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(Time)   The long winter can be blamed on one thing: a changing jet stream   (nation.time.com) divider line 166
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2014-02-16 12:06:29 PM  
CONTRAILS!
/Adjusts tinfoil hat
 
2014-02-16 12:16:46 PM  
Well, as a positive benefit on climate change, this winter has been absolutely beautiful in FL this year.  We've had a few nice chilly days to remind us that different seasons exist, but it hasn't dipped below freezing (well, at least here) to endanger any of the landscaping or crops.

Plus, my AC has had to run a lot less.  My electric bill was only $45 last month, that's a little more than half of the normal winter level and a fifth of the normal summer level.

Of course, the downside is if this shiat keeps up eventually the ice caps are going to melt and my house is going to be under water, so hopefully the storms up north keep driving folks south so I can sell it for a nice profit and move to a higher elevation before that happens.
 
2014-02-16 01:09:22 PM  
Oh, now you're going to tell me that the jet stream is related to climate?  Nice try libs.
 
2014-02-16 01:10:32 PM  

vudukungfu: CONTRAILS!
/Adjusts tinfoil hat


you mean chemtrails

/FALSE FLAG! FALSE FLAG!!
//puts back on dropped tin foil hat
 
2014-02-16 01:10:46 PM  
Iblame(shakes magic 8 ball) El Niño
 
2014-02-16 01:12:06 PM  
But, but, I heard from people who hate Al Gore as the inventor of climate that the ever-changing climate can't change now!
 
2014-02-16 01:13:36 PM  
Change.
Things change.
Like climate and weather.
 
2014-02-16 01:14:28 PM  
The Winter is the same duration every year.
 
2014-02-16 01:14:53 PM  
img.fark.net tag on holday, subby?  Like somewhere warm, maybe?
 
2014-02-16 01:14:53 PM  
Change?! Unpossible!
 
2014-02-16 01:14:53 PM  
Today, in my part of the world, it was farking spring. Clear skies, warm breeze - we went to the park all day. Of course, last year around this time, we had thirty centimeters of snow.
 
2014-02-16 01:17:27 PM  
It rained here last night, so the California drought is over now

/that's a relief
 
2014-02-16 01:20:42 PM  
It's been great for Colorado. Spectacular snow year.
 
2014-02-16 01:22:28 PM  
Bring on "Climate Change"...  cold snowy winters can only get better...

"Climate Change" isn't necessarily a bad thing... it is bad for some beach front property... and good for northern farming which now has a longer growing season
 
2014-02-16 01:22:49 PM  

HighZoolander: But, but, I heard from people who hate Al Gore as the inventor of climate that the ever-changing climate can't change now!


I blame Al Gore. If he'd won the vote, we'd be doing something about this.
 
2014-02-16 01:23:19 PM  

vudukungfu: CONTRAILS!
/Adjusts tinfoil hat


Hand in you tinfoil, Son, and let me show you how it's done.


The Obama Administration wants us more reliant on government bailouts, so they have fired up the HAARP!  It only gets worse from here, but DON'T FALL FOR IT!
 
2014-02-16 01:23:32 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
I thought that the long winter follows the long summer.
 
2014-02-16 01:23:37 PM  

RoyHobbs22: The Winter is the same duration every year.


Not in leap years.

/your mind = blown!
 
2014-02-16 01:24:40 PM  
Looking forward to a debate on Meet the Press over whether or not there is a Jet Stream.
 
2014-02-16 01:25:28 PM  
Thanks Obama!
 
2014-02-16 01:25:40 PM  

Type random string here: [img.fark.net image 128x26] tag on holday, subby?  Like somewhere warm, maybe?


THIS. Get a brian, dumbmitter.
 
2014-02-16 01:26:21 PM  
so if anything happens, you can blubber about global warming  climate change  climate instability

/ climate instability
// that's the ticket
 
2014-02-16 01:26:33 PM  
Right around 80 all week. Couple cold spells, but overall pretty tame, though it looks like the last cold snap may have killed my lime tree, Boo.
 
2014-02-16 01:27:47 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Well, as a positive benefit on climate change, this winter has been absolutely beautiful in FL this year.  We've had a few nice chilly days to remind us that different seasons exist, but it hasn't dipped below freezing (well, at least here) to endanger any of the landscaping or crops.

Plus, my AC has had to run a lot less.  My electric bill was only $45 last month, that's a little more than half of the normal winter level and a fifth of the normal summer level.

Of course, the downside is if this shiat keeps up eventually the ice caps are going to melt and my house is going to be under water, so hopefully the storms up north keep driving folks south so I can sell it for a nice profit and move to a higher elevation before that happens.


I'm a "northerner" who just moved to Florida, and am looking to make friends. You near the Tampa area?
 
2014-02-16 01:29:14 PM  
I sure hope it keeps changing, California will have to look more like Arizona if we keep getting this little rain.
 
2014-02-16 01:30:00 PM  
When are climatologists going to throw up their arms and just say "We don't know what the fark is going on"?
 
2014-02-16 01:30:06 PM  
The only thing that can save us is if Al Gore gets a much bigger house.
 
2014-02-16 01:30:29 PM  
You know what else the "long" winter can be blamed on?  It's farking February.
 
2014-02-16 01:33:58 PM  
How England got California's rain remains a mystery.

/is not actually a mystery.
 
2014-02-16 01:34:34 PM  

Coming on a Bicycle: Today, in my part of the world, it was farking spring. Clear skies, warm breeze - we went to the park all day. Of course, last year around this time, we had thirty centimeters of snow.


Centimeters?? Go back to Celisusvania comrade!!
 
2014-02-16 01:35:54 PM  

Type random string here: tag on holday, subby?  Like somewhere warm, maybe?


Holday Holday Holday Holday Holday
 
2014-02-16 01:37:42 PM  
I thought it was God, punishing us for twerking
 
2014-02-16 01:38:17 PM  
Long winter? We had a month of fall and then skipped directly to late spring.

/Californian
 
2014-02-16 01:38:31 PM  
No no no. The recent weather is part of a plot by the CIA to stop my hordes of followers from rising up and installing me as Inconceivable Potentate. Please make a note of it.
 
2014-02-16 01:41:43 PM  

listernine: Type random string here: tag on holday, subby?  Like somewhere warm, maybe?

Holday Holday Holday Holday Holday


Leave him alone, he's probably German.
i1.ytimg.com

"Let me take you far away, you'd like a hol-day..."
 
2014-02-16 01:41:48 PM  
thisishistorictimes.com
 
2014-02-16 01:42:31 PM  
Naesen:

I'm a "northerner" who just moved to Florida, and am looking to make friends. You near the Tampa area?

I'm a couple hours south of you.
 
2014-02-16 01:44:36 PM  
If current weather patterns are really part of a long-term shift then this will have horrific ramifications on America's food supply, as the current weather pattern is drought in the San Joaquin Valley.
 
2014-02-16 01:49:27 PM  
Look, I'm as much of a believer of science and evidence as anyone. So, let's see some. What the hell evidence is there that this is a "changing pattern" as opposed to an anomaly this year? One data point doesn't make a pattern.
 
2014-02-16 01:51:26 PM  
This is news? The jet stream has been shifting to these long-period longitudinal orientations for a few years now. Get stuck on one side and you're hot and dry, the other cold and wet. We used to call these cold and warm fronts and they'd sweep across the country, spreading the weather out. But lately, they look more like a goddamn standing wave and some place is getting repeatedly hammered, while some place else is bone dry.
 
2014-02-16 01:51:27 PM  

CruJones: Right around 80 all week. Couple cold spells, but overall pretty tame, though it looks like the last cold snap may have killed my lime tree, Boo.


I'm not your Boo, Sweetie.
 
2014-02-16 01:53:22 PM  
The winter isn't long, the winter is winter.   It's winter until March 21 or so.   Snow falls in winter.   Is our cultural memory so short that we don't remember previous epic winters?
 
2014-02-16 01:56:08 PM  

ZoSo_the_Crowe: If current weather patterns are really part of a long-term shift then this will have horrific ramifications on America's food supply, as the current weather pattern is drought in the San Joaquin Valley.


This pattern also results in a "Pineapple Express" stream of moisture from around Hawaii which has in the past been known to cause flooding, rather than drought. In 1850 one of these things destroyed a quarter of the taxable property, and after drowning 200,000 cattle the state switched over permanently from ranching to farming.

I wouldn't be surprised if a couple decades from now the climate will simply have shifted to one where California is dependent on the summer monsoons to water a real pineapple crop.
 
2014-02-16 01:56:22 PM  

MemeSlave: The winter isn't long, the winter is winter.   It's winter until March 21 or so.   Snow falls in winter.   Is our cultural memory so short that we don't remember previous epic winters?


Last year, especially late winter, sucked too. Same pattern. I went back and did some rough (anecdotal, really) analysis using weather station plots from the last thirty years or so of winters and I could not find a prolonged, stationary setup like this. And certainly not twice within 12 months.
 
2014-02-16 01:56:58 PM  

MemeSlave: The winter isn't long, the winter is winter.   It's winter until March 21 or so.   Snow falls in winter.   Is our cultural memory so short that we don't remember previous epic winters?


Yes
 
2014-02-16 01:58:50 PM  

Jarhead_h: You know what else the "long" winter can be blamed on?  It's farking February.


And the groundhogs.
 
2014-02-16 02:00:19 PM  
Any cave in Virginia is going to be about 55 degrees and dark all year long.
 
2014-02-16 02:04:12 PM  
Ravage:Try connecting to your home computer via FTP from some remote location after having set it all up on your end. Most ISPs will block (filter out) that protocol.
rpm: FTP isn't NAT friendly. It could be just as much a side effect of network topology as anything else.
/you should be using scp, not ftp

letrole: nat friendly? say what? side effect of network topology? say what?
rpm:  Way to sidestep the issue, but I'll bite.
I made the assumption that the person setting up the FTP server and firewall wasn't a complete idiot. I dont know that you are trying to say by "NAT friendly" but as long as either you configure your port forward in your firewall retains the source IP of the incoming dst 21/TCP connection so your server can open a new outbound data connection to that IP on src 20/TCP *or* your firewall is halfway decent and can statefully associate the two ports used by FTP into a single communication your FTP server will work fine.
That said, it is common practice for private companies to disallow various types of internet communications based on their needs and wants.



So you're suggesting somebody too dumb to choose passive FTP from the client settings should setup and run something esoteric like SCP. It's a shame you wasted all that technocrocity to make such a useless point.
 
2014-02-16 02:09:01 PM  

letrole: Ravage:Try connecting to your home computer via FTP from some remote location after having set it all up on your end. Most ISPs will block (filter out) that protocol.
rpm: FTP isn't NAT friendly. It could be just as much a side effect of network topology as anything else.
/you should be using scp, not ftp
letrole: nat friendly? say what? side effect of network topology? say what?
rpm:  Way to sidestep the issue, but I'll bite.
I made the assumption that the person setting up the FTP server and firewall wasn't a complete idiot. I dont know that you are trying to say by "NAT friendly" but as long as either you configure your port forward in your firewall retains the source IP of the incoming dst 21/TCP connection so your server can open a new outbound data connection to that IP on src 20/TCP *or* your firewall is halfway decent and can statefully associate the two ports used by FTP into a single communication your FTP server will work fine.
That said, it is common practice for private companies to disallow various types of internet communications based on their needs and wants.


So you're suggesting somebody too dumb to choose passive FTP from the client settings should setup and run something esoteric like SCP. It's a shame you wasted all that technocrocity to make such a useless point.


Wow. That was even less relevant than usual.
 
2014-02-16 02:21:36 PM  
It's the Government Farking with the weather. (see HAARP)
 
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