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2014-02-17 02:01:30 PM  
will post to Geek

Yeah, because you know all the geeks are on the verge of trying heroin and need that one last reminder not to do it.
 
2014-02-17 02:11:43 PM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: will post to Geek

Yeah, because you know all the geeks are on the verge of trying heroin and need that one last reminder not to do it.


That is odd, and a shame because this does highlight a number of features of heroin use I'd not heard of.  It strips away some of the scary hype and then back-fills it with even scarier stuff, if you ask me.
 
2014-02-17 02:18:56 PM  
factoryconnection:
That is odd, and a shame because this does highlight a number of features of heroin use I'd not heard of.  It strips away some of the scary hype and then back-fills it with even scarier stuff, if you ask me.

I saw it this morning and it answered a question I've had for a long time:  Exactly how does a heroin addict get there?  Well, at least it lays out one man's path, I'm sure every junkie has their story.
 
2014-02-17 02:20:55 PM  

nekom: I saw it this morning and it answered a question I've had for a long time: Exactly how does a heroin addict get there? Well, at least it lays out one man's path, I'm sure every junkie has their story.


I knew that it was based on an amazing high and significant change in perception of pain, emotion, and mood.  It makes a lot more sense that there would be a seemingly-innocuous build-up phase to addiction, though, with the sh*tty parts kicking in after it is too late psychologically to easily quit.
 
2014-02-17 02:27:14 PM  
Yay!  First green light :)

/subby
 
2014-02-17 02:30:57 PM  
Since there's not exactly an FDA for hard drugs

Yes, there is. It's called the FDA.
Oh, you meant illegal drugs.
 
2014-02-17 02:33:18 PM  
I knew all of this, but I've worked harm reduction before.
 
2014-02-17 02:33:38 PM  
For some real heroin experiences (text, probably NSFW)
 
2014-02-17 02:46:16 PM  
Opiates make me incredibly nauseous. I guess I am both lucky and cursed. Lucky my addiction potential is basically nil. Cursed because opiates are pretty much all their is for late-game pain management.
 
2014-02-17 02:54:26 PM  

Mister Buttons: Yay!  First green light :)

/subby


Celebrate with a blunt or a beer, not heroin
 
2014-02-17 02:57:14 PM  

Prophet of Loss: Opiates make me incredibly nauseous. I guess I am both lucky and cursed. Lucky my addiction potential is basically nil. Cursed because opiates are pretty much all their is for late-game pain management.


Nausea is one of those things they don't tell you about. It's normal to boot when high. The aversion to vomiting is easily overcome, so you're not safer than anyone else. If you need pain management good luck and I'm sorry you are suffering.
 
2014-02-17 02:57:42 PM  
A fairly serious article on Cracked?

I must be high.
 
2014-02-17 03:00:27 PM  
As a junkie, this may be the first main stream thing I've read regarding being an addict that is close to be being correct.
 
2014-02-17 03:01:28 PM  
Here's my reason: as a 17 yr-old, I watched the hottest chick I'd ever seen shoot up at a party.  She was a model, just beautiful.  I could not believe how much she just totally lost control of her body.  At one point, I thought that she'd died (but it was apparently a "normal" trip for her).  I'd call it one tiny level above a coma.  No thanks.  I'll stick to alcohol, weed, cocaine (if I know the source) and assorted hallucinogenics.
 
2014-02-17 03:03:06 PM  
I'm surprised they left out the constipation part that opiates cause and the "fun" that occurs with your bowels when you go through withdrawal.

However, even without that there is a whole lot of NOPE associated with heroin.
 
2014-02-17 03:10:23 PM  
Never tried H, and doubt I ever will. But I did have a substantial IV dose of Demerol a couple of times... and I can easily understand how that sort of thing could become a serious habit.

I went from "Fark! I feel so farking awful make it stop noooooooooooowwww!" all the way to "I just love everybody in this room so much...even the biatchy ER nurse!"  in less than 3 minutes.
 
2014-02-17 03:11:25 PM  

hammettman: I'll stick to alcohol, weed, cocaine (if I know the source) and assorted hallucinogenics.


A likely source for cocaine:

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
cdn.c.photoshelter.comwww.deamuseum.org
 
2014-02-17 03:14:33 PM  
I abused some opiates for 3 days once.  The tolerance profile was astounding.  It literally doubled within 3 days.  That was enough for me to never use them again.

I'll save them for when I eventually end up in a hospital.
 
2014-02-17 03:23:44 PM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: will post to Geek

Yeah, because you know all the geeks are on the verge of trying heroin and need that one last reminder not to do it.


on the verge? shiat, that's breakfast. On workdays only, of course.
 
2014-02-17 03:29:33 PM  
We need more stories that humanize people with addiction stories as opposed to the caricatures we usually get. Who wants to admit they've become an example used to shame others? Every human can screw up their life, but not all mistakes have to be permanent. Making large changes to one's behavior with help is daunting enough, when you try to do it alone out of a sense of shame it becomes Herculean. IMHO

/thanks subs
 
2014-02-17 03:31:14 PM  

gfid: hammettman: I'll stick to alcohol, weed, cocaine (if I know the source) and assorted hallucinogenics.

A likely source for cocaine:

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[cdn.c.photoshelter.com image 850x567][www.deamuseum.org image 700x438]


Yeah, same goes for weed, I only get mine from a few acquaintances that actually grow it themselves, best I can do to make sure it's not cut with some shait, plus I'm all for supporting the local economy and not some drug cartel that slaughters people indiscriminately.  Good luck trying to buy coke with a clear conscience.
 
2014-02-17 03:32:01 PM  

mutterfark: We need more stories that humanize people with addiction stories as opposed to the caricatures we usually get. Who wants to admit they've become an example used to shame others? Every human can screw up their life, but not all mistakes have to be permanent. Making large changes to one's behavior with help is daunting enough, when you try to do it alone out of a sense of shame it becomes Herculean. IMHO

/thanks subs


This
 
2014-02-17 03:38:46 PM  

mutterfark: We need more stories that humanize people with addiction stories as opposed to the caricatures we usually get. Who wants to admit they've become an example used to shame others? Every human can screw up their life, but not all mistakes have to be permanent. Making large changes to one's behavior with help is daunting enough, when you try to do it alone out of a sense of shame it becomes Herculean. IMHO

/thanks subs


Meanwhile, in Maine, the governor has refused to pay for EMTs to stock a life-saving OD medication, because addicts aren't worth saving, and it might "encourage" people to do heroin if they know their friendly neighborhood EMTs will save them.

Those are the official reasons given by Governor LePage.

// you know, because you go home happy as a clam after getting your ticker kickstarted
// and addicts are well-known for doing cost-benefit analyses right before spiking
 
2014-02-17 03:39:33 PM  

dennysgod: gfid: hammettman: I'll stick to alcohol, weed, cocaine (if I know the source) and assorted hallucinogenics.

A likely source for cocaine:

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 261x193]
[cdn.c.photoshelter.com image 850x567][www.deamuseum.org image 700x438]

Yeah, same goes for weed, I only get mine from a few acquaintances that actually grow it themselves, best I can do to make sure it's not cut with some shait, plus I'm all for supporting the local economy and not some drug cartel that slaughters people indiscriminately.  Good luck trying to buy coke with a clear conscience.


Weed is almost never 'cut' with anything.  Even synthetic weed costs more than regular weed.

If someone soaked your weed with formaldehyde or PCP they will more than likely tout that fact and charge you more for it.

But cartels apparently do make most of their money from cannabis... but if you're toking choice nugs it's very unlikely it came from outside your state let alone your country.
 
2014-02-17 03:42:10 PM  
Dr Dreidel:

Meanwhile, in Maine, the governor has refused to pay for EMTs to stock a life-saving OD medication, because addicts aren't worth saving, and it might "encourage" people to do heroin if they know their friendly neighborhood EMTs will save them.

Those are the official reasons given by Governor LePage.

// you know, because you go home happy as a clam after getting your ticker kickstarted
// and addicts are well-known for doing cost-benefit analyses right before spiking


WTactualF!? I guess all you can say to that is, 'Christ, what an a**hole.'
 
2014-02-17 03:54:02 PM  
I have an older friend that was part of the NY counter culture scene in the 60's and 70's (Warhol's factory and all that).  He still has nightmares about the methadone clinic, they were sold a great big fat lie and ended up being even worst junkies than when they were shooting smack.  They start you off with huge doses and get you hooked quick, the whole thing is a racket and nobody that works at these clinics care one way or another about getting you cured, they just want you coming back for more.
 
2014-02-17 03:54:27 PM  

mutterfark: WTactualF!? I guess all you can say to that is, 'Christ, what an a**hole.'


Gov LePage would rather hire more agents and expand drug courts, because those save more lives than actual life-saving drugs, apparently.

http://www.npr.org/2014/02/16/277709553/its-proven-to-save-lives-so- wh y-is-maine-opposed-to-narcan

// it was on fark a week or two ago, too
 
2014-02-17 03:54:31 PM  
dennysgod:
Yeah, same goes for weed, I only get mine from a few acquaintances that actually grow it themselves, best I can do to make sure it's not cut with some shait, plus I'm all for supporting the local economy and not some drug cartel that slaughters people indiscriminately.  Good luck trying to buy coke with a clear conscience.

I get my coke from a guy up in the mountains, he only makes small batches using locally sourced coca.  He's pretty underground.
 
2014-02-17 03:54:33 PM  

dennysgod: Good luck trying to buy coke with a clear conscience.


Yeah this. Which sucks, because it's pretty much awesome otherwise.
 
2014-02-17 03:58:15 PM  
I'm sold sign me up for heroin! Where do I get my needle and spoon from?
 
2014-02-17 03:58:18 PM  
As someone with an incredibly addictive personality that forces me to stay away from the "hard" addictive things, this is exactly what I thought heroin did to people.
 
2014-02-17 03:58:24 PM  
That actually seemed like a good reason to try Heroin.

I mean, the guy basically says he had lots of issues and was using daily for a while before he had any problems.
 
2014-02-17 04:03:14 PM  
Fark opiates. fark opiates so hard that they get fired into the sun. I hope to see us develop a better way to manage pain one day.
 
2014-02-17 04:04:43 PM  

Dr Dreidel: mutterfark: WTactualF!? I guess all you can say to that is, 'Christ, what an a**hole.'

Gov LePage would rather hire more agents and expand drug courts, because those save more lives than actual life-saving drugs, apparently.

http://www.npr.org/2014/02/16/277709553/its-proven-to-save-lives-so- wh y-is-maine-opposed-to-narcan

// it was on fark a week or two ago, too


I sometimes skip stories like that in an effort to prevent a stroke. It's not "tough love", it's "smug sadism" IMHO.
 
2014-02-17 04:06:13 PM  

groppet: I'm sold sign me up for heroin! Where do I get my needle and spoon from?


You DO realize this will lead you down a dark road to writing Cracked articles and other forms of absolute failure, don't you?
 
2014-02-17 04:10:31 PM  
Artie Lange was talking about his pathway to heroin addiction...I think perhaps on Jay Mohr's podcast. If I recall, he mentioned that he was taking a LOT of Vicodin (60-80/day I think) and he ran out, was going through withdrawal, and was scheduled to play a club...the club owner saw him sweating, asked him what he needed to get on stage, Artie said 30 Vicodin...and the club owner told him that much Tylenol in the Vicodin was bad for his liver and suggested heroin instead.
 
2014-02-17 04:11:59 PM  

dennysgod: gfid: hammettman: I'll stick to alcohol, weed, cocaine (if I know the source) and assorted hallucinogenics.

A likely source for cocaine:

[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 261x193]
[cdn.c.photoshelter.com image 850x567][www.deamuseum.org image 700x438]

Yeah, same goes for weed, I only get mine from a few acquaintances that actually grow it themselves, best I can do to make sure it's not cut with some shait, plus I'm all for supporting the local economy and not some drug cartel that slaughters people indiscriminately.  Good luck trying to buy coke with a clear conscience.


What do they cut weed with? Oregano? Grass clippings?

If your weed can be cut with either of those without you noticing, you need to find better weed.
 
2014-02-17 04:14:26 PM  

mutterfark: It's not "tough love", it's "smug sadism" IMHO.


QFT

// the GOP's social platform, that is
 
2014-02-17 04:16:22 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: Never tried H, and doubt I ever will. But I did have a substantial IV dose of Demerol a couple of times... and I can easily understand how that sort of thing could become a serious habit.

I went from "Fark! I feel so farking awful make it stop noooooooooooowwww!" all the way to "I just love everybody in this room so much...even the biatchy ER nurse!"  in less than 3 minutes.


I made the nurse laugh because I was convinced I was going to fall THROUGH the hospital bed. On the other hand, it did make me forget about my defective appendix.
 
2014-02-17 04:22:36 PM  

aevorea: On the other hand, it did make me forget about my defective appendix.


Defective appendix... obliterated gall bladder... Demerol just laughs at these things. And not a smug laugh, either, but a really happy laugh.
 
2014-02-17 04:27:12 PM  
I had no idea that such a foppish and jocular Irish comedian was ever addicted to heroin!

/Otherwise, got nothing.
 
2014-02-17 04:31:29 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: That actually seemed like a good reason to try Heroin.

I mean, the guy basically says he had lots of issues and was using daily for a while before he had any problems.


yeah, but his problems went from my mommy didn't hug me enough, to my prison cellmate is hugging me too much


good trade
 
2014-02-17 04:41:04 PM  
Sure, if you're not about to snuff it from cancer, heroin's a bad idea. But I have to think it wouldn't be quite as bad an issue if we followed some Mexican wisdom.
 
2014-02-17 04:43:47 PM  
I like the part where he said his weener would go off if touched by a faint breeze.
 
2014-02-17 04:59:07 PM  
This is my anti-heroin:

img.fark.net
 
2014-02-17 05:05:11 PM  
3 orgasms every thirty seconds for weeks?

i21.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-17 05:13:32 PM  

bk3k: A fairly serious article on Cracked?

I must be high.


They been doing these types of articles as of lately
 
2014-02-17 05:15:04 PM  

hammettman: cocaine (if I know the source)


All coke comes from cartels.  There is no other source.  It comes from guys who indiscriminately use rape, torture, and the murder of children as weapons to control their distribution.  So enjoy your high but know that doing it is contributing to a child getting murdered, a judge getting assassinated, a man's wife getting raped in the middle of the night, a poor fisherman getting murdered after smuggling product because a bullet is cheaper than the $200 he was promised.
 
2014-02-17 05:17:12 PM  

bk3k: groppet: I'm sold sign me up for heroin! Where do I get my needle and spoon from?

You DO realize this will lead you down a dark road to writing Cracked articles and other forms of absolute failure, don't you?


At least it isn't Buzzfeed.
 
2014-02-17 05:26:27 PM  

meanmutton: a poor fisherman getting murdered after smuggling product because a bullet is cheaper than the $200 he was promised.


Sounds like they understand cost savings...

Perhaps they should be in charge of the US financial system.
 
ecl
2014-02-17 05:30:54 PM  
Cracked > Slate.
 
2014-02-17 05:34:01 PM  

ecl: Cracked > Slate.


I'm a rather moderate guy who leans to the right on a lot of issues.  I generally really enjoyed Slate for the longest time.  Two things happened recently that I dislike: 1) The new site redesign is absolutely terrible. 2) Someone noticed how much traffic Amanda Marcotte drives so they've encouraged some of their other writers to take on her professional trolling style.

Still a better site than most of the political commentary out there, though.
 
2014-02-17 05:35:46 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Meanwhile, in Maine, the governor has refused to pay for EMTs to stock a life-saving OD medication, because addicts aren't worth saving, and it might "encourage" people to do heroin if they know their friendly neighborhood EMTs will save them.


Somebody should have told him he could use Naloxone to precipitate withdrawal symptoms, ergo he could use it to torture  junkies.

He'd have liked that.
 
2014-02-17 05:38:30 PM  

Reverend J: I'm surprised they left out the constipation part that opiates cause and the "fun" that occurs with your bowels when you go through withdrawal.

However, even without that there is a whole lot of NOPE associated with heroin.


both times I had surgery I was given Morphine during recovery.   No relief from the pain and constipation.
 
2014-02-17 05:38:50 PM  

meanmutton: Still a better site than most of the political commentary out there, though.


To be fair so wetdogturdsinthegrass.com would be a better site than more of the political commentary sits.
 
2014-02-17 05:39:18 PM  

meanmutton: hammettman: cocaine (if I know the source)

All coke comes from cartels.  There is no other source.  It comes from guys who indiscriminately use rape, torture, and the murder of children as weapons to control their distribution.  So enjoy your high but know that doing it is contributing to a child getting murdered, a judge getting assassinated, a man's wife getting raped in the middle of the night, a poor fisherman getting murdered after smuggling product because a bullet is cheaper than the $200 he was promised.


As they say, the lap dance is better when the stripper is crying
 
2014-02-17 05:45:12 PM  

aevorea: Mr_Fabulous: Never tried H, and doubt I ever will. But I did have a substantial IV dose of Demerol a couple of times... and I can easily understand how that sort of thing could become a serious habit.

I went from "Fark! I feel so farking awful make it stop noooooooooooowwww!" all the way to "I just love everybody in this room so much...even the biatchy ER nurse!"  in less than 3 minutes.

I made the nurse laugh because I was convinced I was going to fall THROUGH the hospital bed. On the other hand, it did make me forget about my defective appendix.


I snapped my fibia and tibia, and they attempted to force their way out of my skin.

Now the gas and air made me find this utterly hilarious.

The morphine on the other had, I could have quite happily gone dancing on that leg.

/4 days on a self-serving morphine IV. Bliss.
//Going to the toilet the first time after coming off it. Not bliss.
///Like a babies arm it was
 
2014-02-17 05:48:02 PM  

madgordy: both times I had surgery I was given Morphine during recovery. No relief from the pain and constipation.


If morphine didn't help the pain you're either pharmacological strong against painkillers genetically, which is a thing, or you were in A LOT of pain and it couldn't dull all of it.

I had a kidney stone. Morphine saved my life.
 
2014-02-17 05:51:23 PM  

Egoy3k: dennysgod: Good luck trying to buy coke with a clear conscience.

Yeah this. Which sucks, because it's pretty much awesome otherwise.


This! I would actively seek out a dime on the weekends if it wasn't produced by south american warlords and cut with a russian roulette cocktail of chemical compounds.
 
2014-02-17 05:51:39 PM  
Or just watch Trainspotting. Some people say it glorifies heroin use but in reality everyone who uses it in the movie is farked, including Renton who is a thief and a loser. Proven even more so in the sequel "Porno". And I like watching Trainspotting. It really is an anti-heroin movie.
 
2014-02-17 05:52:01 PM  
Additional CSB.

An ex-housemate of mine, he's immune to morphine.

I saw a doctor shoot him up with God knows how much and it didn't touch the pain at all. The doctor basically said that he couldn't give him any more as he was right up against overdose levels.

It's weird to see a 6ft 10 guy almost in tears because of the pain, having had enough morphine to bring down a horse with no effect on the guy whatsoever.

/Stupid doctor wouldn't let me have it instead :-(
 
2014-02-17 06:01:49 PM  
Everything I needed to know to NOT try heroin I first watched in this movie and later read in much greater detail in this book:

www.movieposterdb.com

/also, Scotland was colonized by wankers
 
2014-02-17 06:02:53 PM  
Oh FFS...

files.list.co.uk
 
2014-02-17 06:05:29 PM  
You dont quit heroin. Heroin quits you.
 
2014-02-17 06:21:56 PM  
madgordy:

both times I had surgery I was given Morphine during recovery.   No relief from the pain and constipation.


I've woken up three times during surgical procedures. No meds help THAT sort of misery, let me tell you.

/I'm told that I told the doctor, "Do your worst, I'll never tell."
//Which just goes to prove I've watched way too many spy movies.
 
2014-02-17 06:23:38 PM  
Heroin high is like totally overrated, dude.  I call it a "dirty nap".

Good for a nice, painless death, though.
So it's got that goin' for it.
 
2014-02-17 06:33:18 PM  
I knew two people that OD'ed on heroin.  Funerals for folks under the age of 23 are enough of a deterrent for me.  I'd much rather drink myself to death, it takes longer.
 
2014-02-17 06:45:34 PM  
4 more
i.cdn.turner.com
www.nepr.net
www.moviesteve.com
static.guim.co.uk
An outstanding member of their profession was seriously injured in an auto accident in 1933 and became addicted to morphine before he was 14 years old.  The doctors got him off morphine and on to heroin.  He was an addict until his death.  He was such an outstanding player when he was using that these 4, and many others, thought that one had to get high on heroin in order to perform at such high levels.  Three of them got clean and lived long lives.  One wrote about she was in awe of another, and not of the other's voice, but of the fact she "cooked up" using tuna can.  One of them taught a master's class that I had the great fortune to take.  I got him hooked into making his own reeds.

Drugs are bad, M'kay?
 
2014-02-17 06:47:23 PM  

doglover: madgordy: both times I had surgery I was given Morphine during recovery. No relief from the pain and constipation.

If morphine didn't help the pain you're either pharmacological strong against painkillers genetically, which is a thing, or you were in A LOT of pain and it couldn't dull all of it.

I had a kidney stone. Morphine saved my life.


I have a pretty high tolerance for painkillers (unfortunately). I was given morphine after spinal fusion surgery and it barely did anything. I vaguely remember being half conscious and sobbing in pain for over an hour before they finally decided to add some ketamine to the morphine drip.

Still didn't bring the pain down as much as I would have liked, but at least it was tolerable.

Man the first few days after that surgery were rough.
 
2014-02-17 06:57:26 PM  
Informal survey:  for the folks mentioning resistance to the painkilling effects of opiates:  was the person with the resistance to opiates in the story a redhead?

I remember reading on fark some years back that red hair is linked to weird pain responses.
 
2014-02-17 06:59:15 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-17 07:06:38 PM  
#3 seems like a carpel tunnel preventative. why is that BAD?
 
2014-02-17 07:11:36 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Informal survey:  for the folks mentioning resistance to the painkilling effects of opiates:  was the person with the resistance to opiates in the story a redhead?

I remember reading on fark some years back that red hair is linked to weird pain responses.


I know there's a correlation to eye color where blue/light eyed people have higher drug tolerances than dark eyed people.

I don't know anything about correlation to hair color.
 
2014-02-17 07:29:58 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Informal survey:  for the folks mentioning resistance to the painkilling effects of opiates:  was the person with the resistance to opiates in the story a redhead?

I remember reading on fark some years back that red hair is linked to weird pain responses.


Well Im a ginger and Im a lightweight for opiates. Like a shot of morphine and Im watching the birds on the wall paper move around and tweet.
 
2014-02-17 07:30:29 PM  
Opiates are scary, and awesome.  The best way I can describe how I feel on them is "happy".  I've never done H or anything illegal on the opiate side though, but I did have a moderate addiction to Vicodin after living on the stuff for 7+ weeks.

I was in a motorcycle crash, and completely pulverized my wrist.  I mean my hand was literally dangling there, and I had to scoop it up with my other hand.  The ambulance guys hit me with some Morphine during my ride to the hospital.  When I was waiting for the surgeon to show up, the nurse wheeled out this Chinese finger-cuff looking thing that was dangling from what looked like an IV stand.  He said I had to put my fingers in the cuff things, and let the weight of my arm start to pull my wrist back into shape.  I started laughing my ass off, and said "you better hook up the Morphine before I'll even consider that".  He said "don't worry, I'll hook you up".

He hit me with some IV Morphine, and asked "how's that"?  I said it was OK, but I wasn't there yet.  He hit me again, and I melted into the hospital bed, and gave him my arm, and said go for it.  Freaking amazing stuff.  When I woke up from surgery I was on a Morphine pump.  Mmmmmmm.  I figured out the intervals when it would let me run the pump (I could hear it run), and just sat there and watched the clock, pressing the button every 10 minutes or so

All I have to say is DAMN.  Good stuff.  It made me itchy though, so the nurse shot some Benadryl into my IV.  Knocked me out cold.  They put an external fixator instead of a cast because my wrist couldn't move at all while it healed.  I lived on extra strength Vicodin the whole time, and I'd have to take 2 at a time just to numb the pain enough to sleep for 4 hours.  Woke up, popped 2 more and slept for 4 more hours.  Popped them at work too.  When I finally stopped taking them I got the shakes, and would have panic attacks sometimes.  I NEEDED more Vicodin.  That part wasn't fun.  At all.  I know this is a long, pointless story.  I guess my point is I can absolutely see why people get addicted to that stuff.  I'll just stick to my weed now.  :)
 
2014-02-17 07:43:59 PM  
Hey, at least its not krokodil!
 
2014-02-17 07:50:42 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Informal survey:  for the folks mentioning resistance to the painkilling effects of opiates:  was the person with the resistance to opiates in the story a redhead?

I remember reading on fark some years back that red hair is linked to weird pain responses.


I have red hair,green eyes and pale skin but I don't have a resistance to opiates,I have a resistance to medications that are supposed to numb you. It takes a lot more to make me numb than it does for a normal person,my dentist called me a farking weirdo over it.
 
2014-02-17 07:56:33 PM  

Ned Stark: Hey, at least its not krokodil!


People who try krokodil never get a chance to write about it, I think.
 
2014-02-17 08:13:17 PM  

A Terrible Human: Bonzo_1116: Informal survey:  for the folks mentioning resistance to the painkilling effects of opiates:  was the person with the resistance to opiates in the story a redhead?

I remember reading on fark some years back that red hair is linked to weird pain responses.

I have red hair,green eyes and pale skin but I don't have a resistance to opiates,I have a resistance to medications that are supposed to numb you. It takes a lot more to make me numb than it does for a normal person,my dentist called me a farking weirdo over it.


This may be a stupid question, seeing how this is Fark and all... but do you drink too much? Drinking makes numbing agents lose their oomph.
 
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2014-02-17 08:21:21 PM  

crotchgrabber: A Terrible Human: Bonzo_1116: Informal survey:  for the folks mentioning resistance to the painkilling effects of opiates:  was the person with the resistance to opiates in the story a redhead?

I remember reading on fark some years back that red hair is linked to weird pain responses.

I have red hair,green eyes and pale skin but I don't have a resistance to opiates,I have a resistance to medications that are supposed to numb you. It takes a lot more to make me numb than it does for a normal person,my dentist called me a farking weirdo over it.

This may be a stupid question, seeing how this is Fark and all... but do you drink too much? Drinking makes numbing agents lose their oomph.


YOU"RE THE ALCOHOLIC!!@1111!
 
2014-02-17 08:28:40 PM  
 Meh...this does sound close to it...I would add moving. I just moved and lost all my good connections....now weekends suck so bad.
 
2014-02-17 08:35:18 PM  
Here's one good reason to try heroin. The first time you use it it is like you're floating on a big fluffy pink tinged cloud and you are just lying there and watching the world go by in stop motion.

It doesn't get better than that. In fact, it gets pretty bad, but the first time is so good you keep chasing that high
 
2014-02-17 09:24:59 PM  

meanmutton: hammettman: cocaine (if I know the source)

All coke comes from cartels.  There is no other source.  It comes from guys who indiscriminately use rape, torture, and the murder of children as weapons to control their distribution.  So enjoy your high but know that doing it is contributing to a child getting murdered, a judge getting assassinated, a man's wife getting raped in the middle of the night, a poor fisherman getting murdered after smuggling product because a bullet is cheaper than the $200 he was promised.


So what do you think, would it be smarter to change the laws and take that business away from the cartels, or rely on dopers developing a conscience?
 
2014-02-17 09:54:21 PM  

Alexei Novikov: Fark opiates. fark opiates so hard that they get fired into the sun. I hope to see us develop a better way to manage pain one day.


We have it already, but you might not like it.

Convince yourself that it feels good.  If the pain is bad enough, it gets to be so intense that your brain can't really comprehend it, so convincing yourself that it's pleasurable is actually easier than if it were more mild.

Anything that chemically affects the pain receptors, used chronically, will have long term effects on your neurochemistry.  This is the downside of the neurological adaptability that is humans' great strength.

/or you can try ignoring it, but that's harder
 
2014-02-17 09:57:38 PM  

Prophet of Loss: Opiates make me incredibly nauseous. I guess I am both lucky and cursed. Lucky my addiction potential is basically nil. Cursed because opiates are pretty much all their is for late-game pain management.


They do that to me at first, and then I get used to it.  (Surgery 10 or so years ago, was given Vicodin, and then kidney stone surgery stuff last week, they gave me Percocet)
 
2014-02-17 10:01:33 PM  

doglover: madgordy: both times I had surgery I was given Morphine during recovery. No relief from the pain and constipation.

If morphine didn't help the pain you're either pharmacological strong against painkillers genetically, which is a thing, or you were in A LOT of pain and it couldn't dull all of it.

I had a kidney stone. Morphine saved my life.


My only experience with opiates was similar to madgordy's.  The pain was still there.  The only difference was that it felt like my brain was softened a bunch.  I watched football voluntarily.  Like, *watched* it.  And threw up a bunch.  So I figured, what's the point of taking the rest of my prescription?  I'd rather re-read The Godfather and keep my food down if I still have to deal with having had my jollies torn asunder and stapled back together.
 
2014-02-17 10:07:04 PM  

Thingster: Bonzo_1116: Informal survey:  for the folks mentioning resistance to the painkilling effects of opiates:  was the person with the resistance to opiates in the story a redhead?

I remember reading on fark some years back that red hair is linked to weird pain responses.

I know there's a correlation to eye color where blue/light eyed people have higher drug tolerances than dark eyed people.

I don't know anything about correlation to hair color.


My hair fades auburn and my eyes are half blue, wtf does that mean?

/besides being some weird genetic mutant
 
2014-02-17 10:09:13 PM  

meanmutton: hammettman: cocaine (if I know the source)

All coke comes from cartels.  There is no other source.  It comes from guys who indiscriminately use rape, torture, and the murder of children as weapons to control their distribution.  So enjoy your high but know that doing it is contributing to a child getting murdered, a judge getting assassinated, a man's wife getting raped in the middle of the night, a poor fisherman getting murdered after smuggling product because a bullet is cheaper than the $200 he was promised.


That's the law's fault. People need drugs. People will get those drugs. You can understand that lesson we learned in bloody lessons all over Chicago's streets in the 30s, or you can forget that the moral "high ground" is actually an amoral position that always causes the same unregulated black markets to form.

When was the last time someone was murdered for a bottle of booze? A cigar? A cup of coffee? A chocolate bar? We learned with those drugs.
 
2014-02-17 10:17:11 PM  

Mister Peejay: doglover: madgordy: both times I had surgery I was given Morphine during recovery. No relief from the pain and constipation.

If morphine didn't help the pain you're either pharmacological strong against painkillers genetically, which is a thing, or you were in A LOT of pain and it couldn't dull all of it.

I had a kidney stone. Morphine saved my life.

My only experience with opiates was similar to madgordy's.  The pain was still there.  The only difference was that it felt like my brain was softened a bunch.  I watched football voluntarily.  Like, *watched* it.  And threw up a bunch.  So I figured, what's the point of taking the rest of my prescription?  I'd rather re-read The Godfather and keep my food down if I still have to deal with having had my jollies torn asunder and stapled back together.


Opiates don't kill pain signals.

They make pain and change it from signal to noise. Sober, you're sitting there with an injury and it hurts and you can't not writhe in agony. It's pressing. With opiates, the pain receptors in your brain are no longer important information. It hurts, you can feel it hurt. But you don't care.
 
2014-02-17 10:26:08 PM  

crotchgrabber: A Terrible Human: Bonzo_1116: Informal survey:  for the folks mentioning resistance to the painkilling effects of opiates:  was the person with the resistance to opiates in the story a redhead?

I remember reading on fark some years back that red hair is linked to weird pain responses.

I have red hair,green eyes and pale skin but I don't have a resistance to opiates,I have a resistance to medications that are supposed to numb you. It takes a lot more to make me numb than it does for a normal person,my dentist called me a farking weirdo over it.

This may be a stupid question, seeing how this is Fark and all... but do you drink too much? Drinking makes numbing agents lose their oomph.


Nope I maybe drink 3 or 4 times a year.
 
2014-02-17 10:31:01 PM  

Mister Peejay: /or you can try ignoring it, but that's harder



For some of us it's not hard, it's kind of a benefit of ADHD -- you learn to use it to put things out of your mind. Not always 100% effective, and it's damn unpleasant when some idiot insists on calling attention to what you're working really hard to ignore, and it doesn't work at all when you're sleeping ... but it's often useful on many kinds of pain.
 
2014-02-17 10:53:52 PM  
What else would you expect from a website called "Cracked," to be unbiased to the other not-as-cool drugs?

/got nothing
 
2014-02-17 10:56:10 PM  
I recommend the book "The Heroin Diaries".  It's a collection of journal entries written by Nikki Sixx from Motley Crue during the peak of his heroin addiction in the late 1980s.  Reading that book re-affirmed my commitment to never try heroin.
 
2014-02-17 10:58:18 PM  
I was in traction with a number of broken bones in the hospital, and used to amuse myself by counting how long it took when Nurse Goodbottom gave me my morphine shot until the clocks started melting off the wall Salvatore Dali-style and the ceiling tiles would begin rearranging themselves. Usually 20-25 seconds max.

And I developed quite a craving for the stuff in a very short period of time. I found myself asking for morphine even when the pain wasn't too bad. Ended up having to detox a bit, never want to do that again.
 
2014-02-17 11:06:00 PM  
I had throat surgery for sleep apnea. After some complications as I recovered I managed to get some liquid hydrocodone because pills were impossible. That shiat was great. Only ONE damned pharmacy in all of NYC carried it.

It wasn't as great as that shot of Demerol I got once, holy moley no wonder people get hooked on that stuff, its like liquid love, sunshine and puppies.
 
2014-02-17 11:12:30 PM  
I've IV'd heroin before, it's nice, but pretty low down on the intensity scale for me. IV 2C-I OTOH...


Put me down with everyone saying that opiates/opioids  don't really take away the pain, just make you not care. I find benzodiazepines do a much better job, and, naturally, dissociative anesthetics (ketamine, PCP, N2O) can completely remove pain.
 
2014-02-17 11:23:32 PM  

EbolaNYC: I had throat surgery for sleep apnea. After some complications as I recovered I managed to get some liquid hydrocodone because pills were impossible. That shiat was great. Only ONE damned pharmacy in all of NYC carried it.

It wasn't as great as that shot of Demerol I got once, holy moley no wonder people get hooked on that stuff, its like liquid love, sunshine and puppies.


I was on oxy and hydrocodone a couple times after surgeries, really didn't do much for me. Maybe it was a low dosage or because it was pill form, but marijuana and aspirin is better, and the weed doesn't make me miserably constipated.

I did have a shot of codeine once for a medical procedure...that was pretty great, I felt pretty good even while watching the doctor slice into my leg with a scalpel.
 
2014-02-17 11:29:30 PM  

doglover: madgordy: both times I had surgery I was given Morphine during recovery. No relief from the pain and constipation.

If morphine didn't help the pain you're either pharmacological strong against painkillers genetically, which is a thing, or you were in A LOT of pain and it couldn't dull all of it.

I had a kidney stone. Morphine saved my life.


Oooh, I hope that it isn't a thing because I've taken morphine and vicodin and other opiates for pain and they really did not do much for me. I had a bad abscess and infection and was on a morphine drip and it did nothing. I was up all day and all night (in spite of the raging infection, fever, surgery, morphine drip, and two week's worth of sickness before going to see the doc). I do get nauseous and have even thrown up though.

Never saw much point to opiates. Like the drugs where you get to play with reality and amphetamines are fun too.
 
2014-02-17 11:35:46 PM  

LadySusan: doglover: madgordy: both times I had surgery I was given Morphine during recovery. No relief from the pain and constipation.

If morphine didn't help the pain you're either pharmacological strong against painkillers genetically, which is a thing, or you were in A LOT of pain and it couldn't dull all of it.

I had a kidney stone. Morphine saved my life.

Oooh, I hope that it isn't a thing because I've taken morphine and vicodin and other opiates for pain and they really did not do much for me. I had a bad abscess and infection and was on a morphine drip and it did nothing. I was up all day and all night (in spite of the raging infection, fever, surgery, morphine drip, and two week's worth of sickness before going to see the doc). I do get nauseous and have even thrown up though.

Never saw much point to opiates. Like the drugs where you get to play with reality and amphetamines are fun too.


Are you a redhead?

Opiates ARE the drugs that play with reality. They turn pain and fear into nothing but memories in a melty world of relaxation and itchy skin.
 
2014-02-17 11:45:22 PM  
doglover:

Are you a redhead?

Opiates ARE the drugs that play with reality. They turn pain and fear into nothing but memories in a melty world of relaxation and itchy skin.


I thought that was alcohol.

Neat thing is, I also have a rather low alcohol tolerance.  Downside of THAT is, I can't maintain a buzz like some people can.  One, two hours tops, then after that drinking more just gives me a stomachache so I don't bother.

Now, if only they sold some fine bourbons in smaller bottles.  375ml lasts me a very long time indeed.
 
2014-02-17 11:55:02 PM  
dirtyeffinhippie:

He hit me with some IV Morphine, and asked "how's that"?  I said it was OK, but I wasn't there yet.  He hit me again, and I melted into the hospital bed, and gave him my arm, and said go for it.  Freaking amazing stuff.  When I woke up from surgery I was on a Morphine pump.  Mmmmmmm.  I figured out the intervals when it would let me run the pump (I could hear it run), and just sat there and watched the clock, pressing the button every 10 minutes or so

All I have to say is DAMN.  Good stuff.


Yeah - had a morphine drip coming out of surgery. Probably the best and worst high that exists. Way too addictive.
 
2014-02-18 12:05:37 AM  

doglover: madgordy: both times I had surgery I was given Morphine during recovery. No relief from the pain and constipation.

If morphine didn't help the pain you're either pharmacological strong against painkillers genetically, which is a thing, or you were in A LOT of pain and it couldn't dull all of it.

I had a kidney stone. Morphine saved my life.


They gave me Vicodin for that and I quickly found out that it doesn't do shiat.  60 hours of hot fun in the summertime.  Now when I get a Vicodin scrip I don't even bother filling it.
 
2014-02-18 12:23:20 AM  

monty666: Here's one good reason to try heroin. The first time you use it it is like you're floating on a big fluffy pink tinged cloud and you are just lying there and watching the world go by in stop motion.

It doesn't get better than that. In fact, it gets pretty bad, but the first time is so good you keep chasing that high


Or not. It plays out in stages. The room gets too warm. Vision dims and blurs a bit. Then there's a phase of being mean to the point of viciously sadistic. Then vertigo and projectile vomiting sets in, and that's it. Spend next several hours waiting for that to entirely go away. Booze is a better high, and perfectly legal. Opiate 'scrips are also not noticeably more effective for pain relief than several aspirins, so maybe I'm just not right for that particular addiction. Lucky me.
 
2014-02-18 12:29:17 AM  

LadySusan: doglover: madgordy: both times I had surgery I was given Morphine during recovery. No relief from the pain and constipation.

If morphine didn't help the pain you're either pharmacological strong against painkillers genetically, which is a thing, or you were in A LOT of pain and it couldn't dull all of it.

I had a kidney stone. Morphine saved my life.

Oooh, I hope that it isn't a thing because I've taken morphine and vicodin and other opiates for pain and they really did not do much for me. I had a bad abscess and infection and was on a morphine drip and it did nothing. I was up all day and all night (in spite of the raging infection, fever, surgery, morphine drip, and two week's worth of sickness before going to see the doc). I do get nauseous and have even thrown up though.

Never saw much point to opiates. Like the drugs where you get to play with reality and amphetamines are fun too.


In the Army, I found that I really liked speed, a little too much.  Stopped that and never went back.  Tried coke a couple of time, meh.  Smoked opium, meh.
 
2014-02-18 12:30:39 AM  

A Terrible Human: Bonzo_1116: Informal survey:  for the folks mentioning resistance to the painkilling effects of opiates:  was the person with the resistance to opiates in the story a redhead?

I remember reading on fark some years back that red hair is linked to weird pain responses.

I have red hair,green eyes and pale skin but I don't have a resistance to opiates,I have a resistance to medications that are supposed to numb you. It takes a lot more to make me numb than it does for a normal person,my dentist called me a farking weirdo over it.


Also redhair and green eyes here.  Don't recall what they gave me post-op for my appendix, but it wasn't all that helpful. And when I had a root canal a few months ago, I got to hear "Wow, that shouldn't still hurt!"  4. goddamn. times. The dentist (who several of my relatives swear is amazing and never caused them the slightest bit of pain) had to repeat doses, then eventually mixed locals (lidocaine + marcaine) and it still hurt a bit (but I stopped telling him so he'd just get it the hell over with at that point). I've seen some of the articles about gingers being less sensitive to pain meds... as if it wasn't enough to be soulless.
 
2014-02-18 12:36:40 AM  

zimbomba63: doglover: madgordy: both times I had surgery I was given Morphine during recovery. No relief from the pain and constipation.

If morphine didn't help the pain you're either pharmacological strong against painkillers genetically, which is a thing, or you were in A LOT of pain and it couldn't dull all of it.

I had a kidney stone. Morphine saved my life.

They gave me Vicodin for that and I quickly found out that it doesn't do shiat.  60 hours of hot fun in the summertime.  Now when I get a Vicodin scrip I don't even bother filling it.


Why not? Your insurance company is buying, and I'm sure you could figure out something to do with it.
 
2014-02-18 12:37:13 AM  

zimbomba63: doglover: madgordy: both times I had surgery I was given Morphine during recovery. No relief from the pain and constipation.

If morphine didn't help the pain you're either pharmacological strong against painkillers genetically, which is a thing, or you were in A LOT of pain and it couldn't dull all of it.

I had a kidney stone. Morphine saved my life.

They gave me Vicodin for that and I quickly found out that it doesn't do shiat.  60 hours of hot fun in the summertime.  Now when I get a Vicodin scrip I don't even bother filling it.


Oh no, vicidin is great.

Kidney stones are greater.
 
2014-02-18 12:49:32 AM  
This thread reminds me of helicopters and milk.

/no way heroin users live no way
//obscure?
 
2014-02-18 01:00:07 AM  

EnormousGreenRageMonster: A Terrible Human: Bonzo_1116: Informal survey:  for the folks mentioning resistance to the painkilling effects of opiates:  was the person with the resistance to opiates in the story a redhead?

I remember reading on fark some years back that red hair is linked to weird pain responses.

I have red hair,green eyes and pale skin but I don't have a resistance to opiates,I have a resistance to medications that are supposed to numb you. It takes a lot more to make me numb than it does for a normal person,my dentist called me a farking weirdo over it.

Also redhair and green eyes here.  Don't recall what they gave me post-op for my appendix, but it wasn't all that helpful. And when I had a root canal a few months ago, I got to hear "Wow, that shouldn't still hurt!"  4. goddamn. times. The dentist (who several of my relatives swear is amazing and never caused them the slightest bit of pain) had to repeat doses, then eventually mixed locals (lidocaine + marcaine) and it still hurt a bit (but I stopped telling him so he'd just get it the hell over with at that point). I've seen some of the articles about gingers being less sensitive to pain meds... as if it wasn't enough to be soulless.


Haha yeah no soul and we don't numb correctly. When I had the last 4 top teeth pulled I felt much more of him pulling my front tooth than I should have. I almost cried it hurt that much.
 
2014-02-18 01:25:51 AM  
I would like to try heroin once in my life. Im not interested in the addiction or butt to butt dildo sex, just interested in it as a one time thing.
Unfortunately I have no access to it locally and would not be interested in risking my life to try it with some addicts in Sanfrancisco. So it does seem unlikely I will get the chance.
 
2014-02-18 02:30:29 AM  

Alexei Novikov: Fark opiates. fark opiates so hard that they get fired into the sun. I hope to see us develop a better way to manage pain one day.


I doubt it will ever be possible to develop a drug that effectively alleviates serious pain that isn't addictive. The very nature of any chemical that does that - magically make pain go away - means it almost by necessity must be addictive. Your brain isn't stupid, if you're hurting (physically, mentally or both) and you take some drug and the pain stops, it's going to put 2 and 2 together and declare, "MOAR!"

Coke, heroin, morphine and I think at least one more were developed, in turn, to cure people of addiction to the one before. There have been multiple attempts to develop painkillers that aren't addictive or substitutes to get people off e.g. heroin... They're all even more addictive (e.g. TFA talks about methadone).
 
2014-02-18 02:35:17 AM  

420Gabriel: I would like to try heroin once in my life. Im not interested in the addiction or butt to butt dildo sex, just interested in it as a one time thing.
Unfortunately I have no access to it locally and would not be interested in risking my life to try it with some addicts in Sanfrancisco. So it does seem unlikely I will get the chance.


Just stick with the bong hits kid.
 
2014-02-18 02:39:32 AM  

erik-k: Alexei Novikov: Fark opiates. fark opiates so hard that they get fired into the sun. I hope to see us develop a better way to manage pain one day.

I doubt it will ever be possible to develop a drug that effectively alleviates serious pain that isn't addictive. The very nature of any chemical that does that - magically make pain go away - means it almost by necessity must be addictive. Your brain isn't stupid, if you're hurting (physically, mentally or both) and you take some drug and the pain stops, it's going to put 2 and 2 together and declare, "MOAR!"

Coke, heroin, morphine and I think at least one more were developed, in turn, to cure people of addiction to the one before. There have been multiple attempts to develop painkillers that aren't addictive or substitutes to get people off e.g. heroin... They're all even more addictive (e.g. TFA talks about methadone).


Even if it wasn't chemically addictive, ie no withdrawal symptoms ect, people would STILL get addicted to it. Look at the Internet.
 
2014-02-18 03:16:44 AM  
I don't know just where I'm going
But I'm goin' to try for the kingdom if I can
'Cause it makes me feel like I'm a man
When I put a spike into my vein
Then I tell you things aren't quite the same

When I'm rushing on my run
And I feel just like Jesus' son
And I guess I just don't know
And I guess that I just don't know

I have made very big decision
I'm goin' to try to nullify my life
'Cause when the blood begins to flow
When it shoots up the dropper's neck
When I'm closing in on death

You can't help me not you guys
All you sweet girls with all your sweet talk
You can all go take a walk
And I guess I just don't know
And I guess I just don't know

I wish that I was born a thousand years ago
I wish that I'd sailed the darkened seas
On a great big clipper ship
Going from this land here to that
I put on a sailor's suit and cap

Away from the big city
Where a man cannot be free
Of all the evils in this town
And of himself and those around
Oh, and I guess I just don't know
Oh, and I guess I just don't know

Heroin, be the death of me
Heroin, it's my wife and it's my life
Because a mainer to my vein
Leads to a center in my head
And then I'm better off than dead

When the smack begins to flow
Then I really don't care anymore
About all the Jim-Jims in this town
And everybody putting everybody else down
And all of the politicians makin' crazy sounds
All the dead bodies piled up in mounds, yeah

Wow, that heroin is in my blood
And the blood is in my head
Yeah, thank God that I'm good as dead
Ooohhh, thank your God that I'm not aware
And thank God that I just don't care
And I guess I just don't know
And I guess I just don't know
 
2014-02-18 05:42:43 AM  
I have done opiates and snorted heroin a bunch of times. Never got into it. Never liked downers. Cocaine was fun. For ten minutes then I needed to blow more money. It wasn't worth nearly as much as it cost. I enjoyed mj and shrooms a lot when I was younger. I did like meth a whole bunch but I was able to keep myself under control, so I kept a job and just binged a couple weekends a month. Now that I'm regularly tested for my employment I am back to just alcohol and the very occasional puff of mj.

In any case, not everyone has the same experiences. Some folks can use opiates and get off them. Some can't. I've seen people dying in the throws of alcohol withdrawal and it's not a pretty alternative either.

I've been able to use almost every hard drug there is without becoming a homeless addict. Some doctors are addicted to opiates their entire careers and live to be in their 80s. William Burroughs lived till he was 83 and did a metric ton of heroin in his life.

Drugs can be bad, but they generally aren't the end of the world. As bad as meth is, it will never kill as many kids as alcohol.
 
2014-02-18 06:28:46 AM  

simkatu: I have done opiates and snorted heroin a bunch of times. Never got into it. Never liked downers. Cocaine was fun. For ten minutes then I needed to blow more money. It wasn't worth nearly as much as it cost. I enjoyed mj and shrooms a lot when I was younger. I did like meth a whole bunch but I was able to keep myself under control, so I kept a job and just binged a couple weekends a month. Now that I'm regularly tested for my employment I am back to just alcohol and the very occasional puff of mj.

In any case, not everyone has the same experiences. Some folks can use opiates and get off them. Some can't. I've seen people dying in the throws of alcohol withdrawal and it's not a pretty alternative either.

I've been able to use almost every hard drug there is without becoming a homeless addict. Some doctors are addicted to opiates their entire careers and live to be in their 80s. William Burroughs lived till he was 83 and did a metric ton of heroin in his life.

Drugs can be bad, but they generally aren't the end of the world. As bad as meth is, it will never kill as many kids as alcohol.


This is close to my experience also. I can't think of anything reasonably "mainstream" that I haven't tried. I have never IV'd though. I'll never be drug tested at my job, so no worries there. Maybe it's just genetics, or some other factor, never been an addict to anything, moderation(small lie, I'm probably a functional alcoholic).  That being said, I would use illicit drugs still. It's just been awhile, probably 2 years since I even smoked a blunt. Should the right situation present itself, I would absolutely do a line of blow or H. Acid? E?  Sure. Right place, right time? Why not. It'd be fun I can guarantee.

/not Meth
//didn't like meth
///no idea why
 
2014-02-18 07:04:00 AM  
Cracked has been doing these kind of insider article for a few months now. "What it's like to be/have etc" where one of the staff writers help Cracked-ize their story. Too annoying to link on phone but here are some I recall:
What it's like to have cystic fibrosis
...be a military bomb hunter
What you learn about major label record companies after being signed
...be a navy submarine guy
What life in Iran is actually like
...growing up in scientology
...working with somali pirates
...troubled teen industry
...being a woman in military
...being a cop
...stuntman
Plus the older ones (that may have inspired these) by a staff writer about the withdrawal symptoms of quitting smoking and drinking.

There are only so many times you can read about easter eggs in movies and Hitler's bunker. Im enjoying this series and hope they keep it up.
 
2014-02-18 08:17:33 AM  

EbolaNYC: I had throat surgery for sleep apnea. After some complications as I recovered I managed to get some liquid hydrocodone because pills were impossible. That shiat was great. Only ONE damned pharmacy in all of NYC carried it.

It wasn't as great as that shot of Demerol I got once, holy moley no wonder people get hooked on that stuff, its like liquid love, sunshine and puppies.


I'm almost completely immune to numbing agents, cocaine, xanax, oxy, and hydrocodone, and morphine gets me a little high, but doesn't do sh*t for the pain. NO2 works better for pain than anything else the dentist has in her candy bag for me. (Not that I can't feel the pain, just that I no longer give a damn.) Demeral, though? Oh, god. I don't even like to do drugs, and I'd shoot up some Demeral right the hell now if I had some. It only took me one time during oral surgery to realize that I can't ever, ever, ever do that drug recreationally if I plan on living. It does make me wonder, though. Of all the opiates I've had, including actual opium, Demeral was the only one that really turned me on. What would it feel like to do the many others out there?
 
2014-02-18 10:41:39 AM  

knobmaker: meanmutton: hammettman: cocaine (if I know the source)

All coke comes from cartels.  There is no other source.  It comes from guys who indiscriminately use rape, torture, and the murder of children as weapons to control their distribution.  So enjoy your high but know that doing it is contributing to a child getting murdered, a judge getting assassinated, a man's wife getting raped in the middle of the night, a poor fisherman getting murdered after smuggling product because a bullet is cheaper than the $200 he was promised.

So what do you think, would it be smarter to change the laws and take that business away from the cartels, or rely on dopers developing a conscience?


Me? I'm in the legalize everything camp.  That's just me, though.  I understand I'm in the minority.
 
2014-02-18 11:04:24 AM  

420Gabriel: I would like to try heroin once in my life. Im not interested in the addiction



*cue laugh track*

You may want to rethink that while you can still think.
 
2014-02-18 11:46:21 AM  

walktoanarcade: 420Gabriel: I would like to try heroin once in my life. Im not interested in the addiction


*cue laugh track*

You may want to rethink that while you can still think.


If you used it once, and didn't do it again, whether the experience was good, bad or indifferent, the chance you'd have a problem would be infinitesimally small. No one gets hooked on cigarettes the first time they choke down a lung full of smoke, either. Addiction is a phenomenon arising from repeated exposure, and one's neurochemistry then adapting and adjusting itself accordingly. Of course, if there's evidence in your life of significant poor impulse control, maybe it would be better never to try heroin, just in case you thought it was great fun. Daily use is what's going to fark you up, sort of like a spoonful of ice cream now and then is no big deal, but finding that it's so good you have to eat the entire carton soon turns you into a blob.
 
2014-02-18 12:03:43 PM  
*cue longer alternate laughtrack*

Do you realize how many heroin junkies have said exactly what you said?  I don't think you do.

I never have and never will do heroin, but that means I have excellent impulse control.

It's almost as if some people are intentionally twisting and turning things around.

Take it easy, but try to stay away drugs, kids.
 
2014-02-18 04:30:34 PM  

walktoanarcade: *cue longer alternate laughtrack*

Do you realize how many heroin junkies have said exactly what you said?  I don't think you do.

I never have and never will do heroin, but that means I have excellent impulse control.

It's almost as if some people are intentionally twisting and turning things around.

Take it easy, but try to stay away drugs, kids.


Used it a few times, because it was there, and what the hell. I didn't become hooked, and wouldn't ever bother using it again. As noted elsewhere above, I really don't find it all that pleasant. There are risks. As there are risks to damn near everything, even getting out of bed in the morning. Everyone needs to make their own decision about whether the risk is acceptable.
 
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