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(Guardian)   "As one who has been ageing happily since the day I was born, ageing is not a bad thing. In fact, every single woman I know looks better in her 30s and 40s than she did in her 20s and is a lot happier than she was in her 20s"   (theguardian.com) divider line 269
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2014-02-17 01:02:55 PM

Two16: baconbeard: [faqsmedia.ign.com image 363x310]

There are some hot women in their 40's. However, these are the ones that were jaw-droppingly, unbelievably, mind-bogglingly hot in their 20's.

Voted "Smart".


And they have professional make up artists with them at all times. Some of those Hollywood without the make up slide shows are scary. Slap enough make up on me, I too, would look like a 20 year old hot chick, just real tall.
 
2014-02-17 01:06:01 PM

Mugato: FunkOut: I don't really give a damn if someone compliments me. I assume they have a warped sense of perception.

Well I don't care if yo give a damn or not, I think you look cool. Your taste in music could use some work.


Agree.  I would certainly hit that . . .
 
2014-02-17 01:06:49 PM

indarwinsshadow: Fark_Guy_Rob: indarwinsshadow: Fark_Guy_Rob: indarwinsshadow: Dear Submittard;

Unless you're going to go out and walk in front of traffic later today, you too will one day join the ranks of the "Hey. Look. They're old".

Get used to it, you moron.

Yes - subby will age.  That doesn't mean subby will go around claiming all people of a certain age are more attractive than they were 20 years earlier.

From your bio;


Bio:
I split my time on Fark between calm, reasonable discussion, and trolling. The internet need not be serious business. I'm sorry if I've offended you.


Not offended, and if that's a troll. You need lessons....


Beauty fades. Stupid is forever.

It's not currently trolling.  I'm just pointing out the incredibly obvious difference between saying 40 year old women don't look better than 20 year old women and saying someone will never age.  I'm old and I'll continue to get old for a long while.  That doesn't blind me to the fact that getting old brings with it a lot of downsides, including looking crappier than the healthy, younger equivalent of your current self.

So, the idea that because you might be in poor shape = everyone who's your age must be in piss poor shape as well? Including women?

If you want to believe that, then believe it. I'm telling you, you're wrong.


No, not at all.  I'm not saying anything remotely close to that.

What I am saying is that, all other things being equal, a 20 year old woman (or man) will be in better physical shape than the same 40 year old woman (or man).  And that applies to physical attractiveness.

You can find exceptions where someone was really overweight at 20, or had a horrible fake tan, or acne, or any of a million things generally accepted as unattractive....and if you remove it when they are 40 - they might seem more attractive.  But excluding those edge cases, a normal woman at 20 is more attractive and in better shape than a normal woman at 40.  And it's equally true for men.  Even the most extreme examples, professional models/professional athletes can only keep it up for so long - and they have everything available to them.  Some regular Mom or Dad working a regular job and dealing with regular life problems isn't going to have plastic surgery, personal trainers, and every supplement known to man.  Aging is a losing proposition.

The fact that I'm also going to lose the age battle has no impact on my ability to recognize that it is happening.  The average 20 year-old girl is more physically attractive than the average 30 year-old.  Sorry, it's how it works.  Same deal with 30 v 40 and 40 v 50 and 50 v 60 and 60 v 70.

When a woman says EVERY SINGLE woman she knows looks better in her 30s/40s than she did in her 20s - she's lying or delusional.  It doesn't work that way.  That'd be like some guy saying 'EVERY sprinter he knows runs faster in her 30s/40s than they did in their 20s'.  It doesn't work that way.  The average age for an Olympic athlete is 26.  It's particularly true of sports that require pure physical attributes like weightlighting or sprinting.

We're designed to get old, fall apart, and die.  It's not attractive.  It's life.  Physically, most people are going to peak before 30.  Most girls I know personally, if you go back and look at their pictures - they peaked around 16-20 and have been getting chubbier and wrinklier ever since.  The guys I know don't fair any better, I'm not being sexist about it.
 
2014-02-17 01:13:08 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: You lose.
Nonstandard is nonstandard.
Simply because it's printed in a book doesn't make it acceptable use everywhere all the time.
It's all right though. this kind of misinterpretation is one of the pitfalls of teaching serfs to read.
You're forgiven. This is fark, after all.

/Professional national-level editor for a decade.


Actually, no. It is listed (and not even as being archaic or regional) by multiple major dictionaries, including probably the most respected dictionary in the world.

Just because you've got sand in your vag about it doesn't make it any less legitimate.

/yes, it's less common in the US than in some countries, but still quite frequently used and perfectly allowable
//And sorry to burst your bubble, but I've been a professional editor for a widely-read international publication for 15+ years. (It's OK, though. Had you not whipped yours out for comparison, I wouldn't be doing the same -- after all, it hardly proves anything, now, does it?)
 
2014-02-17 01:13:54 PM

mjbok: Oh_Enough_Already: True, but even if women are hotter at 30 than they are at 50 they're likely to be less batshiat farking insane, so pick your poison, gents.

I would suggest the opposite is true, partially due to faltering looks.  The crazy gene can be activated at any age, but the triggers tend to be more prevalent the older someone is.


They get... they get even crazier?

Dear God.
 
2014-02-17 01:16:12 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: That'd be like some guy saying 'EVERY sprinter he knows runs faster in her 30s/40s than they did in their 20s'. It doesn't work that way. The average age for an Olympic athlete is 26. It's particularly true of sports that require pure physical attributes like weightlighting or sprinting.

We're designed to get old, fall apart, and die. It's not attractive. It's life. Physically, most people are going to peak before 30. Most girls I know personally, if you go back and look at their pictures - they peaked around 16-20 and have been getting chubbier and wrinklier ever since. The guys I know don't fair any better, I'm not being sexist about it.


The sports thing is interesting because it has a good parallel.  When I was in my 20's I was fairly good at soccer.  In my 30's I had lost a few steps, some power on my shot, etc. but I was a better team player.  As my individual abilities diminished I had to adapt to the game.  I understood the game better and could "see the field" better than I could when I was younger.  Much of that was due to necessity, but it made me a more complete player.

However, if you were drafting a team and you could choose 25 or 35 year old me, you would be better picking 25 year old me.  The overall skill level wasn't as good, but the impact on the game was greater.

It is similar for aging and attractiveness.  People (both male and female) need to bring different skillsets to the table after their raw appeal starts to wane.  Humor, personality, etc. become much more important, plus as you get older you tend to think more about longer term relationships and these traits are much more important.  All beauty fades, but personalities don't have to.
 
2014-02-17 01:20:24 PM
Men don't age better either, from a cosmetic perspective. But much like apes or other creatures, grizzled, strong males simply get more respect because they are more powerful, experienced, and have more resources. A salt and peppered 50 year old man might be attractive because he has resources, power, knows how to deal with lesser males. But, he is not going to be modeling underwear and swooning the womyn that way. Conversly, a 50 year old woman who is very fit will be found much more attractive than a 50 year old dumpy women who is rich, because instinctively, women are supposed to look hot, young, and fertile. There are simple biological reasons for all of this.

This is why modern society sucks. They are forcing guys to become chicks and chicks to become guys. Chicks maintain the ability to be hot, gain the ability to be the provider, and guys lose the ability to be manly. Hope womyn like it when average Joe sits around the house eating candy and not working.
 
2014-02-17 01:22:56 PM
This must be the thread where a bunch of pups whine about how older people look so darn old, completely ignoring the fact that they and their significant other will be just that old a lot faster than they think they will be. It creeps up on you fast, kiddos.

I was extremely sexually active and not-unpopular when I was in my 20s. I got married, wasted almost two decades having lousy (or no) sex, and then got divorced and later married my high school sweetheart-- The one who (formerly) got away. The sex is WAY better in our 40s than it was in our 20s or teens, and we both look pretty good, too. Neither of us tans or smokes, and as a result we have better looking skin than a lot of people in their mid-20s.

It's not about age; It's about mileage, kiddos... And a lot of you are putting some heavy miles on that old bonebag of yours, and will look like flabby leather bags by the time you're in your early 30s. You don't need to live like a monk, but getting wasted, smoking like a chimney (smoking ANYthing will mess with your skin and lungs), and laying in the sun to get a tan (or worse, baking in an Easy-Bake Tanning Booth) will kill your looks. Overworking when you're young because you're trying to climb some sort of "success" ladder will add stress and wear-and-tear to that, making you feel older than you are.

But of course, you won't take this advice. You'll keep going, running on all cylinders until you finally hit that wall and look in the mirror one day to see a gnarled, spotty, crooked, beat-up, lined-faced, dry-skinned, paunchy, balding 32-year-old looking back at you... because when you're in your 20s you can't even imagine being 40 and you're all "YOLO"... Not realizing that though you do only live once, you're in that body for a long time, and your little 20-year stretch as a teen and 20-something is just a drop in the bucket. The other 60-80 years, you may be grateful if you took it easy when you were young and saved some of that vigor and beauty for the rest of your life.

People our age bump into us these days, and we look about 25 years younger than they do. They partied harder when they were young, and spent some of that time laughing about how Mrs. Nightbird and I were pale while everyone else was tanned and sober when everyone else was drunk. Now they look and feel like worn-out wrinkly crap, and we're the ones laughing... and then we go home and have sex all afternoon.

Moral of the story: Divorce is one of the best ideas humankind ever had... And oh, yeah- Take it easier on yourself when you're young because you will probably regret what you're doing to yourself when you're a little older and have to live with the consequences for another seven decades. You WILL care, then.
 
2014-02-17 01:25:26 PM

Nix Nightbird: ...


*clicks profile*...

Aw.
 
2014-02-17 01:25:43 PM
I've known some women who were plain Janes in their 20s (judging by photos) but took care of themselves through the years and hit a magnificent stride in their 40s or even 50s to somehow bloom into beautiful & sexy creatures.

It is uncommon but some people's looks do improve with age; not everybody's sweet spot is in their 20s.
 
2014-02-17 01:25:51 PM

Thunderpipes: Men don't age better either, from a cosmetic perspective. But much like apes or other creatures, grizzled, strong males simply get more respect because they are more powerful, experienced, and have more resources. A salt and peppered 50 year old man might be attractive because he has resources, power, knows how to deal with lesser males. But, he is not going to be modeling underwear and swooning the womyn that way. Conversly, a 50 year old woman who is very fit will be found much more attractive than a 50 year old dumpy women who is rich, because instinctively, women are supposed to look hot, young, and fertile. There are simple biological reasons for all of this.

This is why modern society sucks. They are forcing guys to become chicks and chicks to become guys. Chicks maintain the ability to be hot, gain the ability to be the provider, and guys lose the ability to be manly. Hope womyn like it when average Joe sits around the house eating candy and not working.



1954 called. They were looking for you.
 
2014-02-17 01:25:52 PM

baconbeard: Lapdance: I can't imagine a place with 40yr old Strippers. (Shivers, Shakes)

The last time I was in a strip club was about 15 years ago, in my local hometown dive. Things were going pretty well until the last "entertainer" of the evening. She was a slightly overweight woman in her mid to late 40's. There are some things that can't be unseen. On the drive home, my buddies and I sat in stunned silence, and have never spoken about that evening since.

I have not stepped foot inside a strip club since that horrible, fateful evening, so many years ago.



24.media.tumblr.com

Good lord, son, there should be a mandatory retirement age for strippers.
 
2014-02-17 01:28:47 PM
Motherfarkers who thought their ass would age like wine. If you mean ... If you mean it gets better with age, it don't.

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2014-02-17 01:29:56 PM
I call bullshiat. Exceptionally few women looks better in their 30s or 40s than they did in their 20s.  Happier? Sure.  Prettier. Heck no.
 
2014-02-17 01:31:25 PM

mjbok: Fark_Guy_Rob: That'd be like some guy saying 'EVERY sprinter he knows runs faster in her 30s/40s than they did in their 20s'. It doesn't work that way. The average age for an Olympic athlete is 26. It's particularly true of sports that require pure physical attributes like weightlighting or sprinting.

We're designed to get old, fall apart, and die. It's not attractive. It's life. Physically, most people are going to peak before 30. Most girls I know personally, if you go back and look at their pictures - they peaked around 16-20 and have been getting chubbier and wrinklier ever since. The guys I know don't fair any better, I'm not being sexist about it.

The sports thing is interesting because it has a good parallel.  When I was in my 20's I was fairly good at soccer.  In my 30's I had lost a few steps, some power on my shot, etc. but I was a better team player.  As my individual abilities diminished I had to adapt to the game.  I understood the game better and could "see the field" better than I could when I was younger.  Much of that was due to necessity, but it made me a more complete player.

However, if you were drafting a team and you could choose 25 or 35 year old me, you would be better picking 25 year old me.  The overall skill level wasn't as good, but the impact on the game was greater.

It is similar for aging and attractiveness.  People (both male and female) need to bring different skillsets to the table after their raw appeal starts to wane.  Humor, personality, etc. become much more important, plus as you get older you tend to think more about longer term relationships and these traits are much more important.  All beauty fades, but personalities don't have to.


Yeah - absolutely.  And certainly as I age I wouldn't be as interested in dating a 20 year-old girl for all of those other reasons (though I would still gravitate towards a girl younger than myself).

But the original quote was all about looks.
 
2014-02-17 01:31:47 PM

Zizzowop: CeroX: A 40's elbow:
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 240x320]

a 20's elbow:
[www.tenniselbowtips.com image 300x300]

I'll take the lower, thanks...

Uh, that's more like a 50's elbow, I'm over 40 and my elbow looks nothing like that thank you.


Nah. I'm over 50 and my elbow looks nothing like that, either.

I think I looked most attractive in my late 30s/early 40s. That said, I have no desire to be in my 20s or 30s again.

What's weird is, since I hit my late 40s, I get approached more by younger men (they appear to be in their 40s). Either guys at that age are turned on by saggy boobs and lumpy asses, or they think I'm desperate (I'm not).
 
2014-02-17 01:33:48 PM

CoonAce: I've known some women who were plain Janes in their 20s (judging by photos) but took care of themselves through the years and hit a magnificent stride in their 40s or even 50s to somehow bloom into beautiful & sexy creatures.

It is uncommon but some people's looks do improve with age; not everybody's sweet spot is in their 20s.


Totally agree. A lot of people blossom when the hit 30. Their youth is awkward, then suddenly they get a little maturity and BANG, they're ridiculously hot.

Some of the younger people here will witness that phenomenon when they go to their 10 or 20-year high school reunion. One plain-looking girl or guy will show up looking incredible, and nobody will recognize them... And instantly regret calling them "pizza face" throughout their school years.

The down side of this is that about 50% of the time, that person will have developed an attitude problem and will become a snotty jerk.

Looks ain't everything. The most physically beautiful person can appear ugly if they don't have an intellect or personality worth a damn.
 
2014-02-17 01:35:40 PM

Lorelle: Zizzowop: CeroX: A 40's elbow:
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 240x320]

a 20's elbow:
[www.tenniselbowtips.com image 300x300]

I'll take the lower, thanks...

Uh, that's more like a 50's elbow, I'm over 40 and my elbow looks nothing like that thank you.

Nah. I'm over 50 and my elbow looks nothing like that, either.

I think I looked most attractive in my late 30s/early 40s. That said, I have no desire to be in my 20s or 30s again.

What's weird is, since I hit my late 40s, I get approached more by younger men (they appear to be in their 40s). Either guys at that age are turned on by saggy boobs and lumpy asses, or they think I'm desperate (I'm not).


That is the elbow of a person who worshiped the sun a bit too much.

Really, people-- Tanning is the WORST thing you can do for your looks.
 
2014-02-17 01:39:12 PM

Nix Nightbird: CoonAce: I've known some women who were plain Janes in their 20s (judging by photos) but took care of themselves through the years and hit a magnificent stride in their 40s or even 50s to somehow bloom into beautiful & sexy creatures.

It is uncommon but some people's looks do improve with age; not everybody's sweet spot is in their 20s.

Totally agree. A lot of people blossom when the hit 30. Their youth is awkward, then suddenly they get a little maturity and BANG, they're ridiculously hot.

Some of the younger people here will witness that phenomenon when they go to their 10 or 20-year high school reunion. One plain-looking girl or guy will show up looking incredible, and nobody will recognize them... And instantly regret calling them "pizza face" throughout their school years.

The down side of this is that about 50% of the time, that person will have developed an attitude problem and will become a snotty jerk.

Looks ain't everything. The most physically beautiful person can appear ugly if they don't have an intellect or personality worth a damn.


I'm not saying those situations don't happen - but it's more about why they happen.  Even in your example, you mention pizza face.  So sure, someone who was unattractive because of X at age 20 could get rid of X at age 30.  But they still won't be as attractive as they would have been if they were 20 and didn't have X.

So sure, fat chick at 20 becomes hot fit chick at 30.
Chick with acne and crooked teeth gets clear skin and straight teeth at 30.
Or plain chick at 20 learns to wear make up, dresses nice, and gets a boob job at 30.

In all of those cases, they'd still be more attractive in their 20s, had they been able to make those changes.
 
2014-02-17 01:39:42 PM
Say, where is our favorite anti-aging, anti-technology blowhard, QA? A quick Fark search says he hasn't been on since October. Anyone know if he's ok?
 
2014-02-17 01:40:06 PM

Nix Nightbird: That is the elbow of a person who worshiped the sun a bit too much.

Really, people-- Tanning is the WORST thing you can do for your looks.


This is true. I have very few lines on my face because I was taught to use sunscreen at an early age.
 
2014-02-17 01:40:43 PM
I think most women peak in their teens because their metabolism and youth makes up for their terrible diet and lifestyle.
Granted, that's the natural peak for us as animals with a lifespan of 30 years.
 
2014-02-17 01:41:43 PM
I'm 28 and can probably throw on a backpack and walk into my local high school unnoticed. My old man looked super young and probably still would if it wasn't for a big divorce late in his life. I hope I can age as well as him minus the stress.
 
2014-02-17 01:48:35 PM

Nix Nightbird: This must be the thread where a bunch of pups whine about how older people look so darn old, completely ignoring the fact that they and their significant other will be just that old a lot faster than they think they will be. It creeps up on you fast, kiddos.

I was extremely sexually active and not-unpopular when I was in my 20s. I got married, wasted almost two decades having lousy (or no) sex, and then got divorced and later married my high school sweetheart-- The one who (formerly) got away. The sex is WAY better in our 40s than it was in our 20s or teens, and we both look pretty good, too. Neither of us tans or smokes, and as a result we have better looking skin than a lot of people in their mid-20s.

It's not about age; It's about mileage, kiddos... And a lot of you are putting some heavy miles on that old bonebag of yours, and will look like flabby leather bags by the time you're in your early 30s. You don't need to live like a monk, but getting wasted, smoking like a chimney (smoking ANYthing will mess with your skin and lungs), and laying in the sun to get a tan (or worse, baking in an Easy-Bake Tanning Booth) will kill your looks. Overworking when you're young because you're trying to climb some sort of "success" ladder will add stress and wear-and-tear to that, making you feel older than you are.

But of course, you won't take this advice. You'll keep going, running on all cylinders until you finally hit that wall and look in the mirror one day to see a gnarled, spotty, crooked, beat-up, lined-faced, dry-skinned, paunchy, balding 32-year-old looking back at you... because when you're in your 20s you can't even imagine being 40 and you're all "YOLO"... Not realizing that though you do only live once, you're in that body for a long time, and your little 20-year stretch as a teen and 20-something is just a drop in the bucket. The other 60-80 years, you may be grateful if you took it easy when you were young and saved some of that vigor and beauty for the rest ...


Indeed. I am 40 and am not nor have I ever been pretty. I rather look like Jackie Kennedy and Jim Morrison had gotten together and had an unattractive, midget daughter. However, I have never smoked, I don't drink to excess except on rare occasions, and I don't tan (I don't put on sunscreen as much as I should, though). Anyway, I am short and have decent skin and color my hair, so people always assume I am younger than I am. I also wear better clothes now and, yes, that does make a difference. Still, my skin and hair are showing their age more and more every day.
 
2014-02-17 01:49:02 PM
i think entirely too much time is spent thinking about age as a number. there are 30 year olds that look like 50, and there are 50 year olds that look like 30.  it's pretty simple, stay healthy, have an acceptable body, and don't tan or do meth.
 
2014-02-17 01:49:10 PM

WienerButt: I'm 28 and can probably throw on a backpack and walk into my local high school unnoticed. My old man looked super young and probably still would if it wasn't for a big divorce late in his life. I hope I can age as well as him minus the stress.


I was going to call bullshiat, but then I checked your profile. Being a senior in HS might be a bit of a stretch but if you told me you were a college freshman I wouldn't bat an eye.
 
2014-02-17 01:49:17 PM
From a pure physical standpoint, a hot 20 year old will always be hotter than a hot 40 year old.

That's just like, my opinion, man.
 
PJ-
2014-02-17 01:50:29 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: PJ-: I was somehow invited to a going away party for a manager at a restaurant the other day, so it gave me the chance to mingle with all sorts of ages.  The early 20 year old crowd was quite a pleasure to look at, it was made almost impossible to spend any kind of time with them as soon as they opened their mouth.  Most of their conversations involved discussion about their previous snap chat conversation with some random person.  The late 20s early 30s, were not as easy on the eyes, but happily walked away with their phone numbers.  It was nice not being ran off from a conversation, because they actually knew how to hold up a conversation.  The older ones than that, were battleaxes to look at, but almost worse than talking to the younger crowd.  All their conversations came to the same point, their ex-husband/boyfriend were complete assholes, and they better be coming up with the support payments for the kids.

Winner?  Don't date a server.

Well the important thing is you've found a way to be superior to ALL of them.

Good jorb.


What can I say, it's a gift.
 
2014-02-17 01:52:05 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Aging.
It's spelled AGING.Not AGEING.


Weird how a newspaper published in the UK uses the British spelling, eh?
 
2014-02-17 01:52:24 PM

Carousel Beast: Say, where is our favorite anti-aging, anti-technology blowhard, QA? A quick Fark search says he hasn't been on since October. Anyone know if he's ok?


It's against the rules to discuss such things, but he has most certainly posted far more recently than that.
Sounds like his recent history was pruned, and there's generally a reason behind that.
 
2014-02-17 01:58:48 PM

Lorelle: What's weird is, since I hit my late 40s, I get approached more by younger men (they appear to be in their 40s). Either guys at that age are turned on by saggy boobs and lumpy asses, or they think I'm desperate (I'm not).


Do you really want to know the reason for this?
 
2014-02-17 01:59:08 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Nix Nightbird: CoonAce: I've known some women who were plain Janes in their 20s (judging by photos) but took care of themselves through the years and hit a magnificent stride in their 40s or even 50s to somehow bloom into beautiful & sexy creatures.

It is uncommon but some people's looks do improve with age; not everybody's sweet spot is in their 20s.

Totally agree. A lot of people blossom when the hit 30. Their youth is awkward, then suddenly they get a little maturity and BANG, they're ridiculously hot.

Some of the younger people here will witness that phenomenon when they go to their 10 or 20-year high school reunion. One plain-looking girl or guy will show up looking incredible, and nobody will recognize them... And instantly regret calling them "pizza face" throughout their school years.

The down side of this is that about 50% of the time, that person will have developed an attitude problem and will become a snotty jerk.

Looks ain't everything. The most physically beautiful person can appear ugly if they don't have an intellect or personality worth a damn.

I'm not saying those situations don't happen - but it's more about why they happen.  Even in your example, you mention pizza face.  So sure, someone who was unattractive because of X at age 20 could get rid of X at age 30.  But they still won't be as attractive as they would have been if they were 20 and didn't have X.

So sure, fat chick at 20 becomes hot fit chick at 30.
Chick with acne and crooked teeth gets clear skin and straight teeth at 30.
Or plain chick at 20 learns to wear make up, dresses nice, and gets a boob job at 30.

In all of those cases, they'd still be more attractive in their 20s, had they been able to make those changes.


I'm not talking about reformed fatties, creepy plastic surgery, braces, or anything like that.  I'm talking about unchanged plain Janes who stay physically fit and somehow end up downright foxy in their 40s because their natural looks have aged really well.  Some people's looks are such that they look better older than young.

But beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so if you find older women a turnoff -- period -- then you will prefer the 20-year-old version no matter what.
 
2014-02-17 02:00:03 PM

Theaetetus: CeroX: A 40's elbow:
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 240x320]

a 20's elbow:
[www.tenniselbowtips.com image 300x300]

I'll take the lower, thanks...

I honestly can't say that I've ever spent a significant amount of time considering a woman's elbow. Are you sure you're not just looking for excuses for your asexuality?


My asexuality is my own damn fault... for getting married.
 
2014-02-17 02:01:39 PM
I like attractive older women not because they're better looking than hot 20-somethings (stop kidding yourself), but because they're attractive for their age AND probably capable of a full conversation AND are probably financially secure
 
2014-02-17 02:07:17 PM
Well, this thread is every bit as creepy as I was expecting it to be.

Congrats on maintaining the status quo, everyone.
 
2014-02-17 02:08:49 PM

baconbeard: Lorelle: What's weird is, since I hit my late 40s, I get approached more by younger men (they appear to be in their 40s). Either guys at that age are turned on by saggy boobs and lumpy asses, or they think I'm desperate (I'm not).

Do you really want to know the reason for this?


They're horny and haven't gotten any in ages.
 
2014-02-17 02:18:39 PM

mjbok: I. R. Rottweiler: Yeah, women over 40 are all wretched crones.

[i1058.photobucket.com image 600x319]

/ Really, I'm the first?

I don't know about the second and third pictures in that composite, but the JA one is from when she was 32.


ALL of those pictures were taken when those actresses were in their 30s. I. R. Rottweiler, you might have at least tried to find more recent pix if you wanted your point to hold any water.
 
2014-02-17 02:23:43 PM

SordidEuphemism: SordidEuphemism: I love the way she writes. I couldn't care less about her complexion.

Well, drat.


Hey, typo's happen.  The key part is that you know you made a mistake, and you aren't, in fact, a raging moron.

So take heart.  There are farkers that ACTUALLY think that 'could care less' is the correct statement.
 
2014-02-17 02:27:27 PM
I don't care about elbows.  Give me a woman over 30 who takes care of herself (to an extent) and loves live.  I really don't want to date anyone under 30 ever again.
 
2014-02-17 02:37:10 PM

CoonAce: Fark_Guy_Rob: Nix Nightbird: CoonAce: I've known some women who were plain Janes in their 20s (judging by photos) but took care of themselves through the years and hit a magnificent stride in their 40s or even 50s to somehow bloom into beautiful & sexy creatures.

It is uncommon but some people's looks do improve with age; not everybody's sweet spot is in their 20s.

Totally agree. A lot of people blossom when the hit 30. Their youth is awkward, then suddenly they get a little maturity and BANG, they're ridiculously hot.

Some of the younger people here will witness that phenomenon when they go to their 10 or 20-year high school reunion. One plain-looking girl or guy will show up looking incredible, and nobody will recognize them... And instantly regret calling them "pizza face" throughout their school years.

The down side of this is that about 50% of the time, that person will have developed an attitude problem and will become a snotty jerk.

Looks ain't everything. The most physically beautiful person can appear ugly if they don't have an intellect or personality worth a damn.

I'm not saying those situations don't happen - but it's more about why they happen.  Even in your example, you mention pizza face.  So sure, someone who was unattractive because of X at age 20 could get rid of X at age 30.  But they still won't be as attractive as they would have been if they were 20 and didn't have X.

So sure, fat chick at 20 becomes hot fit chick at 30.
Chick with acne and crooked teeth gets clear skin and straight teeth at 30.
Or plain chick at 20 learns to wear make up, dresses nice, and gets a boob job at 30.

In all of those cases, they'd still be more attractive in their 20s, had they been able to make those changes.

I'm not talking about reformed fatties, creepy plastic surgery, braces, or anything like that.  I'm talking about unchanged plain Janes who stay physically fit and somehow end up downright foxy in their 40s because their natural looks have aged really ...


I get that everyone has their own kinks - but I'm maintaining that physical attractiveness as defined by the median opinions of society are such that the 20 year old will always beat out the equivalent 40 year old.  That doesn't mean there is some guy out there who loves 70+ chicks.
 
2014-02-17 02:41:22 PM

Lorelle: baconbeard: Lorelle: What's weird is, since I hit my late 40s, I get approached more by younger men (they appear to be in their 40s). Either guys at that age are turned on by saggy boobs and lumpy asses, or they think I'm desperate (I'm not).

Do you really want to know the reason for this?

They're horny and haven't gotten any in ages.


Men are lazy. Older women are seen in the same light as the fat chicks at closing time (easy prey with little effort, in other words). Some older women mistake this as "attraction to the maturity, grace, and poise that an older woman possesses", and genuinely believe that the younger man is interested in a longer-term relationship.
 
2014-02-17 02:41:27 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I get that everyone has their own kinks - but I'm maintaining that physical attractiveness as defined by the median opinions of society are such that the 20 year old will always beat out the equivalent 40 year old.  That doesn't mean there is some guy out there who loves 70+ chicks.


If the only defining factor is what she looks like naked.  Maybe.

If you happen to care about more than that, almost never.
 
2014-02-17 02:42:02 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: indarwinsshadow: Fark_Guy_Rob: indarwinsshadow: Fark_Guy_Rob: indarwinsshadow: Dear Submittard;

Unless you're going to go out and walk in front of traffic later today, you too will one day join the ranks of the "Hey. Look. They're old".

Get used to it, you moron.

Yes - subby will age.  That doesn't mean subby will go around claiming all people of a certain age are more attractive than they were 20 years earlier.

From your bio;


Bio:
I split my time on Fark between calm, reasonable discussion, and trolling. The internet need not be serious business. I'm sorry if I've offended you.


Not offended, and if that's a troll. You need lessons....


Beauty fades. Stupid is forever.

It's not currently trolling.  I'm just pointing out the incredibly obvious difference between saying 40 year old women don't look better than 20 year old women and saying someone will never age.  I'm old and I'll continue to get old for a long while.  That doesn't blind me to the fact that getting old brings with it a lot of downsides, including looking crappier than the healthy, younger equivalent of your current self.

So, the idea that because you might be in poor shape = everyone who's your age must be in piss poor shape as well? Including women?

If you want to believe that, then believe it. I'm telling you, you're wrong.

No, not at all.  I'm not saying anything remotely close to that.

What I am saying is that, all other things being equal, a 20 year old woman (or man) will be in better physical shape than the same 40 year old woman (or man).  And that applies to physical attractiveness.

You can find exceptions where someone was really overweight at 20, or had a horrible fake tan, or acne, or any of a million things generally accepted as unattractive....and if you remove it when they are 40 - they might seem more attractive.  But excluding those edge cases, a normal woman at 20 is more attractive and in better shape than a normal woman at 40.  And it's equally true for men.  Even the ...


You had me right to "We're designed to get old, fall apart, and die. .". Um. No. We're not. I was never designed. I'm not a kit of parts someone puts together. I get what you're saying, but it's complete bullsh*t. You do realize that human evolution has allowed people to quadruple (or more) their life span in the past 10,000 years right? And I'm what I am now, because I worked to be what I am. That's the point you're completely missing. You get out of life what you put into it. Young, or new, isn't better. It's worse. It's inexperience, cockiness, and general ignorance. It's easy to die, it's making massive mistakes, and it's not sexy. It's get it over with, quick, and move on because it's lack of experience....That's not good. It's beta.

I'm getting the sense you're not satisfied with your own life, and you're projecting.

I see people who are young and fat and very unhealty, and then I see people who are over 30 looking fantastic, fit and mentaly fun. Youth is wasted on the young, quoting from It's a Wonderful life.

Part of being sexy, at any age, is the mind behind it. If you wanted a mindless f*ck, then buy a real doll.
 
2014-02-17 02:45:07 PM

FraggleStickCar: Well, this thread is every bit as creepy as I was expecting it to be.

Congrats on maintaining the status quo, everyone.


But if we stopped, you'd have to find a new place to go for your confirmation bias. And we couldn't have that now, could we?
 
2014-02-17 02:46:46 PM

FraggleStickCar: Well, this thread is every bit as creepy as I was expecting it to be.

Congrats on maintaining the status quo, everyone.


The one where we think young people are more physically attractive than old people? Why can't humans just stop being human, damn it.
 
2014-02-17 02:51:17 PM

FunkOut: See, that's the excellent thing about always having been ugly. I may look like the Cryptkeeper or Nancy Reagan now at 36 but I experience no depression about having gotten old and gross because I have always had that cackling hunchbacked crone attitude in life. Bopping around thinking "I want to be a pretty pretty princess! Where is my Prince Charming?" is so much less fun than striding about shrieking "I will get you my pretty, and your little dog too! Mwa hah hah hah!"

What I'm saying is that stringing some voodoo charms on your mountain bike is a surefire way for people to leave it alone when you're in the grocery store.


And an evil witch cackle is a great party trick.

/And kids like it, oddly enough.
 
2014-02-17 02:51:41 PM

baconbeard: Lorelle: baconbeard: Lorelle: What's weird is, since I hit my late 40s, I get approached more by younger men (they appear to be in their 40s). Either guys at that age are turned on by saggy boobs and lumpy asses, or they think I'm desperate (I'm not).

Do you really want to know the reason for this?

They're horny and haven't gotten any in ages.

Men are lazy. Older women are seen in the same light as the fat chicks at closing time (easy prey with little effort, in other words). Some older women mistake this as "attraction to the maturity, grace, and poise that an older woman possesses", and genuinely believe that the younger man is interested in a longer-term relationship.


Exactly. A couple of Saturdays ago I went to a local supermarket, sans makeup, with my hair down, wearing a frumpy old dress and Birkenstocks, and was approached by a younger guy who told me I was very beautiful and wanted to take me out. I told him I wasn't interested, but he insisted upon giving me his phone number. I again told him I wasn't interested, he persisted, and I finally told him to take a hike (using slightly different language).

Last Wednesday, I was at a local gas station, putting gas into my car, while dressed in office attire (a nice dress, stockings, nice shoes), and had my hair up and makeup on. I was approached by an older man who told me I would be prettier if I lost some weight, then he proceeded to tell me that he had lost over 100 pounds. I congratulated him, finished pumping gas, then got into my car and drove away.

Some men can't get it through their heads that just because a woman is old and fat, it doesn't mean that she's desperate.
 
2014-02-17 02:59:37 PM

Lorelle: baconbeard: Lorelle: baconbeard: Lorelle: What's weird is, since I hit my late 40s, I get approached more by younger men (they appear to be in their 40s). Either guys at that age are turned on by saggy boobs and lumpy asses, or they think I'm desperate (I'm not).

Do you really want to know the reason for this?

They're horny and haven't gotten any in ages.

Men are lazy. Older women are seen in the same light as the fat chicks at closing time (easy prey with little effort, in other words). Some older women mistake this as "attraction to the maturity, grace, and poise that an older woman possesses", and genuinely believe that the younger man is interested in a longer-term relationship.

Exactly. A couple of Saturdays ago I went to a local supermarket, sans makeup, with my hair down, wearing a frumpy old dress and Birkenstocks, and was approached by a younger guy who told me I was very beautiful and wanted to take me out. I told him I wasn't interested, but he insisted upon giving me his phone number. I again told him I wasn't interested, he persisted, and I finally told him to take a hike (using slightly different language).

Last Wednesday, I was at a local gas station, putting gas into my car, while dressed in office attire (a nice dress, stockings, nice shoes), and had my hair up and makeup on. I was approached by an older man who told me I would be prettier if I lost some weight, then he proceeded to tell me that he had lost over 100 pounds. I congratulated him, finished pumping gas, then got into my car and drove away.

Some men can't get it through their heads that just because a woman is old and fat, it doesn't mean that she's desperate.


Yeah, men are pretty stupid when it comes to stuff like that...
 
2014-02-17 03:06:52 PM
Of course I'm older and happier. I don't have much choice about the older, and I can't do much about the looks, except get some kind of freaky surgery (that would make me unhappy), so I might as well be happy with what I have.

You know, "better than the alternative."

/Which is dead, in case you're slow.
 
2014-02-17 03:07:23 PM
 
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