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(Fansided)   Jets kicker Nick Folk: "Let's make the game more exciting. Field goals can be worth 3, 4 or 5 points"   ( fansided.com) divider line
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2014-02-16 08:32:07 AM  
Actually that's a pretty good idea. My only question is how it's scored if the ball doinks off the inner poles on a field goal attempt. Still 3 points even though the ball never goes through the uprights?
 
2014-02-16 09:02:54 AM  
What is it with football that they feel the need to make major changes to it on a regular basis? No one knows what pass interference is from year to year. The rules on what is or isn't a catch is pants on head retarded since there's more than one
 
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2014-02-16 09:14:03 AM  
When Brady gets sacked on 3rd down they will call Belichick a genius. The 50 yard field goal will score more points than a 40 yard field goal while taking less time than a touchdown.
 
2014-02-16 09:24:22 AM  
they should change it so if you make it in the inside from 50 yards its still 3 points but you get the ball back. you'd see some wild 4th quarters.
 
2014-02-16 09:46:11 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: What is it with football that they feel the need to make major changes to it on a regular basis? No one knows what pass interference is from year to year. The rules on what is or isn't a catch is pants on head retarded since there's more than one


I think the NFL believes controversies like this boost ratings and profit, gives them a chance to run another commercial while the refs watch the replay. It's losing its appeal for me
 
2014-02-16 09:53:52 AM  
Field Goals are worth 10 if the kicker holds an angry puma during the attempt.
15 if he wears a diver's helmet full of raging hornets.
 
2014-02-16 10:04:18 AM  
Make a kicker more important?  It'll never happen.

/farking kickers
 
2014-02-16 10:18:45 AM  
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Four uprights, you say?
 
2014-02-16 10:49:55 AM  
This message brought to you by the Professional Kickers Full Employment Association, kicking touchdowns since 1883 (back when a field goal counted more than a touchdown).

Note to Nicky, I have a few friends who belong to that damned species known as "Jet fans."  Results of an informal poll are just in and, if you want to make football more interesting for your fan base you and your fellows should play better and be competitive.
 
2014-02-16 11:15:17 AM  
I like that idea.
 
2014-02-16 11:23:30 AM  

dugitman: Actually that's a pretty good idea. My only question is how it's scored if the ball doinks off the inner poles on a field goal attempt. Still 3 points even though the ball never goes through the uprights?


Put the inner posts a foot behind the outer posts.  That way it would still go through the outer posts.
 
2014-02-16 11:24:30 AM  
I wonder how the Las Vegas bookies would feel about that idea.
 
2014-02-16 11:25:52 AM  
I don't know a good fantasy that doesn't use augmented kicking scoring
 
2014-02-16 11:28:20 AM  
If they don't like the extra point being so easy, why not just make it a 40 or 45 yard kick and if going for 2, keep it at the same place?  Sure, they can't do a fake, but I don't recall ever seeing a team fake an extra point and then try to go in for 2.
 
2014-02-16 11:33:17 AM  
This makes about as much sense as awarding 8 points for a TD of more than 50 yards. What's next, we award 6 points for a failed FG attempt?

Getting more points for a longer FG makes sense until you realize that a longer FG means your offense did worse.

This could lead to teams fielding a great kicker and punt/kick returner and winning games. Sounds like shiatty football to me.
 
2014-02-16 11:38:47 AM  
lol someone called Nick Folk a kicker
 
2014-02-16 11:55:37 AM  
Make them kick the extra point in line with where it was scored, like rugby.
 
2014-02-16 11:59:52 AM  
Well, as long as they don't get rid of the most exciting play in football: The fair catch.
 
2014-02-16 12:02:17 PM  
Didn't MTV have a celebrity basketball game like 20 years ago where there was a hoop 50 feet up, and if you hit that shot you got 100 points or something?
 
2014-02-16 12:03:51 PM  

ciderczar: Make them kick the extra point in line with where it was scored, like rugby.


This. You score on the sideline you're gonna have to go for 2.
 
2014-02-16 12:08:04 PM  

dugitman: Actually that's a pretty good idea. My only question is how it's scored if the ball doinks off the inner poles on a field goal attempt. Still 3 points even though the ball never goes through the uprights?


I would think it would still count, since it would have gone through the regular uprights... however, the middle set of uprights could also be mounted back a yard or two, just to make it unambiguous.
 
2014-02-16 12:12:35 PM  
Put a top bar on the uprights. If you go over the top bar, you get nothing. The Arena Football variation could be that the bar creeps down through out each half, making the last second field goal attempt that much more exciting.
 
2014-02-16 12:17:28 PM  
How about 1 point for the kicking team if the kickoff goes through the uprights for a touchback? Receiving team gets the ball at the 20 like normal.
 
2014-02-16 12:20:07 PM  
What if the ball was actually a midget they greased uo and he could escape and run around?
 
2014-02-16 12:25:24 PM  

ZAZ: When Brady gets sacked on 3rd down they will call Belichick a genius. The 50 yard field goal will score more points than a 40 yard field goal while taking less time than a touchdown.


What I would do is make the spot of the kick elective: you can kick from where the ball is currently spotted or any point behind that. So if you're at the 1 and want to move it back to the 33 to attempt the 50-yarder, that's your choice. I think that would eliminate any perverse incentives and make it always in the offense's best interest to try to move the ball forward.

That is, of course, if they were to adopt this rule, which they won't. I tend to agree with Peter von Nostrand above that football should stop farking around with its rules.
 
2014-02-16 12:25:36 PM  
I was kidding about adding a top bar to the uprights but now that I thought about it some more, it would make the game more exciting. The blocked kick has become a rather rare event because of the need to protect the kicker. A bar at the top of the upright would force the kicker to kick at a lower angle. This would give the defense a better shot at blocking the kick without adding any danger to the kicker.
 
2014-02-16 12:33:20 PM  
Well, they could get rid of the uprights altogether and put MLB Umpires in the stands to call whether or not the football was a "strike"

I'm sure there are some umpires that could be sent over on loan.
 
2014-02-16 12:34:38 PM  
Multi ball.That is all.
 
2014-02-16 12:44:00 PM  
exploit scenario
3rd and 25 from the 30 yard line so you don't attempt the first down
lets say a field goal attempt from the 31 is worth 4 points instead of 3.
you lose 1 yard on 3rd down on purpose and go for the field goal
all kinds of imaginary situations very late in the game you would move the ball backwards on purpose to the exact line to kick a 5 or 4 point instead of a 3.
 
2014-02-16 12:45:48 PM  
What if, on a successful PAT, the kicking team then gets to attempt two free-throws while whoever scored the TD is judged on dancing ability?
 
2014-02-16 12:45:49 PM  
Your team can have one combo kicker/punter active for the game.  He gets injured - no kicks or punts for you.  Go for it, pussies.

No kicked XP.  Go for it, pussies.

No FG kicking if the ball has crossed your opponents 35 yd line during this possession. Go for it, pussies.

No punting if the ball has crossed the 50 yd line during this possession. GFIP.

No overtime.  If a game ends in a tie, your kicker and their kicker: Thunderdome with Bowie knives. GFIP!
 
2014-02-16 12:56:09 PM  
move the uprights closer together, kick through that Jetsboy
 
2014-02-16 12:56:43 PM  

starlost: exploit scenario
3rd and 25 from the 30 yard line so you don't attempt the first down
lets say a field goal attempt from the 31 is worth 4 points instead of 3.
you lose 1 yard on 3rd down on purpose and go for the field goal
all kinds of imaginary situations very late in the game you would move the ball backwards on purpose to the exact line to kick a 5 or 4 point instead of a 3.


Simple solution: the points are based on forward progress in the drive. No extra point if you took a penalty or lost yardage after advancing the ball past a particular threshold.
 
2014-02-16 01:00:57 PM  
Only if the kicker must also play offense or defense. No more specialized kickers.
 
2014-02-16 01:01:52 PM  

mainstreet62: Didn't MTV have a celebrity basketball game like 20 years ago where there was a hoop 50 feet up, and if you hit that shot you got 100 points or something?


I don't remember that, but I'm guessing Bill Bellamy was playing.
 
2014-02-16 01:03:49 PM  
The only change regarding field goals that I'd like to see is to ban them inside the red zone. Can't score a TD inside the 20? No points for you.

Otherwise, GTFO.
 
2014-02-16 01:05:57 PM  

Rann Xerox: I wonder how the Las Vegas bookies would feel about that idea.


They'd continue to release a test line to early betters and adjust it to get close to equal money on both sides. I'd guess.
 
2014-02-16 01:06:24 PM  

JudgeSmails: move the uprights closer together, kick through that Jetsboy


That, and moving the hash marks, are the only proposals that make any sense.
 
2014-02-16 01:18:18 PM  
I wouldn't really mind that but it ain't happening. The way the NFL is headed you won't need a FG kicker at all because you'll be expected to score TDs every possession because the offenses will be virtually unstoppable.

Arena football on a longer field...at least for now.
 
2014-02-16 01:26:46 PM  

mephisto6: Rann Xerox: I wonder how the Las Vegas bookies would feel about that idea.

They'd continue to release a test line to early betters and adjust it to get close to equal money on both sides. I'd guess.


and profit.  it's not like they give a flying fark about what the game is.  just bet on it and they'll take their vig.

/i hate when folks act like vegas is predicting the outcome with a line.
//they don't care.  they just want money on both sides...
 
2014-02-16 01:26:50 PM  

oukewldave: If they don't like the extra point being so easy, why not just make it a 40 or 45 yard kick and if going for 2, keep it at the same place?  Sure, they can't do a fake, but I don't recall ever seeing a team fake an extra point and then try to go in for 2.


The issue is that players keep getting injured on PATs. Since they are so easy, they are making player safety important.

If they want to change it, let teams get a free 1 point PAT if they want it. Or, let them try for 2 from the two yard line (no kicks count) or kick from the 40 yard line (50 yard field goal, no returns by defense) for 2 points.

/Do you trust your kicker?
 
2014-02-16 01:32:15 PM  
So, let me see if I understand this 'logic'. Your offense is so bad it can't get inside your opponents 30 and you should be rewarded for that by getting more points for a field goal? Thereby devaluing a touchdown?
How about no?
 
2014-02-16 01:33:17 PM  

ZAZ: When Brady gets sacked on 3rd down they will call Belichick a genius. The 50 yard field goal will score more points than a 40 yard field goal while taking less time than a touchdown.


That's why any sort of rule like this for me would be based upon the line to gain rather than the current position on the field. For 5 point FGs, the line to gain would be no closer than the 35 yard line (52 yard field goal at the closest). For 4 pt. FGs, the line to gain would be no closer than the 25 yard line (42 yd. FG at closest). And I'd reduce any FG with goal to go to 2 points, to encourage going for a TD on 4th down if you're goal to go.
 
2014-02-16 01:36:10 PM  
I'm a bit saddened that so many people want to take the "foot" out of football.

Seriously... I think it might be wild to bring it back, like the old days when they used to do things like drop kicks and other crazy kick plays that have become extinct.
 
2014-02-16 01:40:28 PM  

Kuta: The issue is that players keep getting injured on PATs.


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2014-02-16 01:46:20 PM  
No. Just...no.

Every team that has a struggling offense will just go out and get some kicker that can boot it from 60 with relatively little problem, then, all the offense has to do is get near the 40 and say "fark it, we'll go ahead and take our 5 points."  I mean why not? It'll be only 2 less points than a TD, less risk involved in turnovers, more points than if you get close but can't punch it in.

The game will become a giant, boring, kick-fest with more defense.

Stupidest farking idea, ever.
 
2014-02-16 01:48:53 PM  
I still vote we eliminate kickers and punters completely.
 
2014-02-16 01:51:32 PM  
Better idea:

Instead of standard goal posts, put up something that looks like a skee-ball machine.
 
2014-02-16 01:54:34 PM  
If you were, for instance, trapped on a dessert island for five years without any contact with the outside world, when you got back to civilization you would have a very hard time telling what was going on when you watched a football game. It would look familiar.
 
2014-02-16 01:58:01 PM  
How about we just get rid of kicking all together. You have to go for it on fourth down and you have to go for two point conversions.

Gives coaches an extra three roster spots to play with. No snapper, punter or kicker needed. And if your team has a return specialist then he is gone too. No more dangerous returns and no more kickers. We all win.
 
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