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(Guardian)   "As one who has been ageing happily since the day I was born, ageing is not a bad thing. In fact, every single woman I know looks better in her 30s and 40s than she did in her 20s and is a lot happier than she was in her 20s"   (theguardian.com ) divider line
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2014-02-17 11:08:42 AM  

FLMountainMan: Yeah, I didn't read the article, obviously. Sorry for the prating.


Not at all, you're expressing your opinion, I'm expressing mine. There is no right or wrong, but I think that youthful skin is very important. Not so much as to bath in the blood of virgins important, but still.
 
2014-02-17 11:09:03 AM  
Wrinkly or smooth who cares as long as they are not sharp.
 
2014-02-17 11:11:07 AM  
If chicks were as nice in their 30's and 40's, millionaires wouldn't be going after the 20 something hotties. Same for men, we just can use money as more of an equalizer. A rich 40 something man is attractive because of his wallet.
 
2014-02-17 11:11:39 AM  

proteus_b: FLMountainMan: Yeah, I didn't read the article, obviously. Sorry for the prating.

Not at all, you're expressing your opinion, I'm expressing mine. There is no right or wrong, but I think that youthful skin is very important. Not so much as to bath in the blood of virgins important, but still.


Psst, they weren't virgins!  If you wanted virgins, you shouldn't have told me to watch them.
 
2014-02-17 11:11:50 AM  

otto the bull: Wrinkly or smooth who cares as long as they are not sharp.


What an unsharp elbow looks like:

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-17 11:19:48 AM  

proteus_b: FLMountainMan: I admit on average, twenty year old women are hotter than thirty year old women. However, many women finally start to clean up in their thirties - lose weight, stop binge drinking, smoking etc. An evolutionary psychologist would probably argue that some of this coincides with the usual significant income increase that comes for most men/husbands in their thirties and forties. The competitive pressure increases.

The exact topic under consideration by the article, their skin, pretty much makes the difference though. A slightly chubby 22 year old will generally be more attractive than a svelte 38 year old. Maybe in a photograph you'd take the second one, but if you really want to lick every portion of someone's body, it's probably preferable that they be soft and young.


I just threw up in a mouth. So thanks.
 
2014-02-17 11:20:25 AM  

CeroX: A 40's elbow:
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 240x320]

a 20's elbow:
[www.tenniselbowtips.com image 300x300]

I'll take the lower, thanks...


If you can see her elbows, you're doing it wrong.
 
2014-02-17 11:20:46 AM  
Some of them look alright until they're coming after you with that per-arthritic claw. It's like getting "the old low five" from a velociraptor.
 
2014-02-17 11:21:10 AM  

Fano: The Googles Do Nothing: I know I'm hotter in my 40s than in my 20s.

That's the menopause


Ok. This made me larf
 
2014-02-17 11:22:32 AM  
30 year old women are, in fact, much cuter than 20 year old women.

I've known this for years.

But by 40... it's tough to stay good lookin'.

/Men are the same way, but it takes far less effort to look good until at least 50.
 
2014-02-17 11:23:09 AM  

reaperducer: CeroX: A 40's elbow:
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 240x320]

a 20's elbow:
[www.tenniselbowtips.com image 300x300]

I'll take the lower, thanks...

If you can see her elbows, you're doing it wrong.


I have no words...
 
2014-02-17 11:23:14 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-02-17 11:25:33 AM  
faqsmedia.ign.com

There are some hot women in their 40's. However, these are the ones that were jaw-droppingly, unbelievably, mind-bogglingly hot in their 20's.
 
2014-02-17 11:26:40 AM  
I think I look better at 35 than I did at 25; I'm eating and sleeping better, and taking better care of myself. I know there's a sharp drop off coming in the nex decade though. With any luck I'll be aging like Mallory Archer, not Peggy Bundy.
 
2014-02-17 11:27:02 AM  

5monkeys: I just threw up in a mouth. So thanks.


Sure you did, but whose?
 
2014-02-17 11:27:07 AM  
Yeah, women over 40 are all wretched crones.

i1058.photobucket.com

/ Really, I'm the first?
 
2014-02-17 11:27:21 AM  
I may not look better than I did at 20, but when I was 20 I thought I was hideously fat and ugly. (I wasn't even overweight, much less ugly.) At 47, I'm *actually* fat, but I'm happier with myself -- including my body -- than I ever was back then.

I'd rather be who I am now, fat and all, than have my 20-year-old body back and hate myself again. What makes some older women beautiful isn't that we're objectively prettier, but because we've learned to love ourselves as we are, and it shows.

/Recently saw some video of myself at 23, during what had at that time been the best week of my life. The first thing that struck me about it was that I never once smiled. There was a kind of pained smirk at one point, but not a single smile. It made me really sad for my younger self. It sucks a lot less to be me now.
 
2014-02-17 11:28:44 AM  

jake3988: 30 year old women are, in fact, much cuter than 20 year old women.

I've known this for years.

But by 40... it's tough to stay good lookin'.

/Men are the same way, but it takes far less effort to look good until at least 50.


On a purely aesthetic level the 30/20 argument is possibly debatable, but I still think you're wrong.  A 40/20 or 40/30 isn't even debatable.

On a non-aesthetic level the story is completely different.  I find that as women age the gap between hot and cute enough shrinks quite a bit.  Personality becomes so much more important than raw looks beyond a certain point, and there is a certain joy seeing formerly hot people broken by the ravages of time that never needed to learn to have a personality.
 
2014-02-17 11:29:19 AM  

I. R. Rottweiler: Yeah, women over 40 with personal trainers are all wretched crones.

[i1058.photobucket.com image 600x319]

/ Really, I'm the first?


FTFY
 
2014-02-17 11:29:37 AM  
Such disappoint in this thread. I'll try to fix, so we can have examples of what we're discussing.

20s

3.bp.blogspot.com

30s

dailyman40.com

40s

skinnythighs.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-17 11:31:08 AM  

I. R. Rottweiler: Yeah, women over 40 are all wretched crones.

[i1058.photobucket.com image 600x319]

/ Really, I'm the first?


I don't know about the second and third pictures in that composite, but the JA one is from when she was 32.
 
2014-02-17 11:32:14 AM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Such disappoint in this thread. I'll try to fix, so we can have examples of what we're discussing.

20s

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x566]

30s

[dailyman40.com image 660x330]

40s

[skinnythighs.files.wordpress.com image 700x862]


I'll take the 30's.
 
2014-02-17 11:32:54 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Aging.
It's spelled AGING.

/Not AGEING.


Wrong according to Random House.  Wrong according to Collins.

Wrong according to the Oxford English Dictionary.

Both aging and ageing are allowable according to all three, and probably others too.

/when grammar / spelling naziing, it's best to check your own beliefs for accuracy before hitting submit.

5monkeys: I just threw up in a mouth. So thanks.


Just a random one that was passing, or do you employ somebody to receive your vomit?
 
2014-02-17 11:34:25 AM  

Thunderpipes: If chicks were as nice in their 30's and 40's, millionaires wouldn't be going after the 20 something hotties. Same for men, we just can use money as more of an equalizer. A rich 40 something man is attractive because of his wallet.


Guys generally age better
 
2014-02-17 11:35:51 AM  

gweilo8888: HotIgneous Intruder: Aging.
It's spelled AGING.

/Not AGEING.

Wrong according to Random House.  Wrong according to Collins.

Wrong according to the Oxford English Dictionary.

Both aging and ageing are allowable according to all three, and probably others too.

/when grammar / spelling naziing, it's best to check your own beliefs for accuracy before hitting submit.

5monkeys: I just threw up in a mouth. So thanks.

Just a random one that was passing, or do you employ somebody to receive your vomit?


It's even a worse job than Assistant Coke Whore.
 
2014-02-17 11:35:53 AM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Such disappoint in this thread. I'll try to fix, so we can have examples of what we're discussing.

20s

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x566]

30s

[dailyman40.com image 660x330]

40s

[skinnythighs.files.wordpress.com image 700x862]


I'll have the sampler, please.
 
PJ-
2014-02-17 11:37:42 AM  
I was somehow invited to a going away party for a manager at a restaurant the other day, so it gave me the chance to mingle with all sorts of ages.  The early 20 year old crowd was quite a pleasure to look at, it was made almost impossible to spend any kind of time with them as soon as they opened their mouth.  Most of their conversations involved discussion about their previous snap chat conversation with some random person.  The late 20s early 30s, were not as easy on the eyes, but happily walked away with their phone numbers.  It was nice not being ran off from a conversation, because they actually knew how to hold up a conversation.  The older ones than that, were battleaxes to look at, but almost worse than talking to the younger crowd.  All their conversations came to the same point, their ex-husband/boyfriend were complete assholes, and they better be coming up with the support payments for the kids.

Winner?  Don't date a server.
 
2014-02-17 11:38:27 AM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Such disappoint in this thread. I'll try to fix, so we can have examples of what we're discussing.

20s

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x566]

30s

[dailyman40.com image 660x330]

40s

[skinnythighs.files.wordpress.com image 700x862]


Non-airbrushed:
upload.wikimedia.org

Still very attractive, but not nearly as much so as she was in her 20s and 30s.
 
2014-02-17 11:45:49 AM  
Actually, in my 40s now, I look and feel so much better than I did in my 20s. I'm fully independent, very happy and extremely sexually satisfied. Never came close to any of that in my 20s.
 
2014-02-17 11:46:54 AM  

Lapdance: I can't imagine a place with 40yr old Strippers. (Shivers, Shakes)


The last time I was in a strip club was about 15 years ago, in my local hometown dive. Things were going pretty well until the last "entertainer" of the evening. She was a slightly overweight woman in her mid to late 40's. There are some things that can't be unseen. On the drive home, my buddies and I sat in stunned silence, and have never spoken about that evening since.

I have not stepped foot inside a strip club since that horrible, fateful evening, so many years ago.
 
2014-02-17 11:49:29 AM  

gweilo8888: Wrong according to Random House.  Wrong according to Collins.

Wrong according to the Oxford English Dictionary.

Both aging and ageing are allowable according to all three, and probably others too.

/when grammar / spelling naziing, it's best to check your own beliefs for accuracy before hitting submit.


You lose.
Nonstandard is nonstandard.
Simply because it's printed in a book doesn't make it acceptable use everywhere all the time.
It's all right though. this kind of misinterpretation is one of the pitfalls of teaching serfs to read.
You're forgiven. This is fark, after all.

/Professional national-level editor for a decade.
 
2014-02-17 11:50:53 AM  

CeroX: A 40's elbow:
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 240x320]

a 20's elbow:
[www.tenniselbowtips.com image 300x300]

I'll take the lower, thanks...


Damn, this is nearly as bad as "sharp knees".
 
2014-02-17 11:50:56 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Aging.
It's spelled AGING.


Stop your whineing.
 
2014-02-17 11:57:55 AM  

theorellior: I wouldn't do her, her elbow is too wrinkly.

Comedy gold.


LOL, agreed.
 
2014-02-17 11:58:34 AM  
See, that's the excellent thing about always having been ugly. I may look like the Cryptkeeper or Nancy Reagan now at 36 but I experience no depression about having gotten old and gross because I have always had that cackling hunchbacked crone attitude in life. Bopping around thinking "I want to be a pretty pretty princess! Where is my Prince Charming?" is so much less fun than striding about shrieking "I will get you my pretty, and your little dog too! Mwa hah hah hah!"

What I'm saying is that stringing some voodoo charms on your mountain bike is a surefire way for people to leave it alone when you're in the grocery store.
 
2014-02-17 11:59:27 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The one good thing that can be said about aging is that it beats the alternative


: )
 
2014-02-17 12:00:58 PM  

proteus_b: It would be great to see evidence of a single case of this ever happening---a woman looking better in her 30s than in her 20s. Of 25 billion women who have ever lived, it has probably never happened.


the only way would be if in her 20s she was very overweight and generally did not care about her appearance, and then got in shape in her 30s

unlikely, but i have seen it happen
 
2014-02-17 12:01:42 PM  

I. R. Rottweiler: Yeah, women over 40 are all wretched crones.

[i1058.photobucket.com image 600x319]

/ Really, I'm the first?


I'm not saying that women in their 30s and 40s can't be hot you have to admit to some cherry picking there. Besides, that shot of Aniston was when she was still on Friends. We don't need to get into the Photoshop aspect.

Monica Bellucci is still awesome
as is Salma Hayek, Rose McGowan (she had half her face torn off in a car accident), Allissa Milano, Jeri Ryan, Alicia Witt and Drew Barrymore.

but still, not exactly a random sampling of every woman.
 
2014-02-17 12:01:52 PM  

FunkOut: See, that's the excellent thing about always having been ugly. I may look like the Cryptkeeper or Nancy Reagan now at 36 but I experience no depression about having gotten old and gross because I have always had that cackling hunchbacked crone attitude in life. Bopping around thinking "I want to be a pretty pretty princess! Where is my Prince Charming?" is so much less fun than striding about shrieking "I will get you my pretty, and your little dog too! Mwa hah hah hah!"

What I'm saying is that stringing some voodoo charms on your mountain bike is a surefire way for people to leave it alone when you're in the grocery store.


*Clicks profile*

Huh, if you consider yourself ugly, I must be an Adonis.
 
2014-02-17 12:03:43 PM  
...forgot Sofia Vergara
 
2014-02-17 12:04:27 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Nonstandard is nonstandard.


I'm pretty sure non-standard is supposed to be hyphenated.

HotIgneous Intruder: It's all right though. this kind of misinterpretation is one of the pitfalls of teaching serfs to read.


I know that words at the beginning of a sentence are supposed to be capitalized.

//Not an editor.  Stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
 
2014-02-17 12:06:31 PM  
I'll take 30s every time.  At least late 20s.  And I'm just talking looks, nevermind that whole conversation thing.

The appeal for women in their 20s is that you don't have to talk to them or take them seriously.  They generally have either terrible self esteem, are gold digging, or believe they are soooo much more mature than boys their own age.  The whole "daddy issues" thing only comes up occasionally and usually turns women into super-sluts with partners of various ages.

Often the women don't recognize that they are being manipulated by older men or are attracted to money.  They simply see a person they want to be married to in 15 years and try to skip ahead.  They say things that sound better than "he has money" like "he's stable" or "he's responsible".  Let's be honest, women like gestures and gifts and if you can afford to send a gesture like flowers, take her on a the vacation of a lifetime, or do something special for her she's probably going to stick around to put out.
 
2014-02-17 12:07:42 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: A farking commercial for facial cream??

Anyway, certainly not all women look better in their 30s or 40s, but a lot of women look great and even better at those ages, and self-confidence and knowing oneself is part of it.


Wrong. Most do not look  better. The ones that do tended to look a little lanky or manish when they were in their 20s.
 
2014-02-17 12:08:25 PM  
One thing that I have noticed about women in their 40's who perpetually claim that there's "no good men out there" is that they're usually operating under the premise that they're still as attractive and desirable as they were when they were in their 20's, and feel entitled to men who are quite simply out of their league. The early part of their adult life was characterized by being able to effortlessly attract young, fit, handsome men, and they still haven't come to terms with the fact that those days are gone. Hence men become "jerks", "players", "unrealistic", etc. etc.

Let's face it: if you're a woman in her 40's (possibly slightly overweight), that buff, hot, 32 year old guy that you've got your eye on probably has much better options available to him.
 
2014-02-17 12:08:58 PM  
40+ yr. old celebrities are the exception, not the rule. Most fortysomethings don't exercise, eat right, get much physical activity, or take care of themselves beyond the thinnest minimum. So they look like sh*t as a result.
 
2014-02-17 12:09:59 PM  

CeroX: otto the bull: Wrinkly or smooth who cares as long as they are not sharp.

What an unsharp elbow looks like:

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x480]


Looks like she's carrying a sad midget under her arm...
 
2014-02-17 12:10:06 PM  

indarwinsshadow: Fark_Guy_Rob: indarwinsshadow: Dear Submittard;

Unless you're going to go out and walk in front of traffic later today, you too will one day join the ranks of the "Hey. Look. They're old".

Get used to it, you moron.

Yes - subby will age.  That doesn't mean subby will go around claiming all people of a certain age are more attractive than they were 20 years earlier.

From your bio;


Bio:
I split my time on Fark between calm, reasonable discussion, and trolling. The internet need not be serious business. I'm sorry if I've offended you.


Not offended, and if that's a troll. You need lessons....


Beauty fades. Stupid is forever.


It's not currently trolling.  I'm just pointing out the incredibly obvious difference between saying 40 year old women don't look better than 20 year old women and saying someone will never age.  I'm old and I'll continue to get old for a long while.  That doesn't blind me to the fact that getting old brings with it a lot of downsides, including looking crappier than the healthy, younger equivalent of your current self.
 
2014-02-17 12:10:30 PM  
Skinny women sometimes look better in their 40's but for the most part women are on a downhill slide after their early to mid 20's.
 
2014-02-17 12:11:47 PM  

La Maudite: I may not look better than I did at 20, but when I was 20 I thought I was hideously fat and ugly. (I wasn't even overweight, much less ugly.) At 47, I'm *actually* fat, but I'm happier with myself -- including my body -- than I ever was back then.

I'd rather be who I am now, fat and all, than have my 20-year-old body back and hate myself again. What makes some older women beautiful isn't that we're objectively prettier, but because we've learned to love ourselves as we are, and it shows.

/Recently saw some video of myself at 23, during what had at that time been the best week of my life. The first thing that struck me about it was that I never once smiled. There was a kind of pained smirk at one point, but not a single smile. It made me really sad for my younger self. It sucks a lot less to be me now.


This is my experience exactly. I was so self-hating in my 20's that I had no idea that I was beautiful and thus could not enjoy it. I see pictures of me 20 years ago and get so sad/upset. Stupid young adulthood.

I'm 43 now and while not physically hot anymore, I've become completely confident and have a mature attractiveness that I'm fine with. I'm happier now than I've ever been, and plan to enjoy the rest of my 40's until real aging sets in.
 
2014-02-17 12:12:28 PM  

blatz514: FunkOut: See, that's the excellent thing about always having been ugly. I may look like the Cryptkeeper or Nancy Reagan now at 36 but I experience no depression about having gotten old and gross because I have always had that cackling hunchbacked crone attitude in life. Bopping around thinking "I want to be a pretty pretty princess! Where is my Prince Charming?" is so much less fun than striding about shrieking "I will get you my pretty, and your little dog too! Mwa hah hah hah!"

What I'm saying is that stringing some voodoo charms on your mountain bike is a surefire way for people to leave it alone when you're in the grocery store.

*Clicks profile*

Huh, if you consider yourself ugly, I must be an Adonis.


You must be young. When a woman goes on about how "ugly" she is, she's actually fishing for a compliment (i.e. "attention whoring").

So when a woman tells you that she's "ugly", the correct response is "Don't let that get you down, I'm sure you've got a great personality"
 
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