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(Japan Today)   Woman stabbed by stalker ex-boyfriend despite consulting police five times. Apparently their "solution" had been to order him to write statement promising that he would leave her alone forever   (japantoday.com) divider line 80
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2014-02-15 09:25:00 PM
Damn. Cops dropped the ball U.S style.
 
2014-02-15 10:00:08 PM
Once wasn't enough. They needed to make him write it 100 times on the blackboard.
 
2014-02-15 10:14:44 PM
Why is this on the geek tab? Am I missing something?
 
2014-02-15 10:15:21 PM

Nina Haagen Dazs: Damn. Cops dropped the ball U.S style.


Japanese police are really good at not doing very much very conspicuously. In many, many ways this is good thing. They're everywhere downtown, giving directions, being visible, less than two minutes away at all times. However it also means they're not very useful in cases like this.
 
2014-02-15 10:29:10 PM

doglover: Nina Haagen Dazs: Damn. Cops dropped the ball U.S style.

Japanese police are really good at not doing very much very conspicuously. In many, many ways this is good thing. They're everywhere downtown, giving directions, being visible, less than two minutes away at all times. However it also means they're not very useful in cases like this.


You mean in cases where a police officer is needed, as opposed to a city guide?
 
2014-02-15 10:29:35 PM

dark side of the moon: Why is this on the geek tab? Am I missing something?


Same exact question.
 
2014-02-15 10:31:08 PM

Herr Flick's Revenge: dark side of the moon: Why is this on the geek tab? Am I missing something?

Same exact question.


Maybe it's a byproduct of the (Featured Partner) thing...I've noticed those tend to rotate at random, in every tab.
 
2014-02-15 10:37:04 PM
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2014-02-15 10:48:46 PM
Well, they've got him on being a liar.
 
2014-02-15 10:56:50 PM

dark side of the moon: Why is this on the geek tab? Am I missing something?


Because somebody's going to claim this confirms HL:3.
 
2014-02-15 10:57:14 PM

buckler: doglover: Nina Haagen Dazs: Damn. Cops dropped the ball U.S style.

Japanese police are really good at not doing very much very conspicuously. In many, many ways this is good thing. They're everywhere downtown, giving directions, being visible, less than two minutes away at all times. However it also means they're not very useful in cases like this.

You mean in cases where a police officer is needed, as opposed to a city guide?


Not quite. They will fark you up if they see you do anything wrong, and they have pill boxes all over the city. They have 1.5 meter long sticks, shields, revolvers, spray... Lots of cop toys to do it with, too. And they're bored.

But this? This is a personal issue and in the Japanese zeitgeist it's abhorrent that this would become a stabbing, but the stuff leading up to it is personal business, not legal. You wash your dirty laundry at home.
 
2014-02-15 11:17:50 PM
This was posted to the geek tab? Huh....now I need to look up the definition of geek because apparently it doesn't mean what I thought it meant.
 
2014-02-15 11:19:18 PM

doglover: Nina Haagen Dazs: Damn. Cops dropped the ball U.S style.

Japanese police are really good at not doing very much very conspicuously. In many, many ways this is good thing. They're everywhere downtown, giving directions, being visible, less than two minutes away at all times. However it also means they're not very useful in cases like this.


Heh....I could not imagine me asking a cop for directions.
 
2014-02-15 11:21:22 PM
He probably wrote the letter in Japanese which isn't binding because nobody can read Japanese writing.
 
2014-02-15 11:27:30 PM
Want to know what works better than asking the police for protection that they have no legal requirement ot provide?  Getting a gun and shooting the farking stalker when he attacks you.

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.
 
2014-02-15 11:28:14 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: dark side of the moon: Why is this on the geek tab? Am I missing something?

Because somebody's going to claim this confirms HL:3.


He stabbed her, not hit her with a wrench.
 
2014-02-15 11:28:34 PM

dark side of the moon: Why is this on the geek tab? Am I missing something?


Because it was in Japan.

Japan equals manga therefore geek topic.
 
2014-02-15 11:28:36 PM

CruiserTwelve: He probably wrote the letter in Japanese which isn't binding because nobody can read Japanese writing.


i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-02-15 11:52:26 PM

OgreMagi: Want to know what works better than asking the police for protection that they have no legal requirement ot provide?  Getting a gun and shooting the farking stalker when he attacks you.

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.


Want to know what you can't do legally or even illegally in Tokyo, Japan?

Go ahead. Guess.
 
2014-02-16 12:00:59 AM

doglover: OgreMagi: Want to know what works better than asking the police for protection that they have no legal requirement ot provide?  Getting a gun and shooting the farking stalker when he attacks you.

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

Want to know what you can't do legally or even illegally in Tokyo, Japan?

Go ahead. Guess.


Sell uncensored porn?
 
2014-02-16 12:02:23 AM

dark side of the moon: Why is this on the geek tab? Am I missing something?


He bit her head off?
 
2014-02-16 12:11:44 AM

Teufelaffe: doglover: OgreMagi: Want to know what works better than asking the police for protection that they have no legal requirement ot provide?  Getting a gun and shooting the farking stalker when he attacks you.

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

Want to know what you can't do legally or even illegally in Tokyo, Japan?

Go ahead. Guess.

Sell uncensored porn?


theinfosphere.org
 
2014-02-16 12:46:05 AM

doglover: OgreMagi: Want to know what works better than asking the police for protection that they have no legal requirement ot provide?  Getting a gun and shooting the farking stalker when he attacks you.

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

Want to know what you can't do legally or even illegally in Tokyo, Japan?

Go ahead. Guess.


I'm well aware of that.  It doesn't change what I said.
 
2014-02-16 01:15:29 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: dark side of the moon: Why is this on the geek tab? Am I missing something?

Because somebody's going to claim this confirms HL:3.


Don't even joke about something like that. Someone's hopes might get up.
 
2014-02-16 01:46:32 AM

OgreMagi: Want to know what works better than asking the police for protection that they have no legal requirement ot provide?  Getting a gun and shooting the farking stalker when he attacks you.

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.


I don't understand why people cling onto this silly power fantasy. It's so childish and illogical.

In a world where everyone has a gun, it's stupid to think that criminals and sociopaths won't change their behaviour. Why wouldn't they just start shooting first in every case, particularly if the choice to not do so means that they go from being in control of the situation to potentially being killed.

Hell, it even makes the death penalty useless as a deterrent for crime. After all, you kill someone you go to the chair, but if you don't kill someone, then they'll turn around and kill you. Not much of a farking choice at that point is it?
 
2014-02-16 01:53:16 AM
Two counts against the woman:

A) this was a personal matter
B) she's a woman and Japan is still incredibly sexist

She should have gone to the yakuza instead, they may have actually helped. Sad to say. This is also why Japan has such a low rate of rape - a lot of real rapes are not recorded by the police. They've only just recently started to kinda sorta get ahold of the train molestation issue, seriously Japan is pretty farked up.

That said, the US is more violent and rape is more common, and plenty of cities in the US do equally bad shiat - do the rape kit then never test it or follow up. Rape kits sitting in evidence rooms for years and years, piling up.

Still, I am not at all surprised by this happening in Japan.
 
2014-02-16 02:03:42 AM

TwistedFark: OgreMagi: Want to know what works better than asking the police for protection that they have no legal requirement ot provide?  Getting a gun and shooting the farking stalker when he attacks you.

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

I don't understand why people cling onto this silly power fantasy. It's so childish and illogical.

In a world where everyone has a gun, it's stupid to think that criminals and sociopaths won't change their behaviour. Why wouldn't they just start shooting first in every case, particularly if the choice to not do so means that they go from being in control of the situation to potentially being killed.

Hell, it even makes the death penalty useless as a deterrent for crime. After all, you kill someone you go to the chair, but if you don't kill someone, then they'll turn around and kill you. Not much of a farking choice at that point is it?


I think that's an even sillier fantasy, personally. People have a self-preservation instinct. Some people will be desperate to shoot first, yes. But that's no different than it is today when they shoot out of anxiety or fear when performing a criminal act. Others, however... will have to weigh the risks vs. the pay-off even more. If 'everybody' had a gun, then they change their behavior. But it wouldn't automatically default to the worst case scenario of 'it's them or me'. The scenario would still exist, sure. But it'd be relative to the crime intended to be committed.

If anything, whatever they plan on doing it would have to be bad enough to die for. Mug someone? You better make sure they would have enough money to make the risk of getting killed worth it. Life is all about gambles and risks. And not everyone who is a criminal is willing to bid their life (or large swaths of time in prison) for particular crimes. If the person does not have a gun, then the gamble could be perceived as more in their favor -- in their eyes the risks are lower and the payoff greater.

However, if they know their victim is carrying, they factor that into the equation and may not even go after them. Then again they might. It's unknowable how many crimes are avoided entirely by a criminal deciding that the risks were too big, especially if the person being armed with a lethal weapon is factored into that risk.
 
2014-02-16 02:30:12 AM
The UN is already in discussions to recruit these guys.
 
2014-02-16 03:02:36 AM

fusillade762: dark side of the moon:

Why is this on the geek tab? Am I missing something?

He bit her head off?


That's the real meaning of geek: a guy in the carnival who's funny-looking but not overly deformed, not very bright or at least good at looking stupid (my forte), and who doesn't really have a talent, act or shtick, so he'll do "wild & crazy" shiat like bite the heads of live chickens, sit over the dunk tank, eat weird things the audience brings him, etc.

But it's okay if you younguns need to reinvent the language. Given that your idea of wit is quoting old movies...
 
2014-02-16 03:07:00 AM
By the way, there's something odd about men who threaten violence to her, themselves or others as a way to get her back. You're supposed to solve the problem in a "liberal" fashion, though waiting till she gets desperate and crawls back might work too.


/ That's sexist, I know, but not always untrue.
 
2014-02-16 03:25:37 AM

adamatari: That said, the US is more violent and rape is more common, and plenty of cities in the US do equally bad shiat - do the rape kit then never test it or follow up. Rape kits sitting in evidence rooms for years and years, piling up.


How do you know?  Since reporting rape in Japan is highly discouraged, we don't have any way of knowing how severe the problem could be.
 
2014-02-16 03:26:57 AM

The One True TheDavid: fusillade762: dark side of the moon:

Why is this on the geek tab? Am I missing something?

He bit her head off?

That's the real meaning of geek: a guy in the carnival who's funny-looking but not overly deformed, not very bright or at least good at looking stupid (my forte), and who doesn't really have a talent, act or shtick, so he'll do "wild & crazy" shiat like bite the heads of live chickens, sit over the dunk tank, eat weird things the audience brings him, etc.

But it's okay if you younguns need to reinvent the language. Given that your idea of wit is quoting old movies...


Well since your idea of wit is being a picky asshole about everything I guess we're even.
 
2014-02-16 03:28:25 AM
Unless he stabbed her with a sentient, speaking sword made of light and fire or with multiple tentacle appendages, I don't see how this article belongs here.
 
2014-02-16 03:32:01 AM

dark side of the moon: Why is this on the geek tab? Am I missing something?


Maybe he used a knife made in a 3d printer....
 
2014-02-16 04:05:40 AM

OgreMagi: adamatari: That said, the US is more violent and rape is more common, and plenty of cities in the US do equally bad shiat - do the rape kit then never test it or follow up. Rape kits sitting in evidence rooms for years and years, piling up.

How do you know?  Since reporting rape in Japan is highly discouraged, we don't have any way of knowing how severe the problem could be.


I'm gonna go out on a limb and say violent EVERYTHING is way lower in Japan. Except maybe animated violence.
 
2014-02-16 04:07:05 AM
www.addletters.com
 
2014-02-16 04:13:48 AM
I'm calling bullshiat on this. What type of man would stalk a 52 year old woman? Well maybe if the man was 80 or 90, but what 80 or 90 year old man has the energy to stalk anything but the toilet?
 
2014-02-16 04:42:11 AM
sebastiansgames.com
 
2014-02-16 04:52:47 AM

doglover: Want to know what you can't do legally or even illegally in Tokyo, Japan?


Head of Japanese Restaurant chain is shot dead.

You can still do it illegally.
Their excessive cop presence helps to keep the plebs in line but only has a marginal effect on organized crime.
 
2014-02-16 05:05:47 AM

OgreMagi: Want to know what works better than asking the police for protection that they have no legal requirement ot provide?  Getting a gun and shooting the farking stalker when he attacks you.

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.


Yes, the gun bans in Japan are why it has sky-high murder rates compared to the US.

Look, if you like your gun, that's fine, and no one in the US is going to come take it from you. But Japan has a pretty good thing going. They have an incredible safe country with one of the lowest rates of homicide in the world. What they're doing is obviously working and simply letting people own handguns would be very unlikely to have a positive impact on their society.
 
2014-02-16 05:18:44 AM
If only she would have gotten a legally binding restraining order, then it would have been totally different...
 
2014-02-16 05:35:24 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: OgreMagi: Want to know what works better than asking the police for protection that they have no legal requirement ot provide?  Getting a gun and shooting the farking stalker when he attacks you.

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

Yes, the gun bans in Japan are why it has sky-high murder rates compared to the US.

Look, if you like your gun, that's fine, and no one in the US is going to come take it from you. But Japan has a pretty good thing going. They have an incredible safe country with one of the lowest rates of homicide in the world. What they're doing is obviously working and simply letting people own handguns would be very unlikely to have a positive impact on their society.


There are so many cultural, geographic, and governmental differences that increased gun ownership in Japan probably wouldn't change much.
Its not like they were big on firearms ownership when the Emperor and his goons were running the show unquestioned (and less so in the occupied aftermath).
They spend alot of money on social services, infrastructure and cops. This tends to head off internal troubles when most of your cities are built with everything in walking distance for a singular highly social culture. 
The US, a more widely laid out and diverse population with a strong independent streak and an ongoing drug war, tends to spend its money on super carriers and stealth jets so the communists won't harass places like Japan.  If we took their approach it would fail and result in other nations having less money to sprinkle on their own populations.

/Also, the "no ones coming for your gun" myth has been dispelled since Katrina.
/They came, they took, they gave no
receipts for confiscated property and as of yet no ones held them to account.
 
2014-02-16 07:10:00 AM

way south: doglover: Want to know what you can't do legally or even illegally in Tokyo, Japan?

Head of Japanese Restaurant chain is shot dead.

You can still do it illegally.
Their excessive cop presence helps to keep the plebs in line but only has a marginal effect on organized crime.


Actually the organized crime is a secondary police force. I saw a guy try to walk out of a 7-11 without paying once in Kabukicho. They swarmed him. Every pimp, yak, and n'er do well in the gumi was on him. Like 40 people. They stripped him half naked hand beat him till police showed up. The cops were 100 yards away. Took 'em 4 minutes to get there. They knew what was what.
 
2014-02-16 07:18:37 AM

doglover: OgreMagi: adamatari: That said, the US is more violent and rape is more common, and plenty of cities in the US do equally bad shiat - do the rape kit then never test it or follow up. Rape kits sitting in evidence rooms for years and years, piling up.

How do you know?  Since reporting rape in Japan is highly discouraged, we don't have any way of knowing how severe the problem could be.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say violent EVERYTHING is way lower in Japan. Except maybe animated violence.


You would do better to say, "I'm going to pull a guess out of my ass."  Again, we don't know the rate of rape in because women in Japan are loath to report it.  You have nothing to base your assumption upon, so why don't you just admit you don't farking know.
 
2014-02-16 07:28:49 AM

way south: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: OgreMagi: Want to know what works better than asking the police for protection that they have no legal requirement ot provide?  Getting a gun and shooting the farking stalker when he attacks you.

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

Yes, the gun bans in Japan are why it has sky-high murder rates compared to the US.

Look, if you like your gun, that's fine, and no one in the US is going to come take it from you. But Japan has a pretty good thing going. They have an incredible safe country with one of the lowest rates of homicide in the world. What they're doing is obviously working and simply letting people own handguns would be very unlikely to have a positive impact on their society.

There are so many cultural, geographic, and governmental differences that increased gun ownership in Japan probably wouldn't change much.
Its not like they were big on firearms ownership when the Emperor and his goons were running the show unquestioned (and less so in the occupied aftermath).
They spend alot of money on social services, infrastructure and cops. This tends to head off internal troubles when most of your cities are built with everything in walking distance for a singular highly social culture. 
The US, a more widely laid out and diverse population with a strong independent streak and an ongoing drug war, tends to spend its money on super carriers and stealth jets so the communists won't harass places like Japan.  If we took their approach it would fail and result in other nations having less money to sprinkle on their own populations.

/Also, the "no ones coming for your gun" myth has been dispelled since Katrina.
/They came, they took, they gave noreceipts for confiscated property and as of yet no ones held them to account.


What's it like, to be such a pants-wetting coward you can't go anywhere or think of anything except your fear, and how you have to have a gun to conquer your fear?
 
2014-02-16 08:04:42 AM

doglover: Actually the organized crime is a secondary police force. I saw a guy try to walk out of a 7-11 without paying once in Kabukicho. They swarmed him. Every pimp, yak, and n'er do well in the gumi was on him. Like 40 people. They stripped him half naked hand beat him till police showed up. The cops were 100 yards away. Took 'em 4 minutes to get there. They knew what was what.


Aside from you know, the sex slavery, the drug running, and taking debtors to clean up Fukushima, the Yakuza is totally the same as the police.

Stripped naked and beaten half to death for stealing from a 7-11? That's not a bit much? What happened to the non violent japan?

I would also like to point out that when the Japanese want to kill a bunch of people, they don't NEED an assault rifle. They manufacture Sarin Nerve Gas, and release it on the subway.

Or they go on machete beheading massacres.

But hey! Some Cops in japan are trained in the art of arresting people with rope bondage. I shiat you not. These dudes can tie a person up differently, depending on severity of crime, and their social status in a matter of seconds.  So they have that.

/Japan is a farked up xenophobic place, and they know it, which is why they want robots for their elderly instead of icky foreigners
 
2014-02-16 08:07:20 AM

ghare: What's it like, to be such a pants-wetting coward you can't go anywhere or think of anything except your fear, and how you have to have a gun to conquer your fear?


I imagine it's much like being such a coward you are wetting your pants in fear over an event that has a 3 in 100,000 chance in happening to you.

/Lightning strikes have better odds
//So do car crashes
///And DUIs'
 
2014-02-16 08:08:09 AM

OgreMagi: doglover: OgreMagi: adamatari: That said, the US is more violent and rape is more common, and plenty of cities in the US do equally bad shiat - do the rape kit then never test it or follow up. Rape kits sitting in evidence rooms for years and years, piling up.

How do you know?  Since reporting rape in Japan is highly discouraged, we don't have any way of knowing how severe the problem could be.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say violent EVERYTHING is way lower in Japan. Except maybe animated violence.

You would do better to say, "I'm going to pull a guess out of my ass."  Again, we don't know the rate of rape in because women in Japan are loath to report it.  You have nothing to base your assumption upon, so why don't you just admit you don't farking know.


I only have a decade or so experience in dealing with Japanese firsthand. I'm sure you've actually sat down and interviewed 10,000+ Japanese nationals of all ages too, though. So I guess that makes us even. Right? Right?
 
2014-02-16 08:10:20 AM

doglover: I only have a decade or so experience in dealing with Japanese firsthand.


On the internet, nobody knows you are a dog-farker.

Unless it's your username.
 
2014-02-16 08:23:37 AM

doglover: way south: doglover: Want to know what you can't do legally or even illegally in Tokyo, Japan?

Head of Japanese Restaurant chain is shot dead.

You can still do it illegally.
Their excessive cop presence helps to keep the plebs in line but only has a marginal effect on organized crime.

Actually the organized crime is a secondary police force. I saw a guy try to walk out of a 7-11 without paying once in Kabukicho. They swarmed him. Every pimp, yak, and n'er do well in the gumi was on him. Like 40 people. They stripped him half naked hand beat him till police showed up. The cops were 100 yards away. Took 'em 4 minutes to get there. They knew what was what.




That can be hit or miss tho.
At best its vigilantism, at worse its selective enforcement of law. In the end its still a criminal organization that's prone to flip on a community under the right circumstances.

The mobs in the US, during their heyday, had a similar effect of being good to the people but troublesome to the law. They needed the host community to turn a blind eye for them to keep operating, so they became a saving grace to many families in exchange for good pr.
Ultimately they were still criminals and encouraging corruption while committing acts of violence. Now that we have the drug war, there's a lot of money to be made by being violent farkwits who attack anyone on the slightest provocation.
There's no good to be found among organized criminals in the west these days.

One can only wonder if the yakuza will remain stable in the east, and no ones really got a leash on them.
 
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