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(Telegraph)   Don't Hold Your Breath News: 14 Caribbean states are demanding that Britain, France and Holland pay slavery reparations   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 174
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2014-02-16 03:49:17 PM
They farking should
 
2014-02-16 03:53:57 PM
Here we go...

i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-16 03:57:53 PM

spentshells: They farking should


I wholeheartedly agree.  Those plantation owners were bilked out of labor  - LOTS of labor that affected their ability to produce and sell.  It is an outrage that has long since required rectification.
 
2014-02-16 03:59:26 PM

AngryDragon: Here we go...

[i.imgur.com image 243x279]


What? I voted Funny
 
2014-02-16 03:59:28 PM
Dont be silly subby, everyone knows slavery only happened in the American South, there was no other slavery anywhere else in the world evar before or since.
 
2014-02-16 04:00:11 PM
Har har, like any of those colonial powers ever gave a shiat about what happened to the wogs and coolies after they were done with them, or after they were ungraciously shown the door.
 
2014-02-16 04:00:47 PM
What about reparations for the crusades?  And the French need to pay for what they did in 1066. How far back do we want to go?
 
2014-02-16 04:00:56 PM
"I think it is fair for we to get a bit of compensation for what all our people been through."

media.yourdailymedia.com
 
2014-02-16 04:02:15 PM
You know what the lawyers will say: you should have said something during decolonialization.
 
2014-02-16 04:02:22 PM
Wouldn't it make more sense to realize that every culture has wronged some other culture at some point and we should instead just figure it is all a wash and move forward?

/No, I guess not.
//That does make too much sense.
 
2014-02-16 04:03:18 PM
They want money from the same countries that pay the interest on the loans from WWII to the U.S. instead of paying the principal because it's cheaper and maintains their loan status?
 
2014-02-16 04:04:01 PM
Won't happen, but I'll gladly pay top dollar for some of your pulled jerk pork.
 
2014-02-16 04:04:56 PM
And if any of those slaves were still alive I'm sure they would,  but they're not so they won't.

A British politician said something pretty much along these lines about 4 years ago,  it was awesome I wish I kept the story / quote.
 
2014-02-16 04:06:22 PM
Is Kohinoor still part of the Crown Jewels? Are the limeys and the frogs holding on to art looted from the rest of the world? In that case I think we know What the answer is going to be for the troubles of Jamaica, Barbados, Haiti et all.
 
2014-02-16 04:07:33 PM
They should also be asking that Spain and Portugal pay up, as well (especially Spain).
 
2014-02-16 04:10:27 PM
Minus room and board and we are square right?
 
2014-02-16 04:13:11 PM

ClavellBCMI: They should also be asking that Spain and Portugal pay up, as well (especially Spain).


Funny enough, the Spaniards were the worst wealth administrators ever, since they flooded the silver market.
 
2014-02-16 04:13:13 PM
"Estimates of the percentage of the population of Italy who were slaves range from 30 to 40 percent in the 1st century BC, upwards of two to three million slaves in Italy by the end of the 1st century BC, about 35% to 40% of Italy's population. Slaves were drawn from all over Europe and the Mediterranean, including Celts, Germans, Thracians, Greeks, Carthaginians, and black Africans, usually called "Ethiopians" in Greek and Latin sources."

Only if the Italians pay first. We Celts have been waiting for reparation for longer.

In other news, the poorest under classes who have *never* been slave owners and their descendents should be exempt. If your family can be shown to have earned its wealth from slavery then you are subject to reparation.

I get sick of the blanket racism applied to white people in cases like this. Just because some black guys treat you unfairly at some point does not give you the right to make claims against all black guys (and gals). The same is true whatever colour people are. Most white people and their ancestors have never been slave owners. The implication of this reparation is that everyone from Britain (or their ancestors) and the other countries are guilty of slavery unless the reparation will be from individuals. This is an implication I reject.

At some point you just have to say frkkit and get on with your life and not blame other people. Do they want us to ship them back to Africa and take back the indies?
 
2014-02-16 04:14:04 PM
I'm sorry, the people who committed those crimes against humanity are long dead, as are their victims.

They got away with it.  But that doesn't change the fact that no one alive today is responsible for slavery in the Caribbean.
 
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2014-02-16 04:15:42 PM
America should demand a tribute of $5 every time a Confederate flag or sticker, moon pie, or NASCAR ticket is sold.
 
2014-02-16 04:15:47 PM

ClavellBCMI: They should also be asking that Spain and Portugal pay up, as well (especially Spain).


They should include the Arabic world and the countries in west Africa. Their ancestors did most of the work in rounding up slaves and getting them to the ports.
 
2014-02-16 04:18:10 PM
I would consider the welfare state handouts of the last 50 years more than sufficient reparations.
 
2014-02-16 04:18:15 PM
You'll get a tearful, hand-wringing letter of apology and LIKE it, buddy.
 
2014-02-16 04:19:29 PM
Yeah, but slaves didn't pay any money for their dwellings, clothes, medical care, and food. So it all balances out.

Or maybe they should receive a free ticket back to Africa, but that's the most.
 
2014-02-16 04:19:31 PM
"I think it is fair for we to get a bit of compensation for what all our people been through."

No it's not fair that people who committed no crimes should give money to people who suffered no crime.

That really should be the end of it.
 
2014-02-16 04:23:18 PM

Slaxl: "I think it is fair for we to get a bit of compensation for what all our people been through."

No it's not fair that people who committed no crimes should give money to people who suffered no crime.

That really should be the end of it.


How dare you recognize that people are individuals, instead of interchangeable and disposable instances of a 'culture'?!?!?!
 
2014-02-16 04:24:35 PM
I think we can all agree that if we look at where people have been unpleasant to other people over all of history it is not restricted to one set of people picking particularly on another except the rich picking on the poor or the rich paying the poor to be unpleasant to other poor people.

As a poor person I demand reparation from the rich. It`s always the rich.

This case fall under the same umbrella. The rich farked over the poor, just from a different country.

If any of you are in the 1% then you have not been farked over by them.

If you are not in the 1% then you have.

This is currently going on but like a slave, you have food, clothes, a house and a family, NASCAR and WWF so you don`t complain...
 
2014-02-16 04:25:31 PM
Well, okay.  But to begin the process, we'll need a copy of your last pay stub from the employer in question.
 
2014-02-16 04:27:52 PM

zzrhardy: Minus room and board and we are square right?


Everybody would like to own a slave but few consider the tremendous upkeep involved.
 
2014-02-16 04:27:57 PM
"I think it is fair for we us to get a bit of compensation for what all our people have been through."

FTFG

You can imagine the conversation...

"Look, we`ll get `your people` and `my people` to arrange a meeting over lunch and we`ll get this all sorted out. What do you mean they`re all dead?"
 
2014-02-16 04:29:21 PM
Why shouldn't the African and Arab slave traders pay?
 
2014-02-16 04:29:46 PM

zzrhardy: Minus room and board and we are square right?


I know I'm going to hell for this, but that made me laugh so farking hard....
 
2014-02-16 04:29:52 PM

Boo_Guy: And if any of those slaves were still alive I'm sure they would,  but they're not so they won't.

A British politician said something pretty much along these lines about 4 years ago,  it was awesome I wish I kept the story / quote.


shiat, that's a Dave Chappelle bit. "If you can prove that you personally was a slave in the American south I'll give you a million dollars.
 
2014-02-16 04:33:04 PM

spawn73: Why shouldn't the African and Arab slave traders pay?


But its only bad when the white crackers bought them its not bad when the Blacks or arabs did it and you are just a uncultured xenophobe for saying anything bad about them doing it.
 
2014-02-16 04:33:07 PM
Pfffft hahahahaha.
White guilt may be an incredible force of nature, but it's not omnipotent.
 
2014-02-16 04:33:35 PM
didn't we abolish paying for slaves????


/they started it
 
2014-02-16 04:34:47 PM
From the comments, a lot of Britons are strongly in favor of repatriations.
 
2014-02-16 04:34:56 PM

dready zim: "Estimates of the percentage of the population of Italy who were slaves range from 30 to 40 percent in the 1st century BC, upwards of two to three million slaves in Italy by the end of the 1st century BC, about 35% to 40% of Italy's population. Slaves were drawn from all over Europe and the Mediterranean, including Celts, Germans, Thracians, Greeks, Carthaginians, and black Africans, usually called "Ethiopians" in Greek and Latin sources."

Only if the Italians pay first. We Celts have been waiting for reparation for longer.

In other news, the poorest under classes who have *never* been slave owners and their descendents should be exempt. If your family can be shown to have earned its wealth from slavery then you are subject to reparation.

I get sick of the blanket racism applied to white people in cases like this. Just because some black guys treat you unfairly at some point does not give you the right to make claims against all black guys (and gals). The same is true whatever colour people are. Most white people and their ancestors have never been slave owners. The implication of this reparation is that everyone from Britain (or their ancestors) and the other countries are guilty of slavery unless the reparation will be from individuals. This is an implication I reject.

At some point you just have to say frkkit and get on with your life and not blame other people. Do they want us to ship them back to Africa and take back the indies?


The Gaul of some people.
In order to effect a reasonable balance, the EU has agreed to return 60% of all calypso records now in private hands, and a 20% net return on the motion pictures "Cool Runnings" and "The Mighty Quinn" and a surtax to be reckoned on every use of the phrase "Jamaica, mon" in television comedies.
 
2014-02-16 04:35:21 PM

LeroyBourne: Won't happen, but I'll gladly pay top dollar for some of your pulled jerk pork.


You know, this is true.

I, a white man, should start up a business that imports real Jamaican pulled jerk pork into American restaurants.  I can create a huge influx of money to Jamaican pig farmers and food processors.  Then, when Farkers learn that the company is owned by a white American, I can be vilified for exploiting those poor Jamaican workers.  "Modern day slave trade," they will say.
 
2014-02-16 04:35:27 PM
Anyone ever hear about the Highland Clearances?

/where's my money?
 
2014-02-16 04:35:32 PM

DarkVader: I'm sorry, the people who committed those crimes against humanity are long dead, as are their victims.

They got away with it.  But that doesn't change the fact that no one alive today is responsible for slavery in the Caribbean.


Please, this is Fark.  We'll have no common sense and logic here, my friend.
But race baiting, bullying, guilt and income redistribution are always welcome!
 
2014-02-16 04:35:44 PM
Hahahahah

Oh christ this is adorable.

"We feel WE are owed because hundreds of years ago our ancestors suffered. So give us monies. Now."

If only there were some way to teach the entire world that no one is owed anything and you only get what you take/steal/earn/etc.
 
2014-02-16 04:36:53 PM
Isn't it the case that virtually all of the Africans exported to the West were sold by other Africans?  They should sue themselves.
 
2014-02-16 04:36:55 PM
Western countries spend billions on aid of all kinds. At the very least, I could see Britain, France and Holland raising some cash for a fund to invest in the economic development of these Caribbean states.
 
2014-02-16 04:36:58 PM

spawn73: Why shouldn't the African and Arab slave traders pay?


i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-16 04:37:57 PM

Billy Liar: dready zim: "Estimates of the percentage of the population of Italy who were slaves range from 30 to 40 percent in the 1st century BC, upwards of two to three million slaves in Italy by the end of the 1st century BC, about 35% to 40% of Italy's population. Slaves were drawn from all over Europe and the Mediterranean, including Celts, Germans, Thracians, Greeks, Carthaginians, and black Africans, usually called "Ethiopians" in Greek and Latin sources."

Only if the Italians pay first. We Celts have been waiting for reparation for longer.

In other news, the poorest under classes who have *never* been slave owners and their descendents should be exempt. If your family can be shown to have earned its wealth from slavery then you are subject to reparation.

I get sick of the blanket racism applied to white people in cases like this. Just because some black guys treat you unfairly at some point does not give you the right to make claims against all black guys (and gals). The same is true whatever colour people are. Most white people and their ancestors have never been slave owners. The implication of this reparation is that everyone from Britain (or their ancestors) and the other countries are guilty of slavery unless the reparation will be from individuals. This is an implication I reject.

At some point you just have to say frkkit and get on with your life and not blame other people. Do they want us to ship them back to Africa and take back the indies?

The Gaul of some people.
In order to effect a reasonable balance, the EU has agreed to return 60% of all calypso records now in private hands, and a 20% net return on the motion pictures "Cool Runnings" and "The Mighty Quinn" and a surtax to be reckoned on every use of the phrase "Jamaica, mon" in television comedies.


I can chip in with a 1997 Laurel Aitken t-shirt.
 
2014-02-16 04:38:24 PM

TomD9938: zzrhardy: Minus room and board and we are square right?

Everybody would like to own a slave but few consider the tremendous upkeep involved.


That's why interns are preferred these days. All the benefits of slavery, and none of the costs.
 
2014-02-16 04:38:36 PM
As a person with Slavic ancestry, I'd like Italy to cut me a check right now and we'll call it even.
 
2014-02-16 04:38:50 PM
No some person or country wanted the UK to apologize for slavery and one of their politicians came out and said that if they weren't all dead he would.

/I miss Dave Chappelle,  why did he have to go all mental and get his show killed.
//He was worried about being a "sellout" to the black community,  like most of them wouldn't sell their own mothers for the kinda cash he was getting.
 
2014-02-16 04:38:58 PM
I love Haiti and the Dominican republic.  One side becoming prosperous, the other side a mud hole.  And that was before the natural disaster.
 
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