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2014-02-16 01:44:02 PM
AHHHHH, Starfleet is being invaded!

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2014-02-16 01:45:52 PM
No.

How about no.

I think I'll have some Enviropig pork chops before eating bugs as a protein replacement.
 
2014-02-16 01:48:17 PM
And the gap between "Off the Grid" and "Out of Your Mind" continues to shrink.
 
2014-02-16 01:49:54 PM
bug trifecta in play?
 
2014-02-16 01:52:15 PM
Like them or hate them. Face it. Bugs will be in western culinary future. Cows are too damn expensive.
 
2014-02-16 01:52:18 PM
Fried and ground into meal, added to a vegetable recipe - you probably wouldn't know they were there, but you'd be getting adequate nutrition.
 
2014-02-16 01:54:10 PM
I'd rather switch to all beans for my protein needs. Do Not Want.
 
2014-02-16 01:55:09 PM
I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.
 
2014-02-16 01:57:02 PM
Lentils FTW
 
2014-02-16 01:58:20 PM
The least popular item on the menu.
 
2014-02-16 01:58:56 PM
I'll pass
 
2014-02-16 01:59:32 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.


So the cultures that regularly eat bugs (which, I dare say, probably outnumber those that don't) are 'nutbars'?
 
2014-02-16 02:02:44 PM
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LordJiro: So the cultures that regularly eat bugs (which, I dare say, probably outnumber those that don't) are 'nutbars'?


If it's all the same to you, I'll have a nutbar.
 
2014-02-16 02:03:58 PM
I can't help but wonder if all the "we're gonna have to eat bugs!" publicity is really being introduced as an incentive to develop better livestock practices. I know if I was an animal science major (nearly went that route) that would be all the spur I needed to bust my ass to save our steak-less future from it's wriggling doom.
 
2014-02-16 02:05:14 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.


I don't get why it's delusional. There's nothing wrong with eating bugs. Other than the "ewww" factor that most people get over in childhood.

It's cheaper than any other source of protein (at least animal protein). They don't taste weird (at least the ones I've had). And even the ick factor isn't an issue when you grind them up and put it in something else. So what's delusional about wanting spoiled Western civilizations (because that's really the only place it's an issue since most of the rest of the world supplements their diets with insects, only us fat spoiled Americans and some Europeans demand 40 oz of animal protein at every meal) to at least start working some cheap sustainable food into their diets?

/a steak is always going to be great, but eventually we're going to realize it isn't sustainable or healthy to keep mass producing beef, pork, or chicken
 
2014-02-16 02:07:15 PM

LordJiro: Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.

So the cultures that regularly eat bugs (which, I dare say, probably outnumber those that don't) are 'nutbars'?


No, I'm saying they don't eat them by choice. It's delusional to think Americans are going to switch to bugs, "because environment!!!!!" And when beef gets too expensive, deer and feral hogs will become much more popular.
 
2014-02-16 02:12:05 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: LordJiro: Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.

So the cultures that regularly eat bugs (which, I dare say, probably outnumber those that don't) are 'nutbars'?

No, I'm saying they don't eat them by choice. It's delusional to think Americans are going to switch to bugs, "because environment!!!!!" And when beef gets too expensive, deer and feral hogs will become much more popular.


And when wild deer or feral hog populations can't meet the needs for hundreds of millions of Americans?
 
2014-02-16 02:12:20 PM

Semper IvXx: Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.

I don't get why it's delusional. There's nothing wrong with eating bugs. Other than the "ewww" factor that most people get over in childhood.

It's cheaper than any other source of protein (at least animal protein). They don't taste weird (at least the ones I've had). And even the ick factor isn't an issue when you grind them up and put it in something else. So what's delusional about wanting spoiled Western civilizations (because that's really the only place it's an issue since most of the rest of the world supplements their diets with insects, only us fat spoiled Americans and some Europeans demand 40 oz of animal protein at every meal) to at least start working some cheap sustainable food into their diets?

/a steak is always going to be great, but eventually we're going to realize it isn't sustainable or healthy to keep mass producing beef, pork, or chicken


Eat what you want, but only starvation will make me consider bugs. Hint:Bugs will never be a part of my diet.
 
2014-02-16 02:12:55 PM

LordJiro: Ow! That was my feelings!: LordJiro: Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.

So the cultures that regularly eat bugs (which, I dare say, probably outnumber those that don't) are 'nutbars'?

No, I'm saying they don't eat them by choice. It's delusional to think Americans are going to switch to bugs, "because environment!!!!!" And when beef gets too expensive, deer and feral hogs will become much more popular.

And when wild deer or feral hog populations can't meet the needs for hundreds of millions of Americans?


I will be long dead and won't care.
 
2014-02-16 02:15:05 PM

Semper IvXx: Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.

I don't get why it's delusional. There's nothing wrong with eating bugs. Other than the "ewww" factor that most people get over in childhood.

It's cheaper than any other source of protein (at least animal protein). They don't taste weird (at least the ones I've had). And even the ick factor isn't an issue when you grind them up and put it in something else. So what's delusional about wanting spoiled Western civilizations (because that's really the only place it's an issue since most of the rest of the world supplements their diets with insects, only us fat spoiled Americans and some Europeans demand 40 oz of animal protein at every meal) to at least start working some cheap sustainable food into their diets?

/a steak is always going to be great, but eventually we're going to realize it isn't sustainable or healthy to keep mass producing beef, pork, or chicken


That's just it.  What we see as "edible" and what we see as "gross" is influenced by the culture we grow up in.

Grub tacos  Those grubs are fried with bacon, apparently, or with generous spices.

Silkworm pupae in Korea  These things are eaten as a snack.

Apparently, we Westerners are in a minority here.

I'm betting that some of those cultures would be grossed out by all the meat we eat, especially if they were to visit a feedlot and a slaughterhouse.
 
2014-02-16 02:17:39 PM
LordJiro ,
So the cultures that regularly eat bugs (which, I dare say, probably outnumber those that don't) are 'nutbars'?


Good point. I know some some countries in asia will eat bugs, for instance silk worms and dried grasshopper, but they are not a staple, just a snack. Others will eat those 17 year bugs if given a chance. There are probably lots of small [referencing size] cultures that eat bugs quite a bit.

Introducing it to the United States and expecting to be taken seriously, that is nutbar.

Then again the tiny liberal fringe of the United States has a history of doing silly things. See PETA, sometimes Code Pink, ect.
 
2014-02-16 02:20:46 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: LordJiro: Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.

So the cultures that regularly eat bugs (which, I dare say, probably outnumber those that don't) are 'nutbars'?

No, I'm saying they don't eat them by choice. It's delusional to think Americans are going to switch to bugs, "because environment!!!!!" And when beef gets too expensive, deer and feral hogs will become much more popular.


I wouldn't mind seeing them thin out feral hogs, but I'll point out that the reason there's such strict population controls on whitetail deer is because they nearly went extinct during the Great Depression.

After being involved in deer butchering, squirrel and rabbit skinning, etc., I'm not so sure that bugs are any grosser than any of those, tbh.  Most people's relationship to meat (including me, nowadays) is that there's this red stuff that comes wrapped in plastic at the grocery store.
 
2014-02-16 02:21:34 PM
Yummy,
Not hotlinking as this might make some people sick.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Deepfried_cicada. jp g
 
2014-02-16 02:24:34 PM
www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-02-16 02:24:37 PM

theMightyRegeya: Ow! That was my feelings!: LordJiro: Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.

So the cultures that regularly eat bugs (which, I dare say, probably outnumber those that don't) are 'nutbars'?

No, I'm saying they don't eat them by choice. It's delusional to think Americans are going to switch to bugs, "because environment!!!!!" And when beef gets too expensive, deer and feral hogs will become much more popular.

I wouldn't mind seeing them thin out feral hogs, but I'll point out that the reason there's such strict population controls on whitetail deer is because they nearly went extinct during the Great Depression.

After being involved in deer butchering, squirrel and rabbit skinning, etc., I'm not so sure that bugs are any grosser than any of those, tbh.  Most people's relationship to meat (including me, nowadays) is that there's this red stuff that comes wrapped in plastic at the grocery store.


Oh, I regularly refer to deer as 'forest rats'. I've hunted all my life, I understand. Still several magnitudes of gross from eating bugs, for me anyway.
 
2014-02-16 02:30:16 PM
I had one of these as a child and you could make bugs with it.

www.creepyfun.com
 
2014-02-16 02:30:40 PM
You don't need a DIY bug farm. A mass-produced bug farm will get you off the grid just as well.
Which won't make you very well.
 
2014-02-16 02:34:17 PM
After eyeballing that tub full of worms Soylent Green doesn't sound so bad.
 
2014-02-16 02:36:24 PM
I ate crickets in Oaxaca, Mexico. They were fried. They tasted like those shoestring potato fries.

I ate chocolate covered crickets too (in Indiana) but they were kind of gross. Since they weren't fried, you could feel the little legs in your mouth. I ate a chocolate covered worm, that was better.

My brother has had animal brain soup.. I thing it was a cow brain. He said it was delicious. I'll eat bugs, don't know if I could eat that.
 
2014-02-16 02:37:23 PM

MemeSlave: Fried and ground into meal, added to a vegetable recipe - you probably wouldn't know they were there, but you'd be getting adequate nutrition.


Hahahaha, wouldn't know it was there? Yeah, try handing out fried bugs with friends. A spoonful will usually induce nausea. I've bought multiple kinds of fried bugs to try myself and let others try. The problem from my experience, most people get nausea and vomit from bug proteins and frying doesn't change the nausea problem. The truth is bugs have little meat and if they are undercooked they spread disease and in a large portion of the population they causes nausea. There is a small portion of the population who don't get nausea from eating bugs. There is also a small portion of the population that is ok with eating raw pork fat or catching rats to eat. But neither of those are going to become popular.

What it comes down to is the whole bugs are food argument looks like a lot of wishful thinking like wishing that "boys and girls have identical brain structures" because we wish it so. The reality is that boys and girls do have differences in brain connectivity independent of if you dress them in tutu's or not. You can wish it wasn't so all you want but most people get nausea from eating bugs, no matter how the bugs look or how they are cooked. And of course some people don't get nausea from bugs, there are also people who don't have a gag reflex.

On a tangent, trying to understand vegetarians take on things, it's interesting that most vegetarians I know have told me that meat makes them want to vomit. I suspect a significant percentage of the "meat makes me want to vomit" crowd is suffering from a common tick byte immune reaction discovered a couple years ago. Many ticks can cause an immune reaction that permanently or at least for years, will cause a person to have nausea if they eat meat. I don't know if it also changes their reaction to eating insects, but that wouldn't surprise me. I've known a lot of vegetarian art friends who obsess about walking in the woods and are constantly getting tick bytes. Since it is known that tick bytes can cause aversion to meat, I wonder if it can also increase a persons desire to wander in tick infested areas, similar to how toxoplasma can cause behavior changes in humans and mice.

More on target, what I think is going to become common are vat grown meats. Vat grown meat offers a protein source that doesn't cause nausea in the vast majority of people. The meat is murder groups won't support vat grown meats, but they are a neurotic minority. The future of meat will come from a lab, not from a mealworm bin. And if there is food we get from a mealworm bin, it will be questionable quality filler like pink slime in the meat industry.
 
2014-02-16 02:39:20 PM

Enemabag Jones: e PETA, sometimes Code Pink, ect.


Enemabag Jones: Good point. I know some some countries in asia will eat bugs, for instance silk worms and dried grasshopper, but they are not a staple, just a snack. Others will eat those 17 year bugs if given a chance. There are probably lots of small [referencing size] cultures that eat bugs quite a bit.

Introducing it to the United States and expecting to be taken seriously, that is nutbar.

Then again the tiny liberal fringe of the United States has a history of doing silly things. See PETA, sometimes Code Pink, ect.



I just can't classify PETA as American seeing that Ingrid is English.
We might be but we ain't taking the claim for that crazy.
 
2014-02-16 02:44:22 PM
 
2014-02-16 02:48:47 PM
First of all, nearly everyone eats insects and other land arthropods pretty much all the time.  It's inevitable.  Hell, you probably accidentally swallow a few of them in your sleep each week, let alone the accidental and purposeful additions of them to your food.

Second, for most of us, the aversion to eating insects is entirely arbitrary cultural brainwashing.  Sure there are always specific reasons why a person might want to avoid (as much as possible) insects as a food source, but as a society, it's actually bizarre that we don't incorporate more of them into our diet.  In some ways, it's comparable to the "lobster story" in recent history, where lobsters used to be considered trash food and was fed to prisoners, but now it's considered very good eating by many people.

There are many, many edible insects out there to feast on.  They don't all taste the same, they don't all have the same texture.  It's like how duck, turkey, chicken, pheasant are all birds, but each is distinct in texture and taste.  Same goes for arthropods.
 
2014-02-16 02:51:05 PM
TenJed_77,
I just can't classify PETA as American seeing that Ingrid is English.
We might be but we ain't taking the claim for that crazy.


I didn't mean to get hung up on one organization in the previous post, but since you brought it up.

Peta in the late 90's and early 2000's were on the fringe. They still could be, however their public image has moderated recently with their anything for attention campaigns with women in bikinis in cages have stopped.
 
2014-02-16 02:55:49 PM
In related news. I found the cheap secret ingredient that makes McDonald's profitable.

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2014-02-16 02:58:05 PM

hi13760: In related news. I found the cheap secret ingredient that makes McDonald's profitable.

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Animal by-products, vegetable based fillers, or the tears of poorly paid employees?
 
2014-02-16 02:59:20 PM

Vector R: I'd rather switch to all beans for my protein needs. Do Not Want.


ultraholland: Lentils FTW



These. Very much so. I could swallow a vegetarian or even vegan diet much easier than even the thought of having to eat bugs & worms. I did buy a small can of fried crickets once and finished half of it, just to test the possibilities, but fortunately the USA is a big pan-global empire that would reduce the rest of the world to eating bugs to survive.

Semper IvXx: /a steak is always going to be great, but eventually we're going to realize it isn't sustainable or healthy to keep mass producing beef, pork, or chicken


The big problem is there are too damn many people on the planet. And, while some have to eat bugs to survive and some get their legs sawed off at 42 because of diabetes complications, most of them reproduce at unsustainable levels. The world population has more than doubled in the past 40 years.

If y'all won't commit to negative population growth at least encourage cannibalism. You could start by making Diabeetus Leg a delicacy and by widely publicizing those websites where people who want to eat people and those who want to be eaten can meet & greet. It's the same idea as being an organ donor, right? (And no, I'm not frigging kidding.)

By the way, I might offer free room & board to a friendly Farkette who's good at low-calorie vegetarian/vegan food preparation. Organic food is probably too expensive on my  SNAP/EBT budget but I could easily could keep us two from going hungry on rice & beans etc. It might be nice to spend my declining years watching my belly decline as well. Yes, there is the option of changing my diet all by myself, but in general my life goes much better when a woman helps me run it.

Note that "helps me" part: I'm not looking for a stilettoed dominatrix, but a friendly and efficient manager of time, personnel & resources. All ya gotta do is be basically nice to be around and use my EBT card & kitchen to feed me like you eat. (Well, and put up with my wacky self: specifying that up front that should mean fewer applications to sort through anyway.) You might also teach me to cook cheap healthy meals: my culinary skills concern mainly dead animals.

I'll also do all the housework, instead of letting the mess pile up like it does now. It'd be almost like a vacation for that lucky person. Really.
 EIP!

/ By the way, are my posts better at night when I'm not sober or does it only feel that way?
 
2014-02-16 03:06:29 PM

knobmaker: Ow! That was my feelings!: No, I'm saying they don't eat them by choice.

So you're dumb?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0715_040715_tvinsect fo od.html


No where near as dumb as you if you think Americans are going to choose bugs over steak, pork chops, bacon, chicken wings, etc.
 
2014-02-16 03:07:40 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Semper IvXx: Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.

I don't get why it's delusional. There's nothing wrong with eating bugs. Other than the "ewww" factor that most people get over in childhood.

It's cheaper than any other source of protein (at least animal protein). They don't taste weird (at least the ones I've had). And even the ick factor isn't an issue when you grind them up and put it in something else. So what's delusional about wanting spoiled Western civilizations (because that's really the only place it's an issue since most of the rest of the world supplements their diets with insects, only us fat spoiled Americans and some Europeans demand 40 oz of animal protein at every meal) to at least start working some cheap sustainable food into their diets?

/a steak is always going to be great, but eventually we're going to realize it isn't sustainable or healthy to keep mass producing beef, pork, or chicken

Eat what you want, but only starvation will make me consider bugs. Hint:Bugs will never be a part of my diet.


So the idea of eating bugs isn't delusional. You are.

/it sure is easy to say you'd starve before you'd eat bugs when you can drive your fat ass down to McDonalds for a Big Mac isn't it? Hint: if you were really starving anything you could get your hands on would become part of your diet
 
2014-02-16 03:12:57 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: LordJiro: Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.

So the cultures that regularly eat bugs (which, I dare say, probably outnumber those that don't) are 'nutbars'?

No, I'm saying they don't eat them by choice. It's delusional to think Americans are going to switch to bugs, "because environment!!!!!" And when beef gets too expensive, deer and feral hogs will become much more popular.


I've had some friends for whom grubs were by far their favorite food. They didn't get them very often, but loved it when they did.

They weren't nutbars either, for what it's worth.
 
2014-02-16 03:19:56 PM

stuhayes2010: Like them or hate them. Face it. Bugs will be in western culinary future. Cows are too damn expensive.


We're already comfortable eating "aquatic exoskeleton-Americans". Why not land-based ones?
 
2014-02-16 03:25:28 PM

MrHappyRotter: First of all, nearly everyone eats insects and other land arthropods pretty much all the time.  It's inevitable.  Hell, you probably accidentally swallow a few of them in your sleep each week, let alone the accidental and purposeful additions of them to your food.


Claim: The average person swallows eight spiders per year.
Status: False

This myth is supposedly based on statistics, which ignores details such as how spiders actually behave.
 
2014-02-16 03:26:04 PM
Yeah, right.  So raw fish, eel, octopus, abalone, and fish eggs are an expensive sushi gourmet dinner, but this is too gross? Deep fry and serve with lemon, butter, and garlic and they're probably just fine.
Eating spiders is gross, but lobster and crab are a delicacy?
 
2014-02-16 03:30:07 PM

Hollie Maea: Ow! That was my feelings!: LordJiro: Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.

So the cultures that regularly eat bugs (which, I dare say, probably outnumber those that don't) are 'nutbars'?

No, I'm saying they don't eat them by choice. It's delusional to think Americans are going to switch to bugs, "because environment!!!!!" And when beef gets too expensive, deer and feral hogs will become much more popular.

I've had some friends for whom grubs were by far their favorite food. They didn't get them very often, but loved it when they did.

They weren't nutbars either, for what it's worth.


Didn't say folks that like bugs are nutbars.  I said people that are trying to convince Americans to eat bugs as an alternative to their other protein options are delusional nutbars.
 
2014-02-16 03:30:45 PM

The One True TheDavid: Vector R: I'd rather switch to all beans for my protein needs. Do Not Want.

ultraholland: Lentils FTW


These. Very much so. I could swallow a vegetarian or even vegan diet much easier than even the thought of having to eat bugs & worms. I did buy a small can of fried crickets once and finished half of it, just to test the possibilities, but fortunately the USA is a big pan-global empire that would reduce the rest of the world to eating bugs to survive.

Semper IvXx: /a steak is always going to be great, but eventually we're going to realize it isn't sustainable or healthy to keep mass producing beef, pork, or chicken

The big problem is there are too damn many people on the planet. And, while some have to eat bugs to survive and some get their legs sawed off at 42 because of diabetes complications, most of them reproduce at unsustainable levels. The world population has more than doubled in the past 40 years.

If y'all won't commit to negative population growth at least encourage cannibalism. You could start by making Diabeetus Leg a delicacy and by widely publicizing those websites where people who want to eat people and those who want to be eaten can meet & greet. It's the same idea as being an organ donor, right? (And no, I'm not frigging kidding.)

By the way, I might offer free room & board to a friendly Farkette who's good at low-calorie vegetarian/vegan food preparation. Organic food is probably too expensive on my  SNAP/EBT budget but I could easily could keep us two from going hungry on rice & beans etc. It might be nice to spend my declining years watching my belly decline as well. Yes, there is the option of changing my diet all by myself, but in general my life goes much better when a woman helps me run it.

Note that "helps me" part: I'm not looking for a stilettoed dominatrix, but a friendly and efficient manager of time, personnel & resources. All ya gotta do is be basically nice to be around and use my EBT card & kitchen to feed me like you eat. (Well, and put up with my wacky self: specifying that up front that should mean fewer applications to sort through anyway.) You might also teach me to cook cheap healthy meals: my culinary skills concern mainly dead animals.

I'll also do all the housework, instead of letting the mess pile up like it does now. It'd be almost like a vacation for that lucky person. Really.
 EIP!

/ By the way, are my posts better at night when I'm not sober or does it only feel that way?


I'm very friendly, and a good cook too.

But I go vegetarian for no one. Beans & rice are a side dish...for steak.

Ya don't make friends with salad. :D
 
2014-02-16 03:33:50 PM

Semper IvXx: Ow! That was my feelings!: Semper IvXx: Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.

I don't get why it's delusional. There's nothing wrong with eating bugs. Other than the "ewww" factor that most people get over in childhood.

It's cheaper than any other source of protein (at least animal protein). They don't taste weird (at least the ones I've had). And even the ick factor isn't an issue when you grind them up and put it in something else. So what's delusional about wanting spoiled Western civilizations (because that's really the only place it's an issue since most of the rest of the world supplements their diets with insects, only us fat spoiled Americans and some Europeans demand 40 oz of animal protein at every meal) to at least start working some cheap sustainable food into their diets?

/a steak is always going to be great, but eventually we're going to realize it isn't sustainable or healthy to keep mass producing beef, pork, or chicken

Eat what you want, but only starvation will make me consider bugs. Hint:Bugs will never be a part of my diet.

So the idea of eating bugs isn't delusional. You are.

/it sure is easy to say you'd starve before you'd eat bugs when you can drive your fat ass down to McDonalds for a Big Mac isn't it? Hint: if you were really starving anything you could get your hands on would become part of your diet


I stated I would need to be in a starvation situation before it would be a realistic option.  It is very far fetched, especially considering my hunting options, that would ever happen.  Trying to convince Americans to eat bugs with their other current options is certainly a waste of time and you are delusional if think otherwise.
 
2014-02-16 03:39:38 PM
My cousin lives in the jungle and eats bugs. He loves it.

He showed me a picture of a feast where they had a bug stuffed boa or python. It looked pretty good actually.

But I'll eat anything and they say bugs are very good for you.

I'll grant you different, but sick? Hardly. It's food.

Not anymore sick than the mashed up and cooked brains/feet/asshole slurry that gets turned into your "ground beef"
 
2014-02-16 03:41:48 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: theMightyRegeya: Ow! That was my feelings!: LordJiro: Ow! That was my feelings!: I think the eat bugs push is hilarious and delusional. It's like certain parts of the 'sustainability movement' are deliberately trying to get people to never take them seriously. Keep up the good work, nutbars! PETA is proud of ya.

So the cultures that regularly eat bugs (which, I dare say, probably outnumber those that don't) are 'nutbars'?

No, I'm saying they don't eat them by choice. It's delusional to think Americans are going to switch to bugs, "because environment!!!!!" And when beef gets too expensive, deer and feral hogs will become much more popular.

I wouldn't mind seeing them thin out feral hogs, but I'll point out that the reason there's such strict population controls on whitetail deer is because they nearly went extinct during the Great Depression.

After being involved in deer butchering, squirrel and rabbit skinning, etc., I'm not so sure that bugs are any grosser than any of those, tbh.  Most people's relationship to meat (including me, nowadays) is that there's this red stuff that comes wrapped in plastic at the grocery store.

Oh, I regularly refer to deer as 'forest rats'. I've hunted all my life, I understand. Still several magnitudes of gross from eating bugs, for me anyway.

Yeah me too! Can't see eating bugs, even though I grew up on a farm and we not only hunted but slaughtered our own pigs, chickens, rabbits, etc.
 
2014-02-16 03:46:50 PM
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Well, bugs are "meat."  You might want to be a bit more specific.
 
2014-02-16 04:00:19 PM
Swallowed a fly, once, by accident.  Could really do without that.  Maybe, I'd try the fried ones.  No eating tarantulas or scorpions, like they do in some parts of the world.

/ People talking about eating brains.  Remember prions, just saying.
 
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