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(Talking Points Memo)   NY GOP strategist, who apparently has balls that can be seen from space, asks a federal judge to delay his corruption trial on the grounds that prosecuting him right now could hurt his party's chances in 2014   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 94
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2014-02-17 02:00:52 PM

Great_Milenko: As long as he remains in custody (flight risk) until the trial, you can delay it as long as you like.

It's only 8 1/2 months until the election.  If they can drag out the process a little while longer, it'll end up scheduled after the election anyhow. Which I'm sure is the real plan here.


It's like if you charge the Scout Leader with child molestation now, what will happen with Boy Scout long weekend sleep-over planned for next week?
 
2014-02-17 02:03:25 PM

GlenninSac: sdd2000: shanrick: whosits_112: Fart_Machine: Another contender for most punchable face?

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The Republicans seem to field a team in the Punchable Face Brigade:
[www.gop.com image 228x316]
[www.ontheissues.org image 249x320]
[www.riograndefoundation.org image 224x248]
[media3.s-nbcnews.com image 308x440]

Feel free to add more to the list...

[i.imgur.com image 300x300]

[img.fark.net image 605x328]

PJ Boy

[images.politico.com image 605x328]


WHAR PUDDING! WHAR!!!!
 
2014-02-17 02:07:07 PM

whosits_112: I think we should petition the Olympic Committee to make Face Punching a sport at the next games. Then at least these jagoffs could be useful for once and bring some gold to the country...


Nah, make it like a raffle - $500 to sock him in the gut, $1,000 for a face-punch, $5,000 for a nut-kick (or coont poont), $100,000 to savagely beat him to unconsciousness with your bare hands ($500k and up for various weapons). Hostel-style, only the price scales by violence instead of nationality.

// 100% of all cash collected goes to paying down the national debt, placating the fiscal conservatives
// or we could set prices via the Free Market; let's see who really hates whom
 
2014-02-17 02:10:44 PM

Dr Dreidel: whosits_112: I think we should petition the Olympic Committee to make Face Punching a sport at the next games. Then at least these jagoffs could be useful for once and bring some gold to the country...

Nah, make it like a raffle - $500 to sock him in the gut, $1,000 for a face-punch, $5,000 for a nut-kick (or coont poont), $100,000 to savagely beat him to unconsciousness with your bare hands ($500k and up for various weapons). Hostel-style, only the price scales by violence instead of nationality.

// 100% of all cash collected goes to paying down the national debt, placating the fiscal conservatives
// or we could set prices via the Free Market; let's see who really hates whom



www.duramaxforum.com

We would be debt free in a matter of DAYS...
 
2014-02-17 02:28:49 PM
No, subby, not big balls.  He's simply the owner of the patented GOP "reality stops here" deflector shield.  Part and parcel of the IOKIYAR belief system.
 
2014-02-17 02:29:24 PM
Looked at TFA Saw TFpic....

Does this guy have Down's Syndrome?
 
2014-02-17 02:31:16 PM

WriteInCandidate: whosits_112: Fart_Machine: Another contender for most punchable face?

The Republicans seem to field a team in the Punchable Face Brigade:
[www.gop.com image 228x316]
[www.ontheissues.org image 249x320]
[www.riograndefoundation.org image 224x248]
[media3.s-nbcnews.com image 308x440]

Feel free to add more to the list...

Don't forget Ted Cruz.


How could you have left out Paul Ryan???
 
2014-02-17 02:33:09 PM

hammettman: No, subby, not big balls.  He's simply the owner of the patented GOP "reality stops here" deflector shield.  Part and parcel of the IOKIYAR belief system.


Republican gets in trouble: Deflect and avoid, say the party isn't at fault, blame the Democrats.
Democrat gets in trouble: Point out how ALL Democrats are just as bad, and that Republicans are never like that, despite past history.

That's what it seems like to me.
 
2014-02-17 02:33:18 PM
i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-02-17 02:33:22 PM

theknuckler_33: So, not only a repeat, but basically a same-themed headline as the original green-lit thread?

Awesome.


Wow, this comment is a repeat comment from less that 40 minutes earlier.

Awesome.
 
2014-02-17 02:34:28 PM
I really hope the Judge says "you should have thought of that when you cashed the check, fat ass!  Denied!"
 
2014-02-17 02:36:20 PM

Aquapope: theknuckler_33: So, not only a repeat, but basically a same-themed headline as the original green-lit thread?

Awesome.

Wow, this comment is a repeat comment from less that 40 minutes earlier.

Awesome.


Whooooaaaaaa.  Meta.
 
2014-02-17 02:42:12 PM

Crapinoleum: WriteInCandidate: whosits_112: Fart_Machine: Another contender for most punchable face?

The Republicans seem to field a team in the Punchable Face Brigade:
[www.gop.com image 228x316]
[www.ontheissues.org image 249x320]
[www.riograndefoundation.org image 224x248]
[media3.s-nbcnews.com image 308x440]

Feel free to add more to the list...

Don't forget Ted Cruz.

How could you have left out Paul Ryan???


That's why I said to add on to the list ;)
 
2014-02-17 02:42:36 PM

Wadded Beef: BMulligan: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: Wadded Beef: dittybopper: The only thing that is going to hurt NY Republicans in 2014 is if they voted for the NY SAFE Act.

And it's going to hurt them because normally reliable party voters will say "fark you" and stay home.

So, win-win.

So long as pro-gun rights Democrats get elected, yes.

Not everyone gives a rat's ass about guns.

Surely you jest. On the scale of human needs, oxygen > guns > water > food > sex (except, of course, sex with guns).

If the tired mantra, "guns don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people" is to be applied then I to this day have a hard time understanding why Second Amendmenters have a problem with background checks trying to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't be operating firearms (i.e. mentally ill, criminals).


"Guns don't kill people, people kill people."  AND "Corporations are people."  SO, "Corporations kill people,"
 
2014-02-17 02:51:58 PM

Emposter: Vincent Tabone, former vice chair of the Queens Republican Party who is accused of allegedly accepting a $25,000 bribe to allow a Democratic state senator to run for mayor as a Republican, has requested that his June 2 trial be rescheduled for December or later.

Ummmm...political parties are not government branches/agencies.  The Vice Chair of the Queens Republican Party is not a government position.  A political party can allow anyone they want to use their label for any reason they want.

Why do I get the feeling the article is critically lacking on information regarding the criminal acts that actually occurred here?


You're allowed to horse trade political favors to get people to switch parties.  You CAN not just outright give people cash to do so.  Nor can you demand cash for yourself to let someone join a national party.
 
2014-02-17 02:55:29 PM

Fart_Machine: Another contender for most punchable face?

[a3.img.talkingpointsmemo.com image 652x365]


I was bullied. I hate bullies, but I have this iresistable urge to give to give that man a wedgie.
 
2014-02-17 02:56:01 PM

whosits_112: Crapinoleum: WriteInCandidate: whosits_112: Fart_Machine: Another contender for most punchable face?

The Republicans seem to field a team in the Punchable Face Brigade:
[www.gop.com image 228x316]
[www.ontheissues.org image 249x320]
[www.riograndefoundation.org image 224x248]
[media3.s-nbcnews.com image 308x440]

Feel free to add more to the list...

Don't forget Ted Cruz.

How could you have left out Paul Ryan???

That's why I said to add on to the list ;)


I didn't mean "you" specifically, I meant "the rest of you."  I don't have an image to post, so I didn't, but it's unbelievable that his ugly (punchable) mug has not shown up yet.
 
2014-02-17 02:56:31 PM

Bane of Broone: Fart_Machine: Another contender for most punchable face?

[a3.img.talkingpointsmemo.com image 652x365]

I was bullied. I hate bullies, but I have this iresistable irresistible urge to give to give that man a wedgie.


Wow.....FTFM
 
2014-02-17 02:57:20 PM

Aquapope: Wadded Beef: BMulligan: NuclearPenguins: dittybopper: Wadded Beef: dittybopper: The only thing that is going to hurt NY Republicans in 2014 is if they voted for the NY SAFE Act.

And it's going to hurt them because normally reliable party voters will say "fark you" and stay home.

So, win-win.

So long as pro-gun rights Democrats get elected, yes.

Not everyone gives a rat's ass about guns.

Surely you jest. On the scale of human needs, oxygen > guns > water > food > sex (except, of course, sex with guns).

If the tired mantra, "guns don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people" is to be applied then I to this day have a hard time understanding why Second Amendmenters have a problem with background checks trying to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't be operating firearms (i.e. mentally ill, criminals).

"Guns don't kill people, people kill people."  AND "Corporations are people."  SO, "Corporations kill people,"


People are corporations too my friend.
 
2014-02-17 02:58:12 PM

Crapinoleum: whosits_112: Crapinoleum: WriteInCandidate: whosits_112: Fart_Machine: Another contender for most punchable face?

The Republicans seem to field a team in the Punchable Face Brigade:
[www.gop.com image 228x316]
[www.ontheissues.org image 249x320]
[www.riograndefoundation.org image 224x248]
[media3.s-nbcnews.com image 308x440]

Feel free to add more to the list...

Don't forget Ted Cruz.

How could you have left out Paul Ryan???

That's why I said to add on to the list ;)

I didn't mean "you" specifically, I meant "the rest of you."  I don't have an image to post, so I didn't, but it's unbelievable that his ugly (punchable) mug has not shown up yet.



blogs.e-rockford.com
"Why'd ya hafta call me ugly for, huh?"
/There, did ya a solid
 
2014-02-17 03:19:38 PM

Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "Subjecting the Republican Party, its officials and internal political strategies to intense scrutiny, while sparing the Democratic Party, would unfairly undermine Republican Party candidates in the general election."

Sparing the Democratic Party?  Sparing them from what?  Why the fark should the Democrats have to do anything because this farknut took a bribe?  Jesus....


Its not a bribe, it's free speech and protected thanks to citizens United.
 
2014-02-17 03:35:45 PM

GlenninSac:

PJ Boy

[images.politico.com image 605x328]


I swear, every single picture I've seen of him, he looks like he just let out one of those nasty, prolonged belches that just linger.

And I'd like to add this guy to the list of Most Punchable Faces:

i1126.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-17 03:38:40 PM
In terms of legal strategy, this is brilliant. If he's granted a delay, when his trial comes up he can move for dismissal based on lack of due process, since it took so long for his case to come to trial.
 
2014-02-17 03:48:14 PM

Arachnophobe: GlenninSac:

PJ Boy

[images.politico.com image 605x328]

I swear, every single picture I've seen of him, he looks like he just let out one of those nasty, prolonged belches that just linger.

And I'd like to add this guy to the list of Most Punchable Faces:

[i1126.photobucket.com image 750x500]


Hey everybody, what's going on in this thread?

images.politico.com
 
2014-02-17 03:53:28 PM

mrshowrules: Arachnophobe: GlenninSac:

PJ Boy

[images.politico.com image 605x328]

I swear, every single picture I've seen of him, he looks like he just let out one of those nasty, prolonged belches that just linger.

And I'd like to add this guy to the list of Most Punchable Faces:

[i1126.photobucket.com image 750x500]

Hey everybody, what's going on in this thread?

[images.politico.com image 605x328]



im41.com
I don't know, but who farted?? Was it you, Rush?
 
2014-02-17 03:54:38 PM

Arachnophobe: And I'd like to add this guy to the list of Most Punchable Faces:


Please, multiple megablows to this smarmy bastards mug:

cdn.breitbart.com
 
2014-02-17 03:59:08 PM

whosits_112: mrshowrules: Arachnophobe: GlenninSac:

PJ Boy

[images.politico.com image 605x328]

I swear, every single picture I've seen of him, he looks like he just let out one of those nasty, prolonged belches that just linger.

And I'd like to add this guy to the list of Most Punchable Faces:

[i1126.photobucket.com image 750x500]

Hey everybody, what's going on in this thread?

[images.politico.com image 605x328]


[im41.com image 456x236]
I don't know, but who farted?? Was it you, Rush?


"I could work a fourth job as punching bag for libulardos without jobs!"

thinkprogress.org
 
2014-02-17 04:04:06 PM
You guys all missed the most punchable

www.thesuitisnotblack.com

Not a politician but so what
 
2014-02-17 04:06:16 PM

coeyagi: whosits_112: mrshowrules: Arachnophobe: GlenninSac:

PJ Boy

[images.politico.com image 605x328]

I swear, every single picture I've seen of him, he looks like he just let out one of those nasty, prolonged belches that just linger.

And I'd like to add this guy to the list of Most Punchable Faces:

[i1126.photobucket.com image 750x500]

Hey everybody, what's going on in this thread?

[images.politico.com image 605x328]


[im41.com image 456x236]
I don't know, but who farted?? Was it you, Rush?

"I could work a fourth job as punching bag for libulardos without jobs!"

[thinkprogress.org image 640x427]



img.timeinc.net
"Hey! I want in on the party, too! Where's the twinks at?"
 
2014-02-17 04:08:07 PM

Herb Utsmelz: You guys all missed the most punchable

[www.thesuitisnotblack.com image 480x361]

Not a politician but so what


No need for them to be politicians! Any conservative toolbag is allowed to play the "How many punches can my face take" game!
 
2014-02-17 04:54:44 PM

whosits_112: WriteInCandidate: whosits_112: Fart_Machine: Another contender for most punchable face?

The Republicans seem to field a team in the Punchable Face Brigade:
[www.gop.com image 228x316]
[www.ontheissues.org image 249x320]
[www.riograndefoundation.org image 224x248]
[media3.s-nbcnews.com image 308x440]

Feel free to add more to the list...

Don't forget Ted Cruz.



Just don't punch your monitor too hard...


I had to stop myself from drop kicking my tablet.
 
2014-02-17 04:56:44 PM
Wow...  Not only a repeat from 2 days ago, but almost the same headline.
 
2014-02-17 05:18:48 PM

BMFPitt: Wow...  Not only a repeat from 2 days ago, but almost the same headline.


Not a repeat, which was covered earlier in thread. But similar headline, yes.
 
2014-02-17 05:40:43 PM

Fart_Machine: Another contender for most punchable face?

[a3.img.talkingpointsmemo.com image 652x365]


WHERE THE fark IS YOUR CHIN?!?!
 
2014-02-17 05:42:42 PM

Herb Utsmelz: You guys all missed the most punchable


I agree. Where's Sean Hannity?
 
2014-02-17 07:46:58 PM
Stop worrying about the ghono right now babe, the time is right!!!

/I'll get it fixed later
 
2014-02-17 10:00:31 PM
The dude's balls will be seen from space after the judge stomps all over them and they swell to the size of Fire Island.
 
2014-02-17 10:06:29 PM

BMFPitt: Wow...  Not only a repeat from 2 days ago, but almost the same headline.


It's been pointed out that the earlier story was about the Malcolm Smith, guy who offered the bribe; this story is about Vincent Tabone, one the guys who accepted it.

The two men sat in the state senator's parked car in suburban Rockland County, but New York City was at the front of their minds and the focus of their conversation.
What the senator, Malcolm A. Smith, wanted to do, the other man explained, was going to cost "a pretty penny."
"But it's worth it," replied Senator Smith, a Democrat, according to a transcript of the January meeting. "Because you know how big a deal it is."
His plan, described by federal prosecutors in a criminal complaint unsealed on Tuesday, was as ambitious as it was audacious. Mr. Smith was going to bribe his way onto the ballot to run for mayor of New York.
But he needed help, from a disparate cast of characters, including a Republican City Council member from Queens, Daniel J. Halloran III, and two Republican leaders from Queens and the Bronx, Vincent Tabone and Joseph J. Savino. And he needed the help of the other man in the car, who, unbeknown to Mr. Smith, was a cooperating witness for the Federal Bureau of Investigation and was recording the whole conversation.
The complaint described envelopes of cash trading hands in Manhattan hotel rooms and restaurants, payments of thousands of dollars to persuade Republican leaders in New York to put Senator Smith, from Queens, on the Republican ballot in November. The bribes were to be paid to obtain certificates authorizing him to run for mayor as a Republican even though he was a registered Democrat.
Mr. Halloran, a police cadet for a few months more than 20 years ago, imagined himself becoming a deputy police commissioner or deputy mayor in a Smith administration, according to the complaint. The scheme seemed to play out without regard for the extreme long shot Mr. Smith, a near perennial subject of corruption inquiries, would face in the election.
The transcripts of conversations with an F.B.I. agent posing as a businessman, included in the complaint, are a blend of blasé and cliché, with shrugs of business-as-usual cynicism - "That's politics," Mr. Halloran said in one meeting - and B-movie underworld lingo, where "money greases the wheels," another phrase attributed to Mr. Halloran. At least two meetings, on Valentine's Day, occurred in the Sparks Steak House, the scene of the gangland execution of Paul Castellano in 1985.

Mr. Smith has said publicly that he was mulling a run for mayor on the Republican ticket; the complaint suggests far more than mulling. The first meetings described in the complaint took place last November, with the election about a year away.
Getting on the ballot would require signatures from a majority of the city's five Republican chairmen. In a meeting in a White Plains hotel with the undercover agent and a cooperating witness, Mr. Smith noted that one chairman was supporting another mayoral candidate and said, "If you can change him, that would be huge."
The undercover officer left that meeting with Mr. Smith and joined Mr. Halloran in a restaurant in Queens. The council member, who hails from a family of generations of police officers and firefighters, was perhaps best known for having suggested that city snow plow drivers staged a work slowdown after the blizzard in 2010, deliberately leaving streets unpassable. A grand jury inquiry and a city investigation declared the claims to be unfounded.
For Mr. Smith, he was to act as a middleman between the undercover agent and the Republican chairmen.
On Feb. 8, Mr. Halloran met the cooperating witness and the agent in a Manhattan hotel to report the results of his work: Mr. Savino, the Bronx Republican chairman, wanted $25,000 for his signature, the complaint stated. "In an envelope," Mr. Halloran suggested. Mr. Savino eventually settled for $15,000, the authorities said.
Mr. Halloran said Mr. Tabone, vice chairman of the Queens Republican Party, wanted $50,000, with half up front before the signature, the complaint said.


Mr. Smith met with the agent and the witness two days later at a Manhattan hotel, instructing his bodyguard to wait outside the room. He suggested structuring the payments so they would appear less suspicious.
"I wouldn't give them more than, like, 10," Mr. Smith suggested, according to the complaint. "Just to start out."
Valentine's Day was a busy one. The agent met separately with Mr. Savino and Mr. Tabone at Sparks on the East Side of Manhattan, presumably amid couples celebrating the day. Both men stepped outside with the agent and accepted envelopes of cash, the complaint stated. Mr. Tabone even paused to frisk the agent for a wire. He failed to find it, and the recording continued without interruption.
But things were not moving quickly enough for Mr. Smith. Apparently frustrated by delays in the signing of the certificates, he argued against paying anyone more with only-in-New-York bluster.
For "even a nickel more," each man should "stand on the Empire State Building and drop every person you endorsed and hold Malcolm up and say he's the best thing since sliced bread," Mr. Smith said, the complaint stated.
"Matter of fact," he added, "he's better than sliced bread."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/03/nyregion/state-senator-and-city-co un cilman-accused-of-trying-to-rig-mayors-race.html?action=click&contentC ollection=N.Y.%20%2F%20Region&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia &pgtype=article
 
2014-02-17 10:23:37 PM

Warlordtrooper: Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "Subjecting the Republican Party, its officials and internal political strategies to intense scrutiny, while sparing the Democratic Party, would unfairly undermine Republican Party candidates in the general election."

Sparing the Democratic Party?  Sparing them from what?  Why the fark should the Democrats have to do anything because this farknut took a bribe?  Jesus....

Its not a bribe, it's free speech and protected thanks to citizens United.


It's only a bribe if you want to blame the Democrats.

'Cause nothing makes the Democrats look worse than a Democrat trying to bribe his way onto the Republican ticket for mayor. . .
 
2014-02-17 10:59:34 PM

geek_mars: In terms of legal strategy, this is brilliant. If he's granted a delay, when his trial comes up he can move for dismissal based on lack of due process, since it took so long for his case to come to trial.


You don't really believe it works this way, do you? It doesn't. When a defendant moves a continuance, he or she must execute a speedy trial waiver with the motion.
 
2014-02-17 11:00:36 PM

BMulligan: geek_mars: In terms of legal strategy, this is brilliant. If he's granted a delay, when his trial comes up he can move for dismissal based on lack of due process, since it took so long for his case to come to trial.

You don't really believe it works this way, do you? It doesn't. When a defendant moves for a continuance, he or she must execute a speedy trial waiver with the motion.


FTFM.
 
2014-02-17 11:58:20 PM

BMulligan: Oops, my bad. Different corrupt New Yorker with oversized jewels. Carry on.


Yes and no.  It's the same scandal.  Basically, the scandal goes like this:

Democratic State Senator: I'd like permission to run for mayor of NYC as a Republican.
Three key Republicans: Only if you pay us.
Democratic State Senator: OK.

The prior article was about the Dem. Senator who paid the bribe.  This article is about the same scandal, but one of the three Republicans who solicited/accepted the bribe.
 
2014-02-18 02:24:21 AM

BMulligan: geek_mars: In terms of legal strategy, this is brilliant. If he's granted a delay, when his trial comes up he can move for dismissal based on lack of due process, since it took so long for his case to come to trial.

You don't really believe it works this way, do you? It doesn't. When a defendant moves for a continuance, he or she must execute a speedy trial waiver with the motion.


I was just being facetious.
 
2014-02-18 11:38:16 AM

Sum Dum Gai: BMulligan: Oops, my bad. Different corrupt New Yorker with oversized jewels. Carry on.

Yes and no.  It's the same scandal.  Basically, the scandal goes like this:

Democratic State Senator: I'd like permission to run for mayor of NYC as a Republican.
Three key Republicans: Only if you pay us.
Democratic State Senator: OK.

The prior article was about the Dem. Senator who paid the bribe.  This article is about the same scandal, but one of the three Republicans who solicited/accepted the bribe.


Even on Sesame Street they know that is four, 4, count 1, 2, 3, 4 dickneads that need to go to jail.
 
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