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(demonews)   Comcast gave $854K to Congressional Committee overseeing their merger with Time Warner. The money will be delivered two weeks from Tuesday between 1 and 4 pm   (demonews.org) divider line 121
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2014-02-17 01:49:45 PM  
Real 'Mericans don't like you messing with their TV. We might have to resort to learnin' and readin'.

In all seriousness, Cable, Phone (wired), Cellular, and Internet are without real competition in this country. No one's offering me $9.99 all I can use like back in the heyday of dial up. Either we start cracking down on these collusions and near-monopolies or we can give up on the 21st Century.
 
2014-02-17 01:54:47 PM  
They didn't stop the #1 and #2 airlines from merging (American/USAir), they didn't stop the top cable provider from merging with the top content distributor (NBCU/Comcast), they didn't stop the biggest online provider from merging with the biggest producer (AOLTimeWarner).

What makes anyone think there is any such thing as antitrust or anti-monopoly law anymore? All the companies have to do is show, on paper, that consumers might possibly win some small victory in some small area; while sweeping under the rug things like "choice", "competition", "fair markets" and any notion that monopolies are bad for business - and forcing regulators to ignore the common sense that combining, say, Comcast and Time Warner will lead to even less consumer choice (as if there is choice in ISPs now - sure, maybe if you have your own house, and if the municipality hasn't yet sold you out to one of the Big Guys).
 
2014-02-17 01:55:21 PM  
net neutrality NOW.
 
2014-02-17 01:58:48 PM  
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2014-02-17 02:01:10 PM  

Onkel Buck: InterruptingQuirk: Representative Greg Walden, R-Ore., Chairman of the Subcommittee on Communications and Technology has received $53,000 from Comcast from January 1, 2001 - December 31, 2012.
Representative John Dingell,  D-Mich., has received $100,775 from Comcastfrom January 1, 2001 - December 31, 2012 more than any other member of the House of Representatives. He is a member of the Subcommittee on Communications and Technology.

So which one are we supposed to be mad at? The republican right?



JerkStore: This is what you farks wanted with your unlimited political donations and "corporations are people" bullshiat. Enjoy.

 
2014-02-17 02:02:30 PM  

MyRandomName: And yet the liberal  Democratic/Republican solution is a further consolidation of power to the federal government.


FTFY

No liberal person thinks that consolidation of power is a solution. In fact, most of us liberals want to diffuse that power to democratic vote as much as possible.

A doi.
 
2014-02-17 02:03:06 PM  
I am ditching Time Warner as we speak, so I am getting a kick...

/ever since Time Warner bought out Insight, I'd rather have been kicked in the nads than call their "customer service."
 
2014-02-17 02:05:10 PM  

BigBooper: mongbiohazard: I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you. Because this is so different from how our government is usually run. It's not like the people who we elect ostensibly as lawmakers actually spend more than half their time fundraising, so are more accurately described as fundraisers. Noooooooo...

/puke

Unless you start off very wealthy, and just buy a seat.
Of course most of the super wealthy are more inclined to buy a Senate seat.

/It's our version of the House of Lords


Except where is our House of Commons?
 
2014-02-17 02:05:19 PM  

notto: Methodology: MapLight analysis of campaign contributions to members of Congress from PACs and employees of Comcast Corp., from January 1, 2001 - December 31, 2012.

Comcast has 130,000 employees.

This methodology is BS.


Unless the contributions were bundled, a well-known campaign finance tactic. I forget...do cable and broadband companies ever offer bundles?
 
2014-02-17 02:05:51 PM  

Dr Dreidel: They didn't stop the #1 and #2 airlines from merging (American/USAir), they didn't stop the top cable provider from merging with the top content distributor (NBCU/Comcast), they didn't stop the biggest online provider from merging with the biggest producer (AOLTimeWarner).

What makes anyone think there is any such thing as antitrust or anti-monopoly law anymore? All the companies have to do is show, on paper, that consumers might possibly win some small victory in some small area; while sweeping under the rug things like "choice", "competition", "fair markets" and any notion that monopolies are bad for business - and forcing regulators to ignore the common sense that combining, say, Comcast and Time Warner will lead to even less consumer choice (as if there is choice in ISPs now - sure, maybe if you have your own house, and if the municipality hasn't yet sold you out to one of the Big Guys).


And who can forget how well breaking up monopolies works? They lose that power forever...sort of.  http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748704471904576229250 860034510?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB 10001424052748704471904576229250860034510.html
 
2014-02-17 02:08:07 PM  

Diogenes: And I just got my mom to get a bundle from Time Warner.

*sigh*


My parents are on TWC, The Worst Cable company on the planet. They can't manage to configure a DNS properly given several years and a copy Internet for Dummies. I've had to point their internet connection to external DNS on so many occasions I've lost count. I wrote a batch job to do it remotely because they are in Arizona and I live in CA.
 
2014-02-17 02:12:29 PM  

Slypork: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405274870447190457622925 0 860034510?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB 10001424052748704471904576229250860034510.html


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405274870447190457622925 0 860034510?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB 10001424052748704471904576229250860034510.html

For the Farkers who can't edit their links.
 
2014-02-17 02:13:09 PM  
Just a reminder from 2011...
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/f-c-c-commissioner- to -join-comcast/

Four months after the Federal Communications Commission approved a hotly contested merger of Comcast and NBC Universal, one of the commissioners who voted for the deal said on Wednesday that she would soon join Comcast's Washington lobbying office.

(bold is mine)
 
2014-02-17 02:13:27 PM  

jayphat: Slypork: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405274870447190457622925 0 860034510?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB 10001424052748704471904576229250860034510.html

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405274870447190457622925 0 860034510?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB 10001424052748704471904576229250860034510.html

For the Farkers who can't edit their links.


Fark won't link the WSJ because they put up paywalls for links. LOL.
 
2014-02-17 02:17:17 PM  
Corporations are people too.  They need some way to donate to political candidates.

This is just like you checking the "Donate $1 to the Presidential campaign fund" box on your taxes.
 
2014-02-17 02:19:51 PM  

JerkStore: This is what you farks wanted with your unlimited political donations and "corporations are people" bullshiat. Enjoy.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-17 02:20:31 PM  
Clearly if we had more government, this would not happen.

Need to raise those taxes now.
 
2014-02-17 02:21:21 PM  

Dimensio: AT&T UVerse suddenly seems like a viable option.


I have UVerse, I like it. Half price on the bundle I chose for two years, great picture and sound, good DVR, lots of sports channels, good deal.
Even without the discount I would pay 20% less than cable+phone+internet. Look into it.
 
2014-02-17 02:22:43 PM  

Phil Moskowitz: rosebud_the_sled: And the conservative position is a to do nothing. Ever.

The conservative position is to make government as corrupt as possible, then biatch about government corruption.


You are confused. That is the Democrat way.

And Rosebud, many times doing nothing is preferable, and doing nothing is always preferable to doing damage. Ever worked for an absolutely incompetent boss? A rock sitting on the desk would do a better job of managing, just because it would do less damage.
 
2014-02-17 02:23:41 PM  

AngryDragon: Corporations are people too.  They need some way to donate to political candidates.

This is just like you checking the "Donate $1 to the Presidential campaign fund" box on your taxes.


Ugh, I hate that damn box. I nearly clicked it this year.
 
2014-02-17 02:24:49 PM  

AngryDragon: Corporations are people too.  They need some way to donate to political candidates.

This is just like you checking the "Donate $1,000,000 to the Presidential campaign fund" box on your taxes.


FTFY
 
2014-02-17 02:25:53 PM  

happydude45: Phil Moskowitz: rosebud_the_sled: And the conservative position is a to do nothing. Ever.

The conservative position is to make government as corrupt as possible, then biatch about government corruption.

You are confused. That is the Democrat way.

And Rosebud, many times doing nothing is preferable, and doing nothing is always preferable to doing damage. Ever worked for an absolutely incompetent boss? A rock sitting on the desk would do a better job of managing, just because it would do less damage.



calitreview.com
 
2014-02-17 02:29:16 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Clearly if we had more government, this would not happen.

Need to raise those taxes now.


Um, yeah. If we had "more" government (read: "a government that could faithfully execute its duty to regulate commerce among the states, pursuant to laws like antitrust law rather than pursuant to whoever signs the checks"), mergers like this wouldn't be allowed to happen.

As it stands, it hasn't even happened yet, so all we have is a sense of foreboding.

// and the taxes "we"'d want raised are on Comcast and its highest earners anyway, and have nothing to do with a merger or not
// did we have "more" government in the early 20th Century when "trusts" were actually busted (once or twice)?
 
2014-02-17 02:29:44 PM  
Does anybody know....Where does Comcast compete with Time Warner Cable?  I'm pretty sure there is no place that they compete, so exactly how would their merger impact competition?
 
2014-02-17 02:32:51 PM  

jayphat: AngryDragon: Corporations are people too.  They need some way to donate to political candidates.

This is just like you checking the "Donate $1 to the Presidential campaign fund" box on your taxes.

Ugh, I hate that damn box. I nearly clicked it this year.


Oh come on.  You have an opportunity to fuel Lulz like when all those people fought over Perot's share (Reform Party) in the next election.  Buchanan, Maharaji Natural  Laws, etc, all fighting over that chump change.

Better than Bumfights!

Isn't that worth a checkmark that doesn't change your bottom line?
 
2014-02-17 02:33:12 PM  

tlars699: MyRandomName: And yet the liberal  Democratic/Republican solution is a further consolidation of power to the federal government.

FTFY

No liberal person thinks that consolidation of power is a solution. In fact, most of us liberals want to diffuse that power to democratic vote as much as possible.

A doi.


And yet, all your leaders are doing the opposite. King Obama!
 
2014-02-17 02:33:26 PM  

The Southern Dandy: Does anybody know....Where does Comcast compete with Time Warner Cable?  I'm pretty sure there is no place that they compete, so exactly how would their merger impact competition?


It wouldn't, they currently don't compete. But what it does do is give the resulting company a crap ton of market share, power that can be used to bully some of the corporations. See what happened with CBS and Time Warner just last year.
 
2014-02-17 02:35:44 PM  
I expect Comcast to get a $8,540,000 rate increase in the very near future.
 
2014-02-17 02:36:16 PM  

Thunderpipes: tlars699: MyRandomName: And yet the liberal  Democratic/Republican solution is a further consolidation of power to the federal government.

FTFY

No liberal person thinks that consolidation of power is a solution. In fact, most of us liberals want to diffuse that power to democratic vote as much as possible.

A doi.

And yet, all your leaders are doing the opposite. King Obama!


Who said they were my leaders? I didn't vote them into office. And liberal=/=democrat.
How many times do I have to explain this to you thunDERPipes?
 
2014-02-17 02:36:39 PM  

The Southern Dandy: Does anybody know....Where does Comcast compete with Time Warner Cable?  I'm pretty sure there is no place that they compete


Which in an of itself is a pretty strong argument for collusion and anti-trust.
 
2014-02-17 02:36:51 PM  
Less cable tv providers and Net Nuetrality losing ground.

I see where this is going.
 
2014-02-17 02:40:51 PM  
I'm hoping Brighthouse goes indie when TWC vanishes.  Sure they share that Roadrunner stuff.

But when TWC dumped supporting a Usenet server, BHN went out and contracted for one.

So I guess there's a faint hope.

/Using Earthlink via BHN cable at the moment.
//hoping I don't have to go ADSL
 
2014-02-17 02:45:46 PM  
Ugh, on a related note - Charter just told me their "vendor" deleted a ton of people's voicemail greetings this week, but it's not considered an outage (even though I cannot re-record a greeting). No ETA to fix, and they can't notify me when it is fixed because their system has no way to notify customers about issues/restoration of service unless it's a service outage (voicemail is considered a feature outage).

Awful. Gotta love the old "blame the vendor" line too
 
2014-02-17 02:50:40 PM  

HighlanderRPI: Ugh, on a related note - Charter just told me their "vendor" deleted a ton of people's voicemail greetings this week, but it's not considered an outage (even though I cannot re-record a greeting). No ETA to fix, and they can't notify me when it is fixed because their system has no way to notify customers about issues/restoration of service unless it's a service outage (voicemail is considered a feature outage).

Awful. Gotta love the old "blame the vendor" line too


If there was an area of the US law I want to see tightened, its the liability of corporations in regards to vendors and contract agents.  Stayed at a hotel(pretty sure it was Marriot) and friends car got a ding from the valet. When he talked to the hotel, they told him "it's not our responsibility, they are a contract service." Here is the problem I have. All the paperwork for valet check-in says Marriot all over it, on top of that they are wearing FARKING MARRIOT UNIFORMS.
 
2014-02-17 02:57:28 PM  

notto: Methodology: MapLight analysis of campaign contributions to members of Congress from PACs and employees of Comcast Corp., from January 1, 2001 - December 31, 2012.

Comcast has 130,000 employees.

This methodology is BS.


Oh, Sure.

I agree with you that this is obviously the result of a Rogue Employee with an agenda to embarrass the company, and all Comcast and Time Warner stockholders.

www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com
 
2014-02-17 02:58:53 PM  
Lobbying equals government-sanctioned corruption.

/it really  is that simple
//the US government is rife with corruption, has lain in bed with big business for decades, and no longer even makes a pretense of having any interest in what is right for small business or the common man.
 
2014-02-17 02:59:41 PM  
They told me if I voted for Romney, the country would be consumed by runaway crony capitalism. I voted for Romney and sure enough, the country is being consumed by runaway crony capitalism.

:(
 
2014-02-17 03:01:30 PM  

happydude45: Phil Moskowitz: rosebud_the_sled: And the conservative position is a to do nothing. Ever.

The conservative position is to make government as corrupt as possible, then biatch about government corruption.

You are confused. That is the Democrat way.

And Rosebud, many times doing nothing is preferable, and doing nothing is always preferable to doing damage. Ever worked for an absolutely incompetent boss? A rock sitting on the desk would do a better job of managing, just because it would do less damage.


Yea, like not regulating the banking industry has done such good for the public, and the economy.
 
2014-02-17 03:02:07 PM  

gweilo8888: Lobbying equals government-sanctioned corruption.

/it really  is that simple
//the US government is rife with corruption, has lain in bed with big business for decades, and no longer even makes a pretense of having any interest in what is right for small business or the common man.


And the American people have decided they don't care, as long as we keep getting our cheap crap from overseas and as long as we continue to be politics entertained on the TV between reality shows.
 
2014-02-17 03:02:50 PM  

jayphat: HighlanderRPI: Ugh, on a related note - Charter just told me their "vendor" deleted a ton of people's voicemail greetings this week, but it's not considered an outage (even though I cannot re-record a greeting). No ETA to fix, and they can't notify me when it is fixed because their system has no way to notify customers about issues/restoration of service unless it's a service outage (voicemail is considered a feature outage).

Awful. Gotta love the old "blame the vendor" line too

If there was an area of the US law I want to see tightened, its the liability of corporations in regards to vendors and contract agents.  Stayed at a hotel(pretty sure it was Marriot) and friends car got a ding from the valet. When he talked to the hotel, they told him "it's not our responsibility, they are a contract service." Here is the problem I have. All the paperwork for valet check-in says Marriot all over it, on top of that they are wearing FARKING MARRIOT UNIFORMS.


You could probably sue and win, but I agree with you that you shouldn't have to go through the trouble.  Its dishonest and shiatty
 
2014-02-17 03:04:28 PM  

JungleBoogie: They told me if I voted for Romney, the country would be consumed by runaway crony capitalism. I voted for Romney and sure enough, the country is being consumed by runaway crony capitalism.

:(


It's such a contrast, since it never was consumed by runaway crony capitalism before.
 
2014-02-17 03:07:13 PM  
They should all recuse themselves.
 
2014-02-17 03:16:32 PM  

jayphat: HighlanderRPI: Ugh, on a related note - Charter just told me their "vendor" deleted a ton of people's voicemail greetings this week, but it's not considered an outage (even though I cannot re-record a greeting). No ETA to fix, and they can't notify me when it is fixed because their system has no way to notify customers about issues/restoration of service unless it's a service outage (voicemail is considered a feature outage).

Awful. Gotta love the old "blame the vendor" line too

If there was an area of the US law I want to see tightened, its the liability of corporations in regards to vendors and contract agents.  Stayed at a hotel(pretty sure it was Marriot) and friends car got a ding from the valet. When he talked to the hotel, they told him "it's not our responsibility, they are a contract service." Here is the problem I have. All the paperwork for valet check-in says Marriot all over it, on top of that they are wearing FARKING MARRIOT UNIFORMS.


It's like those dump trucks that haul rocks that have the sticker on the back "Not Liable For Falling Debris"... how legal is that anyway?  Can I just put a sticker on my car that says "Not Liable If I Run You Over"?
 
2014-02-17 03:19:13 PM  
I use Comcast/XFinity for home ISP and cable TV, and have no serious gripes about the rates, or quality of service.  Although I do have an issue with the price including "Hillbilly Ghostbusters," whether or not I'll ever watch the show.

Cable TV channel selection options and rate adjustments is something Comcast will fight, to the bitter end.  (Which for me, would be as soon as I get around to synching up my laptop with my flat screen TV monitor.)
 
2014-02-17 03:29:08 PM  

LordJiro: So, why don't Comcast and this committee get punished for giving/accepting bribes?

Oh, right. Laws are for little people.


Leona Helmsley, is that you?
 
2014-02-17 03:30:16 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Clearly if we had more government, this would not happen.

Need to raise those taxes now.


You couldn't possibly BE more wrong. What we need is less government. If we didn't have things like pesky job-killing regulations, then the hard-working Job Creators wouldn't need to spend their hard-earned money to bribe the government into allowing them to screw their customers.
 
2014-02-17 03:38:20 PM  

CheapEngineer: happydude45: Phil Moskowitz: rosebud_the_sled: And the conservative position is a to do nothing. Ever.

The conservative position is to make government as corrupt as possible, then biatch about government corruption.

You are confused. That is the Democrat way.

And Rosebud, many times doing nothing is preferable, and doing nothing is always preferable to doing damage. Ever worked for an absolutely incompetent boss? A rock sitting on the desk would do a better job of managing, just because it would do less damage.

Yea, like not regulating the banking industry has done such good for the public, and the economy.


Many times does not equal all the time. And thank Clinton for the banking fiasco.,
 
2014-02-17 03:43:54 PM  
After this merger, will Comcast be too big to fail?
 
2014-02-17 03:46:57 PM  

CheapEngineer: notto: Methodology: MapLight analysis of campaign contributions to members of Congress from PACs and employees of Comcast Corp., from January 1, 2001 - December 31, 2012.

Comcast has 130,000 employees.

This methodology is BS.

Oh, Sure.

I agree with you that this is obviously the result of a Rogue Employee with an agenda to embarrass the company, and all Comcast and Time Warner stockholders.

[www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com image 300x225]


I had the same question, so I decided to go after the database. AAAAaaaand:

Data maintenance currently in process. Please check back soon.
http://maplight.org/data/get/federal-money-and-politics-dataset
 
2014-02-17 03:56:36 PM  
stonicus:
It's like those dump trucks that haul rocks that have the sticker on the back "Not Liable For Falling Debris"... how legal is that anyway?  Can I just put a sticker on my car that says "Not Liable If I Run You Over"?

Actually, it's perfectly legal, as defined by insurance companies and backed up by state laws on insurance. Falling items / road debris etc is not a liability issue with the insurance policy - it falls under the damaged vehicle owner's comprehensive policy (if they have one). Similar to hitting a deer. I settled many claims as an adjuster where my company's insured party called us to get help going after the other party due to road debris, and even my own company wouldn't pursue it - they'd just pay out under the comprehensive coverage. Oh, you have liability only? Sucks to be you, you're paying it out of pocket.

Not saying I agree with it, just that's how it is unfortunately.

//one of the many reasons why I got out of the insurance business
 
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