Fubini: Clearly, the vast, vast majority of guns do not injure and will not injure anyone. Therefore, guns are safe.For comparison, consider cars. According to the same CDC data sources as above, there were 35,000 deaths and 2,500,000 injuries to motor vehicle occupants in 2012, leading to a combined death/injury rate for motor vehicle occupants of 1016.2 per 100,000. Recall from before that there are only 36 firearm injuries per 100,000.What's more, there are only about 250,000,000 cars in the US. Not only are you 28 times more likely to be injured riding in a car than by a firearm, there are far fewer cars in the US, which means each individual car is statistically much more dangerous than each individual firearm. That doesn't even factor in deaths and injury caused by cars to non-vehicle occupants. (A fun point of statistical nonsense, walking is roughly 12 times more dangerous than driving, per miles traveled. What does that say about the lethality of shoes?)
Maul555: [considerreconsider.com image 547x192][origin.factcheck.org image 600x831][2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x231][www.moveleft.org image 850x597]There are different stats... but on the conservative side guns are used to protect someone or something 40 times per every 1 gun crime. The problem with gun control is that you cant just eliminate the bad, you eliminate the much bigger good as well... Gun control is the real killer here.[www.guns.com image 660x750]
justtray: This is so stupid, I'm putting you on ignore.
justtray: Take your propaganda elsewhere please. Your stats are 100% fabricated, I really hope you one day possess the intelligence required to see that.
violentsalvation: justtray: This is so stupid, I'm putting you on ignore.Of course you are, you ignore everyone who bothers to point out how stupid your talking points are.
dittybopper: DamnYankees: dittybopper: DamnYankees: dittybopper: In what way? That it didn't have a lasting significant difference?Yes, I was agreeing with you. The impact seems to be isolated to that one year and not sustained, which sort of undermines the idea that the repeal of this law had some huge lasting consequences.OK. Your post was ambiguous. Sometimes it's hard to tell.No.Yes.
justtray: This is so stupid, I'm putting you on ignore.Just FYI, a valid comparison in risk would look at the amount of time each of those items are used, not be based solely in absolute numbers. Almost every single man, woman, and child drives in their car, probably for at least an hour per day. Are each of those guns in use for an hour each day?Your argument is stupid and you should feel bad for attempting to make it at all. I expect no less from the gun nut crowd, which appears to be entirely devoid of basic critical thinking and original thought. It is incredibly pathetic.
dittybopper: The other thing to consider is that the majority of those injuries are minor and may not even be from projectiles. Have your hand too far forward on a revolver? Get M-1 thumb? Prematurely eject a hang-fire and it goes "BANG!" in front of your face? Shoot with an obstruction in the barrel and it blows up? All are injuries that are gun related but not gunshot wounds.
justtray: Maul555: [considerreconsider.com image 547x192][origin.factcheck.org image 600x831][2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x231][www.moveleft.org image 850x597]There are different stats... but on the conservative side guns are used to protect someone or something 40 times per every 1 gun crime. The problem with gun control is that you cant just eliminate the bad, you eliminate the much bigger good as well... Gun control is the real killer here.[www.guns.com image 660x750]Wow another instant ignore. Take your propaganda elsewhere please. Your stats are 100% fabricated, I really hope you one day possess the intelligence required to see that.
Acravius: It is unfortunate that we don't have better data about these issues.That's because in 1996 the NRA successfully shut down Federal level research about gun violence.The good news is that 1n 2013, the CDC could resume research on gun violence and the causes of said violence.Maybe in a couple years of sifting through the incomplete data sets, that nobody since 1996 was required by any agency to file or report on, some semblance of what has been happening with guns and gun violence in these past 18 years.Hopefully the statistical signifigance of nearly 5,700,000 people who have been killed for whatever reason/motive/situation by guns in this country over the past 18 years, will give us some insight into ways to correct, decrease and diminish the annual slaughter that is part of the current American cultural landscape.Of course they have to interview the king of misinformation from the anti-gun lobby - Kellermann. However, his statements don't detract about the news that it has been 17 years since federal level research about the issue has been actively funded and pursued in any truly intellectual way.It would be nice to see that year 1 after the reinstatement of federal funding will produce some meaningful insight that can lead to informed legislation about how to proceed to protect rights while also reducing deaths by firearms. However, given the horrible data sets they have access to, it would probably take several more years of real complete data sets to even establish trends that would be meaningful in most areas of the country.http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/federal-scientists-can-again-r e search-gun-violence/2013/01/17/19d959fc-60e5-11e2-b05a-605528f6b712_st ory.html
MyRandomName: stonicus: MyRandomName: lordjupiter: It is a statistical CERTAINTY that you will be held up at gunpoint in public or in your home by some scruffy stranger. At the same time there is nearly NO chance whatsoever that you or a family member will accidentally or impulsively shoot someone, or use the weapon in a crime.So farking knock yourselves out.I've always wondered why those who cower in fear over guns dont cower in fear of the more numerous killers in life. Do you fear driving? Swimming pools? What about guns scare you so much.I don't fear driving, or guns. I fear idiots who drive and idiots who use guns.As for swimming pools, hellz yeah I am scared. Last week a swimming pool walked into a school and drowned a bunch of innocent students.Stay away from doctors then. You have the same statistical chance of being harmed by them as you do guns.
LoneWolf343: Maul555:[img.fark.net image 400x231]...So, against what are all those people defending themselves?/I smell messaged numbers.
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