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(CBS Miami)   Shooter shoots Shooter's, shrapnel shared   ( divider line
    More: Scary, corrections officer, concealed handgun, Miami-Dade  
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3588 clicks; posted to Main » on 17 Feb 2014 at 7:08 AM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2014-02-17 10:57:39 AM  
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AngryDragon: No revolver is ever carried with an empty chamber.

Except, you know, up through the 1980s due to the fact that the firing pin was attached to the hammer and with the hammer down it could very easily be knocked forward, causing the primer to be pierced and the cartridge to fire.

This is why there are no revolvers made this way anymore, and they all have several types of transfer bars or other mechanisms to make this impossible.
2014-02-17 09:16:27 AM  
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Mad-n-FL: The best way to carry any gun is with the chamber empty, the extra 2 seconds it takes to jack a round into the chamber are a price you should be able to pay if you keep aware of your surroundings.

No thanks. I'll stick to Condition 1 as my 1911 was designed, and as every sane instructor, be they LEO or civilian, instructs.
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2014-02-17 07:36:54 AM  
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GCD: Whole Wheat: In before "all gun owners are bad and all guns should be banned"

He was carrying a concealed, loaded handgun with the safety off.

The guy's an idiot.

For the record, most modern concealable handguns don't have external safeties.  Now, there's the 1911's that have them, and the higher ends guns, but for the most part, the glocks, small .380's and small 9's et al have heavy trigger pulls or some sort of 'finger on trigger in the right spot' sort of safety.

Now, the more expensive handguns, like the sig 229 for example, can come equipped with a decocker, essentially making them like a double action (similar to a revolver for the first shot).

So, the double action heavy trigger pull along with the finger safety are usually all thats necessary.  This guy managed to take the fun out of being safe while carrying, and any AD is a bad AD.

2014-02-17 07:34:28 AM  
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GCD: Whole Wheat: In before "all gun owners are bad and all guns should be banned"

He was carrying a concealed, loaded handgun with the safety off.

The guy's an idiot.

Apparently you're not familiar with modern handguns; many have no manual safety.  Generally, they have several internal safeties, including but not limited to something designed to prevent the gun from going off if it gets dropped, but any time you pull the trigger with a round in the chamber, it's going off.  That emphatically does NOT make carrying them loaded idiotic, as long as a holster that covers the trigger guard is used.  Seems that the officer in question may have been pocket carrying w/o a holster, which *is* idiotic.

Regardless of the particular reason why he should be classified as an idiot, he injured 6 innocent bystanders in an incident which had nothing to do with "in the line of duty."  IMO he should be held personally liable for their medical bills, etc, just as any private citizen would.  Also, of course, most metro areas have statutes forbidding discharging a firearm inside city limits except in a circumstance requiring it for self defense, etc.  Seems like some sort of negligence charge would also be reasonable.
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