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(Philly.com)   The Phillies aren't old. They're aged, like fine wine or cheese. Or maybe like that milk in the back of the fridge that you forgot about   (philly.com ) divider line
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2014-02-17 01:25:12 PM  
Take this from a fan.

They're not a fine wine.
They're vinegar at this point.

Dear god this is going to be a long freaking season.
Please, for the love of all thats holy, get rid of Amaro already.
 
2014-02-17 01:34:06 PM  
As a Pirates fan, good luck.

/don't want to mess with any karma
 
2014-02-17 01:41:54 PM  
That was an embarrassing read.

The Phillies are old.  Most are fragile.  Howard is off PED's.  The pitching is extremely suspect.  They might not be 29th in the league, but they are not very far from it.

It is going to be a very long season.

Go Phils!
 
2014-02-17 01:44:58 PM  
ag·ed  (ā′jĭd), yes
aged (ˈeɪdʒɪd) , no
 
2014-02-17 01:45:34 PM  
Here's to hoping Medicare will cover Chooch's Adderall, Utley's Cortizone shots, Byrd's Roids, and Hamels' Anxeity meds.  Smith-Kline also needs to come up with a pill to let Howard lay off the outside slider/curve.
 
2014-02-17 01:49:45 PM  

vladimpaler: That was an embarrassing read.

The Phillies are old.  Most are fragile.  Howard is off PED's.  The pitching is extremely suspect.  They might not be 29th in the league, but they are not very far from it.

It is going to be a very long season.

Go Phils!


Howard never struck me as a PED player no real PED peak and he took normal recovery time. He was always more John Kruk beefy than ripped. Mind you, everyone is a suspect these days and who knows what people take post-injury too, he just seemed like the big kid from Little League World Series for NES all grown up.
 
2014-02-17 01:59:26 PM  

vladimpaler: That was an embarrassing read.

The Phillies are old.  Most are fragile.  Howard is off PED's.  The pitching is extremely suspect.  They might not be 29th in the league, but they are not very far from it.

It is going to be a very long season.

Go Phils!


Yep. 30 is very close to 29.
 
2014-02-17 02:05:41 PM  
Reuben Amaro has built the perfect team to win a World Series - the 2002 World Series, but, still.
 
2014-02-17 02:12:12 PM  
Amaro SUCKS! I', old enough to remember the "Wheeze Kids" of '83. This team has nowhere near the talent that team had.
 
2014-02-17 02:28:35 PM  

upndn: As a Pirates fan, good luck.

/don't want to mess with any karma


I kinda wish we had kept Marlon Byrd.

Nice to see another team floundering cluelessly for once.
 
2014-02-17 03:07:39 PM  
It really wasn't that long ago that this team was considered tops in the National League. Ruben Amaro has us on the fast track back to the same old Phillies from when I was a kid, those late eighties through early 2000's Phils(except 1993) were pathetic every farking season.

/but on the plus side, the ticket situation might go back to like it was in the late Vet stadium days, when the park was empty every night, and you could drop $9 on a general admission seat and go sit three rows behind home plate.
 
2014-02-17 03:07:43 PM  

TheManofPA: vladimpaler: That was an embarrassing read.

The Phillies are old.  Most are fragile.  Howard is off PED's.  The pitching is extremely suspect.  They might not be 29th in the league, but they are not very far from it.

It is going to be a very long season.

Go Phils!

Howard never struck me as a PED player no real PED peak and he took normal recovery time. He was always more John Kruk beefy than ripped. Mind you, everyone is a suspect these days and who knows what people take post-injury too, he just seemed like the big kid from Little League World Series for NES all grown up.


He has had a major drop-off in production, he seems to be more injury-prone, and when MLB started serious testing, he announced he was coming to camp smaller in an attempt to improve his defense.

Not definitive proof by any means, but....
 
2014-02-17 03:27:03 PM  

vladimpaler: TheManofPA: vladimpaler: That was an embarrassing read.

The Phillies are old.  Most are fragile.  Howard is off PED's.  The pitching is extremely suspect.  They might not be 29th in the league, but they are not very far from it.

It is going to be a very long season.

Go Phils!

Howard never struck me as a PED player no real PED peak and he took normal recovery time. He was always more John Kruk beefy than ripped. Mind you, everyone is a suspect these days and who knows what people take post-injury too, he just seemed like the big kid from Little League World Series for NES all grown up.

He has had a major drop-off in production, he seems to be more injury-prone, and when MLB started serious testing, he announced he was coming to camp smaller in an attempt to improve his defense.

Not definitive proof by any means, but....


Big fat guy starts slowing down in his early 30s.  This isn't anything new.  And it's really a pretty gradual drop, rather than a single jump from one year to the next.

Knee and leg injuries are also common for big fat guys.
 
2014-02-17 07:10:57 PM  
Ruben Amaro, Jr.  has my favorite derogatory nickname in Ruin Tomorrow, Jr.
 
2014-02-17 09:01:08 PM  
Ryan Howard's remaining contract:
2014: $25M
2015: $25M
2016: $25M
2017: $23M club option that they will never take, but it has a $10M buyout.

His last two seasons combined: 151 G, .244/.307/.445 batting line with 25 HR, horrid baserunning, atrocious defense on a club with no DH.  And now they're likely to pay $85M for 3 more years of that.  Oh, and the best prospect in the Phillies' farm system (Maikel Franco) is MLB-ready this year and he's a 1B/3B who probably won't stick at 3B.

That contract was a horrible, horrible decision.
 
2014-02-17 09:05:53 PM  
Also, the Phillies' rotation has gone from the talk of the NL to... Hamels, Lee, and... I guess the #3 is Kyle Kendrick.
 
2014-02-18 01:20:35 AM  

chimp_ninja: Also, the Phillies' rotation has gone from the talk of the NL to... Hamels, Lee, and... I guess the #3 is Kyle Kendrick.


Yikes, but I think AJ Burnett is actually the #3.
 
2014-02-18 03:32:56 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Reuben Amaro has built the perfect team to win a World Series - the 2002 World Series, but, still.

Interesting you mentioned the 2002 World Series. As per the article, there was only 4 teams in the history of baseball that had 5 regular players 34 or older with 400 plate appearances; one was the 2002 San Francisco Giants (who lost the World Series to Anaheim Angels in 7 games).  The Phils could be added to that "exclusive" list this year with their multiple aged starters. Wow, could they also make the World Series? That would be a shocker.

My 2 Phillie fan friends who have had season tickets for a few years both did not renew their plans this year. I've been a Phillies fan since the late 1960's. I'm used to bad years. Will follow them as usual. We may be planning a 4th of July trip to see them in Pittsburgh this year. Have been going to spring training in Clearwater last 3 years, but not this year.  Go Phils!

 
2014-02-18 03:44:57 AM  
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