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(CBS Miami)   Shooter shoots Shooter's, shrapnel shared   ( miami.cbslocal.com) divider line
    More: Scary, corrections officer, concealed handgun, Miami-Dade  
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2014-02-17 12:03:08 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: wildlifer: Kit Fister: fluffy2097: GCD: Whole Wheat: In before "all gun owners are bad and all guns should be banned"

He was carrying a concealed, loaded handgun with the safety off.

The guy's an idiot.

Corrections officer. Glock. No external safety.

Yet another reason I'll never own glocks.

Seriously, why people cream themselves over those things is a mystery to me.

The three internal safeties are more than adequate.
But if course the ultimate safety is your brain matter. The brain controls your booger hook, which at factory conditions requires 6 pounds of force to pull the trigger.
A glock just doesn't go boom by itself, it requires human input. Unless the idiot tried his hand at kitchen table gunsmithing.

Those internal safeties are so much more than adequate that there's a phrase for their more than adequacy.
Maybe you've heard of it: Glock leg.

/And 1911s are so much less than adequate there is no analogous term for the inadequacy of their manual safeties.
//You can't negligently discharge a firearm with an empty chamber, either.


Funny how bars are the only place where "glock leg" occurs. Maybe we should ban alcohol.

/surely only calm and reasonable discussion can come from this
 
2014-02-17 12:07:15 PM  
The thing I can't understand is why so many Farkers seem to think that this news article would give enough information, accurately that they can say a damn thing about what happened.
 
2014-02-17 12:15:38 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Funny how bars are the only place where "glock leg" occurs. Maybe we should ban alcohol.

/surely only calm and reasonable discussion can come from this


1. that's not true. In fact, glock leg has occurred in a lot of places, from squad cars to classrooms to the range.

2. In the vast majority of states, it is illegal to bring a firearm into a place that serves alcohol*

/* - This is usually defined as a place that makes the majority of its revenues from the sales of alcohol
 
2014-02-17 12:21:14 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Those internal safeties are so much more than adequate that there's a phrase for their more than adequacy.
Maybe you've heard of it: Glock leg.

/And 1911s are so much less than adequate there is no analogous term for the inadequacy of their manual safeties.
//You can't negligently discharge a firearm with an empty chamber, either.


Funny how bars are the only place where "glock leg" occurs. Maybe we should ban alcohol.

/surely only calm and reasonable discussion can come from this


Yeah.
Right.
OK.
Sure.
Only in bars.

/And gun stores, Home Depots, police stations, pickups, and cars, houses,..
 
2014-02-17 12:23:22 PM  
Wonder if he's related to this guy...
http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Bridgeport-cop-shoots-self-in-the- l eg-5071216.php">http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Bridgeport-cop-sho ots-self-in-the-l eg-5071216.php
 
2014-02-17 12:33:29 PM  
Just found this as a follow-up.  Could it be true??!?  An Officer is actually being held to the same laws the rest of us would be?!??!?
 
2014-02-17 01:01:22 PM  
This is why cops should not be aloud to have guns.
 
2014-02-17 02:25:41 PM  

Capt.Plywood: The thing I can't understand is why so many Farkers seem to think that this news article would give enough information, accurately that they can say a damn thing about what happened.


We get our exercise by jumping to conclusions.
 
2014-02-17 06:19:28 PM  
Here's another Responsible Gun Owner who's proud of his pistol's safety features.
 
2014-02-18 06:02:29 PM  

Mad-n-FL: The best way to carry any gun is with the chamber empty, the extra 2 seconds it takes to jack a round into the chamber are a price you should be able to pay if you keep aware of your surroundings.


Like when the two guys that were walking past my house and suddenly decided i must be guy they were looking for as they cornered me between my house and my fence. Or when a guy that popped out from behind a building and tried to open my car door on me.  less than 2 seconds - all i had time for was to put one gun hand up to the door while the other hand was steering me as i rapidly drove my car away... yep. I really had extra time to chamber a round.   No extra time there either.
Or the guy that was hiding in some tall grass and waiting for my back to be exposed before he jumped out?  I'm don't have x-ray vision, I can't see through stuff.

If you REALLY want to take an extra 2 seconds, you go right ahead.  I'm well aware of how fast things can jump off around here.
Since 2 seconds are more than I seem to get, i'll keep mine chambered without a safety and holstered properly. It's worked for me before and i see no reason to downgrade my readiness.

IvanTheSilent: I'm not either, but due to dress code at work, it's either pocket carry, ankle carry or no carry, and if your gun is on your ankle, it might as well be on the moon.  I do IWB with a full sized Bersa Thunder 9 Pro HC when I'm in jeans and a t-shirt, or can wear any sort of jacket.

I have a CompTac Minotaur that lets me tuck dress shirts in over the IWB holster.  I'm small so it's not perfect at concealing a full-frame gun, but it works well enough to pass most glances.
 
2014-02-18 06:38:02 PM  

ThatGuyOverThere: Mad-n-FL: The best way to carry any gun is with the chamber empty, the extra 2 seconds it takes to jack a round into the chamber are a price you should be able to pay if you keep aware of your surroundings.

Like when the two guys that were walking past my house and suddenly decided i must be guy they were looking for as they cornered me between my house and my fence. Or when a guy that popped out from behind a building and tried to open my car door on me.  less than 2 seconds - all i had time for was to put one gun hand up to the door while the other hand was steering me as i rapidly drove my car away... yep. I really had extra time to chamber a round.   No extra time there either.
Or the guy that was hiding in some tall grass and waiting for my back to be exposed before he jumped out?  I'm don't have x-ray vision, I can't see through stuff.

If you REALLY want to take an extra 2 seconds, you go right ahead.  I'm well aware of how fast things can jump off around here.
Since 2 seconds are more than I seem to get, i'll keep mine chambered without a safety and holstered properly. It's worked for me before and i see no reason to downgrade my readiness.

I have a CompTac Minotaur that lets me tuck dress shirts in over the IWB holster.  I'm small so it's not perfect at concealing a full-frame gun, but it works well enough to pass most glances.


*sniffs* Smells like fertilizer. Better check though. Could be cabin fever.

*AHEM* Do the voices in your head tell you to move to Florida or Texas?
 
2014-02-18 06:41:43 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: *sniffs* Smells like fertilizer. Better check though. Could be cabin fever.

*AHEM* Do the voices in your head tell you to move to Florida or Texas?


Come walk around Detroit at night outside of the safety bubble of the downtown entertainment district.
It's funner that way.
 
2014-02-18 07:19:31 PM  

ThatGuyOverThere: demaL-demaL-yeH: *sniffs* Smells like fertilizer. Better check though. Could be cabin fever.

*AHEM* Do the voices in your head tell you to move to Florida or Texas?

Come walk around Detroit at night outside of the safety bubble of the downtown entertainment district.
It's funner that way.


You normally stalk the deserted streets of Detroit at night?
/*misses Greektown*
//*and Lebanese food in Dearborn*
///*and Detroit pizza*
\\\I must be hungry.
 
2014-02-18 07:40:42 PM  
demaL-demaL-yeH: You normally stalk the deserted streets of Detroit at night?
/*misses Greektown*
//*and Lebanese food in Dearborn*
///*and Detroit pizza*
\\\I must be hungry.


Sometimes... - you should know that in the winter we don't see much sunlight. Also, the 2 guys were in the suburbs during a power-out at night. I was out with a flashlight checking my roof for storm damage and they were out looking to take advantage of the cops being stretched thin. Power-outs and disasters are what worry me most, because people go nuts. during the big midwest-to-northeast black out way back when, car alarms were the only sounds I heard all night long.
 
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