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2014-02-16 10:04:41 AM  
That's right.
People with homes, fighting for those without.
Good luck come election time.
 
2014-02-16 10:10:11 AM  
We need a lot more angry mobs in this country
 
2014-02-16 10:41:35 AM  
Please don't increase my taxes to fund a solution, though.
 
2014-02-16 10:46:59 AM  
Sorry, Dakota, but the nice man down at the shelter will get your room because you didn't keep it clean. No arguments. He's already paid his deposit with the empties he found in there. He's also under  bid you on your chores allowance. And don't put that li'l pony in your mouth. you don't know where it's been.
 
2014-02-16 10:48:16 AM  
Oh, and he lurves mommy's cold leftovers, too.
What a nice man.
 
2014-02-16 12:12:52 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: We need a lot more angry mobs in this country


We need more angry mobs of young people. Most angry mobs seem to be scooter filled
 
2014-02-16 12:14:01 PM  
'Ore?' Portland, Ore?

Wtf?
 
2014-02-16 12:14:34 PM  

vudukungfu: That's right.
People with homes, fighting for those without.
Good luck come election time.


With the ever-shrinking middle class, it turns out the "average" person can now relate more to the homeless than to say, their boss. And considering most people see no path to get ahead or do better (since we can't go be born to rich parents) you will probably see more of this.
 
2014-02-16 12:16:50 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: MaudlinMutantMollusk: We need a lot more angry mobs in this country

We need more angry mobs of young people. Most angry mobs seem to be scooter filled


That's kind of a media thing, really. A couple of hundred people show up to support organized labor at the state capitol? Non-story. 30 orons show up in tri-corner hats to shout 'I want my country back'? A growing groundswell of populism with wall to wall coverage for weeks.
 
2014-02-16 12:16:55 PM  

BafflerMeal: 'Ore?' Portland, Ore?

Wtf?


Maps, and such as
 
2014-02-16 12:17:58 PM  

serpent_sky: With the ever-shrinking middle class, it turns out the "average" person can now relate more to the homeless than to say, their boss. And considering most people see no path to get ahead or do better (since we can't go be born to rich parents) you will probably see more of this.


/was homeless
 
2014-02-16 12:19:25 PM  
Man I miss Portland, Boise is so tame in comparison...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/negrosli m/12509934643/sizes/o/in/photostream/
 
2014-02-16 12:20:41 PM  

vudukungfu: That's right.
People with homes, fighting for those without.
Good luck come election time.


Looks like a couple of dozen. I wonder how many actually own homes within the city. I'd count on reelection if this is the only major issue.
 
2014-02-16 12:20:47 PM  
usa.streetsblog.org

Civil disorder in Portland! Mayor flees in panic!
 
2014-02-16 12:21:08 PM  

BafflerMeal: 'Ore?' Portland, Ore?

Wtf?


I'll explain, young Padawan. Before the Postal Service began using the two-letter designations to identify states, "Ore." was the commonly used abbreviation for Oregon, both for postal use, and colloquially. Some people still use the old abbreviation.
 
2014-02-16 12:21:20 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: MaudlinMutantMollusk: We need a lot more angry mobs in this country

We need more angry mobs of young people. Most angry mobs seem to be scooter filled


What are you talking about? There's angry mobs of young people every time a new version of Halo is released.
 
2014-02-16 12:22:08 PM  
Set up some homeless shelters in their neighborhoods.
 
2014-02-16 12:23:26 PM  
So, this group of angry residents, how many homeless people did they get help to and find shelter and food for last year?
 
2014-02-16 12:24:20 PM  
"Lawlessness"

DRINK!
 
2014-02-16 12:25:51 PM  
This is good. They won't make the mayor do anything, but it's good somebody stands up for those who can't stand up for themselves.
They are better people than so many.
 
2014-02-16 12:26:14 PM  

trappedspirit: So, this group of angry residents, how many homeless people did they get help to and find shelter and food for last year?


Last time I checked, it was the government's job to tend to the general welfare of the populous, not the populous itself.

In other words, it's the government's job to do what you expect individual citizens to do.

Because, you know, those homeless folk are all American citizens, too.
 
2014-02-16 12:30:04 PM  

big pig peaches: vudukungfu: That's right.
People with homes, fighting for those without.
Good luck come election time.

Looks like a couple of dozen. I wonder how many actually own homes within the city. I'd count on reelection if this is the only major issue.


No idea how this mayor will do come election time, but if your definition of homeless is "not owning a home", you're being kind of silly.
 
2014-02-16 12:30:22 PM  
FACT: The homeless cause property values to decrease, scare away tourism, and make it cities generally unpleasant for everyone. They are freeloaders. If they refuse the MANY social services available to them and cannot function in society, then perhaps they are better off dead. I bet if you ask them, they'd agree...while spitting blood in your face.
 
2014-02-16 12:30:53 PM  
FTA : The group of about 50 protesters

Sounds like a class project.
 
2014-02-16 12:31:26 PM  

gnosis301: Please don't increase my taxes to fund a solution, though.


Yeah, I imagine that's where the movement lost some steam.
 
2014-02-16 12:32:50 PM  
Oh, great, now we're going to have to register our "assault" pitchforks.
 
2014-02-16 12:33:17 PM  

buckler: BafflerMeal: 'Ore?' Portland, Ore?

Wtf?

I'll explain, young Padawan. Before the Postal Service began using the two-letter designations to identify states, "Ore." was the commonly used abbreviation for Oregon, both for postal use, and colloquially. Some people still use the old abbreviation.


The Force is strong in you.
 
2014-02-16 12:35:23 PM  

That's 'Master Troll' to You: FACT: The homeless cause property values to decrease, scare away tourism, and make it cities generally unpleasant for everyone. They are freeloaders. If they refuse the MANY social services available to them and cannot function in society, then perhaps they are better off dead. I bet if you ask them, they'd agree...while spitting blood in your face.


Your handle is appropriate, but it does make it even more obvious.
 
2014-02-16 12:36:11 PM  

gnosis301: Please don't increase my taxes to fund a solution, though.


Why would they increase California's taxes to solve a problem in Oregon, and what do you have against problems being solved?
 
2014-02-16 12:36:19 PM  

Dafatone: big pig peaches: vudukungfu: That's right.
People with homes, fighting for those without.
Good luck come election time.

Looks like a couple of dozen. I wonder how many actually own homes within the city. I'd count on reelection if this is the only major issue.

No idea how this mayor will do come election time, but if your definition of homeless is "not owning a home", you're being kind of silly.


I meant "own" as in have an interest property values as opposed to rent, live with parents, and/or took the bus in from the the suburbs.
 
2014-02-16 12:36:43 PM  
Goddammitsomuch.

Please don't give any ideas to the SLEEPS protesters in Eugene.

Don't encourage chronic homelessness, address the needs of the temporarily homeless, and get those that are chronically homeless the help they need to stabilize their lives.

And yes, I'll pay more in taxes if they actually show good results.
 
2014-02-16 12:37:17 PM  

buckler: BafflerMeal: 'Ore?' Portland, Ore?

Wtf?

I'll explain, young Padawan. Before the Postal Service began using the two-letter designations to identify states, "Ore." was the commonly used abbreviation for Oregon, both for postal use, and colloquially. Some people still use the old abbreviation.


I still occasionally use SoDak. They never should have gotten rid of that one.
 
2014-02-16 12:37:36 PM  

buckler: BafflerMeal: 'Ore?' Portland, Ore?

Wtf?

I'll explain, young Padawan. Before the Postal Service began using the two-letter designations to identify states, "Ore." was the commonly used abbreviation for Oregon, both for postal use, and colloquially. Some people still use the old abbreviation.


Plus the three-letter abbreviations are still common in journalism.
 
2014-02-16 12:38:08 PM  

That's 'Master Troll' to You: FACT: The homeless cause property values to decrease, scare away tourism, and make it cities generally unpleasant for everyone. They are freeloaders. If they refuse the MANY social services available to them and cannot function in society, then perhaps they are better off dead. I bet if you ask them, they'd agree...while spitting blood in your face.


Why is it that the ones with the most obvious names leave the worst troll droppings in threads?

This isn't even worth a 0/10, but there you go anyway cuppycake.
 
2014-02-16 12:38:31 PM  
Infernalist: ...Because, you know, those homeless folk are all American citizens, too.

American citizens....not according to the GoP...

s27.postimg.org
 
2014-02-16 12:39:04 PM  

meat0918: Don't encourage chronic homelessness, address the needs of the temporarily homeless, and get those that are chronically homeless the help they need to stabilize their lives.


Add to that a way to identify and separate the grifters from the genuinely needy, and more people will be on board.
 
2014-02-16 12:41:43 PM  

gnosis301: Please don't increase my taxes to fund a solution, though.


No, go ahead and raise my taxes. I'm okay with that.
 
2014-02-16 12:42:31 PM  
Taking weapons to a protest? They're lucky they don't get shot.
 
2014-02-16 12:42:47 PM  
And don't feed homeless trolls, either
 
2014-02-16 12:43:43 PM  

big pig peaches: Dafatone: big pig peaches: vudukungfu: That's right.
People with homes, fighting for those without.
Good luck come election time.

Looks like a couple of dozen. I wonder how many actually own homes within the city. I'd count on reelection if this is the only major issue.

No idea how this mayor will do come election time, but if your definition of homeless is "not owning a home", you're being kind of silly.

I meant "own" as in have an interest property values as opposed to rent, live with parents, and/or took the bus in from the the suburbs.


Ah, so only homeowners give a fark about the community.

Or maybe, homeowners only care about their own property, and it's the renters, livers with parents, and/or bus takers that actually care about the community.
 
2014-02-16 12:44:05 PM  

PanicMan: gnosis301: Please don't increase my taxes to fund a solution, though.

No, go ahead and raise my taxes. I'm okay with that.


For decades, the GOP has relied up a message of 'taxes bad!' and pushing the idea that we should all be as greedy and miserly as they themselves are.

You can see it in how they attempted to enlist the elderly in their last attempt to privatize Social Security.  Their message was "Sure, Social Security will get demolished for your kids and grandkids, but your SS payments will be okay!" And then looked shocked with Grannies attempted to stab a biatch over the grandkids.

They 'need' Americans to be greedy and hateful and selfish or they have no resonating issues with Americans.
 
2014-02-16 12:44:31 PM  

GoldSpider: meat0918: Don't encourage chronic homelessness, address the needs of the temporarily homeless, and get those that are chronically homeless the help they need to stabilize their lives.

Add to that a way to identify and separate the grifters from the genuinely needy, and more people will be on board.


Ah yes, the old "Better to let 100 suffer than help 1 undeserving person."
 
2014-02-16 12:45:01 PM  

Infernalist: trappedspirit: So, this group of angry residents, how many homeless people did they get help to and find shelter and food for last year?

Last time I checked, it was the government's job to tend to the general welfare of the populous, not the populous itself.

In other words, it's the government's job to do what you expect individual citizens to do.

Because, you know, those homeless folk are all American citizens, too.


I often wonder if those like you realize how much of their belief system comes right out of the communist manifesto rather than the US founding documents. Promoting the general welfare is an over-arching concept that includes things like roads and the post office. What you espouse in no way fits the term "general".
 
2014-02-16 12:48:23 PM  

Dafatone: big pig peaches: Dafatone: big pig peaches: vudukungfu: That's right.
People with homes, fighting for those without.
Good luck come election time.

Looks like a couple of dozen. I wonder how many actually own homes within the city. I'd count on reelection if this is the only major issue.

No idea how this mayor will do come election time, but if your definition of homeless is "not owning a home", you're being kind of silly.

I meant "own" as in have an interest property values as opposed to rent, live with parents, and/or took the bus in from the the suburbs.

Ah, so only homeowners give a fark about the community.

Or maybe, homeowners only care about their own property, and it's the renters, livers with parents, and/or bus takers that actually care about the community.


Yup, it's all black and white.
 
2014-02-16 12:49:12 PM  
It's like the lost ending to "It's a Wonderful Life".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoKp0Pn-kKI
 
2014-02-16 12:49:59 PM  

buckler: BafflerMeal: 'Ore?' Portland, Ore?

Wtf?

I'll explain, young Padawan. Before the Postal Service began using the two-letter designations to identify states, "Ore." was the commonly used abbreviation for Oregon, both for postal use, and colloquially. Some people still use the old abbreviation.


I prefer "Oreg."
And while you're at it, Jet-Setters, enough with the "PDX", unless you're talking about the airport.  And seeing as how there's only one, you can go ahead and call it "the airport".
 
2014-02-16 12:52:12 PM  

GoldSpider: meat0918: Don't encourage chronic homelessness, address the needs of the temporarily homeless, and get those that are chronically homeless the help they need to stabilize their lives.

Add to that a way to identify and separate the grifters from the genuinely needy, and more people will be on board.


Don't really care about the grifters.  I'd rather have people not sleeping in the streets, and would be willing to try what Utah does and just gave them homes and a social worker.  It'd probably be cheaper than cleaning up campsites, having the police respond to illegal camping or disturbances, and with that minor increase in stability, probably decrease crime too,
 
2014-02-16 12:53:45 PM  
MarkEC: I often wonder if those like you realize how much of their belief system comes right out of the communist manifesto rather than the US founding documents....


s28.postimg.org
 
2014-02-16 12:54:15 PM  

MarkEC: Infernalist: trappedspirit: So, this group of angry residents, how many homeless people did they get help to and find shelter and food for last year?

Last time I checked, it was the government's job to tend to the general welfare of the populous, not the populous itself.

In other words, it's the government's job to do what you expect individual citizens to do.

Because, you know, those homeless folk are all American citizens, too.

I often wonder if those like you realize how much of their belief system comes right out of the communist manifesto rather than the US founding documents. Promoting the general welfare is an over-arching concept that includes things like roads and the post office. What you espouse in no way fits the term "general".


Yeah, and once upon a time, it was okay to own people and women couldn't vote.

Things change.  Definitions of things change.  Our idea of what the 'general welfare' is has changed to encompass new aspects.
 
2014-02-16 12:54:33 PM  

grumpfuff: Ah yes, the old "Better to let 100 suffer than help 1 undeserving person."


There is a difference between wanting to fix a problem, and wanting people to think you want to fix a problem.  One requires an understanding of the scope of the problem, as well as the funding limitations, and the other sounds more like your sentiment.
 
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