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2014-02-16 11:46:53 AM
throwing rocks is serious business.

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2014-02-16 11:52:31 AM
Oh my darlin'
Oh my baby
You got the moves that drive me crazy
 
2014-02-16 01:05:08 PM
Probably kids throwing them, let's get a predator up there and blow them away.


And then we can bomb the funerals!
 
2014-02-16 01:05:39 PM
Seriously. I could snap you like a twig. Don't annoy me.
 
2014-02-16 01:06:20 PM
some people have serious stones if they're farking with border patrol
 
2014-02-16 01:13:32 PM
It's nice that the Palestinian PR machine is in working order, generating sympathy for a Palestinian kid killed for throwing rocks but none for the Israeli civilians - including women and children - who were deliberately targeted by suicide bombers or the children of southern Israel who are within range of the Qassam rockets shot from Gaza.
 
2014-02-16 01:15:13 PM

Nogale: It's nice that the Palestinian PR machine is in working order, generating sympathy for a Palestinian kid killed for throwing rocks but none for the Israeli civilians - including women and children - who were deliberately targeted by suicide bombers or the children of southern Israel who are within range of the Qassam rockets shot from Gaza.


RTFA fail
 
2014-02-16 01:17:38 PM
Border Patrol won't mandate use of less-lethal weapons where attacks are frequent.

Aww geeez, can't we just shoot em' a little.
 
2014-02-16 01:18:48 PM
i1145.photobucket.com

"You do not throw rocks at a man who's got a machine gun!"
 
2014-02-16 01:19:37 PM

duffblue: Probably kids throwing them, let's get a predator up there and blow them away.


And then we can bomb the funerals!


I like the way you think. ;0
 
2014-02-16 01:33:37 PM

Cerebral Ballsy: Nogale: It's nice that the Palestinian PR machine is in working order, generating sympathy for a Palestinian kid killed for throwing rocks but none for the Israeli civilians - including women and children - who were deliberately targeted by suicide bombers or the children of southern Israel who are within range of the Qassam rockets shot from Gaza.

RTFA fail


Also geography fail.

Although OP's fark handle is interesting.
 
2014-02-16 01:38:11 PM
B-52s "carpet rocking?".
 
2014-02-16 01:39:18 PM
Arizona is to Gaza as the United States is to ____________.
 
2014-02-16 01:39:45 PM
let's find a rock, I mean a big ass rock

/where's my hand basket?
 
2014-02-16 01:49:57 PM
Lotsa desperadoes in Nogales throwing those rocks.  Here's what a Nogales Desperado might look like.

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2014-02-16 01:53:24 PM
FN-303 Less Lethal  www.fnherstal.com

Sting Grenade:   img2.wikia.nocookie.net

Oh. My. God.

That looks like SO MUCH FUN!

It's grown up NERF guns!! Paintball, you are dead to me from now on. DEAD
 
2014-02-16 02:00:42 PM
I remember in the 90s when you could just get in the car and drive to Rocky Point, or Guaymas, or San Carlos, rent a house on the beach for $300 for a three-day weekend, and just have a drunken wonderful time. That's all shot to shiat now. I don't like going south of Tucson now.
 
2014-02-16 02:10:17 PM
That was the case at about 3 a.m. on Jan. 5, 2011. During a rocking on Escalada Drive, an agent radioed in, urgently asking for a pepper-ball launcher to be brought there. But moments later, an agent - the heavily redacted report doesn't say whether it was the same one - fired his M4 rifle through the fence into Mexico.
And 17-year-old Ramses Barron Torres fell to the ground, shot through the chest.


Good start, it's clear we need more like this instead of the "less violent" methods.

"If you take pictures of my friends we will take your cameras," he yelled in Spanish. "Don't take pictures. Get the f--k out of here."

"If you try to touch our cameras, we'll full you full of holes, little uppity maggot!"

Seriously, why do we tolerate this?
 
2014-02-16 02:22:05 PM

duffblue: Probably kids throwing them, let's get a predator up there and blow them away.


When a rock caves in an agent's skull, the age of the one throwing it doesn't matter. Deal with them the way you'd deal with any attacker using  a deadly weapon.
 
2014-02-16 02:22:29 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I remember in the 90s when you could just get in the car and drive to Rocky Point, or Guaymas, or San Carlos, rent a house on the beach for $300 for a three-day weekend, and just have a drunken wonderful time. That's all shot to shiat now. I don't like going south of Tucson now.


I live in Hermosillo, btw. It's not Michoacan.

Also, I discussed with a friend why there isn't any self-defense groups here in Sonora. The answer was pretty simple: The local drug gangs have yet to touch civilians. Down in Michoacan and Veracruz they did the mistake of doing whatever it is they wanted. Here yes, there have been shootouts, but they have been killing their own (mostly), and there is people still dumb enough to look at them as they were some sort of Robin Hood, instead of the scum that they really are.

However, the people are getting restless, not with the cartels, but with the government. They raised taxes, they raised gas prices, the minimum wage raise is a joke (25 cents), the new work reform is a GOP's wet dream if they ever passed it in the US, and removed a summer tax cut on electricity, which could make a lot of people angry.
 
2014-02-16 02:35:15 PM
If you're dumb enough to throw rocks at the border patrol force of another country, I will have no sympathy for you when they decide to respond with appropriate (and many times it's lethal) force.
 
2014-02-16 02:41:10 PM

joness0154: If you're dumb enough to throw rocks at the border patrol force of another country, I will have no sympathy for you when they decide to respond with appropriate (and many times it's lethal) force.


This, in most cases.

/The only case I might disagree is if it is an invading force
 
2014-02-16 02:43:34 PM

CygnusDarius: ecmoRandomNumbers: I remember in the 90s when you could just get in the car and drive to Rocky Point, or Guaymas, or San Carlos, rent a house on the beach for $300 for a three-day weekend, and just have a drunken wonderful time. That's all shot to shiat now. I don't like going south of Tucson now.

I live in Hermosillo, btw. It's not Michoacan.


Not a total shiat sandwich then.

Don't worry Fakers, Most of Mexico is still a paradise.  Just do your research and enjoy!
 
2014-02-16 02:46:07 PM

Turbo Cojones: CygnusDarius: ecmoRandomNumbers: I remember in the 90s when you could just get in the car and drive to Rocky Point, or Guaymas, or San Carlos, rent a house on the beach for $300 for a three-day weekend, and just have a drunken wonderful time. That's all shot to shiat now. I don't like going south of Tucson now.

I live in Hermosillo, btw. It's not Michoacan.

Not a total shiat sandwich then.

Don't worry Fakers, Most of Mexico is still a paradise.  Just do your research and enjoy!


Eh, I'd recommend to not go to Mexico, but for other reasons: I just don't want the people working with the politicians to get any more money from tourism.
 
2014-02-16 02:51:22 PM
Not that I have anything against a person just because they live on the other side of an arbitrary border, but in reality Mexicans should be doing a whole lot more than throwing rocks at the people who have consistently used their country as a garbage dump, brothel and source of slave labor.

Not to mention that whole stole California just before we "discovered" that it was full of gold thing.

Exploitation has a habit of back-firing when the exploited ones get pissed enough.
 
2014-02-16 02:56:26 PM
CygnusDarius:

Eh, I'd recommend to not go to Mexico, but for other reasons: I just don't want the people working with the politicians to get any more money from tourism.

How about if we just agree to prohibit Germans from visiting Mexico?  WIN FOR ALL!
 
2014-02-16 03:04:00 PM
I blame  Fast and Furious. Thanks, Eric Holder!

/Seriously, enough of this hecho in Mexico crap. Time to landmine that border and protect our citizens from the brown cartels.
 
2014-02-16 03:08:18 PM

Turbo Cojones: Not that I have anything against a person just because they live on the other side of an arbitrary border, but in reality Mexicans should be doing a whole lot more than throwing rocks at the people who have consistently used their country as a garbage dump, brothel and source of slave labor.

Not to mention that whole stole California just before we "discovered" that it was full of gold thing.

Exploitation has a habit of back-firing when the exploited ones get pissed enough.


I agree with you... Sort of. Mostly because I think that the only way to solve problems in Mexico is not really caring on what the US does on its own soil.

The reasons behind a lot of problems in our country lies in our country, and our system. Yes, the American government has played us fools a lot of times, but I think it's time to rise up, not just say 'pinches gringos'.
 
2014-02-16 03:09:01 PM

Turbo Cojones: CygnusDarius:

Eh, I'd recommend to not go to Mexico, but for other reasons: I just don't want the people working with the politicians to get any more money from tourism.

How about if we just agree to prohibit Germans from visiting Mexico?  WIN FOR ALL!


Why the Germans? I've seen lots of French and Spaniards, though, but very little Germans.
 
2014-02-16 03:14:01 PM
I'd say give all the border jumpers a free one-way trip to Washington, DC.

That should solve it.
 
2014-02-16 03:24:43 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I remember in the 90s when you could just get in the car and drive to Rocky Point, or Guaymas, or San Carlos, rent a house on the beach for $300 for a three-day weekend, and just have a drunken wonderful time. That's all shot to shiat now. I don't like going south of Tucson now.


Yes it's a shame. Have you been to Nogales in the past three years? Are there any businesses left for touristas? I have relatives that want to go but I haven't been there in ten years.
 
2014-02-16 04:12:20 PM
So they hurl potentially deadly rocks at border patrol agents and the agents fire back...pepper? Really? Thanks...um...Obama? Bush? I dunno. M4s will ensure that the same person never throws a rock again.
 
2014-02-16 04:14:46 PM

Steep Spiral: ecmoRandomNumbers: I remember in the 90s when you could just get in the car and drive to Rocky Point, or Guaymas, or San Carlos, rent a house on the beach for $300 for a three-day weekend, and just have a drunken wonderful time. That's all shot to shiat now. I don't like going south of Tucson now.

Yes it's a shame. Have you been to Nogales in the past three years? Are there any businesses left for touristas? I have relatives that want to go but I haven't been there in ten years.


I haven't been since Homeland Security started requiring passports. Screw it. After 9/11 they started treating everybody like criminals, anyway. Some friends and I went across the border to have lunch and do some shopping and they practically treated us like drug mules when we came back. It's just not worth going anymore for any reason.
 
2014-02-16 04:23:34 PM

TerminalEchoes: So they hurl potentially deadly rocks at border patrol agents and the agents fire back...pepper? Really? Thanks...um...Obama? Bush? I dunno. M4s will ensure that the same person never throws a rock again.


Thanks Obama!.
 
2014-02-16 04:49:08 PM
Vector R:
Seriously, why do we tolerate this?

Why wouldn't we? Those people, chiefly their cheap labor, are a true boon to the rich and their never-ending quest to expand the wealth gap.
 
2014-02-16 05:24:19 PM
HEY ARIZONA FARKERS!!!!

We visited Nogales about 15 years ago and had fun crossing the border & buying some stuff in Mexico.  My wife is currently convinced it's a drug trade free-for-all-maelstrom-of-death everywhere south of Tucson.

What's the real deal?

Is it more dangerous than years past, or is right-wing media exaggerating normal crime?

IF YOU'RE NOT AZ DON"T ADVISE.
 
2014-02-16 05:49:10 PM

fickenchucker: HEY ARIZONA FARKERS!!!!

We visited Nogales about 15 years ago and had fun crossing the border & buying some stuff in Mexico.  My wife is currently convinced it's a drug trade free-for-all-maelstrom-of-death everywhere south of Tucson.

What's the real deal?

Is it more dangerous than years past, or is right-wing media exaggerating normal crime?

IF YOU'RE NOT AZ DON"T ADVISE.


All the cool kids are hangin' in Bisbee.
 
2014-02-16 10:36:01 PM

fickenchucker: HEY ARIZONA FARKERS!!!!

We visited Nogales about 15 years ago and had fun crossing the border & buying some stuff in Mexico.  My wife is currently convinced it's a drug trade free-for-all-maelstrom-of-death everywhere south of Tucson.

What's the real deal?

Is it more dangerous than years past, or is right-wing media exaggerating normal crime?

IF YOU'RE NOT AZ DON"T ADVISE.


It's fine all the way to the border, the Border Patrol is the only annoyance, with their checkpoints. Nogales isn't like the Nogales you knew 15 years ago though. The last time I went down was for duty-free cigarettes, it seemed to take forever to get back across because the near constant sound of automatic rifle fire a couple blocks away was a little unnerving.
 
2014-02-16 11:10:22 PM
If the kid can hit 100 on a radar gun then sign him, otherwise shoot the fark.
 
2014-02-17 02:21:03 AM
ecmoRandomNumbers

I remember in the 90s when you could just get in the car and drive to Rocky Point, or Guaymas, or San Carlos, rent a house on the beach for $300 for a three-day weekend, and just have a drunken wonderful time. That's all shot to shiat now. I don't like going south of Tucson now.

Nothing as cool as 1980's-era Rocky Point can ever last, and it didn't.
 
2014-02-17 01:22:49 PM

fickenchucker: HEY ARIZONA FARKERS!!!!

We visited Nogales about 15 years ago and had fun crossing the border & buying some stuff in Mexico.  My wife is currently convinced it's a drug trade free-for-all-maelstrom-of-death everywhere south of Tucson.

What's the real deal?

Is it more dangerous than years past, or is right-wing media exaggerating normal crime?

IF YOU'RE NOT AZ DON"T ADVISE.


As per the prior couple AZ Farkers... It's generally fine up to the border.  There's checkpoints all over the highways and many backroads, especially on the weekends.  Going through those is typically stop, roll down the window, display my IT worker pallor, and exchanging "Have a good one."  My dark haired and tan sister hates me for that, as she has to show ID almost every time despite being a corrections officer.

The guys you see lobbing marijuana over the fence are just as much distractions as the rock throwers.  Mostly disaffected youth looking for an outlet or small timers.  The real traffickers use planes, gillie suits,and convoy trucks.  There's a lot of military training and mentality... the times I've come across those guys have been unsettling.  Yet, oddly, they have a very military professionalism.  If you're a obviously local/civvie, they ignore you as long as you ignore them and move along.  This side of the fence they seem to carry only small arms that can be quickly ditched; it's a quick trip home if here illegally but a different matter if armed.  The other side of the fence... it's much the same unless there's a turf war.  It seems much the same as I remember from 20 years ago.

Most of the day to day problems seem to come from the human traffickers.  There's pretty steady foot traffic, especially in the Chiricahuas, Organ Cactus, and the Santa Rita's.  Most are decent people and just want to work or go home.  But there's some groups that will walk onto your property, check all the doors, and walk away with anything not locked up or nailed down.  The mentality seems to be "I'm already breaking laws to be here, so who cares about a few more?  It's just a bunch of rich gringos and they can afford it."  These are the groups I've noticed changing the most over the years.  The trip is harder, so I think the traffickers have become harder.

So yeah, there's a LOT of media hype.  Most people just want to get on with their daily lives.  But there's a lot more bad stuff out there too.  I don't go south of the border any more unless it is WAY south.  I miss Puerto Penasco, but it's a lot less risky to just fly to Cabo.

\Tucson Native
\\Open border supporter
\\\Had a burrito made by an "illegal" while typing this.
 
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