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(The Raw Story)   In a development no one could have seen coming, study shows that murders in Missouri have jumped 63% since the state repealed background check requirements for handgun purchases in 2008, while no neighboring state saw a similar jump   (rawstory.com) divider line 15
    More: Obvious, Missouri, handguns, murders, licensing laws  
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2014-02-17 01:53:31 PM  
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I should also point out that the data from the links above reveal that throwing someone out a window was used as a murder weapon four times between 2005 and 2011.
2014-02-17 01:53:18 PM  
2 votes:
It is a statistical CERTAINTY that you will be held up at gunpoint in public or in your home by some scruffy stranger.  At the same time there is nearly NO chance whatsoever that you or a family member will accidentally or impulsively shoot someone, or use the weapon in a crime.

So farking knock yourselves out.
2014-02-17 01:51:41 PM  
2 votes:
That's only because there are still too many onerous requirements on law-abiding gun purchasers.  We need to remove every single regulation, and then you will see that crime will go down to nothing.
2014-02-17 01:13:41 PM  
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dittybopper: DamnYankees: dittybopper: In what way?  That it didn't have a lasting significant difference?

Yes, I was agreeing with you. The impact seems to be isolated to that one year and not sustained, which sort of undermines the idea that the repeal of this law had some huge lasting consequences.

OK.  Your post was ambiguous.  Sometimes it's hard to tell.


No.
2014-02-17 03:34:17 PM  
1 votes:

jaytkay: MyRandomName: What about guns scare you so much.

The fact that gun enthusiasts are resentful losers who dream about the day they get to kill somebody.


So you're scared of stuff you make up in your head?  Neat.  Irrational but neat.
2014-02-17 02:47:47 PM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: Infernalist: That's an interesting facet of the conversation.

It's from the same people who want to ban common bolt-action hunting and target rifles as "sniper rifles".

Don't believe me?

http://www.vpc.org/graphics/snipcov2.pdf

Given the virtual identity of the core systems, the outright equivalence
accorded the sniper and varmint model by the experts, and Remington's own
emphasis on the inclusion of military and police technology in its advertising, we
include the Remington Model 700 Varmint Special on this list of civilian sniper rifles.

The "core system" is the Remington Model 700 bolt action, sold for 50+ years as a target and hunting rifle, and the military adopted the Model 700 because of its inherent accuracy, not the other-way 'round.


I'm sorry, I seem to have given the impression that I'm involved in the conversation.  I've already made up my mind and moved into 'snarky comment' territory.

Sorry for the mis-communication.
2014-02-17 02:12:27 PM  
1 votes:
If we just shoot everyone who gathers and reports gun violence statistics, the published rate of gun violence will be zero!!
2014-02-17 02:05:38 PM  
1 votes:
Just the kind of bald faced BS we've come to expect from the good folks at RAWSTORY!
2014-02-17 02:03:27 PM  
1 votes:
images2.dailykos.com

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2014-02-17 01:57:06 PM  
1 votes:
I love the kneejerk disbelief expressed by the gun fetish crowd.  They just know, in their gut, that no regulations on guns could ever possibly reduce gun violence.  Evidence be damned.
2014-02-17 01:55:31 PM  
1 votes:

plmyfngr: I often wonder how many people sit around and think "I'd really like to kill that guy...if only I could legally get a handgun..."


I'm guessing it's in equal proportion to the number of people that have met my ex.
2014-02-17 01:55:14 PM  
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Rapmaster2000: That's only because there are still too many onerous requirements on law-abiding gun purchasers.  We need to remove every single regulation, and then you will see that crime will go down to nothing.


Right.  Get government out of the way of business.  The market will regulate itself.  Guns that shoot children and relatives or discharge accidentally into your groin will be a thing of the past once technology catches up to the demand.

How can we NOT support this??
2014-02-17 01:52:35 PM  
1 votes:
I thought East St. Louis was in Illinois?
2014-02-17 01:15:03 PM  
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dittybopper: That's an increase of 6.72-6.67 = 0.05 per 100,000 a year, so an extra 3 people per year at the 2012 population level. Maybe. That number is so small, I doubt it is statistically significant and it would be swallowed up by the normal "noise".


That crazy devil... always hiding in the details.
2014-02-17 11:18:34 AM  
1 votes:
I often wonder how many people sit around and think "I'd really like to kill that guy...if only I could legally get a handgun..."
 
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