as some evidence - of what - that more retards choose lies and bullsh*t than the alternative) means something, it means that MSNBC can't claim credit for this solely.  It must be the rest of the liberal media!

You'd be get on the red herring signal, Cletus!  Unite against the scourge of the liberal media!

Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic. The Christie scandal was pursued with vigor by the "mainstream" media. If it had just been Maddow most people would never have heard or just chalked it up to another of her rants.

But then again, I have no idea what the fark you're talking about so there's that.


That's not how the news media works. Every major outlet jumps on anything juicy ASAP, and celebrity scandal is their bread and butter. It wouldn't have mattered who broke the story.
 
2014-02-17 04:01:56 PM  

Cletus C.: Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic. The Christie scandal was pursued with vigor by the "mainstream" media. If it had just been Maddow most people would never have heard or just chalked it up to another of her rants.

But then again, I have no idea what the fark you're talking about so there's that.


coeyagi: So, yes, obviously, your funny about MSNBC (which has been told many times by many FarkCons as some evidence - of what - that more retards choose lies and bullsh*t than the alternative)


No sh*t, sherlock.  You have no idea that I was agreeing with you and giving you a reason for it?

FFS, man, it's time to start blaming yourself for your lack of reading comprehension.  I write for a living and still get a paycheck for it, so it's time to start wondering about the man in the mirror.
 
2014-02-17 04:06:17 PM  
They can't make Benghazi stick because they can't tie the murderous acts of terrorists back to Obama/Clinton.

I think people grasp that Obama didn't attack that embassy, and that though it was bad, bad shiat happens in Muslim countries undergoing revolutions.

Whereas with the bridge thing you have a pretty clear link between Christie Administration --> Wildstein --> Bridge Closures thanks to that magic email.
 
2014-02-17 04:09:50 PM  

JavierLobo: They can't make Benghazi stick because they can't tie the murderous acts of terrorists back to Obama/Clinton.

I think people grasp that Obama didn't attack that embassy, and that though it was bad, bad shiat happens in Muslim countries undergoing revolutions.

Whereas with the bridge thing you have a pretty clear link between Christie Administration --> Wildstein --> Bridge Closures thanks to that magic email.


But but but Benghazi is still real to me!  If Issa wants answers, Obama had better give them to Issa!  I mean, either Obama has a time machine and can fix this - OR - he could give a famous interview where he makes a plea to FUTURE TIME TRAVELERS to go back and fix Benghazi.  That way, in the year 2248 or something, the future time travelers will stumble across the plea from Obama and happily oblige!
 
2014-02-17 04:10:51 PM  

coeyagi: Cletus C.: Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic. The Christie scandal was pursued with vigor by the "mainstream" media. If it had just been Maddow most people would never have heard or just chalked it up to another of her rants.

But then again, I have no idea what the fark you're talking about so there's that.

coeyagi: So, yes, obviously, your funny about MSNBC (which has been told many times by many FarkCons as some evidence - of what - that more retards choose lies and bullsh*t than the alternative)

No sh*t, sherlock.  You have no idea that I was agreeing with you and giving you a reason for it?

FFS, man, it's time to start blaming yourself for your lack of reading comprehension.  I write for a living and still get a paycheck for it, so it's time to start wondering about the man in the mirror.


They pay for Penthouse Forum letters?
 
2014-02-17 04:17:20 PM  
Benghazi is to scandal as Creationism is to science.

Faith based belief systems.
 
2014-02-17 04:18:07 PM  

coeyagi: FFS, man, it's time to start blaming yourself for your lack of reading comprehension.  I write for a living and still get a paycheck for it, so it's time to start wondering about the man in the mirror.


Self-blame? That's not the conservative way of things! It's everyone else's fault Cletus is wrong!
 
2014-02-17 04:19:55 PM  
I wonder to what extent dedicated Fox viewers realize that Fox is trying to manufacture scandals  but go on to rationalize it as necessary to combat the lies invented by the liberal media.
 
2014-02-17 04:21:25 PM  
lh6.ggpht.com


aka

The FOX that cried Benghazi
 
2014-02-17 04:23:08 PM  

Cletus C.: coeyagi: Cletus C.: Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic. The Christie scandal was pursued with vigor by the "mainstream" media. If it had just been Maddow most people would never have heard or just chalked it up to another of her rants.

But then again, I have no idea what the fark you're talking about so there's that.

coeyagi: So, yes, obviously, your funny about MSNBC (which has been told many times by many FarkCons as some evidence - of what - that more retards choose lies and bullsh*t than the alternative)

No sh*t, sherlock.  You have no idea that I was agreeing with you and giving you a reason for it?

FFS, man, it's time to start blaming yourself for your lack of reading comprehension.  I write for a living and still get a paycheck for it, so it's time to start wondering about the man in the mirror.

They pay for Penthouse Forum letters?


Well, that wasn't bad, but I am going to now assume every time you deflect, in other words every response to me, you are in effect admitting you have no defense for my criticisms, be they about your lying or poor reading comprehension.
 
2014-02-17 04:25:48 PM  
Gee.. Oh look... a cheerleader of the (left/right) is telling us how the other side is.....
////facepalm
 
2014-02-17 04:28:45 PM  
Only some Americans can, unfortunately.  A lot of Americans are farking stupid.  Then again, the more people who finally realize that Fox News is not really telling the truth, even when the truth is absolutely plain to see, the better.
 
2014-02-17 04:34:14 PM  

Cletus C.: Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic.


I love how Conservatives value ratings over accuracy in their news sources.
 
2014-02-17 04:35:17 PM  

Bartman66: Gee.. Oh look... a cheerleader of the (left/right) is telling us how the other side is.....
////facepalm


I know.  Both sides are bad.  But the libs are worse than Waterghazigatepot dome.
 
2014-02-17 04:36:59 PM  

The Why Not Guy: Cletus C.: Actually, I was referring to the fact MSNBC's viewership is pathetic.

I love how Conservatives value ratings over accuracy in their news sources.


Huh? Listen bub, Community is getting hammered in the ratings by Big Bang Theory and American Farking Idol. That's the outrage!
 
2014-02-17 04:37:36 PM  
It would have been fun to see how FOX would have covered Watergate.
 
2014-02-17 04:39:43 PM  

Bermuda59: It would have been fun to see how FOX would have covered Watergate.


Water Under the Bridge Gate?
Administration Slimdown?
 
2014-02-17 04:39:56 PM  
Americans can recognize the difference between making up wall to wall coverage of a scandal by every major news network and covering one up.

FTFY, smitty.

The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.

As for Benghazi, you all can stop now.  We get it.  You don't care why Americans were in put harm's way, why they were killed, or why you were lied to about who did the killing.  You don't care that the administration has refused to allow Congress to investigate those questions on your behalf.  You don't care that the killers remain at large.  It's a fake scandal because, well, "What difference, at this point, does it make?"  We understand you quite clearly.  CLINTON 2016!
 
2014-02-17 04:41:55 PM  

Garet Garrett: Americans can recognize the difference between making up wall to wall coverage of a scandal by every major news network and covering one up.

FTFY, smitty.

The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.

As for Benghazi, you all can stop now.  We get it.  You don't care why Americans were in put harm's way, why they were killed, or why you were lied to about who did the killing.  You don't care that the administration has refused to allow Congress to investigate those questions on your behalf.  You don't care that the killers remain at large.  It's a fake scandal because, well, "What difference, at this point, does it make?"  We understand you quite clearly.  CLINTON 2016!


Oh boy.
 
2014-02-17 04:44:11 PM  

Cletus C.: Huh? Listen bub, Community is getting hammered in the ratings by Big Bang Theory and American Farking Idol. That's the outrage!


And Fox News trounces MSNBC in the ratings, yet Fox viewers seem less infromed.
 
2014-02-17 04:44:59 PM  

Bermuda59: It would have been fun to see how FOX would have covered Watergate.


I'm not certain they would have.
 
2014-02-17 04:45:59 PM  
I'll just put this here...
 
2014-02-17 04:48:21 PM  

Garet Garrett: The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.


Sure, if you start counting IRS coverage on July 1st, two months after the story broke, two weeks after the IRS testified the WH was not involved, and one week after it was shown that groups with 'progressive' and 'occupy' in their names were also targeted.

Do you enjoy being lied to or do you just not care?
 
2014-02-17 04:48:31 PM  
The headline reminds me of that Dustin Hoffman/Robert Di Nero movie about covering up a scandal with a fake war.
 
2014-02-17 04:48:34 PM  
Well lets see, Benghazi didn't prevent Obama's reelection why the fark would continuing to cover it produce results 4 years later
 
2014-02-17 04:48:34 PM  

Garet Garrett: Americans can recognize the difference between making up wall to wall coverage of a scandal by every major news network and covering one up.

FTFY, smitty.

The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.

As for Benghazi, you all can stop now.  We get it.  You don't care why Americans were in put harm's way, why they were killed, or why you were lied to about who did the killing.  You don't care that the administration has refused to allow Congress to investigate those questions on your behalf.  You don't care that the killers remain at large.  It's a fake scandal because, well, "What difference, at this point, does it make?"  We understand you quite clearly.  CLINTON 2016!


Hear hear.  In all my years of non-partisan, dispassionate observation of the political process, I have never seen such a blatantly partisan and fact-free response to an issue as that of the libtards trying to shield their POTUS and SECSTATE from whatever it was that it is suggested they did that was blatantly scandalous in Benghazi.
 
2014-02-17 04:49:04 PM  

The Why Not Guy: Cletus C.: Huh? Listen bub, Community is getting hammered in the ratings by Big Bang Theory and American Farking Idol. That's the outrage!

And Fox News trounces MSNBC in the ratings, yet Fox viewers seem less infromed.


Fox viewers are well informed. Perhaps misinformed but that's a form of informed.
 
2014-02-17 04:50:16 PM  
Whoopsie!

www.mugsysrapsheet.com
 
2014-02-17 04:50:52 PM  

The Why Not Guy: Bermuda59: It would have been fun to see how FOX would have covered Watergate.

I'm not certain they would have.


Eh, just find the John Birch broadsheets from the mid-late 70s. That's what Fox would have done.
 
2014-02-17 04:51:01 PM  

mrshowrules: Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

How was Benghazi a scandal?


It just was.
 
2014-02-17 04:53:19 PM  
thanksforkeepingusinfromed.jpg

This will blow your mind:

That picture was taken in Austin, Texas.
Yes, that person lives in the People's Republic of Austin.
 
2014-02-17 04:53:40 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-02-17 04:54:24 PM  

The Why Not Guy: Bermuda59: It would have been fun to see how FOX would have covered Watergate.

I'm not certain they would have.


They would have, but they would have been telling us all about how it was McGovern's fault.
 
2014-02-17 04:56:28 PM  

Bermuda59: It would have been fun to see how FOX would have covered Watergate.


"And there is absolutely no evidence President Nixon was ever anywhere near the Watergate..."
 
2014-02-17 04:58:24 PM  

mrshowrules: Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

How was Benghazi a scandal?


It is scandalous that people are politicizing a tragic event to try to manipulate elections. The fact that it didn't work for the 2012 election, but they are still pushing it for 2016 is pretty scandalously stupid.
 
2014-02-17 05:04:48 PM  

Garet Garrett: The liberal news networks that people actually watch had 17x more coverage of BridgeGate in 24 hours than of the IRS scandal in over 6 months.


You mean the one where a Bush-appointee said the White House had nothing to do with what the Cincinnati office was doing? You are correct that there is a scandal there - but it has more to do with the fact that anti-tax groups somehow do not expect more attention when they try to say they are non-taxable public service groups.

Garet Garrett: As for Benghazi, you all can stop now. We get it. You don't care why Americans were in put harm's way, why they were killed, or why you were lied to about who did the killing. You don't care that the administration has refused to allow Congress to investigate those questions on your behalf. You don't care that the killers remain at large. It's a fake scandal because, well, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" We understand you quite clearly. CLINTON 2016!


No, we just do not understand how an act of terrorism is different than a terrorist act. We also don't like it when people use dead bodies of Americans for no reason other than to win elections, and smirk about it at the same time. It's funny how all the various congressional investigations into Benghazi count the same as none to you.
 
2014-02-17 05:05:20 PM  

DeaH: It is scandalous that people are politicizing a tragic event to try to manipulate elections. The fact that it didn't work for the 2012 election, but they are still pushing it for 2016 is pretty scandalously stupid.


And yet, libs are letting the DemocRats get away with it.
 
2014-02-17 05:05:56 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-17 05:06:04 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Can -ghazi be the suffix to every scandal now? -gate is getting old


How about -gate for real scandals and -ghazi for manufactured RW poutrage?
 
2014-02-17 05:11:21 PM  

Skleenar: And yet, libs are letting the DemocRats get away with it.


Please, go on... I'd love to hear this one.
 
2014-02-17 05:18:41 PM  

coeyagi: Doktor_Zhivago: Can -ghazi be the suffix to every scandal now? -gate is getting old

As stated in an earlier thread, -gate is for a real scandal, -ghazi is for fake scandals.

Ergo, Bridgegate.


I thought it was 10 gates to the ghazi.
 
2014-02-17 05:19:52 PM  

Kevin72: mrshowrules: Skleenar: Well, sure, but if Hillary was involved in any real scandals, like Benghazi, then she'd be toast for the nomination.

How was Benghazi a scandal?

Because it was worse than Watergate, that's why.


Well, to be fair, what I saw of Bob Dole's apartment at the Watergate on TV, it looked pretty nice.  So it's sort of easy for Benghazi to not be as nice.

Did you hear about bedbug problems or something?
 
2014-02-17 05:20:43 PM  

The Why Not Guy: Please, go on... I'd love to hear this one.


Pssst... you've got a hook in your mouth.
 
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