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2014-02-15 04:35:20 PM  
The spin... IT. IS. TOOMUCH. SPIN.
 
2014-02-15 04:57:23 PM  
I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.
 
2014-02-15 05:08:17 PM  

clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.


doubtful. more likely he's blaming it on the bleeding heart libs.
 
2014-02-15 05:54:37 PM  
Objectivity, how the Fark does it work?
 
2014-02-15 05:56:10 PM  
Camping.
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2014-02-15 05:56:19 PM  
That article reads like someone's tumblr blog. .
 
2014-02-15 05:56:41 PM  
*drinks*
 
2014-02-15 05:58:28 PM  
Who wrote this crap article? Al Sharpton?
 
2014-02-15 05:58:33 PM  
funny how media assassination and overzealous prosecution without a shred of evidence can destroy a person financially.

did I say funny? i meant tragic.
 
2014-02-15 05:58:56 PM  
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Couldn't have happened to a nicer asshole.
 
2014-02-15 05:59:14 PM  
No, seriously. Guns are for pussies
 
2014-02-15 05:59:15 PM  
Get over it, butthurt author.
 
2014-02-15 06:00:11 PM  
*click*

 George Zimmerman, who once shot a young man in Florida just to watch him die...

and close.
 
2014-02-15 06:02:13 PM  
Wow, did the author of that article actually watch the trial and the evidence presented?

It amazes me how many people have no idea what the actual facts of the case are, and instead rely on overtly emotional notions based on ignorant Facebook slacktivism.
 
2014-02-15 06:02:50 PM  

Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies


Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
i74.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-15 06:02:58 PM  

Mattyb710: *click*

 George Zimmerman, who once shot a young man in Florida just to watch him die...

and close.


No kidding. Dude's a murderer, through and through, but that was one shiatty article.
 
2014-02-15 06:03:36 PM  

clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.


Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?
 
2014-02-15 06:03:53 PM  
I think the author was masturbating while they typed.
 
2014-02-15 06:04:11 PM  
Would someone please tell that blog site to hire some editors? Or at least make the bloggers who post there put their blogs before a beta reader? Or simply admit that they are, in fact, a blog site? While I agree that George Zimmerman is a waste of space, that story should have been listed as an editorial and not a story.
 
2014-02-15 06:04:18 PM  
I dont feel bad for Zimmerman, but that was a terrible article and subby should be ashamed.
 
2014-02-15 06:04:34 PM  

BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]


Please tell me you have leather chaps and a cowboy hat when you wear that, right?
 
2014-02-15 06:05:01 PM  
He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.
 
2014-02-15 06:05:19 PM  

lunging_man_ass: Wow, did the author of that article actually watch the trial and the evidence presented? It amazes me how many people have no idea what the actual facts of the case are, and instead rely on overtly emotional notions based on ignorant Facebook slacktivism.

Considering the fact that he thinks that it was a SYG case, and all the emotional but thirst, I would say no. That said, Zimmerman is an idiot, and should probably try to lay low more than he has been.
 
2014-02-15 06:05:45 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: funny how media assassination and overzealous prosecution without a shred of evidence can destroy a person financially.

did I say funny? i meant tragic.


it is also funny - i mean tragic - how a person's destruction by the media can begin with a simple and shocking error in judgement on their part

please, don't use the word "assassination" in conjunction with Zimmerman - he is not in a position to warrant the phrase, nor is he dead

he could have moved to bumfark wyoming and gotten a job - and privacy - others have done so
 
2014-02-15 06:05:46 PM  

lunging_man_ass: Wow, did the author of that article actually watch the trial and the evidence presented?

It amazes me how many people have no idea what the actual facts of the case are, and instead rely on overtly emotional notions based on ignorant Facebook slacktivism.


It was Raw story. It's the liberal version of Rush Limbaugh but less subtle.
 
2014-02-15 06:06:28 PM  

lunging_man_ass: Wow, did the author of that article actually watch the trial and the evidence presented?

It amazes me how many people have no idea don't care and are ignorant what the actual facts of the case are, and instead rely on overtly emotional notions based on ignorant Facebook slacktivism.


/FTFE
 
2014-02-15 06:06:40 PM  

hardinparamedic: BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]

Please tell me you have leather chaps and a cowboy hat when you wear that, right?


I just got it today, came as a package, so I don't. It was a great deal I could not pass up though, and I have always wants a SA revolver.
 
2014-02-15 06:06:43 PM  
I feel like going and finding an editor for RawStory, taking him and beating his head on the ground, then start pummeling him.

Because I know that there is no way in hell they would every try to stop me and it would be fun. Why? Because they are all a bunch of crackers.
 
2014-02-15 06:07:15 PM  

hardinparamedic: BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]

Please tell me you have leather chaps and a cowboy hat when you wear that, right?


Chaps and hat, probably.
Pants, probably not.
 
2014-02-15 06:07:15 PM  

GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?


Regardless of what caused him to shoot, he did follow a kid around with a gun and eventually shot him.
 
2014-02-15 06:07:17 PM  

GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?


From my own observations, about 75% of the black population. The other half have been victims of black on black crime and think Trayvon had it coming.
 
2014-02-15 06:07:20 PM  

gnosis301: No kidding. Dude's a murderer, through and through, but that was one shiatty article.


I bet I can tell who never read any of Trayvon's text messages.
 
2014-02-15 06:07:31 PM  

BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]


Nice. Here is my newest (bottom) pictured with one I fixed up about a year ago:

i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-15 06:08:18 PM  
Well, he better hope he wins that boxing match.
 
2014-02-15 06:08:31 PM  

parasol: The_Original_Roxtar: funny how media assassination and overzealous prosecution without a shred of evidence can destroy a person financially.

did I say funny? i meant tragic.

it is also funny - i mean tragic - how a person's destruction by the media can begin with a simple and shocking error in judgement on their part

please, don't use the word "assassination" in conjunction with Zimmerman - he is not in a position to warrant the phrase, nor is he dead

he could have moved to bumfark wyoming and gotten a job - and privacy - others have done so


I wonder if all the guy's AW'ing is because he's still scraping together $ to pay legal bills.
 
2014-02-15 06:08:37 PM  

leevis: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

From my own observations, about 75% of the black population. The other half have been victims of black on black crime and think Trayvon had it coming.


Also, about 100% of the liberal population things this is what happened.
 
2014-02-15 06:08:57 PM  

Mattyb710: *click*

 George Zimmerman, who once shot a young man in Florida just to watch him die...

and close.


Worst use of Folsom Prison Blues, EVER!
 
2014-02-15 06:09:08 PM  

brownribbon: BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]

Nice. Here is my newest (bottom) pictured with one I fixed up about a year ago:


Unless the M1 was non-functional, there is no use in "fixing it up"

/I like my beat up old Garand.
 
2014-02-15 06:09:16 PM  

BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.


Do you wear spurs and eat a ton of beans?
 
2014-02-15 06:09:22 PM  
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2014-02-15 06:09:53 PM  

BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.


I just got a Remington model 700 30-06 with a scope. I'd post a pic but I'm on mobile.

/Extra pussification slashies.
 
2014-02-15 06:09:56 PM  

Tourney3p0: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

Regardless of what caused him to shoot, he did follow a kid around with a gun and eventually shot him.


What's your point? You should be allowed to assault people who you think are following you?
 
2014-02-15 06:10:19 PM  

lunging_man_ass: Wow, did the author of that article actually watch the trial and the evidence presented?

It amazes me how many people have no idea what the actual facts of the case are, and instead rely on overtly emotional notions based on ignorant Facebook slacktivism.


Because members of the racebater brigade are morons. Martin fled and then came back and jumped Zimmerman. Martin initiated first physical contact. That's why Zimmerman's defense didn't involve Stand Your Ground at all - the case was easily made that it was straight self-defense. Further, the evidence("Creepy ass cracker!") shows that Martin's racism and prejudice against gays made him come back after he got home and jump Zimmerman in the first place.

But please, keep siding with Martin. It shows how little character is required of someone for you to hold them up as a martyr. No guilt like white guilt.
 
2014-02-15 06:10:24 PM  

brownribbon: BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]

Nice. Here is my newest (bottom) pictured with one I fixed up about a year ago:

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]


Those are some nice Garands! I hope to get one one day, along with an M1A carbine.
 
2014-02-15 06:10:29 PM  
That was some pretty professional reporting, no?
 
2014-02-15 06:10:42 PM  

duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


He got off pretty easy for shooting the President's son.
 
2014-02-15 06:11:09 PM  

Frank N Stein: brownribbon: BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]

Nice. Here is my newest (bottom) pictured with one I fixed up about a year ago:

Unless the M1 was non-functional, there is no use in "fixing it up"

/I like my beat up old Garand.


I replaced the beat up stock, re-parkerized some of the parts (butt plate, front swing swivel) replaced the op-rod spring, and gave it a trigger job. I use it for high power matches. The other is a backup.
 
2014-02-15 06:11:22 PM  

duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


GED forensic scientists.
 
2014-02-15 06:11:38 PM  

lunging_man_ass: Wow, did the author of that article actually watch the trial and the evidence presented?

It amazes me how many people have no idea what the actual facts of the case are, and instead rely on overtly emotional notions based on ignorant Facebook slacktivism.


it amazes me that, post trial and jury dismissal that people are still trying the case.
it is over and no more arguments, pro or con, matter

what matters is this  mr zimmerman appears to be unable to find a way to fade into the multitudes of americans coast to coast - this is, btw, something that ex-cons manage to do - that he wasn't convicted and still can't manage speaks more about the man than his actions that night.
 
2014-02-15 06:11:42 PM  

Tourney3p0: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

Regardless of what caused him to shoot, he did follow a kid around with a gun and eventually shot him.


Uh, no.

St. Skittles (that's what some of us call him) attacked Zimmerman.  He was knocking Zimmerman's head against the ground, and in case you didn't know, you can die of head injuries.  So in a sense St. Skittles was armed--with the pavement.

It was self-defense, plain and simple.

I might add that Skittles and watermelon juice (which is what he had, not iced tea) along with a third ingredient (I think it's cough syrup) are used to make a drug.  No, I haven't done it, but I read about it.

So St. Skittles wasn't the innocent little saint the media was portraying him as.
 
2014-02-15 06:12:25 PM  

GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?


Do people still believe that OJ Simpson killed people even though a criminal court didn't find him guilty?

/Wonder how much overlap there is between the OJ=Guilty and Zimmerman=Innocent crowds
 
2014-02-15 06:13:35 PM  
Was that an article with information, or is Fark just greenlighting some bozo calling himself "TBogg" ranting about his ill-informed opinions about the whole Zimmerman/Martin incident?

No matter which "side" you are on, this is just a stupid article.
 
2014-02-15 06:14:25 PM  
Awesome article.

/Next up: George "murderous rampage" Zimmerman, sues news outlet for writing the truth.

//Real media. real news. No spin.
 
2014-02-15 06:14:49 PM  
Can't he find a job as a live-in gun store mascot? People could have their pictures taken with him like some kind of vigilante Santa and everything.
 
2014-02-15 06:14:55 PM  

Miss Alexandra: Tourney3p0: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

Regardless of what caused him to shoot, he did follow a kid around with a gun and eventually shot him.

Uh, no.

St. Skittles (that's what some of us call him) attacked Zimmerman.  He was knocking Zimmerman's head against the ground, and in case you didn't know, you can die of head injuries.  So in a sense St. Skittles was armed--with the pavement.

It was self-defense, plain and simple.

I might add that Skittles and watermelon juice (which is what he had, not iced tea) along with a third ingredient (I think it's cough syrup) are used to make a drug.  No, I haven't done it, but I read about it.

So St. Skittles wasn't the innocent little saint the media was portraying him as.


Interesting. I'm not sure I've seen this particular species of troll. Do go on....
 
2014-02-15 06:15:23 PM  
Remember guys, if you're getting the shiat beat out of you by a black kid, just let him do his thing. Eventually he'll get tired and when you're in the hospital getting treatment for your injuries, take comfort in the fact it was statistically unlikely to have happened to you.

Just make sure your nurse brings you plenty of charts and graphs that you can snuggle with, provided you're conscious and physically able to snuggle after the assault.
 
2014-02-15 06:16:12 PM  

parasol: lunging_man_ass: Wow, did the author of that article actually watch the trial and the evidence presented?

It amazes me how many people have no idea what the actual facts of the case are, and instead rely on overtly emotional notions based on ignorant Facebook slacktivism.

it amazes me that, post trial and jury dismissal that people are still trying the case.
it is over and no more arguments, pro or con, matter

what matters is this  mr zimmerman appears to be unable to find a way to fade into the multitudes of americans coast to coast - this is, btw, something that ex-cons manage to do - that he wasn't convicted and still can't manage speaks more about the man than his actions that night.


Most ex cons aren't famous and hated by a large percentage of the country
 
2014-02-15 06:16:55 PM  

hardinparamedic: [jokesound.files.wordpress.com image 500x333]
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Couldn't have happened to a nicer asshole.


So for defending himself and trying to do his job he should lose his home and stay forever in the spotlight because the thug who attacked him happened to be black.

Meanwhile 10 innocent black teens were shot in Detroit this month and media can't even spare a second to remind us about the fact.
 
2014-02-15 06:16:56 PM  

parasol: The_Original_Roxtar: funny how media assassination and overzealous prosecution without a shred of evidence can destroy a person financially.

did I say funny? i meant tragic.

it is also funny - i mean tragic - how a person's destruction by the media can begin with a simple and shocking error in judgement on their part

please, don't use the word "assassination" in conjunction with Zimmerman - he is not in a position to warrant the phrase, nor is he dead

he could have moved to bumfark wyoming and gotten a job - and privacy - others have done so


you're right... zimmy should have let skittles cave his skull in.
 
2014-02-15 06:16:59 PM  
parasol:what matters is this  mr zimmerman appears to be unable to find a way to fade into the multitudes of americans coast to coast - this is, btw, something that ex-cons manage to do - that he wasn't convicted and still can't manage speaks more about the man than his actions that night.

I don't know about that myself. It seems the media is more obsessed with him out of white guilt and the fact that they can <i>make</i> a story out of him than anything else.

Look, I would call myself a liberal, but this is all insane if you ask me. People can't let go of the fact that someone can attempt to beat someone to death and it's legal to use deadly force to protect yourself. Everyone outside the case is injecting this insane racism into the case that I haven't ever been able to really see.

It seems that people expect racism, so it must be there.
 
2014-02-15 06:17:10 PM  

BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]


I used to have one like that.

It came with a little badge and a little hat.
 
2014-02-15 06:17:18 PM  

blindpreacher: lunging_man_ass: Wow, did the author of that article actually watch the trial and the evidence presented?

It amazes me how many people have no idea what the actual facts of the case are, and instead rely on overtly emotional notions based on ignorant Facebook slacktivism.

Because members of the racebater brigade are morons. Martin fled and then came back and jumped Zimmerman. Martin initiated first physical contact. That's why Zimmerman's defense didn't involve Stand Your Ground at all - the case was easily made that it was straight self-defense. Further, the evidence("Creepy ass cracker!") shows that Martin's racism and prejudice against gays made him come back after he got home and jump Zimmerman in the first place.

But please, keep siding with Martin. It shows how little character is required of someone for you to hold them up as a martyr. No guilt like white guilt.


Writing rational thoughts here is a waste of electrons.  Don't bother, this is Fark.  Trayvon was a Straight-A's angel, totally no purple drank in his system at all, and George Zimmerman is a closet Klansman.

PURPLE DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!
 
2014-02-15 06:17:19 PM  
The author is bad and should feel bad.
 
2014-02-15 06:17:52 PM  

BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]


Where do you live, Deadwood?
 
2014-02-15 06:18:06 PM  
Zimmerman should open up a KFC and live there.
 
2014-02-15 06:18:07 PM  

EngineerAU: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

Do people still believe that OJ Simpson killed people even though a criminal court didn't find him guilty?

/Wonder how much overlap there is between the OJ=Guilty and Zimmerman=Innocent crowds


Your expressed thoughts, they are in the right general direction.  Continue the progression.
 
2014-02-15 06:19:28 PM  

doglover: hardinparamedic: [jokesound.files.wordpress.com image 500x333]
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Couldn't have happened to a nicer asshole.

So for defending himself and trying to do his job he should lose his home and stay forever in the spotlight because the thug who attacked him happened to be black.

Meanwhile 10 innocent black teens were shot in Detroit this month and media can't even spare a second to remind us about the fact.


10?  You're off by a factor of ten
 
2014-02-15 06:20:05 PM  

P. Yorck: Can't he find a job as a live-in gun store mascot? People could have their pictures taken with him like some kind of vigilante Santa and everything.


Why isn't he signing autographs at a gun show? Is it possible he's only a hero to those who can maintain their anonymity?
 
2014-02-15 06:20:23 PM  

lunging_man_ass: It seems that people expect racism, so it must be there.


www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-02-15 06:21:25 PM  
Did anybody else see where he wasn't going to comment because of an impending civil rights case?
I didn't think that the Feds had enough for a civil rights case against the Zimmzamm. And the truth is; they probably don't.


/ Too many of the plebs want his blood.
 
2014-02-15 06:23:12 PM  

duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


Same place they get the idea that a man driven from his home gets a Cool tag.
 
2014-02-15 06:23:47 PM  
How much libel can TBogg cram into 1 article?
 
2014-02-15 06:24:01 PM  

elysive: parasol: The_Original_Roxtar: funny how media assassination and overzealous prosecution without a shred of evidence can destroy a person financially.

did I say funny? i meant tragic.

it is also funny - i mean tragic - how a person's destruction by the media can begin with a simple and shocking error in judgement on their part

please, don't use the word "assassination" in conjunction with Zimmerman - he is not in a position to warrant the phrase, nor is he dead

he could have moved to bumfark wyoming and gotten a job - and privacy - others have done so

I wonder if all the guy's AW'ing is because he's still scraping together $ to pay legal bills.


since the state of florida agreed to pay the legal fees for the case he won, it must have been a hell of an expensive divorce between two people with nothing to claim but two dogs and &6k in declared shared debt.
 
2014-02-15 06:24:18 PM  

BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.


Nice! Do you have spurs for your sneakers to complete the outfit, deputy?
 
2014-02-15 06:28:38 PM  
Maybe he will have an epiphany and will realize he was wrong in the way he handled and finished the situation, become a spokesperson for rational gun control, start a charity for those who are victims of needless gun violence (including Martin's parents), and become a hero of the left.

Nah. He'll just continue to associate himself with rednecks and racists who see him as their idol.
 
2014-02-15 06:29:26 PM  

BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.


Very nice, I have an old model blackhawk in 357 that I love. Pre transfer bar and it shoots like a dream.
 
2014-02-15 06:30:14 PM  

Miss Alexandra: Tourney3p0: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

Regardless of what caused him to shoot, he did follow a kid around with a gun and eventually shot him.

Uh, no.

St. Skittles (that's what some of us call him) attacked Zimmerman.  He was knocking Zimmerman's head against the ground, and in case you didn't know, you can die of head injuries.  So in a sense St. Skittles was armed--with the pavement.

It was self-defense, plain and simple.

I might add that Skittles and watermelon juice (which is what he had, not iced tea) along with a third ingredient (I think it's cough syrup) are used to make a drug.  No, I haven't done it, but I read about it.

So St. Skittles wasn't the innocent little saint the media was portraying him as.


please tell me this is a parody fark account
 
2014-02-15 06:31:42 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: How much libel can TBogg cram into 1 article?


A few more articles like that and Zimmermans image will be completely rehabilitated.
 
2014-02-15 06:32:21 PM  

Electrify: Maybe he will have an epiphany and will realize he was wrong in the way he handled and finished the situation, become a spokesperson for rational gun control, start a charity for those who are victims of needless gun violence (including Martin's parents), and become a hero of the left.

Nah. He'll just continue to associate himself with rednecks and racists who see him as their idol.


How many Che shirts do you own?
 
2014-02-15 06:32:46 PM  
BadReligion:Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.

Beaut. Those Ruger Blackhawks are sweet. Reminds me of my father's.

Someday....
 
2014-02-15 06:35:14 PM  
Should be noted that TBogg has never claimed to be a journalist, but rather a satirical (and openly partisan) blogger.
 
2014-02-15 06:35:35 PM  

leevis: The other half have been victims of black on black crime and think Trayvon had it coming.


Meaningless. Most victims are victimized by people of similar ethnic background in the U.S. That's because people tend to move around in a relatively small and relatively homogenous area when others like them live too.
 
2014-02-15 06:36:07 PM  

MugzyBrown: parasol: lunging_man_ass: Wow, did the author of that article actually watch the trial and the evidence presented?

It amazes me how many people have no idea what the actual facts of the case are, and instead rely on overtly emotional notions based on ignorant Facebook slacktivism.

it amazes me that, post trial and jury dismissal that people are still trying the case.
it is over and no more arguments, pro or con, matter

what matters is this  mr zimmerman appears to be unable to find a way to fade into the multitudes of americans coast to coast - this is, btw, something that ex-cons manage to do - that he wasn't convicted and still can't manage speaks more about the man than his actions that night.

Most ex cons aren't famous and hated by a large percentage of the country


i note that the not-ex-con under discussion isn't even hated by a large percentage of the posters to this thread......cry me a river....there was a shooting....he is free, afterwards.
Freedom in this country has a long history of "doing X and reinventing self elsewhere"

i'd pay his court costs for a legal name change just to stop the time the press spends on him.
 
2014-02-15 06:36:12 PM  
Electrify

He'll just continue to associate himself with rednecks and racists who see him as their idol.

Such a strange comment. A brown guy shot a black guy who was racist and homophobic, but he's an idol to racists? Which racists? Brown supremacists? Anti-black racists? Homosexual racists? The large segment of homosexual brown people that hate black people? Whuh?
 
2014-02-15 06:36:21 PM  

brownribbon: BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]

Nice. Here is my newest (bottom) pictured with one I fixed up about a year ago:

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]


That weapon is a goddamn beauty.

I own an M1 Carbine. Haven't shot it in a few years because 30 carbine costs an arm and a leg locally.
 
2014-02-15 06:37:34 PM  

Frank N Stein: Electrify: Maybe he will have an epiphany and will realize he was wrong in the way he handled and finished the situation, become a spokesperson for rational gun control, start a charity for those who are victims of needless gun violence (including Martin's parents), and become a hero of the left.

Nah. He'll just continue to associate himself with rednecks and racists who see him as their idol.

How many Che shirts do you own?


Che probably would have shot Trayvon too, he hated blacks.
 
2014-02-15 06:37:36 PM  
Saint Skittles...


Homer slowly backs into hedge.
 
2014-02-15 06:38:34 PM  
Wow, was I magically transported to Camelot overnight? Cuz there sure is a lot of White Knighting in this thread.
 
2014-02-15 06:39:05 PM  

lunging_man_ass: People can't let go of the fact that someone can attempt to beat someone to death and it's legal to use deadly force to protect yourself.


But Trayvon wasn't carrying. Probably would have prepped for stalkers with a domestic violence record if he knew they were in the neighborhood.
 
2014-02-15 06:39:52 PM  

Old enough to know better: Wow, was I magically transported to Camelot overnight? Cuz there sure is a lot of White Knighting in this thread.


Calling out lies is now white knighting.
 
2014-02-15 06:39:52 PM  
"he   stalking and murdering a teenager for being black"


awesome lead .......
 
2014-02-15 06:41:02 PM  

Vitamin Pb: leevis: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

From my own observations, about 75% of the black population. The other half have been victims of black on black crime and think Trayvon had it coming.

Also, about 100% of the liberal population things this is what happened.


Considering Zimmerman himself stated under oath that he followed Trayvon and ended up shooting him, how else would you describe it?  He didn't have to follow the kid, but he chose to do so, thus "hunt", and since Zimmerman is not law enforcement, any action taken against Trayvon was vigilantism.  Since he did in fact kill Trayvon, it would be accurate to describe it as a "vigilante hunt & kill."  If you or Zimmerman have an issue with that description, too f*cking bad.  A whole lot of people have an issue with Zimmerman not letting the police do their job.
 
2014-02-15 06:41:20 PM  

lunging_man_ass: parasol:what matters is this  mr zimmerman appears to be unable to find a way to fade into the multitudes of americans coast to coast - this is, btw, something that ex-cons manage to do - that he wasn't convicted and still can't manage speaks more about the man than his actions that night.

I don't know about that myself. It seems the media is more obsessed with him out of white guilt and the fact that they can <i>make</i> a story out of him than anything else.

Look, I would call myself a liberal, but this is all insane if you ask me. People can't let go of the fact that someone can attempt to beat someone to death and it's legal to use deadly force to protect yourself. Everyone outside the case is injecting this insane racism into the case that I haven't ever been able to really see.

It seems that people expect racism, so it must be there.


I am wondering who deserves a side-ways glance then - the submitter or the moderator......
no more click/posts from here on this case
 
2014-02-15 06:41:40 PM  
The best explanation I have heard as to why Zimmerman should be in jail:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANl6tmGGlVU&feature=youtube_gdata_pla ye r
 
2014-02-15 06:42:12 PM  

Miss Alexandra: Uh, no.

St. Skittles (that's what some of us call him) attacked Zimmerman.  He was knocking Zimmerman's head against the ground, and in case you didn't know, you can die of head injuries.  So in a sense St. Skittles was armed--with the pavement.


No, no one calls him that. Even people who legitimately believe that it was self-defense and that the entire situation was provoked by Martin don't call him that.

Maybe you're confusing us with your friends at Stormfront.

Miss Alexandra: I might add that Skittles and watermelon juice (which is what he had, not iced tea) along with a third ingredient (I think it's cough syrup) are used to make a drug.  No, I haven't done it, but I read about it.

So St. Skittles wasn't the innocent little saint the media was portraying him as.


You might add that, but you'd demonstrate you have shiat-all idea what you're talking about. "Grape Drank" is a grain alcohol, grape juice or kool-aid, and codeine cough syrup OR promethazine (phenergan)

It's not Arizona Iced Tea and skittles, you racist flat earther moron.
 
2014-02-15 06:42:44 PM  

AngryDragon: doglover: hardinparamedic: [jokesound.files.wordpress.com image 500x333]
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Couldn't have happened to a nicer asshole.

So for defending himself and trying to do his job he should lose his home and stay forever in the spotlight because the thug who attacked him happened to be black.

Meanwhile 10 innocent black teens were shot in Detroit this month and media can't even spare a second to remind us about the fact.

10?  You're off by a factor of ten


Zimmerman was raked over the coals multiple times by a legal system that's set up to be EXTREMELY unfair to people accused of a crime.

I should know. I've been arrested and detained for more than three months on zero evidence, zero witnesses, and no clear explanation of what I was alleged to have done. In other words, in America if you follow the rules and don't do anything THEY CAN STILL ARREST YOU FOR OVER 100 DAYS! That is the system you live in. America's laws are EVIL and it's horribly difficult to actually defend yourself against charges.

Now, Zimmerman was found next to a dead body holding the gun that shot the boy and told the police he did it ON CAMERA. Remember, this is the system were you can be arrested for doing nothing, held for 100 days in the hopes you do something, then released without even seeing a judge because if you get a trial you can counter-sue for wrongful arrest. The system where being a poor black man in Texas can land you on DEATH ROW. Zimmerman shot a 17 year old boy to death and admitted it on camera. Special federal prosecutors came out of their castles of bones to be his undoing with all the unfair legal powers that would entail encouraged by a public made frothy with falsified evidence from the incident. And they STILL couldn't make a murder charge stick.

Moral of the story: Whatever happened that night, the end result was that not even federal prosecutes with more than a year to prepare a case couldn't convince six women that a portly man was the bad guy. Clearly the boy did something wrong. Zimmerman's life was ruined already, but it was a legal shooting. It's time for the media to move on to actual news.
 
2014-02-15 06:44:16 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-15 06:44:38 PM  

Frank N Stein: Old enough to know better: Wow, was I magically transported to Camelot overnight? Cuz there sure is a lot of White Knighting in this thread.

Calling out lies is now white knighting.


Questioning the premise on which to insert hatred towards an individual or group of individuals on Fark is white knighting. You are either part of the mob mentality or you want George Zimmerman (or whoever we're hating at the time) to sleep with you. There are no gray areas.
 
2014-02-15 06:45:45 PM  
FTFA: George Zimmerman, who once shot a young man in Florida just to watch him die

taijitumartini.files.wordpress.com


Approves.
 
2014-02-15 06:45:47 PM  
Tough shiat.

He still has a better chance at a brighter tomorrow than Trayvon Martin does.
 
2014-02-15 06:45:50 PM  

I created this alt just for this thread: Vitamin Pb: leevis: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

From my own observations, about 75% of the black population. The other half have been victims of black on black crime and think Trayvon had it coming.

Also, about 100% of the liberal population things this is what happened.

Considering Zimmerman himself stated under oath that he followed Trayvon and ended up shooting him, how else would you describe it?  He didn't have to follow the kid, but he chose to do so, thus "hunt", and since Zimmerman is not law enforcement, any action taken against Trayvon was vigilantism.  Since he did in fact kill Trayvon, it would be accurate to describe it as a "vigilante hunt & kill."  If you or Zimmerman have an issue with that description, too f*cking bad.  A whole lot of people have an issue with Zimmerman not letting the police do their job.


I'm looking forward to reading your obituary if you every have somebody smash your head into the ground repeatedly.

Until then, keep up the good trolling, my friend.
 
2014-02-15 06:46:31 PM  

Miss Alexandra: Tourney3p0: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

Regardless of what caused him to shoot, he did follow a kid around with a gun and eventually shot him.

Uh, no.

St. Skittles (that's what some of us call him) attacked Zimmerman.  He was knocking Zimmerman's head against the ground, and in case you didn't know, you can die of head injuries.  So in a sense St. Skittles was armed--with the pavement.

It was self-defense, plain and simple.

I might add that Skittles and watermelon juice (which is what he had, not iced tea) along with a third ingredient (I think it's cough syrup) are used to make a drug.  No, I haven't done it, but I read about it.

So St. Skittles wasn't the innocent little saint the media was portraying him as.


9/10!

I'd give you 9/11 but there's no truth in it!
 
2014-02-15 06:47:37 PM  

Skarekrough: Tough shiat.

He still has a better chance at a brighter tomorrow than Trayvon Martin does.


Yeah but ZimZam will never taste the rainbow like TrayTray
 
2014-02-15 06:48:10 PM  

doglover: Clearly the boy did something wrong. Zimmerman's life was ruined already, but it was a legal shooting.


Don't care. He's in this situation because of his own doing. He's like the guy who smoked for sixty years and is surprised he has lung cancer.

Yes. It was a legal shooting. Yes, it was self defense at the point he shot him. We get that.

I don't feel sorry for him. He's an idiot.
 
2014-02-15 06:49:29 PM  

doglover: hardinparamedic: [jokesound.files.wordpress.com image 500x333]
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Couldn't have happened to a nicer asshole.

So for defending himself and trying to do his job he should lose his home and stay forever in the spotlight because the thug who attacked him happened to be black.

Meanwhile 10 innocent black teens were shot in Detroit this month and media can't even spare a second to remind us about the fact.


It's the police's job to investigate suspicious and potentially criminal activity.  It's the Neighborhood Watch's job to contact the police.  Once Zimmerman did his job, i.e. call the cops, he should have gotten the fark out of there and let the police do theirs.  Regardless of what Martin did or did not do, if Zimmerman had stuck with just "trying to do his job" none of us would have heard of either one of these people.
 
2014-02-15 06:49:49 PM  

hardinparamedic: doglover: Clearly the boy did something wrong. Zimmerman's life was ruined already, but it was a legal shooting.

Don't care. He's in this situation because of his own doing. He's like the guy who smoked for sixty years and is surprised he has lung cancer.

Yes. It was a legal shooting. Yes, it was self defense at the point he shot him. We get that.

I don't feel sorry for him. He's an idiot.


not to mention, how much of a bad-ass Gunsmateer can you be if you can't use a gun non-lethally. What, ya'll just empty the clip into the heart with your eyes closed? WTF?
 
2014-02-15 06:51:58 PM  

sobriquet by any other name: hardinparamedic: doglover: Clearly the boy did something wrong. Zimmerman's life was ruined already, but it was a legal shooting.

Don't care. He's in this situation because of his own doing. He's like the guy who smoked for sixty years and is surprised he has lung cancer.

Yes. It was a legal shooting. Yes, it was self defense at the point he shot him. We get that.

I don't feel sorry for him. He's an idiot.

not to mention, how much of a bad-ass Gunsmateer can you be if you can't use a gun non-lethally. What, ya'll just empty the clip into the heart with your eyes closed? WTF?


Not everybody is the Lone Ranger. Guns typically aren't used to shoot other guns out of the hands of people. They're used to decide fights.
 
2014-02-15 06:53:25 PM  

leevis: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

From my own observations, about 75% of the black population. The other half have been victims of black on black crime and think Trayvon had it coming.


Not sure if serious...or if you've got a future creating polling results for Fox News.
 
2014-02-15 06:53:28 PM  
Most Zimmerman defenders who own guns probably have them specifically for defending themselves in situations like when some strange man follows them in his car and gets out, armed, to confront them for no reason.

/Can't wait for all the posts saying I don't know what I'm talking about, he was found innocent, blah, blah, blah.
 
2014-02-15 06:54:28 PM  

duffblue: Tourney3p0: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

Regardless of what caused him to shoot, he did follow a kid around with a gun and eventually shot him.

What's your point? You should be allowed to assault people who you think are following you?


So... you don't think you should be allowed to defend yourself against a "creepy" armed guy following you around your neighborhood?
 
2014-02-15 06:54:29 PM  

Vitamin Pb: I created this alt just for this thread: Vitamin Pb: leevis: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

From my own observations, about 75% of the black population. The other half have been victims of black on black crime and think Trayvon had it coming.

Also, about 100% of the liberal population things this is what happened.

Considering Zimmerman himself stated under oath that he followed Trayvon and ended up shooting him, how else would you describe it?  He didn't have to follow the kid, but he chose to do so, thus "hunt", and since Zimmerman is not law enforcement, any action taken against Trayvon was vigilantism.  Since he did in fact kill Trayvon, it would be accurate to describe it as a "vigilante hunt & kill."  If you or Zimmerman have an issue with that description, too f*cking bad.  A whole lot of people have an issue with Zimmerman not letting the police do their job.

I'm looking forward to reading your obituary if you every have somebody smash your head into the ground repeatedly.

Until then, keep up the good trolling, my friend.


So because Martin attacked him that justified Zimmerman following him in the first place and not letting the police do their job?  That's some mighty fine circular logic there, Lou.
 
2014-02-15 06:54:35 PM  

iheartscotch: Did anybody else see where he wasn't going to comment because of an impending civil rights case?
I didn't think that the Feds had enough for a civil rights case against the Zimmzamm. And the truth is; they probably don't.


/ Too many of the plebs want his blood.


fwiw (and i'm posting more than intended)

ianal but i can see how this case/cases (not the persons and the fiscal aftermath) are part of the growth of law. some cases are cited later and help set precedence or repair bad law

if the feds do/don't have the goods for a case, the outcome will still be useful - maybe when this thread gets past the knee-jerk posters someone interested in where this goes as legal history might chime in....

bbqing just now and wait what this thread offers sunday am - hidden jewels or broken glass
 
2014-02-15 06:54:41 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: parasol: The_Original_Roxtar: funny how media assassination and overzealous prosecution without a shred of evidence can destroy a person financially.

did I say funny? i meant tragic.

it is also funny - i mean tragic - how a person's destruction by the media can begin with a simple and shocking error in judgement on their part

please, don't use the word "assassination" in conjunction with Zimmerman - he is not in a position to warrant the phrase, nor is he dead

he could have moved to bumfark wyoming and gotten a job - and privacy - others have done so

you're right... zimmy should have let skittles cave his skull in.


Or he could have stayed in his damn truck.
 
2014-02-15 06:55:29 PM  

Facetious_Speciest: Electrify

He'll just continue to associate himself with rednecks and racists who see him as their idol.

Such a strange comment. A brown guy shot a black guy who was racist and homophobic, but he's an idol to racists? Which racists? Brown supremacists? Anti-black racists? Homosexual racists? The large segment of homosexual brown people that hate black people? Whuh?


Well, there's always this one

www.motherjones.com
 
2014-02-15 06:56:04 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: doglover: hardinparamedic: [jokesound.files.wordpress.com image 500x333]
[i51.tinypic.com image 300x225]

[bbsimg.ngfiles.com image 480x365]

[denver.mylittlefacewhen.com image 850x475]

[static.fjcdn.com image 493x429]

Couldn't have happened to a nicer asshole.

So for defending himself and trying to do his job he should lose his home and stay forever in the spotlight because the thug who attacked him happened to be black.

Meanwhile 10 innocent black teens were shot in Detroit this month and media can't even spare a second to remind us about the fact.

It's the police's job to investigate suspicious and potentially criminal activity.  It's the Neighborhood Watch's job to contact the police.  Once Zimmerman did his job, i.e. call the cops, he should have gotten the fark out of there and let the police do theirs.  Regardless of what Martin did or did not do, if Zimmerman had stuck with just "trying to do his job" none of us would have heard of either one of these people.


Some people like to take more responsibly for their neighborhoods. If people living in bad inner city neighborhoods got more involved, they would probably improve
 
2014-02-15 06:56:09 PM  

Mattyb710: *click*

 George Zimmerman, who once shot a young man in Florida just to watch him die...

and close.


this. Am I supposed to call this journalism? Thats the discussion we should be having...not Zimmerman part XXXXXXXXXXV11111
 
2014-02-15 06:56:14 PM  

Weatherkiss: Not everybody is the Lone Ranger. Guns typically aren't used to shoot other guns out of the hands of people. They're used to decide fights.


No. They're used to protect the lives of others who cannot be protected in any other way.

Do you know what that means? That means, unless you have no other way of doing so, you avoid the fight in the first place.

There's a reason that MOST states won't extend civil protections towards someone who ends up having to shoot the other party - even in self defense - in a fight they started or escalated in the first place.

This whole debacle could have been avoided by him doing what any other person would have done. Not get out of his car and follow someone he thought was a threat to the neighborhood to begin with alone.

THAT is why I don't feel sorry for him. This was not a rape victim shooting her attacker. This was not someone who's awoken in the house in the middle of the night and has to shoot someone to defend his family. Not someone who was carjacked. Not someone who had no other choice in the matter.

Again. He's like the guy who got lung cancer after smoking for 60 years. Tragic, but WTF did you EXPECT to happen?
 
2014-02-15 06:57:02 PM  
Keep the course Mr Zim Zam, keep the course, wrap your lips around a shot gun barrel and leave a nice letter to tie it all up like a bow.
/that's mean, i shouldn't say things like that being a very close friend of mine ended his life, but this is where the zim zam is heading
 
2014-02-15 06:58:08 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-15 06:58:32 PM  

Miss Alexandra: I might add that Skittles and watermelon juice (which is what he had, not iced tea) along with a third ingredient (I think it's cough syrup) are used to make a drug. No, I haven't done it, but I read about it.


Was it written in crayon by a howler monkey, by chance?
 
2014-02-15 06:58:45 PM  

MugzyBrown: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: doglover: hardinparamedic: [jokesound.files.wordpress.com image 500x333]
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[bbsimg.ngfiles.com image 480x365]

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Couldn't have happened to a nicer asshole.

So for defending himself and trying to do his job he should lose his home and stay forever in the spotlight because the thug who attacked him happened to be black.

Meanwhile 10 innocent black teens were shot in Detroit this month and media can't even spare a second to remind us about the fact.

It's the police's job to investigate suspicious and potentially criminal activity.  It's the Neighborhood Watch's job to contact the police.  Once Zimmerman did his job, i.e. call the cops, he should have gotten the fark out of there and let the police do theirs.  Regardless of what Martin did or did not do, if Zimmerman had stuck with just "trying to do his job" none of us would have heard of either one of these people.

Some people like to take more responsibly for their neighborhoods. If people living in bad inner city neighborhoods got more involved, they would probably improve there would be a lot more dead teenagers.


FTFY
 
2014-02-15 06:58:51 PM  
It's crazy how many people treat Raw Story as if it's journalism.

That being said I shed no tears for George.
 
2014-02-15 06:58:58 PM  

markb289: The_Original_Roxtar: parasol: The_Original_Roxtar: funny how media assassination and overzealous prosecution without a shred of evidence can destroy a person financially.

did I say funny? i meant tragic.

it is also funny - i mean tragic - how a person's destruction by the media can begin with a simple and shocking error in judgement on their part

please, don't use the word "assassination" in conjunction with Zimmerman - he is not in a position to warrant the phrase, nor is he dead

he could have moved to bumfark wyoming and gotten a job - and privacy - others have done so

you're right... zimmy should have let skittles cave his skull in.

Or he could have stayed in his damn truck.


==

But enough about MICHAEL DUNN...

/hey-o!
 
2014-02-15 06:59:37 PM  
"STAND YOUR GROUND" HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH ZIMMERMAN/TRAYVONN!!


NEVER DID.



GET THAT OUT OF YOUR STUPID GODDAMNED MORONIC HEADS NOW.
 
2014-02-15 07:00:13 PM  

Geoff Peterson: Am I supposed to call this journalism? Thats the discussion we should be having


Raw Story bloggers aren't in any way supposed to be non-partisan journalist/stenographers.  That's a pretty short discussion.
 
2014-02-15 07:00:52 PM  

craigdamage: "STAND YOUR GROUND" HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH ZIMMERMAN/TRAYVONN!!


In reality, the defense deliberately avoided a SYG defense plea because they thought they'd lose if they tried it.
 
2014-02-15 07:01:08 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: MugzyBrown: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: doglover: hardinparamedic: [jokesound.files.wordpress.com image 500x333]
[i51.tinypic.com image 300x225]

[bbsimg.ngfiles.com image 480x365]

[denver.mylittlefacewhen.com image 850x475]

[static.fjcdn.com image 493x429]

Couldn't have happened to a nicer asshole.

So for defending himself and trying to do his job he should lose his home and stay forever in the spotlight because the thug who attacked him happened to be black.

Meanwhile 10 innocent black teens were shot in Detroit this month and media can't even spare a second to remind us about the fact.

It's the police's job to investigate suspicious and potentially criminal activity.  It's the Neighborhood Watch's job to contact the police.  Once Zimmerman did his job, i.e. call the cops, he should have gotten the fark out of there and let the police do theirs.  Regardless of what Martin did or did not do, if Zimmerman had stuck with just "trying to do his job" none of us would have heard of either one of these people.

Some people like to take more responsibly for their neighborhoods. If people living in bad inner city neighborhoods got more involved, they would probably improve there would be a lot more dead teenagers.

FTFY


I grew up in the city with active an drug corner literally across the street. My parents shined the light on them and didn't back down. They eventually move on. criminals don't like the spotlight.
 
2014-02-15 07:01:58 PM  

hardinparamedic: Weatherkiss: Not everybody is the Lone Ranger. Guns typically aren't used to shoot other guns out of the hands of people. They're used to decide fights.

No. They're used to protect the lives of others who cannot be protected in any other way.

Do you know what that means? That means, unless you have no other way of doing so, you avoid the fight in the first place.


Sure, you avoid the fight in the first place. Zimmerman was an asshole. I don't feel sorry for him. He should have stayed in his truck and let the police do their own thing. There are a lot of variables in the story, such as just how reliant the police in his area were (if I recall there were a string of break-ins in the area). But the core of the principle is he should have stayed back and let the police do their thing.

My point was that guns are there to decide fights. The person using the gun should avoid a fight by any means necessary, and should only use their firearm as a last ditch effort.

But I meant what I said quite literally. Guns are built to decide fights. Trayvon used his fists, Zimmerman used his gun. He could have done a number of things to avoid the situation. But he used the gun for what it was designed for -- destroying whatever is in front of the barrel.
 
2014-02-15 07:02:38 PM  

Geoff Peterson: Mattyb710: *click*

 George Zimmerman, who once shot a young man in Florida just to watch him die...

and close.

this. Am I supposed to call this journalism? Thats the discussion we should be having...not Zimmerman part XXXXXXXXXXV11111


Some of us call it a musical allusion. But that's just some of us.

upload.wikimedia.org

Do you know who else is a long time Zimmerman?
 
2014-02-15 07:03:52 PM  
Michael Dunn found guilty of 4 of 5 counts

a.abcnews.com

mistrial on murder 1
 
2014-02-15 07:04:06 PM  

the8re: Objectivity, how the Fark does it work?


He left his home, armed, chased down, shot and killed a young man who had done nothing more than walk through his yard.

Fark objectivity. He's human garbage.
 
2014-02-15 07:04:29 PM  

lunging_man_ass: Wow, did the author of that article actually watch the trial and the evidence presented?

It amazes me how many people have no idea what the actual facts of the case are, and instead rely on overtly emotional notions based on ignorant Facebook slacktivism.


It must be rough being the only person who *really* understands what went down that night.

The pressure of having to explain over and over again to *everyone* would be enough to give a weaker man PTSD.
 
2014-02-15 07:04:32 PM  

Miss Alexandra: St. Skittles (that's what some of us call him) attacked Zimmerman.


It was never proven who attacked first.

But, if you look at how the people involved were acting just prior to the incident, you can make a pretty good guess. One was running away, trying to avoid conflict. The other one was chasing. Gee, I wonder which was the aggressor.

He was knocking Zimmerman's head against the ground, and in case you didn't know, you can die of head injuries.

So, how, exactly, would you suggest an unarmed kid defend himself against a guy armed with a gun?

If you think about it, there are only two options (well, three. If you can out-run a bullet, you can try running away). 1) you can take the gun away- which is what Zimmerman says Trayvon tried to do- or 2) you can knock them out so they can't shoot you- say by hitting their head on the ground, which Trayvon also tried.

It was self-defense, plain and simple.

Exactly- Trayvon was trying to defend himself from a "creepy" armed guy who had been following him around.
 
2014-02-15 07:04:56 PM  

hardinparamedic: craigdamage: "STAND YOUR GROUND" HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH ZIMMERMAN/TRAYVONN!!

In reality, the defense deliberately avoided a SYG defense plea because they thought they'd lose if they tried it.


Well duh....if you're already lying on the ground you're not really "STANDING" anywhere, amirite?
 
2014-02-15 07:05:16 PM  

BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]


The holster is overkill.

Sweet pistol, though.
 
2014-02-15 07:07:15 PM  

cretinbob: Michael Dunn found guilty of 4 of 5 counts


Well these things happen, you know.
 
2014-02-15 07:07:51 PM  

hardinparamedic: BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]

Please tell me you have leather chaps and a cowboy hat when you wear that, right?


ASSLESS leather chaps
 
2014-02-15 07:08:05 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: parasol: The_Original_Roxtar: funny how media assassination and overzealous prosecution without a shred of evidence can destroy a person financially.

did I say funny? i meant tragic.

it is also funny - i mean tragic - how a person's destruction by the media can begin with a simple and shocking error in judgement on their part

please, don't use the word "assassination" in conjunction with Zimmerman - he is not in a position to warrant the phrase, nor is he dead

he could have moved to bumfark wyoming and gotten a job - and privacy - others have done so

you're right... zimmy should have let skittles cave his skull in.


No. "Zimmy" should have minded his own damn business and not followed Trayvon around the neighborhood.
 
2014-02-15 07:08:54 PM  
So now he's wandering the streets?

Not sure if that's an improvement.
 
2014-02-15 07:09:47 PM  
which works out best
is it

one

two

or

three

inquiring minds want to know
 
2014-02-15 07:09:49 PM  

GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?


Of course it happened.  Sometimes it is like the guy in the fail video kicking the soccer ball into the wall and it bounces back and hits his face, though.

Before Trayvon went to go back and hunt Zimmer-thecracker-man, he should have determined if his victim was armed.
 
2014-02-15 07:09:52 PM  
i232.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-15 07:09:56 PM  
This is a case of "when two assholes meet" one got his ass kicked and the other got shot.

I don't believe Zim broke the law; I also believe you should be able to concealed carry under regulation; I also don't think people should be playing the roll of publicly armed security unless they can deescalate a situation or at least subdue someone like a pro before ultimately resorting to lethal force.

Zimmerman was a pussy and it got someone killed.
 
2014-02-15 07:10:07 PM  

cretinbob: mistrial on murder 1


AHHHHHHH You got that from CNN, didn't you LOL

They've changed it back from mistrial to "further deliberations."
 
2014-02-15 07:11:21 PM  

gravy chugging cretin.: ASSLESS leather chaps


Aren't all chaps assless? Or they would be just another kind of pants.
 
2014-02-15 07:11:27 PM  
scholarsandrogues.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-15 07:11:31 PM  

hardinparamedic: Weatherkiss: Not everybody is the Lone Ranger. Guns typically aren't used to shoot other guns out of the hands of people. They're used to decide fights.

No. They're used to protect the lives of others who cannot be protected in any other way.

Do you know what that means? That means, unless you have no other way of doing so, you avoid the fight in the first place.

There's a reason that MOST states won't extend civil protections towards someone who ends up having to shoot the other party - even in self defense - in a fight they started or escalated in the first place.

This whole debacle could have been avoided by him doing what any other person would have done. Not get out of his car and follow someone he thought was a threat to the neighborhood to begin with alone.

THAT is why I don't feel sorry for him. This was not a rape victim shooting her attacker. This was not someone who's awoken in the house in the middle of the night and has to shoot someone to defend his family. Not someone who was carjacked. Not someone who had no other choice in the matter.

Again. He's like the guy who got lung cancer after smoking for 60 years. Tragic, but WTF did you EXPECT to happen?


I see what you're saying and I agree; you shouldn't shoot someone unless you have no other choice. I agree that, before the altercation, the zimmzamm made some pretty shiatty choices. I even agree that, had cooler minds prevailed, this entire situation might have been avoided.

The thing I've found to be the most telling about this case is how politicized it got. How everybody and their dog were howling , "Racism!", "He stalked that poor child!" and similar things.

/ I feel that, if the media hadn't picked up on it, we would have never heard a peep about it
 
2014-02-15 07:12:59 PM  
cretinbob:

What a strange looking white kid.
 
2014-02-15 07:13:20 PM  

BSABSVR: Miss Alexandra: I might add that Skittles and watermelon juice (which is what he had, not iced tea) along with a third ingredient (I think it's cough syrup) are used to make a drug. No, I haven't done it, but I read about it.

Was it written in crayon by a howler monkey, by chance?


No, it's pretty standard. It's called "sizyrup" now or something, but it's just Purple Drank. Take a little codine laced cough syrup and mix it up with soft drinks till you've got it sweet enough to your taste.

The problem with this angle is that yes, skittles and juice can be used to make it. But so can anything sugary. It's kind of like how you can smoke weed out of a pipe you carve into an apple. But is an apple paraphernalia? I don't think so.
 
2014-02-15 07:14:33 PM  

iheartscotch: I feel that, if the media hadn't picked up on it, we would have never heard a peep about it


That's pretty much the way every story works.  If you don't hear about it, you don't hear about it.
 
2014-02-15 07:14:45 PM  

Miss Alexandra: Tourney3p0: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

Regardless of what caused him to shoot, he did follow a kid around with a gun and eventually shot him.

Uh, no.

St. Skittles (that's what some of us call him) attacked Zimmerman.  He was knocking Zimmerman's head against the ground, and in case you didn't know, you can die of head injuries.  So in a sense St. Skittles was armed--with the pavement.

It was self-defense, plain and simple.

I might add that Skittles and watermelon juice (which is what he had, not iced tea) along with a third ingredient (I think it's cough syrup) are used to make a drug.  No, I haven't done it, but I read about it.

So St. Skittles wasn't the innocent little saint the media was portraying him as.


petenelson.com
 
2014-02-15 07:16:28 PM  

Frank N Stein: cretinbob:

What a strange looking white kid.


Reminds me of the brother on ....shiat//something Years...Wonder Years

cdn.buzznet.com
 
2014-02-15 07:16:57 PM  
Can't be. I keep reading in Fark threads about how he's going to make millions from gun endorsements, wrongful arrest and malicious prosecution lawsuits, and art sales.

Surely if he's telling people he's homeless, what he means is that he's staying at the Ritz-Carleton while he waits for his mansion to be built?

I ask because I once foolishly suggested that Zimmerman might come to regret his actions even though he was acquitted, and a number of Farkers had to take time out of their day to remind me that shooting unarmed black teenagers and milking the liberal overreaction was still the surest path to the American Dream.
 
2014-02-15 07:17:52 PM  

BSABSVR: iheartscotch: I feel that, if the media hadn't picked up on it, we would have never heard a peep about it

That's pretty much the way every story works.  If you don't hear about it, you don't hear about it.


See? That's my point! The media made this a thing. Florida being Florida; I'd bet that there wouldn't have been a trial without all of the media attention.
 
2014-02-15 07:19:28 PM  

Somacandra: cretinbob: mistrial on murder 1

AHHHHHHH You got that from CNN, didn't you LOL

They've changed it back from mistrial to "further deliberations."


Yeah, I din't hear what the judge was going to do.
I think it's pretty farked up that people are still jerking off over Zimmerman and I do't think there has been a single Dunn thread.

Maybe because Dunn really is a racist fark piece of shiat drunk and the other racist fark piece of shiat drunks can't defend him.
 
2014-02-15 07:20:08 PM  
www.taaz.com
 
2014-02-15 07:20:14 PM  
This guy is like the conservative's version of OJ, pretty funny to see all the conservative butthurt that people still think Zimmerman is a scumbag. Guess what guys, he's a scumbag.
 
2014-02-15 07:21:14 PM  

doglover: BSABSVR: Miss Alexandra: I might add that Skittles and watermelon juice (which is what he had, not iced tea) along with a third ingredient (I think it's cough syrup) are used to make a drug. No, I haven't done it, but I read about it.

Was it written in crayon by a howler monkey, by chance?

No, it's pretty standard. It's called "sizyrup" now or something, but it's just Purple Drank. Take a little codine laced cough syrup and mix it up with soft drinks till you've got it sweet enough to your taste.


 It's Sizzurp.  Or Purp.  Or Purple Drank.  That's not the point of my contention with Miss Alexandra.  I'm quite aware that mixing  codeine-laced cough syrup is a thing.  What is not a thing is requiring "watermelon juice" and/or skittles.  All you need, (as you mentioned) is something sweet to make the cough syrup no longer taste like hot buttered dog shiat.  Therefore whatever Miss Alexandra read, she either was incapable of understanding, or was written by a moron.  Incidentally, this also has no bearing on the Zimmerman/Martin shooting, as the "OMG he got skittles to make Purple Drank" conclusion is purely made up.
 
2014-02-15 07:22:36 PM  

iheartscotch: hardinparamedic: Weatherkiss: Not everybody is the Lone Ranger. Guns typically aren't used to shoot other guns out of the hands of people. They're used to decide fights.

No. They're used to protect the lives of others who cannot be protected in any other way.

Do you know what that means? That means, unless you have no other way of doing so, you avoid the fight in the first place.

There's a reason that MOST states won't extend civil protections towards someone who ends up having to shoot the other party - even in self defense - in a fight they started or escalated in the first place.

This whole debacle could have been avoided by him doing what any other person would have done. Not get out of his car and follow someone he thought was a threat to the neighborhood to begin with alone.

THAT is why I don't feel sorry for him. This was not a rape victim shooting her attacker. This was not someone who's awoken in the house in the middle of the night and has to shoot someone to defend his family. Not someone who was carjacked. Not someone who had no other choice in the matter.

Again. He's like the guy who got lung cancer after smoking for 60 years. Tragic, but WTF did you EXPECT to happen?

I see what you're saying and I agree; you shouldn't shoot someone unless you have no other choice. I agree that, before the altercation, the zimmzamm made some pretty shiatty choices. I even agree that, had cooler minds prevailed, this entire situation might have been avoided.

The thing I've found to be the most telling about this case is how politicized it got. How everybody and their dog were howling , "Racism!", "He stalked that poor child!" and similar things.

/ I feel that, if the media hadn't picked up on it, we would have never heard a peep about it


 with the knowledge there will be at least one dip-shiat "well, THEY got rich" reply

Martin's mother asked enough, and loud enough, for an investigation to garner media attention. fwiw, that particular municipality earned the stink eye by past behavior - maybe it was a slow news day. maybe the planets aligned just right to afford her what she wanted - which, recall, was a LOCAL investigation

as a mother i would have done the same - it is over now and the media needs to leave zimmerman alone to make what life the jury left him with
 
2014-02-15 07:22:42 PM  

cretinbob: [www.taaz.com image 778x1024]


Well, I guess by never sleeping again I'll have scads of free time going forward.
 
2014-02-15 07:23:18 PM  

EngineerAU: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

Do people still believe that OJ Simpson killed people even though a criminal court didn't find him guilty?

/Wonder how much overlap there is between the OJ=Guilty and Zimmerman=Innocent crowds


What's the over/under on his own version of "If I Had Done It?"
 
2014-02-15 07:24:24 PM  

hardinparamedic: BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]

Please tell me you have leather chaps and a cowboy hat when you wear that, right?


and a pony
 
2014-02-15 07:25:54 PM  

iheartscotch: BSABSVR: iheartscotch: I feel that, if the media hadn't picked up on it, we would have never heard a peep about it

That's pretty much the way every story works.  If you don't hear about it, you don't hear about it.

See? That's my point! The media made this a thing. Florida being Florida; I'd bet that there wouldn't have been a trial without all of the media attention.


I bet if the media didn't pick up on it, George Zimmerman would have marched over to Trayvon Martin's house, raped, murdered, and cannibalized his parents, then lit a burning cross on their front lawn before taking a dump on their partially-consumed skeletons.

Thank god for the media putting the spotlight on this godless monster

And thank god for the Fark Lawyers who were there on the scene to provide irrefutable first-hand accounts of what exactly happened. It was really the racist police dept. who conspired against Trayvon Martin and they're the ones who burned all of the Fark Lawyers testimonies, knowing that if the people of Fark were to tell the media what really happened, Zimmerman would have been sentenced to the death penalty and executed right on the spot by the judge.

And they simply couldn't have that, not when their entire purpose is to make sure black teenagers are murdered at every possible opportunity.
 
2014-02-15 07:26:02 PM  

the_wanderer: gnosis301: No kidding. Dude's a murderer, through and through, but that was one shiatty article.

I bet I can tell who never read any of Trayvon's text messages.


What do text messages have to do with a weirdo stalking and killing a teenager?
 
2014-02-15 07:27:02 PM  

cretinbob: I think it's pretty farked up that people are still jerking off over Zimmerman and I do't think there has been a single Dunn thread. Maybe because Dunn really is a racist fark piece of shiat drunk and the other racist fark piece of shiat drunks can't defend him.


I thought I saw one earlier, but I could be wrong. Dunn is too obvious. He looks like a suburban dad business middle-management type. Also, the loud music issue is just too close to a stereotype. There's nothing to white-knight that isn't painfully obvious. He's white enough to make white people actually think, "Damn that's a serious white guy."
 
2014-02-15 07:30:29 PM  

parasol: Miss Alexandra: Tourney3p0: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

Regardless of what caused him to shoot, he did follow a kid around with a gun and eventually shot him.

Uh, no.

St. Skittles (that's what some of us call him) attacked Zimmerman.  He was knocking Zimmerman's head against the ground, and in case you didn't know, you can die of head injuries.  So in a sense St. Skittles was armed--with the pavement.

It was self-defense, plain and simple.

I might add that Skittles and watermelon juice (which is what he had, not iced tea) along with a third ingredient (I think it's cough syrup) are used to make a drug.  No, I haven't done it, but I read about it.

So St. Skittles wasn't the innocent little saint the media was portraying him as.

please tell me this is a parody fark account


I like how he even gives himself a female moniker, because nobody would fight with a "lady" on the interwebs amirite?
 
2014-02-15 07:31:35 PM  
There's a thread up now

www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-02-15 07:32:45 PM  

jayhawk88: the8re: Objectivity, how the Fark does it work?

He left his home, armed, chased down, shot and killed a young man who had done nothing more than walk through his yard.

Fark objectivity. He's human garbage.


Thanks for letting everyone here know that you're an idiot who knows nothing about anything. Saves us a lot of time.
 
2014-02-15 07:32:48 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: parasol: Miss Alexandra: Tourney3p0: GORDON: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

Serious question: do people actually believe this happened?

Regardless of what caused him to shoot, he did follow a kid around with a gun and eventually shot him.

Uh, no.

St. Skittles (that's what some of us call him) attacked Zimmerman.  He was knocking Zimmerman's head against the ground, and in case you didn't know, you can die of head injuries.  So in a sense St. Skittles was armed--with the pavement.

It was self-defense, plain and simple.

I might add that Skittles and watermelon juice (which is what he had, not iced tea) along with a third ingredient (I think it's cough syrup) are used to make a drug.  No, I haven't done it, but I read about it.

So St. Skittles wasn't the innocent little saint the media was portraying him as.

please tell me this is a parody fark account

I like how he even gives himself a female moniker, because nobody would fight with a "lady" on the interwebs amirite?


I think maggie, myself, and a few others would disagree with that. :P
 
2014-02-15 07:32:54 PM  
What's even sadder is that blog.
 
2014-02-15 07:33:22 PM  

BSABSVR: What is not a thing is requiring "watermelon juice" and/or skittles.


Yes it is. You never put skittles in Zima? You never put skittles in vodka? Really? Watch kids drink next time you're in a college party.


Anyway, I agree with you that it's HIGHLY unlikely that Trayvon was in fact making purple drank in his father's home in a gated community on a week night. I also don't think that's a bad thing if he was. I support recreational drug and feel that it's destroying our society to even have vice law. As long as you're not driving or eating anyone's face, who cares if you're high? But to say that a sweet drink and skittles aren't required? It's like saying you don't need charcoal to smoke a hookah.
 
2014-02-15 07:33:59 PM  

parasol: i'd pay his court costs for a legal name change just to stop the time the press spends on him.


It really wouldn't matter since he's the one who seeks out the attention, not the other way around.
 
2014-02-15 07:34:41 PM  

cretinbob: Somacandra: cretinbob: mistrial on murder 1

AHHHHHHH You got that from CNN, didn't you LOL

They've changed it back from mistrial to "further deliberations."

Yeah, I din't hear what the judge was going to do.
I think it's pretty farked up that people are still jerking off over Zimmerman and I do't think there has been a single Dunn thread.

Maybe because Dunn really is a racist fark piece of shiat drunk and the other racist fark piece of shiat drunks can't defend him.


Why don't you come up with a headline funny enough for the thread to get green lit?
 
2014-02-15 07:35:24 PM  

BadReligion: lunging_man_ass: Wow, did the author of that article actually watch the trial and the evidence presented? It amazes me how many people have no idea what the actual facts of the case are, and instead rely on overtly emotional notions based on ignorant Facebook slacktivism.

Considering the fact that he thinks that it was a SYG case, and all the emotional but thirst, I would say no. That said, Zimmerman is an idiot, and should probably try to lay low more than he has been.


that right there made stopping by this thread worthwhile.  "emotional butt-thirst" sounds like the next michael bolton album...
 
2014-02-15 07:36:51 PM  

SilentStrider: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

doubtful. more likely he's blaming it on the bleeding heart libs.


It is your fault. You make criminals like Traypack, defend them. He did a heroic deed. Hopefully he sues the media. NBC or ABC, whoever it was that doctored 911 call on national TV is up crap creek.

George is a national hero.
 
2014-02-15 07:38:14 PM  

Weatherkiss: sobriquet by any other name: hardinparamedic: doglover: Clearly the boy did something wrong. Zimmerman's life was ruined already, but it was a legal shooting.

Don't care. He's in this situation because of his own doing. He's like the guy who smoked for sixty years and is surprised he has lung cancer.

Yes. It was a legal shooting. Yes, it was self defense at the point he shot him. We get that.

I don't feel sorry for him. He's an idiot.

not to mention, how much of a bad-ass Gunsmateer can you be if you can't use a gun non-lethally. What, ya'll just empty the clip into the heart with your eyes closed? WTF?

Not everybody is the Lone Ranger. Guns typically aren't used to shoot other guns out of the hands of people. They're used to decide fights.


So that'd be close your eyes tight and hope you dont shiat your pants, then. Figures.
 
2014-02-15 07:39:13 PM  

Weatherkiss: iheartscotch: BSABSVR: iheartscotch: I feel that, if the media hadn't picked up on it, we would have never heard a peep about it

That's pretty much the way every story works.  If you don't hear about it, you don't hear about it.

See? That's my point! The media made this a thing. Florida being Florida; I'd bet that there wouldn't have been a trial without all of the media attention.

I bet if the media didn't pick up on it, George Zimmerman would have marched over to Trayvon Martin's house, raped, murdered, and cannibalized his parents, then lit a burning cross on their front lawn before taking a dump on their partially-consumed skeletons.

Thank god for the media putting the spotlight on this godless monster

And thank god for the Fark Lawyers who were there on the scene to provide irrefutable first-hand accounts of what exactly happened. It was really the racist police dept. who conspired against Trayvon Martin and they're the ones who burned all of the Fark Lawyers testimonies, knowing that if the people of Fark were to tell the media what really happened, Zimmerman would have been sentenced to the death penalty and executed right on the spot by the judge.

And they simply couldn't have that, not when their entire purpose is to make sure black teenagers are murdered at every possible opportunity.


Nice try Weatherkiss, but we're too far along with the outcome of the fabricated case that was covered in the courtroom to try to get people to hear the truth now. Maybe if we'd tried sooner...
 
2014-02-15 07:39:20 PM  

parasol: The_Original_Roxtar: funny how media assassination and overzealous prosecution without a shred of evidence can destroy a person financially.

did I say funny? i meant tragic.


it is also funny - i mean tragic - how a person's destruction by the media can begin with a simple and shocking error in judgement on their part

please, don't use the word "assassination" in conjunction with Zimmerman - he is not in a position to warrant the phrase, nor is he dead

he could have moved to bumfark wyoming and gotten a job - and privacy - others have done so



If moving to 1% unemployment rate North Dakota isn't good enough for welfare cases, why should Fatty have to 'move to where the jobs are'?
 
2014-02-15 07:39:32 PM  

cynicalminion: BadReligion: lunging_man_ass: Wow, did the author of that article actually watch the trial and the evidence presented? It amazes me how many people have no idea what the actual facts of the case are, and instead rely on overtly emotional notions based on ignorant Facebook slacktivism.

Considering the fact that he thinks that it was a SYG case, and all the emotional but thirst, I would say no. That said, Zimmerman is an idiot, and should probably try to lay low more than he has been.

that right there made stopping by this thread worthwhile.  "emotional butt-thirst" sounds like the next michael bolton album...


www.papermag.com
 
2014-02-15 07:44:00 PM  

doglover: Yes it is. You never put skittles in Zima? You never put skittles in vodka? Really? Watch kids drink next time you're in a college party.


Do you not understand the concept of "required"?   And yes,  I've farking *made* skittles infused vodka. It takes about 2 days for the skittles to dissolve and without a coffee filter and a funnel you have a nasty pile of waxiness in your drink.  Nobody getting high on codeine is going to use skittles  when Sprite or 7-up are available.
 
2014-02-15 07:44:47 PM  

Majick Thise: The spin... IT. IS. TOOMUCH. SPIN.


When something like this has been argued in the courtroom, and facts presented to the public domain by the trial, at what point does "spin" like this cross the line to libel? Does internet media count? Raw Story is not quite MSNBC.com or the WSJ, but it's not Jim Bob's blog either...

Serious question.
 
2014-02-15 07:45:07 PM  

sobriquet by any other name: Weatherkiss: sobriquet by any other name: hardinparamedic: doglover: Clearly the boy did something wrong. Zimmerman's life was ruined already, but it was a legal shooting.

Don't care. He's in this situation because of his own doing. He's like the guy who smoked for sixty years and is surprised he has lung cancer.

Yes. It was a legal shooting. Yes, it was self defense at the point he shot him. We get that.

I don't feel sorry for him. He's an idiot.

not to mention, how much of a bad-ass Gunsmateer can you be if you can't use a gun non-lethally. What, ya'll just empty the clip into the heart with your eyes closed? WTF?

Not everybody is the Lone Ranger. Guns typically aren't used to shoot other guns out of the hands of people. They're used to decide fights.

So that'd be close your eyes tight and hope you dont shiat your pants, then. Figures.


Yeah because it's either one extreme or the other. You're either the Lone Ranger type who only uses their gun to shoot the guns out of other criminals hands, and only then after you carefully consider what race they are so the media won't try to paint you as a racist -- or you're a bedwetting coward who went to the Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy.
 
2014-02-15 07:46:39 PM  

lunging_man_ass: Look, I would call myself a liberal, but this is all insane if you ask me. People can't let go of the fact that someone can attempt to beat someone to death and it's legal to use deadly force to protect yourself.


Martin didn't use deadly force.    At least not yet.  Apparently, the jury though a reasonable person might deem it deadly force.
 
2014-02-15 07:49:25 PM  
This all goes to prove that Zimmerman was a really great guy to have on the neighborhood watch committee.  Note to all those homeless folk living underneath the interstate -- steer clear of the Skittles and tea.
 
2014-02-15 07:50:54 PM  

BSABSVR: doglover: Yes it is. You never put skittles in Zima? You never put skittles in vodka? Really? Watch kids drink next time you're in a college party.

Do you not understand the concept of "required"?   And yes,  I've farking *made* skittles infused vodka. It takes about 2 days for the skittles to dissolve and without a coffee filter and a funnel you have a nasty pile of waxiness in your drink.  Nobody getting high on codeine is going to use skittles  when Sprite or 7-up are available.


it doesn't take two days. It takes minutes. IN ZIMA. It's a garnish.
 
2014-02-15 07:53:54 PM  

BSABSVR: doglover: Yes it is. You never put skittles in Zima? You never put skittles in vodka? Really? Watch kids drink next time you're in a college party.

Do you not understand the concept of "required"?   And yes,  I've farking *made* skittles infused vodka. It takes about 2 days for the skittles to dissolve and without a coffee filter and a funnel you have a nasty pile of waxiness in your drink.  Nobody getting high on codeine is going to use skittles  when Sprite or 7-up are available.


We're talking about sizzurp, not cooking meth, Cletus.
 
gja
2014-02-15 07:54:58 PM  

gravy chugging cretin.: hardinparamedic: BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]

Please tell me you have leather chaps and a cowboy hat when you wear that, right?

ASSLESS leather chaps


Chaps are ALWAYS "assless". That's why you are supposed to ear PANTS. Unless you are in certain new wave group from the 80s.
 
2014-02-15 07:56:08 PM  
That was very fair and balanced.
 
2014-02-15 07:56:29 PM  

doglover: it doesn't take two days. It takes minutes. IN ZIMA. It's a garnish.



Zima isn't sweet enough?

/ tastes like zit
 
2014-02-15 07:57:16 PM  
All those teabaggers who 'had his back': why aren't they assisting him?
 
2014-02-15 07:57:58 PM  
It's still funny that Zim-Zim's defenders still play the "he was being slammed mercilessly into the pavement" angle, implying that he's such a weakling that he was getting dominated by someone he had 80 pounds on, yet now, Zimmerman thinks he's a boxer.
 
2014-02-15 07:58:46 PM  
The butthurt meter is off the chart in that article
 
2014-02-15 08:01:25 PM  
What I've learned in this thread: It's OK if a wife beater shoots and kills an unarmed kid because skinny teenagers with Skittles are probably making purple drank.
 
2014-02-15 08:02:32 PM  

duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


OJ Simpson was acquitted too.  Juries sometimes make mistakes.
 
2014-02-15 08:12:24 PM  

Huggermugger: All those teabaggers who 'had his back': why aren't they assisting him?


I hope his lazy ass isn't collecting welfare or SSDI.
 
2014-02-15 08:15:58 PM  
Lesson learned.

If you are black, and somebody that you think is white looks at you for too long, you should bash their head into the ground, there will be a large group of people that support your decision.

If you see somebody you don't recognize and call the cops to try to keep bad things from happening then get your head bashed in then defend yourself, be prepared to burn in hell.
 
2014-02-15 08:17:36 PM  

Graffito: Huggermugger: All those teabaggers who 'had his back': why aren't they assisting him?

I hope his lazy ass isn't collecting welfare or SSDI.



Are you kidding? Some idiot Kochsucker is giving him six figures for his photoshopped "art."
 
2014-02-15 08:19:17 PM  

BSABSVR: doglover: Yes it is. You never put skittles in Zima? You never put skittles in vodka? Really? Watch kids drink next time you're in a college party.

Do you not understand the concept of "required"?   And yes,  I've farking *made* skittles infused vodka. It takes about 2 days for the skittles to dissolve and without a coffee filter and a funnel you have a nasty pile of waxiness in your drink.  Nobody getting high on codeine is going to use skittles  when Sprite or 7-up are available.


hell, the Hacker Dojo in Mountain View, CA does skittle-vodka parties, and it doesn't get much whiter than that.

/okay, quite the cultural variety there, but you know what I mean... bustin' stereotypes.
 
2014-02-15 08:25:28 PM  

Olo Manolo: Lesson learned.

If you are black, unarmed and somebody that you think is white looks at you for too long follows you around at night without saying anything to you, you should bash their head into the ground, there will be a large group of people that support your decision.

If you see somebody you don't recognize and call the cops to try to keep bad things from happening and then follow them instead of letting the police do their job then get your head bashed in some bruising a small scrape on your forehead then defend yourself with deadly force, be prepared to burn in hell.


Fixed to more accurately represent Zimmerman's own sworn testimony and the physical evidence.

Seriously people, even if every single word of Zimmerman's testimony is the absolute 100% unvarnished truth, Martin died because Zimmerman followed an unarmed teenager at night instead of letting the police do their f*cking jobs.
 
2014-02-15 08:27:04 PM  

stoli n coke: It's still funny that Zim-Zim's defenders still play the "he was being slammed mercilessly into the pavement" angle, implying that he's such a weakling that he was getting dominated by someone he had 80 pounds on, yet now, Zimmerman thinks he's a boxer.


Those 80 pnds were around the middle.  Dude is pear shaped.  Trayvon was high(inducing paranoia) had a history of beating up people that pissed him off(like his former principal), and was probably a burglar(only way he could have paid for those gold teeth they didn't show on the tv news.  This was exactly the wrong set of traits to mix with an out of shape wannabe Dirty Harry.  Trayvon was well on his way to becoming a revolving door inmate in the Florida corrections system while Zimmerman was well on his way to continuing to be a pear shaped loser.

And everybody just loses their minds whenever these two are brought up.
 
2014-02-15 08:30:56 PM  
Stopped reading after the first sentence.  What incredible, unprofessional crap.
 
gja
2014-02-15 08:35:44 PM  

stoli n coke: It's still funny that Zim-Zim's defenders still play the "he was being slammed mercilessly into the pavement" angle, implying that he's such a weakling that he was getting dominated by someone he had 80 pounds on, yet now, Zimmerman thinks he's a boxer.


Not going to address the actual point of this thread, but rather remind you size means SHIAT in a fight.
My sensei could beat senseless any man twice his size, and then some. Weight is especially NOT relevant.
 
2014-02-15 08:36:21 PM  
George Zimmerman, who once shot a young man in Florida just to watch him die...

farm4.staticflickr.com

/and anything else by RAWSTORY
 
2014-02-15 08:37:44 PM  
Classy, Fark. "Hey, someone's homeless that we disagree with politically, let's all point and laugh at them in a way that will in no way reflect poorly on our character, because everyone else is doing it!"
 
gja
2014-02-15 08:37:59 PM  

Issame: Stopped reading after the first sentence.  What incredible, unprofessional crap.


^^^This^^^

TBogg is a coont. An asshole of amazing degrees.
 
2014-02-15 08:40:04 PM  

vharshyde: Classy, Fark. "Hey, someone's homeless that we disagree with politically, let's all point and laugh at them in a way that will in no way reflect poorly on our character, because everyone else is doing it!"


Welcome to Fark buttercup.
 
gja
2014-02-15 08:45:56 PM  

TheJoe03: vharshyde: Classy, Fark. "Hey, someone's homeless that we disagree with politically, let's all point and laugh at them in a way that will in no way reflect poorly on our character, because everyone else is doing it!"

Welcome to Fark buttercup.


Schadenfreude today, karma tomorrow.
 
2014-02-15 08:50:20 PM  

duffblue: jayhawk88: the8re: Objectivity, how the Fark does it work?

He left his home, armed, chased down, shot and killed a young man who had done nothing more than walk through his yard.

Fark objectivity. He's human garbage.

Thanks for letting everyone here know that you're an idiot who knows nothing about anything. Saves us a lot of time.


Likewise.
 
2014-02-15 08:57:55 PM  

gnosis301: Mattyb710: *click*

 George Zimmerman, who once shot a young man in Florida just to watch him die...

and close.

No kidding. Dude's a murderer, through and through, but that was one shiatty article.


It's more like Trayvon Martin got shot trying to rob and stomp a white man.
 
2014-02-15 08:58:55 PM  

Jarhead_h: stoli n coke: It's still funny that Zim-Zim's defenders still play the "he was being slammed mercilessly into the pavement" angle, implying that he's such a weakling that he was getting dominated by someone he had 80 pounds on, yet now, Zimmerman thinks he's a boxer.

Those 80 pnds were around the middle.  Dude is pear shaped.  Trayvon was high



You realize that weed is not now, and never has been, a performance-enhancing drug, right?
Doesn't change the fact that the guy who couldn't figure out a way out of Urkel's death hold now thinks he could have beat up DMX.
 
2014-02-15 09:05:23 PM  

vharshyde: Classy, Fark. "Hey, someone's homeless that we disagree with politically, let's all point and laugh at them in a way that will in no way reflect poorly on our character, because everyone else is doing it!"


He's still not going to sleep with you. Actually now he might.
 
2014-02-15 09:05:25 PM  
the real tragedy of all of this is if Zimmerman had listened to the police dispatcher and not followed the kid no one need have died that night.
 
2014-02-15 09:13:18 PM  

grimlock1972: the real tragedy of all of this is if Zimmerman had listened to the police dispatcher and not followed the kid no one need have died that night.


But don't you see? He had the RIGHT to do that? Everyone has the right to go up to black teenagers and follow them, just to be sure they aren't up to no good. Question them about their whereabouts, check to see if they are committing a crime, make sure they belong in the area. You can't be too sure of them, and if they don't comply, they are obviously dangerous gangsta thugs who are itching itching to do something bad. A good black will know their place relative to all other races. You can't be too careful with these people. They need constant monitoring.
 
2014-02-15 09:18:27 PM  

stoli n coke: Jarhead_h: stoli n coke: It's still funny that Zim-Zim's defenders still play the "he was being slammed mercilessly into the pavement" angle, implying that he's such a weakling that he was getting dominated by someone he had 80 pounds on, yet now, Zimmerman thinks he's a boxer.

Those 80 pnds were around the middle.  Dude is pear shaped.  Trayvon was high


You realize that weed is not now, and never has been, a performance-enhancing drug, right?
Doesn't change the fact that the guy who couldn't figure out a way out of Urkel's death hold now thinks he could have beat up DMX.


You must not be smoking good weed.
 
2014-02-15 09:19:25 PM  

jayhawk88: the8re: Objectivity, how the Fark does it work?

He left his home, armed, chased down followed a suspicious person from a distance, called police, and after the suspicious person attacked him and began pounding Zimmerman's head on pavement, shot and killed a young man who had done nothing more than walk through his yard violently physically assault a man trying to keep the neighborhood safe.

Fark objectivity. He's I'm human garbage.


FTFY, looks like we have another Facebook slacktivist.
 
2014-02-15 09:20:06 PM  

stoli n coke: Jarhead_h: stoli n coke: It's still funny that Zim-Zim's defenders still play the "he was being slammed mercilessly into the pavement" angle, implying that he's such a weakling that he was getting dominated by someone he had 80 pounds on, yet now, Zimmerman thinks he's a boxer.

Those 80 pnds were around the middle.  Dude is pear shaped.  Trayvon was high


You realize that weed is not now, and never has been, a performance-enhancing drug, right?
Doesn't change the fact that the guy who couldn't figure out a way out of Urkel's death hold now thinks he could have beat up DMX.


It helps in eating contests.
 
2014-02-15 09:21:28 PM  

lunging_man_ass: jayhawk88: the8re: Objectivity, how the Fark does it work?

He left his home, armed, chased down followed a suspicious person from a distance, called police, and after the suspicious person attacked him and began pounding Zimmerman's head on pavement, shot and killed a young man who had done nothing more than walk through his yard violently physically assault a man trying to keep the neighborhood safe.

Fark objectivity. He's I'm human garbage.

FTFY, looks like we have another Facebook slacktivist.


Is that the conservative phrase of the day?
 
2014-02-15 09:21:53 PM  
WOW

Anyone associated with that website needs to be forced into watching their mother be raped.
 
2014-02-15 09:22:58 PM  

TheJoe03: lunging_man_ass: jayhawk88: the8re: Objectivity, how the Fark does it work?

He left his home, armed, chased down followed a suspicious person from a distance, called police, and after the suspicious person attacked him and began pounding Zimmerman's head on pavement, shot and killed a young man who had done nothing more than walk through his yard violently physically assault a man trying to keep the neighborhood safe.

Fark objectivity. He's I'm human garbage.

FTFY, looks like we have another Facebook slacktivist.

Is that the conservative phrase of the day?


My presidential voting history is Kerry, Obama, Obama.

Keep trying.
 
2014-02-15 09:24:37 PM  
It's funny to watch the people who were so emotionally invested in the false narrative of 'Evil white man randomly shoots black child' feel 'vindicated' by this.
 
2014-02-15 09:28:38 PM  
Wow, that 'story' isn't just biased--it might as well be considered propaganda.
 
2014-02-15 09:28:42 PM  

lunging_man_ass: TheJoe03: lunging_man_ass: jayhawk88: the8re: Objectivity, how the Fark does it work?

He left his home, armed, chased down followed a suspicious person from a distance, called police, and after the suspicious person attacked him and began pounding Zimmerman's head on pavement, shot and killed a young man who had done nothing more than walk through his yard violently physically assault a man trying to keep the neighborhood safe.

Fark objectivity. He's I'm human garbage.

FTFY, looks like we have another Facebook slacktivist.

Is that the conservative phrase of the day?

My presidential voting history is Kerry, Obama, Obama.

Keep trying.


I wasn't trying and voting Democrat doesn't make you liberal.
 
2014-02-15 09:31:20 PM  

duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.



Don't you know, in liberal justice, if you harm a minority YOU ARE GUILTY. Doesn't matter if he proved his innocence and that it was rightful and self defense in a court of his peers, he harmed a black "teenager" so therefore the white guilt train should have carried him all the way to death row.

furthermore, if the court doesn't go your way, just attack him and ruin his life! Its the lib way!
 
2014-02-15 09:33:10 PM  
Damn.  Who says only Repubs are spiteful vindictive douches?
 
2014-02-15 09:34:31 PM  

atomicmask: duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


Don't you know, in liberal justice, if you harm a minority YOU ARE GUILTY. Doesn't matter if he proved his innocence and that it was rightful and self defense in a court of his peers, he harmed a black "teenager" so therefore the white guilt train should have carried him all the way to death row.

furthermore, if the court doesn't go your way, just attack him and ruin his life! Its the lib way!


I don't like him cause he was such a wannabe cop that the kid died, it all seemed avoidable. Zimmerman wanted to serve vigilante justice and now people hate him. Boo hoo.
 
2014-02-15 09:35:31 PM  

atomicmask: duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


Don't you know, in liberal justice, if you harm a minority YOU ARE GUILTY. Doesn't matter if he proved his innocence and that it was rightful and self defense in a court of his peers, he harmed a black "teenager" so therefore the white guilt train should have carried him all the way to death row.

furthermore, if the court doesn't go your way, just attack him and ruin his life! Its the lib way!


I'm liberal and knew Zimmerman was getting acquitted. Outside of Fark CSI and Fark Lawyers who keep sticking to their guns for whatever reason, it seems there are quite a few liberals on Fark who see the incident for what it was and aren't trying to fabricate anything else other than easily avoidable altercation between 2 assholes.

Not all of us are bored enough to look for a social justice issue where none exists.
 
2014-02-15 09:38:04 PM  

Weatherkiss: atomicmask: duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


Don't you know, in liberal justice, if you harm a minority YOU ARE GUILTY. Doesn't matter if he proved his innocence and that it was rightful and self defense in a court of his peers, he harmed a black "teenager" so therefore the white guilt train should have carried him all the way to death row.

furthermore, if the court doesn't go your way, just attack him and ruin his life! Its the lib way!

I'm liberal and knew Zimmerman was getting acquitted. Outside of Fark CSI and Fark Lawyers who keep sticking to their guns for whatever reason, it seems there are quite a few liberals on Fark who see the incident for what it was and aren't trying to fabricate anything else other than easily avoidable altercation between 2 assholes.

Not all of us are bored enough to look for a social justice issue where none exists.


Oh god, you guys still exist? Here I was thinking that the rational liberal minded individual was a extinct thing, replaced by the "Die cis scum" social justice brigades that currently populate fark and the internet.
 
2014-02-15 09:39:41 PM  

atomicmask: Weatherkiss: atomicmask: duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


Don't you know, in liberal justice, if you harm a minority YOU ARE GUILTY. Doesn't matter if he proved his innocence and that it was rightful and self defense in a court of his peers, he harmed a black "teenager" so therefore the white guilt train should have carried him all the way to death row.

furthermore, if the court doesn't go your way, just attack him and ruin his life! Its the lib way!

I'm liberal and knew Zimmerman was getting acquitted. Outside of Fark CSI and Fark Lawyers who keep sticking to their guns for whatever reason, it seems there are quite a few liberals on Fark who see the incident for what it was and aren't trying to fabricate anything else other than easily avoidable altercation between 2 assholes.

Not all of us are bored enough to look for a social justice issue where none exists.

Oh god, you guys still exist? Here I was thinking that the rational liberal minded individual was a extinct thing, replaced by the "Die cis scum" social justice brigades that currently populate fark and the internet.


What does cis mean?
 
2014-02-15 09:41:19 PM  

TheJoe03: atomicmask: duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


Don't you know, in liberal justice, if you harm a minority YOU ARE GUILTY. Doesn't matter if he proved his innocence and that it was rightful and self defense in a court of his peers, he harmed a black "teenager" so therefore the white guilt train should have carried him all the way to death row.

furthermore, if the court doesn't go your way, just attack him and ruin his life! Its the lib way!

I don't like him cause he was such a wannabe cop that the kid died, it all seemed avoidable. Zimmerman wanted to serve vigilante justice and now people hate him. Boo hoo.


I like him because he was a concerned neighborhood watchman who spotted a wanna be thug and drug dealer loitering around the neighborhood and made sure his neighbors were alright. It was avoidable, don't assault someone for looking at you funny and you won't get shot. Trayvon wanted to "stomp a cracka's ass" and learned the hard way that some crackers are harder to crumble then others.
 
2014-02-15 09:42:40 PM  

TheJoe03: atomicmask: Weatherkiss: atomicmask: duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


Don't you know, in liberal justice, if you harm a minority YOU ARE GUILTY. Doesn't matter if he proved his innocence and that it was rightful and self defense in a court of his peers, he harmed a black "teenager" so therefore the white guilt train should have carried him all the way to death row.

furthermore, if the court doesn't go your way, just attack him and ruin his life! Its the lib way!

I'm liberal and knew Zimmerman was getting acquitted. Outside of Fark CSI and Fark Lawyers who keep sticking to their guns for whatever reason, it seems there are quite a few liberals on Fark who see the incident for what it was and aren't trying to fabricate anything else other than easily avoidable altercation between 2 assholes.

Not all of us are bored enough to look for a social justice issue where none exists.

Oh god, you guys still exist? Here I was thinking that the rational liberal minded individual was a extinct thing, replaced by the "Die cis scum" social justice brigades that currently populate fark and the internet.

What does cis mean?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender 

Heteronormaitive. apparently the social justice brigades hate us cause we enjoy strait sex.
 
2014-02-15 09:42:48 PM  

atomicmask: TheJoe03: atomicmask: duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


Don't you know, in liberal justice, if you harm a minority YOU ARE GUILTY. Doesn't matter if he proved his innocence and that it was rightful and self defense in a court of his peers, he harmed a black "teenager" so therefore the white guilt train should have carried him all the way to death row.

furthermore, if the court doesn't go your way, just attack him and ruin his life! Its the lib way!

I don't like him cause he was such a wannabe cop that the kid died, it all seemed avoidable. Zimmerman wanted to serve vigilante justice and now people hate him. Boo hoo.

I like him because he was a concerned neighborhood watchman who spotted a wanna be thug and drug dealer loitering around the neighborhood and made sure his neighbors were alright. It was avoidable, don't assault someone for looking at you funny and you won't get shot. Trayvon wanted to "stomp a cracka's ass" and learned the hard way that some crackers are harder to crumble then others.


Oh boy, time for me to back out of this conversation, don't like where this is going.
 
2014-02-15 09:45:20 PM  

atomicmask: TheJoe03: atomicmask: Weatherkiss: atomicmask: duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


Don't you know, in liberal justice, if you harm a minority YOU ARE GUILTY. Doesn't matter if he proved his innocence and that it was rightful and self defense in a court of his peers, he harmed a black "teenager" so therefore the white guilt train should have carried him all the way to death row.

furthermore, if the court doesn't go your way, just attack him and ruin his life! Its the lib way!

I'm liberal and knew Zimmerman was getting acquitted. Outside of Fark CSI and Fark Lawyers who keep sticking to their guns for whatever reason, it seems there are quite a few liberals on Fark who see the incident for what it was and aren't trying to fabricate anything else other than easily avoidable altercation between 2 assholes.

Not all of us are bored enough to look for a social justice issue where none exists.

Oh god, you guys still exist? Here I was thinking that the rational liberal minded individual was a extinct thing, replaced by the "Die cis scum" social justice brigades that currently populate fark and the internet.

What does cis mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender 

Heteronormaitive. apparently the social justice brigades hate us cause we enjoy strait sex.


Oh, that reminds of "mansplaining" and all the words feminists on the internet are making up. Seems goofy, I hope they realize they are making their side look silly.
 
2014-02-15 09:46:31 PM  

cretinbob: [scholarsandrogues.files.wordpress.com image 524x389]


fark.  If that image doesn't say it all, than nothing does. Where I'm from, there are consequences for shooting and killing an unarmed child regardless of the circumstances.
 
2014-02-15 09:47:49 PM  

randomjsa: It's funny to watch the people who were so emotionally invested in the false narrative of 'Evil white man randomly shoots black child' feel 'vindicated' by this.


I never thought Zimmerman was evil/racist or even necessarily white.  I just believe when you shoot and kill an unarmed person (under almost any circumstances) you should go to jail.
 
2014-02-15 09:48:02 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Olo Manolo: Lesson learned.

If you are black, unarmed and somebody that you think is white looks at you for too long follows you around at night without saying anything to you, you should bash their head into the ground, there will be a large group of people that support your decision.

If you see somebody you don't recognize and call the cops to try to keep bad things from happening and then follow them instead of letting the police do their job then get your head bashed in some bruising a small scrape on your forehead then defend yourself with deadly force, be prepared to burn in hell.

Fixed to more accurately represent Zimmerman's own sworn testimony and the physical evidence.

Seriously people, even if every single word of Zimmerman's testimony is the absolute 100% unvarnished truth, Martin died because Zimmerman followed an unarmed teenager at night instead of letting the police do their f*cking jobs.


www.martinfrost.ws
That's an odd place to put a forehead, right on the back of his head...

How do you ignore the part where the martin walked away, he WENT ELSEWHERE UNHARMED, aka situation over. Then RETURNED to pummel Zimmerman... If you get away from a situation safely, no harm done, then return to the situation aggressively, that is not self defense. That is looking for trouble. But go ahead, tell me more about the perfect little angel who was known for his kindness and compassion that was tracked down for several blocks by a rabid racist and shot in the back for fun...
 
2014-02-15 09:48:03 PM  
TBogg has some serious BHurt.
 
2014-02-15 09:48:47 PM  

Farker Soze: Damn.  Who says only Repubs are spiteful vindictive douches?


Were you glad that OJ ended up in jail?
 
2014-02-15 09:50:12 PM  

Olo Manolo: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Olo Manolo: Lesson learned.

If you are black, unarmed and somebody that you think is white looks at you for too long follows you around at night without saying anything to you, you should bash their head into the ground, there will be a large group of people that support your decision.

If you see somebody you don't recognize and call the cops to try to keep bad things from happening and then follow them instead of letting the police do their job then get your head bashed in some bruising a small scrape on your forehead then defend yourself with deadly force, be prepared to burn in hell.

Fixed to more accurately represent Zimmerman's own sworn testimony and the physical evidence.

Seriously people, even if every single word of Zimmerman's testimony is the absolute 100% unvarnished truth, Martin died because Zimmerman followed an unarmed teenager at night instead of letting the police do their f*cking jobs.

[www.martinfrost.ws image 474x224]
That's an odd place to put a forehead, right on the back of his head...

How do you ignore the part where the martin walked away, he WENT ELSEWHERE UNHARMED, aka situation over. Then RETURNED to pummel Zimmerman... If you get away from a situation safely, no harm done, then return to the situation aggressively, that is not self defense. That is looking for trouble. But go ahead, tell me more about the perfect little angel who was known for his kindness and compassion that was tracked down for several blocks by a rabid racist and shot in the back for fun...


and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail
 
2014-02-15 09:51:07 PM  

atomicmask: TheJoe03: atomicmask: duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


Don't you know, in liberal justice, if you harm a minority YOU ARE GUILTY. Doesn't matter if he proved his innocence and that it was rightful and self defense in a court of his peers, he harmed a black "teenager" so therefore the white guilt train should have carried him all the way to death row.

furthermore, if the court doesn't go your way, just attack him and ruin his life! Its the lib way!

I don't like him cause he was such a wannabe cop that the kid died, it all seemed avoidable. Zimmerman wanted to serve vigilante justice and now people hate him. Boo hoo.

I like him because he was a concerned neighborhood watchman who spotted a wanna be thug and drug dealer loitering around the neighborhood and made sure his neighbors were alright. It was avoidable, don't assault someone for looking at you funny and you won't get shot. Trayvon wanted to "stomp a cracka's ass" and learned the hard way that some crackers are harder to crumble then others.


As an aid to comprehension, I have emboldened the passages that came directly from your ass.
 
2014-02-15 09:52:03 PM  

mrshowrules: cretinbob: [scholarsandrogues.files.wordpress.com image 524x389]

fark.  If that image doesn't say it all, than nothing does. Where I'm from, there are consequences for shooting and killing an unarmed child regardless of the circumstances.


Child, you keep using that word, but I do not think you know what it means. 17 years old is not a child, in 1 year he would have been able to join the military.
 
2014-02-15 09:55:04 PM  

lunging_man_ass: jayhawk88: the8re: Objectivity, how the Fark does it work?

He left his home, armed, chased down followed a suspicious person from a distance, called police, and after the suspicious person attacked him and began pounding Zimmerman's head on pavement, shot and killed a young man who had done nothing more than walk through his yard violently physically assault a man trying to keep the neighborhood safe.

Fark objectivity. He's I'm human garbage.

FTFY, looks like we have another Facebook slacktivist.


I notice that you left out the part where Zimmerman continued to follow the suspicious person after having called the police and was instructed by the dispatcher to not follow said suspicious person and then proceeded to ignore what he was told by the dispatcher.  I wonder why you would leave that part out?  Oh, that's right, because it would conflict with your "Zimmerman was an innocent hero" narrative.

It wouldn't have mattered if Martin had been the size of Terry Crews, had a gun in each hand, and was wearing a "Killing is my business and business is good" t-shirt, Zimmerman should have followed instructions and let the police do their jobs.  Vigilantism has no place outside of b-grade action flicks and NRA members' wet dreams.
 
2014-02-15 09:56:07 PM  

atomicmask: TheJoe03: atomicmask: Weatherkiss: atomicmask: duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


Don't you know, in liberal justice, if you harm a minority YOU ARE GUILTY. Doesn't matter if he proved his innocence and that it was rightful and self defense in a court of his peers, he harmed a black "teenager" so therefore the white guilt train should have carried him all the way to death row.

furthermore, if the court doesn't go your way, just attack him and ruin his life! Its the lib way!

I'm liberal and knew Zimmerman was getting acquitted. Outside of Fark CSI and Fark Lawyers who keep sticking to their guns for whatever reason, it seems there are quite a few liberals on Fark who see the incident for what it was and aren't trying to fabricate anything else other than easily avoidable altercation between 2 assholes.

Not all of us are bored enough to look for a social justice issue where none exists.

Oh god, you guys still exist? Here I was thinking that the rational liberal minded individual was a extinct thing, replaced by the "Die cis scum" social justice brigades that currently populate fark and the internet.

What does cis mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender 

Heteronormaitive. apparently the social justice brigades hate us cause we enjoy strait sex.


Ah, you mean "normal".
 
2014-02-15 09:56:17 PM  

CheapEngineer: atomicmask: TheJoe03: atomicmask: duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


Don't you know, in liberal justice, if you harm a minority YOU ARE GUILTY. Doesn't matter if he proved his innocence and that it was rightful and self defense in a court of his peers, he harmed a black "teenager" so therefore the white guilt train should have carried him all the way to death row.

furthermore, if the court doesn't go your way, just attack him and ruin his life! Its the lib way!

I don't like him cause he was such a wannabe cop that the kid died, it all seemed avoidable. Zimmerman wanted to serve vigilante justice and now people hate him. Boo hoo.

I like him because he was a concerned neighborhood watchman who spotted a wanna be thug and drug dealer loitering around the neighborhood and made sure his neighbors were alright. It was avoidable, don't assault someone for looking at you funny and you won't get shot. Trayvon wanted to "stomp a cracka's ass" and learned the hard way that some crackers are harder to crumble then others.

As an aid to comprehension, I have emboldened the passages that came directly from your ass.


Yeah, that was creepy racist talk. I bet you can defend the Z man without saying that kind of nonsense. It would bolster their argument and make them seem rational and not full of hatred and anger.
 
2014-02-15 09:56:41 PM  

CheapEngineer: atomicmask: TheJoe03: atomicmask: duffblue: He was acquitted, not sure where Fark posters get their facts from. Lot of forensic investigators here apparently.


Don't you know, in liberal justice, if you harm a minority YOU ARE GUILTY. Doesn't matter if he proved his innocence and that it was rightful and self defense in a court of his peers, he harmed a black "teenager" so therefore the white guilt train should have carried him all the way to death row.

furthermore, if the court doesn't go your way, just attack him and ruin his life! Its the lib way!

I don't like him cause he was such a wannabe cop that the kid died, it all seemed avoidable. Zimmerman wanted to serve vigilante justice and now people hate him. Boo hoo.

I like him because he was a concerned neighborhood watchman who spotted a wanna be thug and drug dealer loitering around the neighborhood and made sure his neighbors were alright. It was avoidable, don't assault someone for looking at you funny and you won't get shot. Trayvon wanted to "stomp a cracka's ass" and learned the hard way that some crackers are harder to crumble then others.

As an aid to comprehension, I have emboldened the passages that came directly from your ass.


Oh really?

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/23/justice/florida-zimmerman-defense/

Was suspended 3 times for dealing drugs and doing them at school.

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/florida/features/2013/oh_florida/ tr ayvon_martin_creepy_ass_cracker_what_cracker_means_in_florida.html

Called Zimmerman a "creepy ass cracker" went home, turned around and came out side to "whip his ass"

Maybe you should read a bit.
 
2014-02-15 10:00:02 PM  

Olo Manolo: How do you ignore the part where the martin walked away, he WENT ELSEWHERE UNHARMED, aka situation over. Then RETURNED to pummel Zimmerman... If you get away from a situation safely, no harm done, then return to the situation aggressively, that is not self defense. That is looking for trouble. But go ahead, tell me more about the perfect little angel who was known for his kindness and compassion that was tracked down for several blocks by a rabid racist and shot in the back for fun...


How do you ignore the part where Zimmerman was told by the police to stop following Martin and he ignored them?  If the police tell you to stop following a suspicious individual, you don't then get to claim you're an innocent victim when you ignore them.

Also, thinking Zimmerman f*cked up and someone died as a direct result ≠ thinking Martin is an angel.  I'm sorry if your binary thinking can't grasp that concept, but it's entirely possible to think that both people involved in that altercation were less than stellar human beings.
 
2014-02-15 10:00:34 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: lunging_man_ass: jayhawk88: the8re: Objectivity, how the Fark does it work?

He left his home, armed, chased down followed a suspicious person from a distance, called police, and after the suspicious person attacked him and began pounding Zimmerman's head on pavement, shot and killed a young man who had done nothing more than walk through his yard violently physically assault a man trying to keep the neighborhood safe.

Fark objectivity. He's I'm human garbage.

FTFY, looks like we have another Facebook slacktivist.

I notice that you left out the part where Zimmerman continued to follow the suspicious person after having called the police and was instructed by the dispatcher to not follow said suspicious person and then proceeded to ignore what he was told by the dispatcher.  I wonder why you would leave that part out?  Oh, that's right, because it would conflict with your "Zimmerman was an innocent hero" narrative.

It wouldn't have mattered if Martin had been the size of Terry Crews, had a gun in each hand, and was wearing a "Killing is my business and business is good" t-shirt, Zimmerman should have followed instructions and let the police do their jobs.  Vigilantism has no place outside of b-grade action flicks and NRA members' wet dreams.


The cops are not owners of zimmerman, he can walk and do what he likes. He can follow or not, as long as he does not cross onto private property or assault anyone...

Martin however, does not have the right to assault anyone even if the person is a "creepy cracker" and he dislikes being followed.
 
2014-02-15 10:03:12 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: lunging_man_ass: jayhawk88: the8re: Objectivity, how the Fark does it work?

He left his home, armed, chased down followed a suspicious person from a distance, called police, and after the suspicious person attacked him and began pounding Zimmerman's head on pavement, shot and killed a young man who had done nothing more than walk through his yard violently physically assault a man trying to keep the neighborhood safe.

Fark objectivity. He's I'm human garbage.

FTFY, looks like we have another Facebook slacktivist.

I notice that you left out the part where Zimmerman continued to follow the suspicious person after having called the police and was instructed by the dispatcher to not follow said suspicious person and then proceeded to ignore what he was told by the dispatcher.


Except for the part where dispatchers cannot legally instruct somebody to do anything...
"We don't need you to do that" is not instructions, which would be worded more like "Do not do that". It's the same thing a dispatcher would say in any situation in order to absolve themselves/the department of responsibility should somebody get hurt following their "directions".
 
2014-02-15 10:09:56 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Olo Manolo: How do you ignore the part where the martin walked away, he WENT ELSEWHERE UNHARMED, aka situation over. Then RETURNED to pummel Zimmerman... If you get away from a situation safely, no harm done, then return to the situation aggressively, that is not self defense. That is looking for trouble. But go ahead, tell me more about the perfect little angel who was known for his kindness and compassion that was tracked down for several blocks by a rabid racist and shot in the back for fun...

How do you ignore the part where Zimmerman was told by the police to stop following Martin and he ignored them?  If the police tell you to stop following a suspicious individual, you don't then get to claim you're an innocent victim when you ignore them.

Also, thinking Zimmerman f*cked up and someone died as a direct result ≠ thinking Martin is an angel.  I'm sorry if your binary thinking can't grasp that concept, but it's entirely possible to think that both people involved in that altercation were less than stellar human beings.



So who was it? The dispatchers, or the police, who told him not to said they didn't need him to follow?

Agreed, they could both be shiatheads, quite likely. I apologize for assuming you were on the "poor little tray-tray" side of things..
 
2014-02-15 10:27:06 PM  
www.bitlogic.com
 
2014-02-15 10:31:58 PM  

atomicmask: mrshowrules: cretinbob: [scholarsandrogues.files.wordpress.com image 524x389]

fark.  If that image doesn't say it all, than nothing does. Where I'm from, there are consequences for shooting and killing an unarmed child regardless of the circumstances.

Child, you keep using that word, but I do not think you know what it means. 17 years old is not a child, in 1 year he would have been able to join the military.


black kids seem to age a little faster than white kids, I know
 
2014-02-15 10:48:00 PM  

Olo Manolo: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: lunging_man_ass: jayhawk88: the8re: Objectivity, how the Fark does it work?

He left his home, armed, chased down followed a suspicious person from a distance, called police, and after the suspicious person attacked him and began pounding Zimmerman's head on pavement, shot and killed a young man who had done nothing more than walk through his yard violently physically assault a man trying to keep the neighborhood safe.

Fark objectivity. He's I'm human garbage.

FTFY, looks like we have another Facebook slacktivist.

I notice that you left out the part where Zimmerman continued to follow the suspicious person after having called the police and was instructed by the dispatcher to not follow said suspicious person and then proceeded to ignore what he was told by the dispatcher.

Except for the part where dispatchers cannot legally instruct somebody to do anything...
"We don't need you to do that" is not instructions, which would be worded more like "Do not do that". It's the same thing a dispatcher would say in any situation in order to absolve themselves/the department of responsibility should somebody get hurt following their "directions".


And Zimmerman is the neighborhood watch, his job is to watch and call the police. If he chooses to disobey the dispatcher, he is in part responsible for anything which happens afterwards.
 
gja
2014-02-15 10:53:32 PM  

Electrify: Olo Manolo: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: lunging_man_ass: jayhawk88: the8re: Objectivity, how the Fark does it work?

He left his home, armed, chased down followed a suspicious person from a distance, called police, and after the suspicious person attacked him and began pounding Zimmerman's head on pavement, shot and killed a young man who had done nothing more than walk through his yard violently physically assault a man trying to keep the neighborhood safe.

Fark objectivity. He's I'm human garbage.

FTFY, looks like we have another Facebook slacktivist.

I notice that you left out the part where Zimmerman continued to follow the suspicious person after having called the police and was instructed by the dispatcher to not follow said suspicious person and then proceeded to ignore what he was told by the dispatcher.

Except for the part where dispatchers cannot legally instruct somebody to do anything...
"We don't need you to do that" is not instructions, which would be worded more like "Do not do that". It's the same thing a dispatcher would say in any situation in order to absolve themselves/the department of responsibility should somebody get hurt following their "directions".

And Zimmerman is the neighborhood watch, his job is to watch and call the police. If he chooses to disobey the dispatcher, he is in part responsible for anything which happens afterwards.


Not passing judgement on either of the two involved, but the dispatcher HAS NO AUTHORITY TO DICTATE ACTIONS TO OTHERS.
They dispatch, they do NOT give orders to be followed under penalty of prosecution.
 
2014-02-15 10:55:48 PM  

grimlock1972: the real tragedy of all of this is if Zimmerman had listened to the police dispatcher and not followed the kid no one need have died that night.


Tell you what.. when you bank a bridesmaid at a wedding, tell your wife that if the bridesmaid you banged just stayed with the rest of the wedding party, she never would have tripped and fallen on your dick, and see how far that gets you.
 
2014-02-15 10:59:04 PM  

mrshowrules: atomicmask: mrshowrules: cretinbob: [scholarsandrogues.files.wordpress.com image 524x389]

fark.  If that image doesn't say it all, than nothing does. Where I'm from, there are consequences for shooting and killing an unarmed child regardless of the circumstances.

Child, you keep using that word, but I do not think you know what it means. 17 years old is not a child, in 1 year he would have been able to join the military.

black kids seem to age a little faster than white kids, I know


siextramustard.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-15 10:59:07 PM  

fredklein: No. "Zimmy" should have minded his own damn business and not followed Trayvon around the neighborhood.


Most criminal behavior is, indeed, foiled by someone not minding their own business.  Despite fantasy, it isnt by cops just happening to be driving by.....
 
2014-02-15 11:04:31 PM  

Olo Manolo: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Olo Manolo: Lesson learned.

If you are black, unarmed and somebody that you think is white looks at you for too long follows you around at night without saying anything to you, you should bash their head into the ground, there will be a large group of people that support your decision.

If you see somebody you don't recognize and call the cops to try to keep bad things from happening and then follow them instead of letting the police do their job then get your head bashed in some bruising a small scrape on your forehead then defend yourself with deadly force, be prepared to burn in hell.

Fixed to more accurately represent Zimmerman's own sworn testimony and the physical evidence.

Seriously people, even if every single word of Zimmerman's testimony is the absolute 100% unvarnished truth, Martin died because Zimmerman followed an unarmed teenager at night instead of letting the police do their f*cking jobs.

[www.martinfrost.ws image 474x224]
That's an odd place to put a forehead, right on the back of his head...

How do you ignore the part where the martin walked away, he WENT ELSEWHERE UNHARMED, aka situation over. Then RETURNED to pummel Zimmerman... If you get away from a situation safely, no harm done, then return to the situation aggressively, that is not self defense. That is looking for trouble. But go ahead, tell me more about the perfect little angel who was known for his kindness and compassion that was tracked down for several blocks by a rabid racist and shot in the back for fun...


Let's just ignore that he started it.

/Then pulled out a gun when he was loosing
//You're defending a coward and a bully. DIAF
 
2014-02-15 11:04:56 PM  

gja: Not passing judgement on either of the two involved, but the dispatcher HAS NO AUTHORITY TO DICTATE ACTIONS TO OTHERS.
They dispatch, they do NOT give orders to be followed under penalty of prosecution.


It does matter when it comes to civil litigation. The Neighborhood Watch has no legal authority to dictate your actions either, but go against the training which explicitly tells you not to follow people, and you leave yourself open to civil litigation as having behaved irresponsibly.

The point is that the dispatcher is in a position to know what is the proper course of action. Any mishap then becomes your fault because, well, you had someone in a position to advise you and you ignored that advice.

For example: if I have my concealed-carry instructor with me in my house when an intruder broke in with a machete, and he said to me, "You shouldn't shoot him." The guy has zero authority. But if I fire, that warning is damning if it turns out he wasn't within 24 feet as is required in VA.
 
2014-02-15 11:09:32 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: fredklein: No. "Zimmy" should have minded his own damn business and not followed Trayvon around the neighborhood.

Most criminal behavior is, indeed, foiled by someone not minding their own business.  Despite fantasy, it isnt by cops just happening to be driving by.....


Most criminal behavior is, in fact, stopped by someone calling the police, not someone intervening. If Zimmerman had called police and reported the suspicion and that was it, good on him. Following the kid was stupid and dangerous, as his Neighborhood Watch training indicated.

If he could take back that night, do you think he would? How has his life turned out? And THAT is why you have to be an imbecile to play supercop just because you have a gun on you.
 
2014-02-15 11:10:04 PM  

TheJoe03: I don't like him cause he was such a wannabe cop that the kid died, it all seemed avoidable. Zimmerman wanted to serve vigilante justice and now people hate him. Boo hoo.


Indeed.

What would have happened if Martin just went in the house instead of going back to teach cracker-ass a lesson?  Zimmerman sniffs the footprints and enters the house and shoots everyone?
 
gja
2014-02-15 11:15:11 PM  

vygramul: gja: Not passing judgement on either of the two involved, but the dispatcher HAS NO AUTHORITY TO DICTATE ACTIONS TO OTHERS.
They dispatch, they do NOT give orders to be followed under penalty of prosecution.

It does matter when it comes to civil litigation. The Neighborhood Watch has no legal authority to dictate your actions either, but go against the training which explicitly tells you not to follow people, and you leave yourself open to civil litigation as having behaved irresponsibly.

The point is that the dispatcher is in a position to know what is the proper course of action. Any mishap then becomes your fault because, well, you had someone in a position to advise you and you ignored that advice.

For example: if I have my concealed-carry instructor with me in my house when an intruder broke in with a machete, and he said to me, "You shouldn't shoot him." The guy has zero authority. But if I fire, that warning is damning if it turns out he wasn't within 24 feet as is required in VA.


And that means zero for the Zimm/Tray case because it was not and is not a civil matter.
It was/is a criminal court matter.
That is MY point. The dispatcher has not voice of authority in this type of matter. End of argument.
Had he not heeded an actual officers admonitions and directive this would be a different thing altogether.
But that's just not what happened. SO let's leave what MIGHT have happened out of this and stick to the facts.
 
2014-02-15 11:16:24 PM  
Electrify:
And Zimmerman is the neighborhood watch, his job is to watch and call the police. If he chooses to disobey the dispatcher, he is in part responsible for anything which happens afterwards.

Disobey
:  To refuse to follow an order or rule.

Dispatchers, once again, can not issue orders. They did not issue orders. They said "We don't need you to do that". That is a declarative sentence, not used to issue a command, therefore there was nothing to disobey. Had the dispatcher said "Do not do that" and if they had any legal power whatsoever to make such a command, then I could see where you were coming from. however, outside of those constraints, it just isn't correct.
 
2014-02-15 11:19:02 PM  
vygramul:  If he could take back that night, do you think he would?


No, I honestly don't. I think his only true regret is that the case got national media attention (which forced a trial). I don't think he regrets killing Martin, or any action he took that night that led up to it. I base that on his interview with Sean Hannity where he explicitly said he had no regrets and that it was "God's will."
 
2014-02-15 11:19:17 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: fredklein: No. "Zimmy" should have minded his own damn business and not followed Trayvon around the neighborhood.

Most criminal behavior is, indeed, foiled by someone not minding their own business.  Despite fantasy, it isnt by cops just happening to be driving by.....


Funny how you just assume that Martin was under reasonable suspicion of committing a crime. I wonder why...
 
2014-02-15 11:20:59 PM  

mrshowrules: randomjsa: It's funny to watch the people who were so emotionally invested in the false narrative of 'Evil white man randomly shoots black child' feel 'vindicated' by this.

I never thought Zimmerman was evil/racist or even necessarily white.  I just believe when you shoot and kill an unarmed person (under almost any circumstances) you should go to jail.


Thats why we are glad you are not a judge.
 
2014-02-15 11:23:35 PM  

gja: vygramul: gja: Not passing judgement on either of the two involved, but the dispatcher HAS NO AUTHORITY TO DICTATE ACTIONS TO OTHERS.
They dispatch, they do NOT give orders to be followed under penalty of prosecution.

It does matter when it comes to civil litigation. The Neighborhood Watch has no legal authority to dictate your actions either, but go against the training which explicitly tells you not to follow people, and you leave yourself open to civil litigation as having behaved irresponsibly.

The point is that the dispatcher is in a position to know what is the proper course of action. Any mishap then becomes your fault because, well, you had someone in a position to advise you and you ignored that advice.

For example: if I have my concealed-carry instructor with me in my house when an intruder broke in with a machete, and he said to me, "You shouldn't shoot him." The guy has zero authority. But if I fire, that warning is damning if it turns out he wasn't within 24 feet as is required in VA.

And that means zero for the Zimm/Tray case because it was not and is not a civil matter.
It was/is a criminal court matter.
That is MY point. The dispatcher has not voice of authority in this type of matter. End of argument.
Had he not heeded an actual officers admonitions and directive this would be a different thing altogether.
But that's just not what happened. SO let's leave what MIGHT have happened out of this and stick to the facts.


Prosecutors might consider giving you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't know the possible consequences of your action. It's part of Mens Rea. The dispatcher's warning matters, even in criminal matters. End of argument.
 
2014-02-15 11:23:48 PM  

mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail


Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?
 
2014-02-15 11:24:32 PM  

I Browse: vygramul:  If he could take back that night, do you think he would?


No, I honestly don't. I think his only true regret is that the case got national media attention (which forced a trial). I don't think he regrets killing Martin, or any action he took that night that led up to it. I base that on his interview with Sean Hannity where he explicitly said he had no regrets and that it was "God's will."


Well, what he says when he's still in danger from legal battles is really to be taken with a boulder of salt.
 
gja
2014-02-15 11:24:52 PM  

vygramul: gja: vygramul: gja: Not passing judgement on either of the two involved, but the dispatcher HAS NO AUTHORITY TO DICTATE ACTIONS TO OTHERS.
They dispatch, they do NOT give orders to be followed under penalty of prosecution.

It does matter when it comes to civil litigation. The Neighborhood Watch has no legal authority to dictate your actions either, but go against the training which explicitly tells you not to follow people, and you leave yourself open to civil litigation as having behaved irresponsibly.

The point is that the dispatcher is in a position to know what is the proper course of action. Any mishap then becomes your fault because, well, you had someone in a position to advise you and you ignored that advice.

For example: if I have my concealed-carry instructor with me in my house when an intruder broke in with a machete, and he said to me, "You shouldn't shoot him." The guy has zero authority. But if I fire, that warning is damning if it turns out he wasn't within 24 feet as is required in VA.

And that means zero for the Zimm/Tray case because it was not and is not a civil matter.
It was/is a criminal court matter.
That is MY point. The dispatcher has not voice of authority in this type of matter. End of argument.
Had he not heeded an actual officers admonitions and directive this would be a different thing altogether.
But that's just not what happened. SO let's leave what MIGHT have happened out of this and stick to the facts.

Prosecutors might consider giving you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't know the possible consequences of your action. It's part of Mens Rea. The dispatcher's warning matters, even in criminal matters. End of argument.


Wrong. That was proven here in NY. I will maybe look up the case law for you. But only if I feel like it.
You don't know what you are talking about.
 
2014-02-15 11:26:20 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?


Facts not in evidence. We only have Zimmerman's word that Martin started the fight.
 
2014-02-15 11:27:18 PM  

gja: Wrong. That was proven here in NY. I will maybe look up the case law for you. But only if I feel like it.
You don't know what you are talking about.


I hadn't realized Florida was part of New York.
 
2014-02-15 11:27:36 PM  
Boo.  Farking.  Hoo.
 
2014-02-15 11:28:16 PM  

LoneWolf343: Olo Manolo: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Olo Manolo: Lesson learned.

If you are black, unarmed and somebody that you think is white looks at you for too long follows you around at night without saying anything to you, you should bash their head into the ground, there will be a large group of people that support your decision.

If you see somebody you don't recognize and call the cops to try to keep bad things from happening and then follow them instead of letting the police do their job then get your head bashed in some bruising a small scrape on your forehead then defend yourself with deadly force, be prepared to burn in hell.

Fixed to more accurately represent Zimmerman's own sworn testimony and the physical evidence.

Seriously people, even if every single word of Zimmerman's testimony is the absolute 100% unvarnished truth, Martin died because Zimmerman followed an unarmed teenager at night instead of letting the police do their f*cking jobs.

[www.martinfrost.ws image 474x224]
That's an odd place to put a forehead, right on the back of his head...

How do you ignore the part where the martin walked away, he WENT ELSEWHERE UNHARMED, aka situation over. Then RETURNED to pummel Zimmerman... If you get away from a situation safely, no harm done, then return to the situation aggressively, that is not self defense. That is looking for trouble. But go ahead, tell me more about the perfect little angel who was known for his kindness and compassion that was tracked down for several blocks by a rabid racist and shot in the back for fun...

Let's just ignore that he started it.

/Then pulled out a gun when he was loosing
//You're defending a coward and a bully. DIAF



TM:  "Mommy! Georgie is looking at me!" **punch**

Mom: "Well why did you hit him?"

TM: "He started it! He looked at me!"

/Yes, that is exactly what you are saying; he started the fight by looking at him
//And you are defending a thug with a history of violence and drug use.
/// wont tell you to "DIAF" because being a person who can think logically/reasonably, I generally don't wish death on people for having an opinion that differs from mine.
 
2014-02-15 11:29:31 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?


Walking down the sidewalk is a crime worth of stalking and confrontation?
 
gja
2014-02-15 11:33:45 PM  

vygramul: gja: Wrong. That was proven here in NY. I will maybe look up the case law for you. But only if I feel like it.
You don't know what you are talking about.

I hadn't realized Florida was part of New York.


It's called PRECEDENT, my friend. It has a way of showing up and biting you in the ass when you don't do your due diligence and research.
Law can be a pain in the ass that way. Same reason I spend so much goddamned time going over so many points in some of the electronic forensics cases I get deposed in. It's why when they legal teams make a funny face when I give them my rates I don't feel bad charging so much.
They must think I frigging enjoy going half-blind reading that crap.
 
2014-02-15 11:36:47 PM  
vygramul:

Well, what he says when he's still in danger from legal battles is really to be taken with a boulder of salt.


Fair point. That said...I still don't think he has even a shred of regret about killing Martin, or the decisions he made that led up to it. And I base that on his actions since the trial. Touring the Kel-Tec factory and posing for a picture with a worker there...this celebrity boxing stunt.
 
2014-02-15 11:38:30 PM  

vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: fredklein: No. "Zimmy" should have minded his own damn business and not followed Trayvon around the neighborhood.

Most criminal behavior is, indeed, foiled by someone not minding their own business.  Despite fantasy, it isnt by cops just happening to be driving by.....

Most criminal behavior is, in fact, stopped by someone calling the police, not someone intervening. If Zimmerman had called police and reported the suspicion and that was it, good on him. Following the kid was stupid and dangerous, as his Neighborhood Watch training indicated.

If he could take back that night, do you think he would? How has his life turned out? And THAT is why you have to be an imbecile to play supercop just because you have a gun on you.


Zimmerman didn't intervene.  He stopped nothing.   He simply followed the young chap until the police told him not to do so.

You are inserting an awful lot of omniscience in there with your assertion that his behavior is caused by him having a gun.  Plenty of people do unrecommended/unwise things all the time.  He simply happened to be carrying.  This forethought likely saved him from further damage after someone tried to teach him a lesson.
 
gja
2014-02-15 11:39:46 PM  

I Browse: vygramul:

Well, what he says when he's still in danger from legal battles is really to be taken with a boulder of salt.


Fair point. That said...I still don't think he has even a shred of regret about killing Martin, or the decisions he made that led up to it. And I base that on his actions since the trial. Touring the Kel-Tec factory and posing for a picture with a worker there...this celebrity boxing stunt.


That and other reasons are why while I feel badly if it is true he is now homeless, I cannot muster any sympathy for his string of demonstrably poor choices in life. Cry me a river.
 
2014-02-15 11:39:53 PM  
McWhorter said that Jeantel was "articulate, just in a different kind of English than mainstream English."
He then defended Martin's use of the word "cracker" to describe Zimmerman, ...
"Of course he might refer to the person as a cracker because he's a human being," added McWhorter, who is black. "I think we can understand that cracker may have been an appropriate term at the time."
 
2014-02-15 11:40:02 PM  
LoneWolf343:
Funny how you just assume that Martin was under reasonable suspicion of committing a crime. I wonder why...

Here's an idea; because he was wondering around between houses, looking around like he was inebriated, in a place where he wasn't recognized as a resident?

Oh, sorry, I forgot... It's those damned dirty racists!
 
2014-02-15 11:45:05 PM  

randomjsa: It's funny to watch the people who were so emotionally invested in the false narrative of 'Evil white man randomly shoots black child' feel 'vindicated' by this.


They're still waiting for their OJ prize.
 
2014-02-15 11:45:08 PM  

atomicmask: apparently the social justice brigades hate us cause we enjoy strait sex.


www.barrystickets.com

/who doesn't?
 
2014-02-15 11:45:19 PM  

vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Facts not in evidence. We only have Zimmerman's word that Martin started the fight.



Zimmerman asked for the beating, apparently, because he chose to walk down the sidewalk at an unapproved time.
 
2014-02-15 11:46:32 PM  

gja: vygramul: gja: Wrong. That was proven here in NY. I will maybe look up the case law for you. But only if I feel like it.
You don't know what you are talking about.

I hadn't realized Florida was part of New York.

It's called PRECEDENT, my friend. It has a way of showing up and biting you in the ass when you don't do your due diligence and research.
Law can be a pain in the ass that way. Same reason I spend so much goddamned time going over so many points in some of the electronic forensics cases I get deposed in. It's why when they legal teams make a funny face when I give them my rates I don't feel bad charging so much.
They must think I frigging enjoy going half-blind reading that crap.


I wasn't aware that precedent in a different jurisdiction with different laws was all that useful.
 
2014-02-15 11:47:10 PM  

I Browse: vygramul:

Well, what he says when he's still in danger from legal battles is really to be taken with a boulder of salt.


Fair point. That said...I still don't think he has even a shred of regret about killing Martin, or the decisions he made that led up to it. And I base that on his actions since the trial. Touring the Kel-Tec factory and posing for a picture with a worker there...this celebrity boxing stunt.


Well, yes, his judgment seems to be decidedly lacking.
 
2014-02-15 11:48:30 PM  
Trolls within trolls within trolls.

This site and the troll trash it links to, and the trolls it encourages, is too much lately.

DIAF Drew. Your site sucks.
 
2014-02-15 11:49:16 PM  

twiztedjustin: WOW

Anyone associated with that website needs to be forced into watching their mother be raped.


That's.....a little extreme, not going to lie.
 
2014-02-15 11:50:17 PM  

LoneWolf343: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime worth of stalking and confrontation?


While he was on the phone with the cops.

Most stalkers, when committing crimes, do not do it so police can conveniently record their behavior.

He might be an exceptional stalker, though.


I'll comment that zimmerman was told the police didnt need him to follow him and zimmerman said 'ok'

Martin, he went home and turned back to teach cracker ass a lesson.    So did Martin stalk zimmerman and confront him?


you guys and your 'stalk'....
 
2014-02-15 11:54:21 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: Zimmerman didn't intervene.  He stopped nothing.   He simply followed the young chap until the police told him not to do so.

You are inserting an awful lot of omniscience in there with your assertion that his behavior is caused by him having a gun.  Plenty of people do unrecommended/unwise things all the time.  He simply happened to be carrying.  This forethought likely saved him from further damage after someone tried to teach him a lesson.


You're right, he stopped nothing. Despite following Martin. His Neighborhood Watch training was explicit in deprecating leaving the car to see where Martin went. Had he not done so, no crime would have been committed, and no one would have gotten their ass kicked and no one would be dead.
 
2014-02-15 11:55:11 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Facts not in evidence. We only have Zimmerman's word that Martin started the fight.


Zimmerman asked for the beating, apparently, because he chose to walk down the sidewalk at an unapproved time.


Martin asked for a beating followed by a shooting, apparently, because he chose to walk down the sidewalk at an unapproved time.
 
gja
2014-02-15 11:55:27 PM  

vygramul: gja: vygramul: gja: Wrong. That was proven here in NY. I will maybe look up the case law for you. But only if I feel like it.
You don't know what you are talking about.

I hadn't realized Florida was part of New York.

It's called PRECEDENT, my friend. It has a way of showing up and biting you in the ass when you don't do your due diligence and research.
Law can be a pain in the ass that way. Same reason I spend so much goddamned time going over so many points in some of the electronic forensics cases I get deposed in. It's why when they legal teams make a funny face when I give them my rates I don't feel bad charging so much.
They must think I frigging enjoy going half-blind reading that crap.

I wasn't aware that precedent in a different jurisdiction with different laws was all that useful.


With lawyers involved the color of underwear can be argued to be relevant. When I am done dealing with them I usually need to take a long shower with Lysol to remove the stench from being in such close proximity to such massive piles of bullcrap.

More to the point, in case law is ALWAYS useful. Link is a clarification of mandatory v. persuasive .
 
2014-02-15 11:56:34 PM  

vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Facts not in evidence. We only have Zimmerman's word that Martin started the fight.


That and the witnesses...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-beaten-prosecution-witness es /story?id=19517236

But I mean keep denying facts and making up the "sweet black baby" story you keep grasping at.
 
2014-02-15 11:57:51 PM  
Damn there is a lot of stupid in the world.
 
2014-02-15 11:58:37 PM  

mrshowrules: Farker Soze: Damn.  Who says only Repubs are spiteful vindictive douches?

Were you glad that OJ ended up in jail?


Actually, no.  It was nothing more than a feel-good bone-throw to everyone because they couldn't get him the first time.
 
2014-02-15 11:59:45 PM  

LoneWolf343: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime worth of stalking and confrontation?


with a bulllet!
 
2014-02-16 12:02:10 AM  
Zimmerman: self defense.
Dunn: hate crime.
 
2014-02-16 12:03:05 AM  
vygramul:

You're right, he stopped nothing. Despite following Martin. His Neighborhood Watch training was explicit in deprecating leaving the car to see where Martin went. Had he not done so, no crime would have been committed, and no one would have gotten their ass kicked and no one would be dead.

How can you say that with such confidence? You claim to know how the night would have played out minus the mart/zim interaction?  I am certainly jealous of your omniscience.
 
2014-02-16 12:03:06 AM  

duffblue: Lot of forensic investigators butthurt racists here apparently.

 
2014-02-16 12:04:47 AM  

atomicmask: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Facts not in evidence. We only have Zimmerman's word that Martin started the fight.

That and the witnesses...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-beaten-prosecution-witness es /story?id=19517236

But I mean keep denying facts and making up the "sweet black baby" story you keep grasping at.


Just because he lost the fight didn't mean he didn't start it. The witnesses don't help establish who started it.

But I mean keep asserting facts for which you have no evidence and make up the "well-meaning good-guy" story you keep grasping at.
 
2014-02-16 12:05:16 AM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Olo Manolo: Lesson learned.

If you are black, unarmed and somebody that you think is white looks at you for too long follows you around at night without saying anything to you, you should bash their head into the ground, there will be a large group of people that support your decision.

If you see somebody you don't recognize and call the cops to try to keep bad things from happening and then follow them instead of letting the police do their job then get your head bashed in some bruising a small scrape on your forehead then defend yourself with deadly force, be prepared to burn in hell.

Fixed to more accurately represent Zimmerman's own sworn testimony and the physical evidence.

Seriously people, even if every single word of Zimmerman's testimony is the absolute 100% unvarnished truth, Martin died because Zimmerman followed an unarmed teenager at night instead of letting the police do their f*cking jobs.


I always get a kick out of the people that say "well GZ shouldn't have been there....      Neither should TM.   There was 3-4 minutes from when GZ lost sight of him and when the attack happened.  He was 300' from his house.  He could have been there in 20 seconds.    He didn't go home....  why not?   TM should not have been there... and if he just went home he would be alive.

Also, people think that GZ's injuries weren't bad enough for him to have used deadly force.  What these geniuses don't understand is THERE DOESN"T HAVE TO BE -ANY- INJURY IN SOME CASES TO EMPLOY DEADLY FORCE.

You don't have to be injured or killed to defend yourself.   If someone has the means, the intent, and immediately could do harm to you, you can legally kill them before they do anything.
 
2014-02-16 12:07:02 AM  

Olo Manolo: vygramul:

You're right, he stopped nothing. Despite following Martin. His Neighborhood Watch training was explicit in deprecating leaving the car to see where Martin went. Had he not done so, no crime would have been committed, and no one would have gotten their ass kicked and no one would be dead.

How can you say that with such confidence? You claim to know how the night would have played out minus the mart/zim interaction?  I am certainly jealous of your omniscience.


So Zimmerman was innocently walking down the street but Martin was guiltily walking down the street? It's ok to assume innocent intent on the part of Zimmerman but not Martin?

Who's the omniscient one who gets to differentiate between the two?
 
2014-02-16 12:16:21 AM  

atomicmask: http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/23/justice/florida-zimmerman-defense/

Was suspended 3 times for dealing drugs and doing them at school.


That link does not back up that statement. "Items taken from Trayvon Martin's cell phone -- including a text-message discussion of drug use and pictures of a gun and marijuana plants". Nothing about school, nothing about suspension, nothing about any real evidence of drug use.

Other articles (like http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Trayvon-Martin-Suspended-From-School-Thre e-Times-Report-144403305.html) do indeed mention that he was "suspended three times in a series of incidents that included getting caught spraying graffiti and carrying an empty baggie with traces of marijuana"..."Martin's third suspension was for tardiness and truancy". So, ONE suspension had to do with drugs, and only barely.

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/florida/features/2013/oh_florida/ tr ayvon_martin_creepy_ass_cracker_what_cracker_means_in_florida.html

Called Zimmerman a "creepy ass cracker" went home, turned around and came out side to "whip his ass"


Sorry, again, not supported by actual evidence. Rachel Jeantel actually said that ""I called him back. I asked him where he was," she recounted. He told her that he was nearly back at this father's fiancée's house in Sanford." [Emphasis added]. Considering he had walked a mile or so back from the store, being a few hundred feet away from home would easily be considered "nearly" home. So, there is basically NO evidence that Trayvon "went home, turned around" and came back.

To the contrary, it was Zimmerman who was looking for Trayvon. From the Timeline:

7:11:33 - Zimmerman tells the police dispatcher that Trayvon Martin is running.

7:11:59 - In reply to the dispatcher's question, "Are you following him?" Zimmerman responds with, "Yes." Dispatcher: "OK, we don't need you to do that." Zimmerman: "OK."

...

7:16:11 - First 911 call from witness about a fight, calls for help heard.


Note that it only took Zimmerman about 30 seconds to get from his car (he exited the car when he told the police Trayvon was running), to the point where he was told "We don't need you to [follow Trayvon]", and acknowledged it with "okay". So, it should only have taken him 30 seconds to get back to his vehicle. Yet, Over 4 MINUTES later, he was still in back of the buildings, in a fight with Trayvon. Why? Because he DIDN'T head back to his vehicle, he kept looking for Trayvon!

Also, check out http://viewfromll2.com/2012/04/05/minute-by-minute-timeline-of-trayvon -martins-death/ , which has this:

7:14pm: There is approximately a one minute, thirty second period for which we have very little information about what occurred, from around 17:14:00 until 17:15:30. Zimmerman apparently keeps searching for Trayvon during this time period, and phone records show that Trayvon is still on the phone with DeeDee. Also during this period of time, neither party moves particularly far from their estimated locations at 7:13:00pm; it appears that they were either (1) walking extremely slowly, (2) had stopped somewhere before resuming movement, or (3) were taking non-direct paths. It's possible that Trayvon, like Zimmerman when he refused to give his house number out, was worried about the stalker following him home and figuring out where he lived, so Trayvon did not run straight back, instead feinting one way before looping back around. Another possibility is that Trayvon, thinking he'd lost Zimmerman, was dawdling on his walk back home in order to finish his phone call with DeeDee - possibly because Trayvon, like most 17 year olds, generally prefers to have his phone calls with his significant other out of ear shot of his parents. [emphasis added]

Maybe you should read a bit.

Indeed. Thinking helps, too.
 
2014-02-16 12:17:47 AM  
Who knows, if this continually get worse for old George he could consider suicide or maybe go on a spree killing and then commit suicide, or go on a spree killing and not commit suicide, or go on a spree killing and get killed, or....

The possibilities are endless.
 
2014-02-16 12:18:47 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: fredklein: No. "Zimmy" should have minded his own damn business and not followed Trayvon around the neighborhood.

Most criminal behavior is, indeed, foiled by someone not minding their own business.  Despite fantasy, it isnt by cops just happening to be driving by.....


So, um, exactly what crime was Trayvon committing? Walking While Black?
 
2014-02-16 12:23:26 AM  

fredklein: Nutsac_Jim: fredklein: No. "Zimmy" should have minded his own damn business and not followed Trayvon around the neighborhood.

Most criminal behavior is, indeed, foiled by someone not minding their own business.  Despite fantasy, it isnt by cops just happening to be driving by.....

So, um, exactly what crime was Trayvon committing? Walking While Black?


For some reason, we're allowed to speculate all kinds of nasty things about Martin because he is dead, and we're allowed to take Zimmerman at his word because he said so. The rational position is to admit not knowing who started the fight. But people aren't comfortable with that because it introduces doubt that would require ignoring substantial cognitive dissonance to continue to take sides.

And this isn't just the Zimmerman people.
 
2014-02-16 12:26:06 AM  

vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: Zimmerman didn't intervene.  He stopped nothing.   He simply followed the young chap until the police told him not to do so.

You are inserting an awful lot of omniscience in there with your assertion that his behavior is caused by him having a gun.  Plenty of people do unrecommended/unwise things all the time.  He simply happened to be carrying.  This forethought likely saved him from further damage after someone tried to teach him a lesson.

You're right, he stopped nothing. Despite following Martin. His Neighborhood Watch training was explicit in deprecating leaving the car to see where Martin went. Had he not done so, no crime would have been committed, and no one would have gotten their ass kicked and no one would be dead.


So basically, if zimmerman didnt walk around in a shirt and fark me pumps, he wouldnt have been there to rape.  I think you are right.  Rape is a woman's fault.
 
2014-02-16 12:27:42 AM  

vygramul: Olo Manolo: vygramul:

You're right, he stopped nothing. Despite following Martin. His Neighborhood Watch training was explicit in deprecating leaving the car to see where Martin went. Had he not done so, no crime would have been committed, and no one would have gotten their ass kicked and no one would be dead.

How can you say that with such confidence? You claim to know how the night would have played out minus the mart/zim interaction?  I am certainly jealous of your omniscience.

So Zimmerman was innocently walking down the street but Martin was guiltily walking down the street? It's ok to assume innocent intent on the part of Zimmerman but not Martin?

Who's the omniscient one who gets to differentiate between the two?


You know what omniscient means, right??  Had I stated "Yes, crimes definitely would have occured that night if zimmerman hadn't been involved" then your "nuh uh! you are!" statement might not have made you look like a whiney child with less than awesome comprehension skills. Instead, however, I was simply questioning how you could definitively know the alternate outcome of a situation that you presumably had nothing to do with in the first place. I claimed no knowledge, just questioned yours.

You, on the other hand, claimed that "No laws would have been broken that night" which is quite clearly something you have no possible way of knowing. (but if you do, please tell me. I want to know your secrets, it's not fair for you to keep them bottled up like that)
 
2014-02-16 12:29:05 AM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Olo Manolo: How do you ignore the part where the martin walked away, he WENT ELSEWHERE UNHARMED, aka situation over. Then RETURNED to pummel Zimmerman... If you get away from a situation safely, no harm done, then return to the situation aggressively, that is not self defense. That is looking for trouble. But go ahead, tell me more about the perfect little angel who was known for his kindness and compassion that was tracked down for several blocks by a rabid racist and shot in the back for fun...

How do you ignore the part where Zimmerman was told by the police to stop following Martin and he ignored them?  If the police tell you to stop following a suspicious individual, you don't then get to claim you're an innocent victim when you ignore them.

Also, thinking Zimmerman f*cked up and someone died as a direct result ≠ thinking Martin is an angel.  I'm sorry if your binary thinking can't grasp that concept, but it's entirely possible to think that both people involved in that altercation were less than stellar human beings.


Can you illustrate where he was "told by the police"?   As I understand it, he was talking to a 911 operator.  NOT a 911 dispatcher, and NOT the police.  The operator is similar to a call center.  Like the ones you call to change your auto-insurance policy.  They have no authority to issue orders.  Furthermore he did not ever order GZ to "stop following" and he also testified in court (the actual operator on the phone) that his "sir we don't need you to do that" was not about ordering zimmerman back to his vehicle, but was about LIABILITY FOR THE POLICE DEPT.  This was part of the court testimony, which you OBVIOUSLY know NOTHING about.

When you're going to debate and argue something it often is a good idea TO KNOW WHAT THE FARK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
 
2014-02-16 12:30:19 AM  

vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Facts not in evidence. We only have Zimmerman's word that Martin started the fight.


Zimmerman asked for the beating, apparently, because he chose to walk down the sidewalk at an unapproved time.

Martin asked for a beating followed by a shooting, apparently, because he chose to walk down the sidewalk at an unapproved time.


Martin got a beating?    He did get a shooting, deservedly.

Most men don't like to be mounted.  Martin chose the wrong man to mount.
 
2014-02-16 12:33:39 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: grimlock1972: the real tragedy of all of this is if Zimmerman had listened to the police dispatcher and not followed the kid no one need have died that night.

Tell you what.. when you bank a bridesmaid at a wedding, tell your wife that if the bridesmaid you banged just stayed with the rest of the wedding party, she never would have tripped and fallen on your dick, and see how far that gets you.


Dude WTF?

There is no arguing the fact if Zimmerman had not followed the kid he would not found himself in a situation where he would have afraid for his life.
 
2014-02-16 12:34:02 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: LoneWolf343: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime worth of stalking and confrontation?

While he was on the phone with the cops.

Most stalkers, when committing crimes, do not do it so police can conveniently record their behavior.

He might be an exceptional stalker, though.


I'll comment that zimmerman was told the police didnt need him to follow him and zimmerman said 'ok'

Martin, he went home and turned back to teach cracker ass a lesson.    So did Martin stalk zimmerman and confront him?


you guys and your 'stalk'....


"An exceptionally dumb one" is an assessment I doubt any reasonable person could argue with. Still, he got away with stalking, engaging, and killing an unarmed boy, so maybe he knows something that I wouldn't have in that situation, probably having something do with racial politics...
 
2014-02-16 12:34:58 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: Zimmerman didn't intervene.  He stopped nothing.   He simply followed the young chap until the police told him not to do so.

You are inserting an awful lot of omniscience in there with your assertion that his behavior is caused by him having a gun.  Plenty of people do unrecommended/unwise things all the time.  He simply happened to be carrying.  This forethought likely saved him from further damage after someone tried to teach him a lesson.

You're right, he stopped nothing. Despite following Martin. His Neighborhood Watch training was explicit in deprecating leaving the car to see where Martin went. Had he not done so, no crime would have been committed, and no one would have gotten their ass kicked and no one would be dead.

So basically, if zimmerman didnt walk around in a shirt and fark me pumps, he wouldnt have been there to rape.  I think you are right.  Rape is a woman's fault.



If you're trying to use the analogy of Zimmerman as a rape victim, you may want to entertain the fact that most rape victims don't stop and stare at potential rapists and then start walking after them.
 
2014-02-16 12:36:19 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: TheJoe03: I don't like him cause he was such a wannabe cop that the kid died, it all seemed avoidable. Zimmerman wanted to serve vigilante justice and now people hate him. Boo hoo.

Indeed.

What would have happened if Martin just went in the house instead of going back to teach cracker-ass a lesson?  Zimmerman sniffs the footprints and enters the house and shoots everyone?


Calm down angry white guy.
 
2014-02-16 12:37:42 AM  

vygramul: atomicmask: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Facts not in evidence. We only have Zimmerman's word that Martin started the fight.

That and the witnesses...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-beaten-prosecution-witness es /story?id=19517236

But I mean keep denying facts and making up the "sweet black baby" story you keep grasping at.

Just because he lost the fight didn't mean he didn't start it.


Gotcha.  It could have been aliens too.


It doesnt really matter if martin started it or zimmerman started it.

You just dont get on top of a guy and mount them.  That was Martins mistake.

Martin should just have walked up and said "You want some of this <POW> " and knocked fatty to the ground.  Then Martin runs off,   having proven his superiority.  For fun, and insults, he can yell "Im going to go give some more to your momma "

But he didn't.

Zimmerman made a bad choice.  Martin made a bad choice.  Martin just needed to realize that he isnt the only one that has a gun.
 
2014-02-16 12:38:02 AM  
Nutsac_Jim:

Most men don't like to be mounted.

Speak for yourself, cowboy...
 
2014-02-16 12:40:02 AM  

Thunderpipes: SilentStrider: clancifer: I wonder if he has begun to regret his little vigilante hunt & kill episode.

doubtful. more likely he's blaming it on the bleeding heart libs.

It is your fault. You make criminals like Traypack, defend them. He did a heroic deed. Hopefully he sues the media. NBC or ABC, whoever it was that doctored 911 call on national TV is up crap creek.

George is a national Stormfront.org hero.


Fixed that for you.
 
2014-02-16 12:40:54 AM  

grimlock1972: Nutsac_Jim: grimlock1972: the real tragedy of all of this is if Zimmerman had listened to the police dispatcher and not followed the kid no one need have died that night.

Tell you what.. when you bank a bridesmaid at a wedding, tell your wife that if the bridesmaid you banged just stayed with the rest of the wedding party, she never would have tripped and fallen on your dick, and see how far that gets you.

Dude WTF?

There is no arguing the fact if Zimmerman had not followed the kid he would not found himself in a situation where he would have afraid for his life.


Of course one can.  Idiots do this all the time.   They pick one event.   Then pick a later event.  They then ignore 1,000 other events in between and conclude that one even resulted in the next.
 
2014-02-16 12:41:19 AM  

grimlock1972: Nutsac_Jim: grimlock1972: the real tragedy of all of this is if Zimmerman had listened to the police dispatcher and not followed the kid no one need have died that night.

Tell you what.. when you bank a bridesmaid at a wedding, tell your wife that if the bridesmaid you banged just stayed with the rest of the wedding party, she never would have tripped and fallen on your dick, and see how far that gets you.

Dude WTF?

There is no arguing the fact if Zimmerman had not followed the kid he would not found himself in a situation where he would have afraid for his life.



Well then there is no arguing the fact that if TM had just gone home when he had 3-4 min to cover a mere 100 or so yards, he would not have found himself in a situation where he had an onset of accute lead poisoning.
 
2014-02-16 12:42:00 AM  

TheJoe03: Nutsac_Jim: TheJoe03: I don't like him cause he was such a wannabe cop that the kid died, it all seemed avoidable. Zimmerman wanted to serve vigilante justice and now people hate him. Boo hoo.

Indeed.

What would have happened if Martin just went in the house instead of going back to teach cracker-ass a lesson?  Zimmerman sniffs the footprints and enters the house and shoots everyone?

Calm down angry white guy.


Sorry mister racist.
 
2014-02-16 12:42:08 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: Zimmerman didn't intervene.  He stopped nothing.   He simply followed the young chap until the police told him not to do so.

You are inserting an awful lot of omniscience in there with your assertion that his behavior is caused by him having a gun.  Plenty of people do unrecommended/unwise things all the time.  He simply happened to be carrying.  This forethought likely saved him from further damage after someone tried to teach him a lesson.

You're right, he stopped nothing. Despite following Martin. His Neighborhood Watch training was explicit in deprecating leaving the car to see where Martin went. Had he not done so, no crime would have been committed, and no one would have gotten their ass kicked and no one would be dead.

So basically, if zimmerman didnt walk around in a shirt and fark me pumps, he wouldnt have been there to rape.  I think you are right.  Rape is a woman's fault.


Your argument continues to rely on speculation and not the proven facts of the case.
 
2014-02-16 12:42:58 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: TheJoe03: Nutsac_Jim: TheJoe03: I don't like him cause he was such a wannabe cop that the kid died, it all seemed avoidable. Zimmerman wanted to serve vigilante justice and now people hate him. Boo hoo.

Indeed.

What would have happened if Martin just went in the house instead of going back to teach cracker-ass a lesson?  Zimmerman sniffs the footprints and enters the house and shoots everyone?

Calm down angry white guy.

Sorry mister racist.


How exactly am I racist? Are you projecting?
 
2014-02-16 12:43:50 AM  

atomicmask: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Facts not in evidence. We only have Zimmerman's word that Martin started the fight.

That and the witnesses...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-beaten-prosecution-witness es /story?id=19517236

But I mean keep denying facts and making up the "sweet black baby" story you keep grasping at.


Um, Nope. Read the very first paragraph in the linked article:

"Two witnesses called by the prosecution today described George Zimmerman as being on the losing end of a fight with Trayvon Martin in the moments before Zimmerman shot the Florida teenager. "

There is nothing there about who STARTED the fight, just who was losing it later. For all we know, Zimmerman could have jumped Trayvon. Or Trayvon could have jumped Zimmerman. We don't know for sure.

But... we can make an educated guess by looking at their behaviors before the confrontation. Let's call them "A" and "B".

A was suspicious of B for no reason other than B was "just walking around, looking about." I mean, how DARE a black kid be in themy neighborhood. Walking and looking around! Isn't it the law that blacks are to stare at their feet as they walk?

A made the comment that "These assholes they always get away", in reference to B. So, he already lumped B in with criminals who 'get away', which shows he was already biased against B, for no reason except he was black.

A decides to get out of his vehicle and continue to follow B, despite being told this was not necessary. Thus proving he wanted to confront B- He didn't "need" to follow him, he wanted to follow him!

A continues to hunt for B for several minutes, instead of returning to his vehicle.

A was armed.

On the other hand...

B was minding his own business, just trying to get home, when he was followed by A.

B tried to get away from A, leaving the road and going behind the buildings. Only to have A follow him on foot.

B expressed that A was "creepy" -"causing an unpleasant feeling of fear or unease." He was AFRAID of A.

B was unarmed.

Now, looking at that, who is the most likely to start a confrontation- the biased, armed guy wanting to find and confront the other, or the fearful guy trying to get away?
 
2014-02-16 12:45:08 AM  

Olo Manolo: vygramul: Olo Manolo: vygramul:

You're right, he stopped nothing. Despite following Martin. His Neighborhood Watch training was explicit in deprecating leaving the car to see where Martin went. Had he not done so, no crime would have been committed, and no one would have gotten their ass kicked and no one would be dead.

How can you say that with such confidence? You claim to know how the night would have played out minus the mart/zim interaction?  I am certainly jealous of your omniscience.

So Zimmerman was innocently walking down the street but Martin was guiltily walking down the street? It's ok to assume innocent intent on the part of Zimmerman but not Martin?

Who's the omniscient one who gets to differentiate between the two?

You know what omniscient means, right??  Had I stated "Yes, crimes definitely would have occured that night if zimmerman hadn't been involved" then your "nuh uh! you are!" statement might not have made you look like a whiney child with less than awesome comprehension skills. Instead, however, I was simply questioning how you could definitively know the alternate outcome of a situation that you presumably had nothing to do with in the first place. I claimed no knowledge, just questioned yours.

You, on the other hand, claimed that "No laws would have been broken that night" which is quite clearly something you have no possible way of knowing. (but if you do, please tell me. I want to know your secrets, it's not fair for you to keep them bottled up like that)


That's true. For all we know, Zimmerman might have broken into the Martin home and killed everyone there. We have no way of knowing for sure.
 
2014-02-16 12:45:27 AM  

CygnusDarius: Well, he better hope he wins that boxing match.


He has plenty of boxing and MMA experience for years and it not like it is a dangerous 90lb kid coming after him this time.
 
2014-02-16 12:46:34 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Facts not in evidence. We only have Zimmerman's word that Martin started the fight.


Zimmerman asked for the beating, apparently, because he chose to walk down the sidewalk at an unapproved time.

Martin asked for a beating followed by a shooting, apparently, because he chose to walk down the sidewalk at an unapproved time.

Martin got a beating?    He did get a shooting, deservedly.

Most men don't like to be mounted.  Martin chose the wrong man to mount.


Zimmerman picked the wrong guy to sucker-punch and then had to rely on his weapon to get him out of trouble.

I mean, so long as we're engaging in baseless speculation about who started the fight, mine's as good as yours.
 
2014-02-16 12:47:33 AM  

stoli n coke: If you're trying to use the analogy of Zimmerman as a rape victim, you may want to entertain the fact that most rape victims don't stop and stare at potential rapists and then start walking after them.


Were they walking alone in an unlit street or not.   did people tell them not to do that?  It is their fault.  They have no right to walk on the public street.  Certainly, they deserve it if they are talking on the phone with the cops at the time.  That is obvious they were looking for it.
 
2014-02-16 12:49:09 AM  

TheJoe03: Nutsac_Jim: TheJoe03: Nutsac_Jim: TheJoe03: I don't like him cause he was such a wannabe cop that the kid died, it all seemed avoidable. Zimmerman wanted to serve vigilante justice and now people hate him. Boo hoo.

Indeed.

What would have happened if Martin just went in the house instead of going back to teach cracker-ass a lesson?  Zimmerman sniffs the footprints and enters the house and shoots everyone?

Calm down angry white guy.

Sorry mister racist.

How exactly am I racist? Are you projecting?


Look at that. you cuss so much around the kids you even deny you say it after the kid says 'daddy said fark' and your wife glares at you.
 
2014-02-16 12:49:36 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: vygramul: atomicmask: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Facts not in evidence. We only have Zimmerman's word that Martin started the fight.

That and the witnesses...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-beaten-prosecution-witness es /story?id=19517236

But I mean keep denying facts and making up the "sweet black baby" story you keep grasping at.

Just because he lost the fight didn't mean he didn't start it.

Gotcha.  It could have been aliens too.


It doesnt really matter if martin started it or zimmerman started it.

You just dont get on top of a guy and mount them.  That was Martins mistake.

Martin should just have walked up and said "You want some of this <POW> " and knocked fatty to the ground.  Then Martin runs off,   having proven his superiority.  For fun, and insults, he can yell "Im going to go give some more to your momma "

But he didn't.

Zimmerman made a bad choice.  Martin made a bad choice.  Martin just needed to realize that he isnt the only one that has a gun.


Well, it certainly matters who started it if you're going to make assertions as to Zimmerman's innocently walking down the path.

But, yes, Martin certainly wasn't going to win that fight.
 
2014-02-16 12:50:54 AM  

vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: Zimmerman didn't intervene.  He stopped nothing.   He simply followed the young chap until the police told him not to do so.

You are inserting an awful lot of omniscience in there with your assertion that his behavior is caused by him having a gun.  Plenty of people do unrecommended/unwise things all the time.  He simply happened to be carrying.  This forethought likely saved him from further damage after someone tried to teach him a lesson.

You're right, he stopped nothing. Despite following Martin. His Neighborhood Watch training was explicit in deprecating leaving the car to see where Martin went. Had he not done so, no crime would have been committed, and no one would have gotten their ass kicked and no one would be dead.

So basically, if zimmerman didnt walk around in a shirt and fark me pumps, he wouldnt have been there to rape.  I think you are right.  Rape is a woman's fault.

Your argument continues to rely on speculation and not the proven facts of the case.


Let me get this straight, you are telling us what *would* have happened, and the one speculating is me?  HAHAHAHAH
 
2014-02-16 12:53:06 AM  

Mr.BobDobalita: I always get a kick out of the people that say "well GZ shouldn't have been there.... Neither should TM. There was 3-4 minutes from when GZ lost sight of him and when the attack happened. He was 300' from his house. He could have been there in 20 seconds. He didn't go home.... why not? TM should not have been there... and if he just went home he would be alive.


He was probably hiding. When talking to 911, Zimmerman didn't want to say out loud what his address was, for fear that Trayvon might hear. (Which goes to show he already considered Trayvon to be a criminal, BTW). Is it that unbelievable that Trayvon didn't want to walk directly home, thus showing the "creepy" armed guy following him right where he lived? It's more likely he simply hid. And Zimmerman, even after acknowledging to 911 that he didn't 'need' to find Trayvon, kept looking until he found him. Trayvon, having his hiding place discovered by the armed nutter following him, feared for his life... and we know the rest.

Call it 'unproven'. Call it 'unsubstantiated'. Call it 'fantasy'. But it still fits the evidence, and explains several things that other theories don't.
 
2014-02-16 12:56:06 AM  

Mr.BobDobalita: As I understand it, he was talking to a 911 operator. NOT a 911 dispatcher, and NOT the police.


"911" is generally considered to be "the police". You are nitpicking.
 
2014-02-16 12:57:25 AM  

vygramul: Well, it certainly matters who started it if you're going to make assertions as to Zimmerman's innocently walking down the path.

But, yes, Martin certainly wasn't going to win that fight.


You mean walking down the path... while on the phone with the police?

Yes, he went to go hunt himself a kid while carrying an evidence producing phone.  Every killer does that.  It is Stalk101.


It doesn't matter.   Martin lost him and went home.

Maverick reengaged later though.  Fatty told us so.


Martin should have just declared victory and laughed at fatty on the ground.  He chose not to.  He chose unwisely.
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2014-02-16 12:57:44 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: TheJoe03: Nutsac_Jim: TheJoe03: Nutsac_Jim: TheJoe03: I don't like him cause he was such a wannabe cop that the kid died, it all seemed avoidable. Zimmerman wanted to serve vigilante justice and now people hate him. Boo hoo.

Indeed.

What would have happened if Martin just went in the house instead of going back to teach cracker-ass a lesson?  Zimmerman sniffs the footprints and enters the house and shoots everyone?

Calm down angry white guy.

Sorry mister racist.

How exactly am I racist? Are you projecting?

Look at that. you cuss so much around the kids you even deny you say it after the kid says 'daddy said fark' and your wife glares at you.


Uh, are you on acid or something? Zimmerman supporters are an interesting bunch. Bless your heart.
 
2014-02-16 01:01:17 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: Zimmerman didn't intervene.  He stopped nothing.   He simply followed the young chap until the police told him not to do so.

You are inserting an awful lot of omniscience in there with your assertion that his behavior is caused by him having a gun.  Plenty of people do unrecommended/unwise things all the time.  He simply happened to be carrying.  This forethought likely saved him from further damage after someone tried to teach him a lesson.

You're right, he stopped nothing. Despite following Martin. His Neighborhood Watch training was explicit in deprecating leaving the car to see where Martin went. Had he not done so, no crime would have been committed, and no one would have gotten their ass kicked and no one would be dead.

So basically, if zimmerman didnt walk around in a shirt and fark me pumps, he wouldnt have been there to rape.  I think you are right.  Rape is a woman's fault.

Your argument continues to rely on speculation and not the proven facts of the case.

Let me get this straight, you are telling us what *would* have happened, and the one speculating is me?  HAHAHAHAH


Yes, you're speculating who started the fight.

But, sure, you're right. Aliens could have come down and bribed Martin to break into a neighbor's house or get Zimmerman to go have a few drinks and go driving around town. I was speculating that wouldn't happen.
 
2014-02-16 01:03:17 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: You mean walking down the path... while on the phone with the police?

Yes, he went to go hunt himself a kid while carrying an evidence producing phone.  Every killer does that.  It is Stalk101.


Apparently you don't think that phone produced any evidence of Zimmerman's guilt at all. Now it does?

Fascinating.
 
2014-02-16 01:04:04 AM  

Nutsac_Jim: You mean walking down the path... while on the phone with the police?

Yes, he went to go hunt himself a kid while carrying an evidence producing phone. Every killer does that. It is Stalk101.


But he made sure to hang up with 911, AND not give them a location, before continuing to hunt Trayvon.

7:13:14pm: Zimmerman has lost Trayvon. He doesn't want to say his address out loud because "I don't know where this kid is." Nine seconds later, Zimmerman tells dispatcher to have police call him when they arrive rather than meet at specific place, indicating that Zimmerman plans to keep moving, and doesn't know where exactly he'll be when police arrive.

7:13:41pm: Zimmerman's phone call with dispatch ends.

7:14pm: There is approximately a one minute, thirty second period for which we have very little information about what occurred, from around 17:14:00 until 17:15:30. Zimmerman apparently keeps searching for Trayvon during this time period, and phone records show that Trayvon is still on the phone with DeeDee. Also during this period of time, neither party moves particularly far from their estimated locations at 7:13:00pm;


Hmm, almost like he planned it: He was on the phone with 911 at the beginning, then once he figured he scared Trayvon into hiding, he hung up and continued searching until he found, confronted, fought with, and shot Trayvon.
 
2014-02-16 01:07:44 AM  

stoli n coke: Nutsac_Jim: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: Zimmerman didn't intervene.  He stopped nothing.   He simply followed the young chap until the police told him not to do so.

You are inserting an awful lot of omniscience in there with your assertion that his behavior is caused by him having a gun.  Plenty of people do unrecommended/unwise things all the time.  He simply happened to be carrying.  This forethought likely saved him from further damage after someone tried to teach him a lesson.

You're right, he stopped nothing. Despite following Martin. His Neighborhood Watch training was explicit in deprecating leaving the car to see where Martin went. Had he not done so, no crime would have been committed, and no one would have gotten their ass kicked and no one would be dead.

So basically, if zimmerman didnt walk around in a shirt and fark me pumps, he wouldnt have been there to rape.  I think you are right.  Rape is a woman's fault.


If you're trying to use the analogy of Zimmerman as a rape victim, you may want to entertain the fact that most rape victims don't stop and stare at potential rapists and then start walking after them.


While others initiate physical contact, then decide they don't want sex. Are you saying those rape victims deserved it?
 
2014-02-16 01:13:03 AM  

vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Facts not in evidence. We only have Zimmerman's word that Martin started the fight.


Zimmerman asked for the beating, apparently, because he chose to walk down the sidewalk at an unapproved time.

Martin asked for a beating followed by a shooting, apparently, because he chose to walk down the sidewalk at an unapproved time.

Martin got a beating?    He did get a shooting, deservedly.

Most men don't like to be mounted.  Martin chose the wrong man to mount.

Zimmerman picked the wrong guy to sucker-punch and then had to rely on his weapon to get him out of trouble.

I mean, so long as we're engaging in baseless speculation about who started the fight, mine's as good as yours.


Since you demand evidence, please cite your evidence for a sucker punch from Zimmerman. Trayvon had scuffed knuckles, zimm had a broken nose. Zimm had no damage to his knuckles, and the only other injury Trayvon had was a gunshot wound.
 
2014-02-16 01:16:11 AM  

Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies


You're totally right. My guns do get me a lot of pussy. (Both arms and arms.)
 
2014-02-16 01:19:39 AM  

Terrible Old Man: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

You're totally right. My guns do get me a lot of pussy. (Both arms and arms.)


Geez, you'd think you'd be a little less open about things like that on a public forum...
 
2014-02-16 01:27:24 AM  

vygramul:

That's true. For all we know, Zimmerman might have broken into the Martin home and killed everyone there. We have no way of knowing for sure.

Oh this looks like a fun game. I prefer to think that his martin's father's fiance would have tore a mailbox out of the ground and raped the neighbor with it. 

limeyfellow: CygnusDarius: Well, he better hope he wins that boxing match.

He has plenty of boxing and MMA experience for years and it not like it is a dangerous 90 158lb kid coming after him this time.


fredklein: Mr.BobDobalita: As I understand it, he was talking to a 911 operator. NOT a 911 dispatcher, and NOT the police.

"911" is generally considered to be "the police". You are nitpicking.


No, he isn't nitpicking, he is being correct. 911 is just as much "the police" as ADT (the burglar alarm company) or the suicide hotline is. It is a communications center and nothing more. In most situations, it is a completely different agency with zero ties other than a contract to work with the police (as well as numerous other agencies). They are not mandated officers, and cannot give legal commands. Any suggestions they make are (admittedly) for the sake of covering their own asses. Just because several idiots "generally" believe something doesn't make it true.
 
2014-02-16 01:39:17 AM  
George Zimmerman, who once shot a young man in Florida just to watch him die, wants you to know that things have not gone so well for him since he got away with stalking and murdering a teenager for being black.

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2014-02-16 01:49:19 AM  

Fark It: George Zimmerman, who once shot a young man in Florida just to watch him die, wants you to know that things have not gone so well for him since he got away with stalking and murdering a teenager for being black.

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um, no one denies that's precisely what happened you know. They only bicker about how much justification he had in using lethal for.... ah, fark it.
 
2014-02-16 02:05:35 AM  

sobriquet by any other name: Fark It: George Zimmerman, who once shot a young man in Florida just to watch him die, wants you to know that things have not gone so well for him since he got away with stalking and murdering a teenager for being black.

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um, no one denies that's precisely what happened you know. They only bicker about how much justification he had in using lethal for.... ah, fark it.


Zimmerman wasn't even accused of stalking, and self-defense is never murder.

/Martin is a piss-poor civil rights martyr, and this case is a convenient distraction to keep the proles occupied while the Justice Department continues its destructive drug war while paying lip service to racial justice
 
2014-02-16 02:35:07 AM  

Mattyb710: *click*

 George Zimmerman, who once shot a young man in Florida just to watch him die...

and close.


That's as far as I got as well.
 
2014-02-16 02:39:45 AM  

BSABSVR: doglover: Yes it is. You never put skittles in Zima? You never put skittles in vodka? Really? Watch kids drink next time you're in a college party.

Do you not understand the concept of "required"?   And yes,  I've farking *made* skittles infused vodka. It takes about 2 days for the skittles to dissolve and without a coffee filter and a funnel you have a nasty pile of waxiness in your drink.  Nobody getting high on codeine is going to use skittles  when Sprite or 7-up are available.


Thank you. I tried to do this and ended up throwing the whole thing out cause i thought i got it wrong. (On a side note, the vodka and gummy bears worked out fine)
 
2014-02-16 02:45:37 AM  

iheartscotch: hardinparamedic: Weatherkiss: Not everybody is the Lone Ranger. Guns typically aren't used to shoot other guns out of the hands of people. They're used to decide fights.

No. They're used to protect the lives of others who cannot be protected in any other way.

Do you know what that means? That means, unless you have no other way of doing so, you avoid the fight in the first place.

There's a reason that MOST states won't extend civil protections towards someone who ends up having to shoot the other party - even in self defense - in a fight they started or escalated in the first place.

This whole debacle could have been avoided by him doing what any other person would have done. Not get out of his car and follow someone he thought was a threat to the neighborhood to begin with alone.

THAT is why I don't feel sorry for him. This was not a rape victim shooting her attacker. This was not someone who's awoken in the house in the middle of the night and has to shoot someone to defend his family. Not someone who was carjacked. Not someone who had no other choice in the matter.

Again. He's like the guy who got lung cancer after smoking for 60 years. Tragic, but WTF did you EXPECT to happen?

I see what you're saying and I agree; you shouldn't shoot someone unless you have no other choice. I agree that, before the altercation, the zimmzamm made some pretty shiatty choices. I even agree that, had cooler minds prevailed, this entire situation might have been avoided.

The thing I've found to be the most telling about this case is how politicized it got. How everybody and their dog were howling , "Racism!", "He stalked that poor child!" and similar things.

/ I feel that, if the media hadn't picked up on it, we would have never heard a peep about it


One must admit too that Tray-Tray made a couple of mistakes. First, he shouldn't look like someone who is going to rob a store (ie leave off the hood). Secondly, when you realize you're being followed, turn and confront the follower nicely (a simple "Hey how ya doin'?" and a smile works for me). Thirdly, do NOT try to invoke someone's anger, especially in a state with concealed carry.
 
2014-02-16 02:55:10 AM  

People_are_Idiots: iheartscotch: hardinparamedic: Weatherkiss: Not everybody is the Lone Ranger. Guns typically aren't used to shoot other guns out of the hands of people. They're used to decide fights.

No. They're used to protect the lives of others who cannot be protected in any other way.

Do you know what that means? That means, unless you have no other way of doing so, you avoid the fight in the first place.

There's a reason that MOST states won't extend civil protections towards someone who ends up having to shoot the other party - even in self defense - in a fight they started or escalated in the first place.

This whole debacle could have been avoided by him doing what any other person would have done. Not get out of his car and follow someone he thought was a threat to the neighborhood to begin with alone.

THAT is why I don't feel sorry for him. This was not a rape victim shooting her attacker. This was not someone who's awoken in the house in the middle of the night and has to shoot someone to defend his family. Not someone who was carjacked. Not someone who had no other choice in the matter.

Again. He's like the guy who got lung cancer after smoking for 60 years. Tragic, but WTF did you EXPECT to happen?

I see what you're saying and I agree; you shouldn't shoot someone unless you have no other choice. I agree that, before the altercation, the zimmzamm made some pretty shiatty choices. I even agree that, had cooler minds prevailed, this entire situation might have been avoided.

The thing I've found to be the most telling about this case is how politicized it got. How everybody and their dog were howling , "Racism!", "He stalked that poor child!" and similar things.

/ I feel that, if the media hadn't picked up on it, we would have never heard a peep about it

One must admit too that Tray-Tray made a couple of mistakes. First, he shouldn't look like someone who is going to rob a store (ie leave off the hood). Secondly, when you realize you're being followed, turn and co ...

Wasn't it raining that night or something?
 
2014-02-16 02:56:32 AM  

LoneWolf343: Olo Manolo: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Olo Manolo: Lesson learned.

If you are black, unarmed and somebody that you think is white looks at you for too long follows you around at night without saying anything to you, you should bash their head into the ground, there will be a large group of people that support your decision.

If you see somebody you don't recognize and call the cops to try to keep bad things from happening and then follow them instead of letting the police do their job then get your head bashed in some bruising a small scrape on your forehead then defend yourself with deadly force, be prepared to burn in hell.

Fixed to more accurately represent Zimmerman's own sworn testimony and the physical evidence.

Seriously people, even if every single word of Zimmerman's testimony is the absolute 100% unvarnished truth, Martin died because Zimmerman followed an unarmed teenager at night instead of letting the police do their f*cking jobs.

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That's an odd place to put a forehead, right on the back of his head...

How do you ignore the part where the martin walked away, he WENT ELSEWHERE UNHARMED, aka situation over. Then RETURNED to pummel Zimmerman... If you get away from a situation safely, no harm done, then return to the situation aggressively, that is not self defense. That is looking for trouble. But go ahead, tell me more about the perfect little angel who was known for his kindness and compassion that was tracked down for several blocks by a rabid racist and shot in the back for fun...

Let's just ignore that he started it.

/Then pulled out a gun when he was loosing
//You're defending a coward and a bully. DIAF


And if some creep was walking around my neiborhood, staring at children when they were walking back and forth to the store, carrying a gun, i would think he was some kinda pervert. We know little to nothing about the days before the shooting. We know nothing about the neiborhood. Maybe he didn't like the way zim looked at little kids, and then he sees this dude following him home, looking in windows, and comes back out to confront him.
 
2014-02-16 03:07:23 AM  

The_Original_Roxtar: funny how media assassination and overzealous prosecution without a shred of evidence can destroy a person financially.

did I say funny? i meant tragic.


send him more money then. he probably still has a website up accepting donations. it's obvious this is just an attempt by him to raise more cash.

------

funny how be pussied out on the fight. I thought he might. people like him can't function without their security blanket strapped on.
 
2014-02-16 03:12:37 AM  

People_are_Idiots: One must admit too that Tray-Tray made a couple of mistakes. First, he shouldn't look like someone who is going to rob a store (ie leave off the hood). Secondly, when you realize you're being followed, turn and confront the follower nicely (a simple "Hey how ya doin'?" and a smile works for me). Thirdly, do NOT try to invoke someone's anger, especially in a state with concealed carry.


1. it was raining. I find it funny you would think that wearing a hood in the rain would be justification for profiling

2. he tried to approach him while he was in the vehicle and George rolled up his window and wouldn't talk to him. The he followed him in his vehicle and when he couldn't anymore he got out and did it on foot.  I find it funny you put the burden to "defuse the situation" on the kid on the phone to his girlfriend walking home in the rain and not the stalker with a gun following him home.
 
2014-02-16 03:15:53 AM  
redheededstepchild:

And if some creep was walking around my neiborhood, staring at children when they were walking back and forth to the store, carrying a gun, i would think he was some kinda pervert. We know little to nothing about the days before the shooting. We know nothing about the neiborhood. Maybe he didn' ...

And there it goes... Not only is he a big ol' gun totin' racist, but he is also a pedophile. No evidence whatsoever required..

 "Hey, don't blame me, I'm just asking questions here. but you can't PROVE he's not a racist or a pedophile.."
 
2014-02-16 03:24:38 AM  

The_Original_Roxtar: funny how media assassination and overzealous prosecution without a shred of evidence can destroy a person financially.

did I say funny? i meant tragic.


Regardless, I'm clicking the "Funny" button for you, because there is no DURP button yet.
 
2014-02-16 03:26:01 AM  

Olo Manolo: redheededstepchild:

And if some creep was walking around my neiborhood, staring at children when they were walking back and forth to the store, carrying a gun, i would think he was some kinda pervert. We know little to nothing about the days before the shooting. We know nothing about the neiborhood. Maybe he didn' ...

And there it goes... Not only is he a big ol' gun totin' racist, but he is also a pedophile. No evidence whatsoever required..

 "Hey, don't blame me, I'm just asking questions here. but you can't PROVE he's not a racist or a pedophile.."


Probably not a racist or a pedophile, murderer definitely.
 
2014-02-16 03:27:02 AM  
He followed a teenage boy home from the store. We used to warn kids about this kind of behavior. And since so many want to cast a dead guy as the 'villan' why not speculate on trey being the good guy.
 
2014-02-16 03:36:24 AM  

redheededstepchild: He followed a teenage boy home from the store. We used to warn kids about this kind of behavior. And since so many want to cast a dead guy as the 'villan' why not speculate on trey being the good guy.


So let me get this straight... Framing zimmerman as a pedophile and a racist automatically makes "ya boy trey" a good guy? Is that how this works?
 
2014-02-16 03:48:38 AM  
I never said that, but why not play both sides of the fake story thru? The only one that knows for sure what happened is having karma b%^chslap him. The universe will sort itself out.
 
2014-02-16 03:51:38 AM  

redheededstepchild: I never said that, but why not play both sides of the fake story thru? The only one that knows for sure what happened is having karma b%^chslap him. The universe will sort itself out.


y-y-yy-yyyyeahhh....... ok then....
 
2014-02-16 03:53:31 AM  
Hey where's 9beers? Zimm's BFF.
 
2014-02-16 03:57:03 AM  

Hobodeluxe: People_are_Idiots: One must admit too that Tray-Tray made a couple of mistakes. First, he shouldn't look like someone who is going to rob a store (ie leave off the hood). Secondly, when you realize you're being followed, turn and confront the follower nicely (a simple "Hey how ya doin'?" and a smile works for me). Thirdly, do NOT try to invoke someone's anger, especially in a state with concealed carry.

1. it was raining. I find it funny you would think that wearing a hood in the rain would be justification for profiling

2. he tried to approach him while he was in the vehicle and George rolled up his window and wouldn't talk to him. The he followed him in his vehicle and when he couldn't anymore he got out and did it on foot.  I find it funny you put the burden to "defuse the situation" on the kid on the phone to his girlfriend walking home in the rain and not the stalker with a gun following him home.


1. Usually I never wear a hood when it rains. I carry an umbrella. I also typically don't WALK in the rain.

2. I usually pay a guy in the car no mind, until they -start- following. I -then- would confront "NICELY." Wanna know how he confronted him? Most likely (typically how I have heard other kids 15-18 confront) "Hey what's your problem man?" and getting ready to land blows.
 
2014-02-16 04:27:37 AM  
All the Zimmerman White Knights can go fark themselves. That sonofabiatch got away with murder, as plain as O.J. did.

/hope he dies alone and miserable
 
2014-02-16 04:44:40 AM  

vygramul: atomicmask: vygramul: Nutsac_Jim: mrshowrules: and if you have to shoot a kid to avoid a beating you asked for, you are a coward who deserves to go to jail

Walking down the sidewalk is a crime with a punishment of beating?   Which ghetto?

Facts not in evidence. We only have Zimmerman's word that Martin started the fight.

That and the witnesses...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-beaten-prosecution-witness es /story?id=19517236

But I mean keep denying facts and making up the "sweet black baby" story you keep grasping at.

Just because he lost the fight didn't mean he didn't start it. The witnesses don't help establish who started it.

But I mean keep asserting facts for which you have no evidence and make up the "well-meaning good-guy" story you keep grasping at.


And you have no evidence he did start it, you are just assuming. You keep asserting that zimmerman started it, no witnesses saw that, what they did see was martin on top of him assaulting him, so that is the fact we know. That fact alone gives him right to self defense including lethal self defense, deal with it lib.

fredklein: atomicmask: http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/23/justice/florida-zimmerman-defense/

Was suspended 3 times for dealing drugs and doing them at school.

That link does not back up that statement. "Items taken from Trayvon Martin's cell phone -- including a text-message discussion of drug use and pictures of a gun and marijuana plants". Nothing about school, nothing about suspension, nothing about any real evidence of drug use.

Other articles (like http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Trayvon-Martin-Suspended-From-School-Thre e-Times-Report-144403305.html) do indeed mention that he was "suspended three times in a series of incidents that included getting caught spraying graffiti and carrying an empty baggie with traces of marijuana"..."Martin's third suspension was for tardiness and truancy". So, ONE suspension had to do with drugs, and only barely.

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/florida/features/2013/oh_florida/ tr ayvon_martin_creepy_ass_cracker_what_cracker_means_in_florida.html

Called Zimmerman a "creepy ass cracker" went home, turned around and came out side to "whip his ass"

Sorry, again, not supported by actual evidence. Rachel Jeantel actually said that ""I called him back. I asked him where he was," she recounted. He told her that he was nearly back at this father's fiancée's house in Sanford." [Emphasis added]. Considering he had walked a mile or so back from the store, being a few hundred feet away from home would easily be considered "nearly" home. So, there is basically NO evidence that Trayvon "went home, turned around" and came back.

To the contrary, it was Zimmerman who was looking for Trayvon. From the Timeline:

7:11:33 - Zimmerman tells the police dispatcher that Trayvon Martin is running.

7:11:59 - In reply to the dispatcher's question, "Are you following him?" Zimmerman responds with, "Yes." Dispatcher: "OK, we don't need you to do that." Zimmerman: "OK."

...

7:16:11 - First 911 call from witness about a fight, calls for help heard.


N ...


OH well that clears it up, I mean, being suspended for having a baggy with trace amounts of pot is not the same thing as having drugs..

Clearly your stereotype of the innocent sweet black baby sitting on the curb out front playing with his hot wheels and eating skittles is true. 

Martin: "Hey mister, want some skittles?"

ZImmerman: BWHAAWHWHHHHAWWWWRRRR! BANG BANG BANG BANG

Martin: But, but, I will miss my youth ministry session if I die...

Zimmerman: KILL ALL BLACK CHILDREN, RAWWWWRRRRR

So basically everything is like a spike lee film to you?
 
2014-02-16 04:49:24 AM  

gja: That's why you are supposed to ear PANTS


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2014-02-16 04:54:47 AM  

Olo Manolo: redheededstepchild: He followed a teenage boy home from the store. We used to warn kids about this kind of behavior. And since so many want to cast a dead guy as the 'villan' why not speculate on trey being the good guy.

So let me get this straight... Framing zimmerman as a pedophile and a racist automatically makes "ya boy trey" a good guy? Is that how this works?


Ya boy? In quotes for some reason? How obviously racist can you guys be? I do like how this whole issue made knowing who the dipshiat racists on this site easier.
 
2014-02-16 04:55:13 AM  
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2014-02-16 05:05:11 AM  
TheJoe03:
Ya boy? In quotes for some reason? How obviously racist can you guys be? I do like how this whole issue made knowing who the dipshiat racists on this site easier.


Right. I'm a racist.

and you are a unicorn. So deal with it, dipshiat..
 
2014-02-16 05:10:11 AM  

Olo Manolo: TheJoe03:
Ya boy? In quotes for some reason? How obviously racist can you guys be? I do like how this whole issue made knowing who the dipshiat racists on this site easier.


Right. I'm a racist.

and you are a unicorn. So deal with it, dipshiat..


That's your response? Why did you say "ya boy"? You're making black jokes but in a serious manner. It's kinda racist, you can deny it all you want. As a fan of jokes and comedy I'd say it wouldn't be racist if your black joke actually had a punchline and wasn't trying to be part of your "argument".
 
2014-02-16 05:17:12 AM  

TheJoe03: That's your response? Why did you say "ya boy"? You're making black jokes but in a serious manner.



Why am I even doing this... geez...

First off, "ya boy" was in reference to dude calling him "trey" as if though they were on a first name basis.

Second off, according to the rules of what race can say what and get away with it, I can say "ya boy" and mean it in reference to black people all I want, since I'm "half black" (from a mixed family)..
 
2014-02-16 05:20:01 AM  
All I'm saying is that you can defend Zimmerman without using obvious racial language, it makes your side and your point more kosher. If this really wasn't about race like your side claims, why use race in your initial arguments. Wait for the other side to bring in race and say race wasn't a part of it and here's why what Zimmerman did was just. It makes the argument clearer from your perspective and makes people on the fence not think you ARE actually a racist that rooted against the general black position based on your view on historic American race relations. I clearly separate posters like you from non racist people that think Zimmerman was acting in reasonable self defense.
 
2014-02-16 05:32:10 AM  

TheJoe03: All I'm saying is that you can defend Zimmerman without using obvious racial language, it makes your side and your point more kosher. If this really wasn't about race like your side claims, why use race in your initial arguments. Wait for the other side to bring in race and say race wasn't a part of it and here's why what Zimmerman did was just. It makes the argument clearer from your perspective and makes people on the fence not think you ARE actually a racist that rooted against the general black position based on your view on historic American race relations. I clearly separate posters like you from non racist people that think Zimmerman was acting in reasonable self defense.



And you can reserve use of the term "racist" for people that deserve it. Just because you feel something was meant in a derogatory manner, doesn't mean it inherently is so.. If you had been watching me say the same thing I just said, but on tv (where you would assume I was black based on my appearance, instead of assuming I was white based on my "racism") nothing I said would have triggered your "That's racist!" response. It's a ridiculous double standard, but that's clearly the way it works.
 
2014-02-16 05:36:25 AM  

Olo Manolo: TheJoe03: All I'm saying is that you can defend Zimmerman without using obvious racial language, it makes your side and your point more kosher. If this really wasn't about race like your side claims, why use race in your initial arguments. Wait for the other side to bring in race and say race wasn't a part of it and here's why what Zimmerman did was just. It makes the argument clearer from your perspective and makes people on the fence not think you ARE actually a racist that rooted against the general black position based on your view on historic American race relations. I clearly separate posters like you from non racist people that think Zimmerman was acting in reasonable self defense.


And you can reserve use of the term "racist" for people that deserve it. Just because you feel something was meant in a derogatory manner, doesn't mean it inherently is so.. If you had been watching me say the same thing I just said, but on tv (where you would assume I was black based on my appearance, instead of assuming I was white based on my "racism") nothing I said would have triggered your "That's racist!" response. It's a ridiculous double standard, but that's clearly the way it works.


That's a serious dodge of what I said. If this wasn't about race why constantly use racial language? It makes your argument weak and makes you appear to be racists to other people.
 
2014-02-16 05:42:08 AM  
Okay, you're half black, great. That doesn't change my point in any way, so many pissed off white guys have been using racist language and your side is stuck with that label. By continuing to play into that racial bs your argument isn't clear. You're adding a barrier of racist shiat that is a big deal I a country like this that people don't even know whether or not what the Z Man did was justified. You're to busy confusing the issue by being racial when this should be about right and wrong in the terms of self defense. I'm trying to help you here.
 
2014-02-16 05:47:19 AM  
It's not a dodge, its ignoring your non-sense. First claiming that I was racially charged in my comment, then making another argument based on the same flawed premise that I am "constantly using racial language". Please, continue looking at everything through that lens though, I'm sure if you keep up with it long enough somebody will agree with you and validate your ridiculous claims.

This thread is boring now.
 
2014-02-16 05:52:45 AM  

Olo Manolo: It's not a dodge, its ignoring your non-sense. First claiming that I was racially charged in my comment, then making another argument based on the same flawed premise that I am "constantly using racial language". Please, continue looking at everything through that lens though, I'm sure if you keep up with it long enough somebody will agree with you and validate your ridiculous claims.

This thread is boring now.


Really? Are you reading my words? Make your case for Zimmerman without being racial and you sound smarter. I challenge you right now to argue Zimmermans case without bringing up race. That's all Im saying but I feel you're not getting that. BTW, I'm not saying you've been constantly using racial language, I'm saying your side has. Don't be so self absorbed. This isn't personal, that should be obvious.
 
2014-02-16 05:57:27 AM  
"You kids today are nothin but punks, sissified, so quick to pick up a gun, scared to take an ass whipping. (holds up fists) This is what makes you a man" John Witherspoon, Friday.

Yeah, George was being beat to death by the first-time, I'm going to kill you with my bear hands, unarmed teenager who was walking home and just flipped out, turning into a vicious killer that will beat you till you're dead. Doesn't it take a serious violent past to become a person like that? Just a thought.

Tray was a punk, but not a criminal and George may have had a right to defend himself, and probably was, but if he knew how to actually fight, Tray would still be alive. An actual cop would have tasered the kid.

Doesn't matter, because it's over, I just hope people won't start to rely on lazily pulling a trigger instead of being afraid to get their ass kicked every know and then.
 
2014-02-16 06:00:20 AM  
Yes I am reading your words, like where you are saying "you" and "you're" then in the next post saying it's not in reference to me. You aren't trying to have a discussion, you are trying to be right. The only way a consensus will be reached is if it stop and concede, and that doesn't sound like fun to me.

I'd rather go jerk it to some weird stuff now.. Maybe something to do with pastries, or pillows...
 
2014-02-16 06:01:30 AM  

Zizzowop: "You kids today are nothin but punks, sissified, so quick to pick up a gun, scared to take an ass whipping. (holds up fists) This is what makes you a man" John Witherspoon, Friday.

Yeah, George was being beat to death by the first-time, I'm going to kill you with my bear hands, unarmed teenager who was walking home and just flipped out, turning into a vicious killer that will beat you till you're dead. Doesn't it take a serious violent past to become a person like that? Just a thought.

Tray was a punk, but not a criminal and George may have had a right to defend himself, and probably was, but if he knew how to actually fight, Tray would still be alive. An actual cop would have tasered the kid.

Doesn't matter, because it's over, I just hope people won't start to rely on lazily pulling a trigger instead of being afraid to get their ass kicked every know and then.


Bam, this guy just made a reasonable argument without sounding like a racist douche. I actually read that and considered the opinion. Now the argument is more nuanced. Good shiat dude.
 
2014-02-16 06:04:23 AM  

Olo Manolo: Yes I am reading your words, like where you are saying "you" and "you're" then in the next post saying it's not in reference to me. You aren't trying to have a discussion, you are trying to be right. The only way a consensus will be reached is if it stop and concede, and that doesn't sound like fun to me.

I'd rather go jerk it to some weird stuff now.. Maybe something to do with pastries, or pillows...


Well I was talking to you and you represent that side to me. I am trying to be right, that's the point of having an opinion and arguing. If you weren't so wrong then I wouldn't be right, am I right? Have fun jerkin it.

/did I just break a trolls brain?
 
2014-02-16 06:09:26 AM  
You kind of admitted that it would be boring to argue your side without bringing up race, why is that? That's all I wanted out of our discussion. Oh well.
 
2014-02-16 06:10:26 AM  

Miss Alexandra: St. Skittles (that's what some of us call him)


Maybe the retard brigade called him that, but rational, sane people didn't.

//I know which group I'm favouriting you as.
 
2014-02-16 06:11:30 AM  

TheJoe03: Olo Manolo: Yes I am reading your words, like where you are saying "you" and "you're" then in the next post saying it's not in reference to me. You aren't trying to have a discussion, you are trying to be right. The only way a consensus will be reached is if it stop and concede, and that doesn't sound like fun to me.

I'd rather go jerk it to some weird stuff now.. Maybe something to do with pastries, or pillows...

Well I was talking to you and you represent that side to me. I am trying to be right, that's the point of having an opinion and arguing. If you weren't so wrong then I wouldn't be right, am I right? Have fun jerkin it.

/did I just break a trolls brain?


Go back to your Weeners to me, then read it without assuming it is racist (since it wasn't, you just happened to read it that way).  Now see that the rest of this conversation talking about race wouldn't have happened without your initial assumption. How exactly am I the one stuck on it when it is all in direct response to what you have said to me? lol

wanna see me naked?
 
2014-02-16 06:15:00 AM  

Olo Manolo: TheJoe03: Olo Manolo: Yes I am reading your words, like where you are saying "you" and "you're" then in the next post saying it's not in reference to me. You aren't trying to have a discussion, you are trying to be right. The only way a consensus will be reached is if it stop and concede, and that doesn't sound like fun to me.

I'd rather go jerk it to some weird stuff now.. Maybe something to do with pastries, or pillows...

Well I was talking to you and you represent that side to me. I am trying to be right, that's the point of having an opinion and arguing. If you weren't so wrong then I wouldn't be right, am I right? Have fun jerkin it.

/did I just break a trolls brain?

Go back to your Weeners to me, then read it without assuming it is racist (since it wasn't, you just happened to read it that way).  Now see that the rest of this conversation talking about race wouldn't have happened without your initial assumption. How exactly am I the one stuck on it when it is all in direct response to what you have said to me? lol

wanna see me naked?


That proves my point, I assumed you were racist because your side is constantly using racial language and you did as well. if you argued without racial bs I would have more readily considered your point and not assumed anything. You came off as a troll when you could of came across as someone with a rational opinion. sorry. I assumed what I did, but it's your fault. This is the internet and we are using words here. Still waiting for you to defend Zimmerman without being racial. That will end this.
 
2014-02-16 06:26:30 AM  
Zimmerman called 911 because he saw somebody that he didn't recognize walking through his neighbors yards, he found this suspicious so he intended to keep an eye on him until police showed up. Martin left the scene unharmed, situation over. If he had concerns for his well-being he should have "called the cops and let them do their job" but no, he returned to the scene and a confrontation ensued.

that better?
 
2014-02-16 06:31:22 AM  

Olo Manolo: Zimmerman called 911 because he saw somebody that he didn't recognize walking through his neighbors yards, he found this suspicious so he intended to keep an eye on him until police showed up. Martin left the scene unharmed, situation over. If he had concerns for his well-being he should have "called the cops and let them do their job" but no, he returned to the scene and a confrontation ensued.

that better?


Much.
 
2014-02-16 06:33:38 AM  

TheJoe03: Olo Manolo: Zimmerman called 911 because he saw somebody that he didn't recognize walking through his neighbors yards, he found this suspicious so he intended to keep an eye on him until police showed up. Martin left the scene unharmed, situation over. If he had concerns for his well-being he should have "called the cops and let them do their job" but no, he returned to the scene and a confrontation ensued.

that better?

Much.


I still love you
 
2014-02-16 06:39:04 AM  

Olo Manolo: TheJoe03: Olo Manolo: Zimmerman called 911 because he saw somebody that he didn't recognize walking through his neighbors yards, he found this suspicious so he intended to keep an eye on him until police showed up. Martin left the scene unharmed, situation over. If he had concerns for his well-being he should have "called the cops and let them do their job" but no, he returned to the scene and a confrontation ensued.

that better?

Much.

I still love you


How could you not? By something like that? Fair enough.
 
2014-02-16 06:40:36 AM  
By saying something like that I mean. I need to stop farking on an iPad, screws me up ,
 
2014-02-16 06:56:13 AM  
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2014-02-16 07:41:05 AM  

doglover: hardinparamedic: [jokesound.files.wordpress.com image 500x333]
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Couldn't have happened to a nicer asshole.

So for defending himself and trying to do his job he should lose his home and stay forever in the spotlight because the thug who attacked him happened to be black.

Meanwhile 10 innocent black teens were shot in Detroit this month and media can't even spare a second to remind us about the fact.


He wasn't doing his job, in fact, the development actually didn't want him doing this. Especially doing this while armed. He was entirely doing the whole neighborhood watch gig of his own accord. Of course, the local police were cheering him on.

Mr Zimmerman is doing just fine defining himself as an asshole and doesn't need any assistance from "liberal" bloggers.
 
2014-02-16 07:42:09 AM  

brownribbon: BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
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Nice. Here is my newest (bottom) pictured with one I fixed up about a year ago:

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Absolutely at the TOP of my "WANT" list!!!
Jealous...
 
2014-02-16 08:07:16 AM  

jeffowl: lunging_man_ass: Wow, did the author of that article actually watch the trial and the evidence presented?

It amazes me how many people have no idea what the actual facts of the case are, and instead rely on overtly emotional notions based on ignorant Facebook slacktivism.

It was Raw story. It's the liberal version of Rush Limbaugh but less subtle.


Less subtle than Rush? I don't think that such a thing is possible
 
2014-02-16 08:25:05 AM  

Farkage: brownribbon: BadReligion: Raging Whore Moans: No, seriously. Guns are for pussies

Well the, I won't show off my new one. Well, ok, I will. It is an extra for pussies Ruger Blackhawk .357 stainless.
[i74.photobucket.com image 752x800]

Nice. Here is my newest (bottom) pictured with one I fixed up about a year ago:

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Absolutely at the TOP of my "WANT" list!!!
Jealous...


Why jealous? It's a tool, not a toy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kU0XCVey_U
 
2014-02-16 08:30:13 AM  
This thread is certainly full of names I've never seen before, defending Zimmerman and pooping all over Rawstory.
 
2014-02-16 08:30:13 AM  

hardinparamedic: Miss Alexandra: Uh, no.

St. Skittles (that's what some of us call him) attacked Zimmerman.  He was knocking Zimmerman's head against the ground, and in case you didn't know, you can die of head injuries.  So in a sense St. Skittles was armed--with the pavement.

No, no one calls him that. Even people who legitimately believe that it was self-defense and that the entire situation was provoked by Martin don't call him that.

Maybe you're confusing us with your friends at Stormfront.

Miss Alexandra: I might add that Skittles and watermelon juice (which is what he had, not iced tea) along with a third ingredient (I think it's cough syrup) are used to make a drug.  No, I haven't done it, but I read about it.

So St. Skittles wasn't the innocent little saint the media was portraying him as.

You might add that, but you'd demonstrate you have shiat-all idea what you're talking about. "Grape Drank" is a grain alcohol, grape juice or kool-aid, and codeine cough syrup OR promethazine (phenergan)

It's not Arizona Iced Tea and skittles, you racist flat earther moron.


Read this lady's profile. She believes in farking geocentricism
 
gja
2014-02-16 08:36:58 AM  

cretinbob: gja: That's why you are supposed to ear PANTS

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Yeah yeah yeah....Ya got me. Typoville, population:me
But of course you know it was supposed to say "That's why you wear PANTS."
 
gja
2014-02-16 08:43:17 AM  

LoneWolf343: This thread is certainly full of names I've never seen before, defending Zimmerman and pooping all over Rawstory.


I am NOT defending RS, but RS is a pocketful-of-assholes.
And Tom Boggioni is a bigger asshole than I can express.
His package of libel based schadenfreude and vitriol shows his true character.
 
2014-02-16 08:46:29 AM  

doglover: So for defending himself and trying to do his job he should lose his home and stay forever in the spotlight because the thug who attacked him happened to be black.


He could just you know, stay out of the spotlight? Or did someone make him do a televised interview? Did someone make him get arrested numerous times since his acquittal? Did someone make him agree to "celebrity" boxing (thrusting him back in the spotlight again) - even though I gather that's not happening now.

The best way to not be in the spotlight is to not put yourself there. The only reason anyone is talking about him today is he did a televised interview.
 
gja
2014-02-16 08:59:52 AM  

serpent_sky: doglover: So for defending himself and trying to do his job he should lose his home and stay forever in the spotlight because the thug who attacked him happened to be black.

He could just you know, stay out of the spotlight? Or did someone make him do a televised interview? Did someone make him get arrested numerous times since his acquittal? Did someone make him agree to "celebrity" boxing (thrusting him back in the spotlight again) - even though I gather that's not happening now.

The best way to not be in the spotlight is to not put yourself there. The only reason anyone is talking about him today is he did a televised interview.


That right there is nice and sensible advice. Of course old George isn't really chock-full-o-sense.
Were he to be someone with clear thinking after the trial cleared him he would have fell off the radar utterly.
It wouldn't have been that hard. Just blow town, hire a lawyer to deal with the ex, take no offers so daytime TV expoit shows, etc..
Hell after a year or two you are back to people not remembering much about you.
 
2014-02-16 09:05:52 AM  

Majick Thise: The spin... IT. IS. TOOMUCH. SPIN.


I couldn't read past the first paragraph.

What the fark was that shiat?

That paragraph alone, that's flat out provable slander. Hope he sues them.
 
2014-02-16 09:16:04 AM  

gja: LoneWolf343: This thread is certainly full of names I've never seen before, defending Zimmerman and pooping all over Rawstory.

I am NOT defending RS, but RS is a pocketful-of-assholes.
And Tom Boggioni is a bigger asshole than I can express.
His package of libel based schadenfreude and vitriol shows his true character.


Mr B's lack of tact notwithstanding, I'm more acutely aware of a bunch of troll alts screaming foul over what is at worst a bad joke. But, surprise surprise, people get "vitriolic" when someone kills an unarmed kid and gets away with it, and derive pleasure from what little vengeance they are allowed. Who'd have thunk it? If it wasn't for the criminal incompetence of the authorities in the matter, Zimmerman would have been forgotten by now.
 
2014-02-16 09:19:48 AM  
Holy shiat look at all the Zimmer Rimmers.  Why don't you give him a home, he might cuddle with you.

It's hilarious how these people need to paint a picture in their heads of an innocent guy who just happened to have a gun being jumped by a drugged out black "thug".  You're just projecting your own fears.  The facts of Zimmerman's pursuit and stalking behavior and subsequent violent and reckless activities are meaningless to you, but TM being a kid and acting like one is somehow proof he was a Superpredator luring Zimbo to an ambush.

Amazing level of self-bullshiatting.
 
2014-02-16 09:26:20 AM  

atomicmask: OH well that clears it up, I mean, being suspended for having a baggy with trace amounts of pot is not the same thing as having drugs..


Having an EMPTY baggie ONCE is not he same as "Was suspended 3 times for dealing drugs and doing them at school", which is what you claimed.
 
2014-02-16 09:32:56 AM  

lordjupiter: Holy shiat look at all the Zimmer Rimmers.  Why don't you give him a home, he might cuddle with you.


Maybe, but looking at his arrest history, he's more likely to assault you or pull a gun on you, so buyer beware.

Let's face it - this is not some nice, innocent guy who found himself in a bad situation that he has deep, painful regrets about.  His 'PTSD" isn't because he shot and killed a teenager, it's because the big, bad media reported it and he had a high profile trial. (I will admit that MSNBC made far too much of a circus of the whole thing).  That said, I have to imagine most people in his scenario would feel horrible about what happened all told, wish they had taken some different steps that night, and go live a quiet life as far away from the spotlight as possible.  But he's not most people - he's not someone who makes wise decisions and he doesn't appear to be a good person.
 
gja
2014-02-16 09:33:09 AM  

LoneWolf343: gja: LoneWolf343: This thread is certainly full of names I've never seen before, defending Zimmerman and pooping all over Rawstory.

I am NOT defending RS, but RS is a pocketful-of-assholes.
And Tom Boggioni is a bigger asshole than I can express.
His package of libel based schadenfreude and vitriol shows his true character.

Mr B's lack of tact notwithstanding, I'm more acutely aware of a bunch of troll alts screaming foul over what is at worst a bad joke. But, surprise surprise, people get "vitriolic" when someone kills an unarmed kid and gets away with it, and derive pleasure from what little vengeance they are allowed. Who'd have thunk it? If it wasn't for the criminal incompetence of the authorities in the matter, Zimmerman would have been forgotten by now.


You ASSUME the blog is a "bad joke". I do not think so. TBogg is a shiatbag who has also been caught nearing the outskirts of antisemitism.
Before I made any judgement I read a load of his stuff, and then drew conclusion. He is an asshole. Lack of tact does not approach his failings.

And as far as what happened in trial, we ALL need to just own that it was decided and nothing further can be said or done.
Zimm was never found innocent, BTW, they just failed to find him guilty of the charges as specified.
 
2014-02-16 09:47:06 AM  

s2s2s2: Since you demand evidence, please cite your evidence for a sucker punch from Zimmerman. Trayvon had scuffed knuckles, zimm had a broken nose. Zimm had no damage to his knuckles, and the only other injury Trayvon had was a gunshot wound.


There's as much reason to think Zimmerman started it as Martin did. That's the entire point.

And you can assault someone without causing a noticeable abrasion to your knuckles.
 
2014-02-16 09:50:54 AM  

fredklein: atomicmask: OH well that clears it up, I mean, being suspended for having a baggy with trace amounts of pot is not the same thing as having drugs..

Having an EMPTY baggie ONCE is not he same as "Was suspended 3 times for dealing drugs and doing them at school", which is what you claimed.


Because unless Treyvon's teenaged character isn't destroyed or defined as sufficiently thuggish and criminal then the championing of the shooter does not fit the narrative anymore.

I read somewhere where an MMA studio attempted to re-enact the whole incident based upon Mr Zimmerman's recorded interviews with police. And when it came to the actual "life threatening beating" Mr Zimmerman was experiencing, his initial claim that he had his gun holstered while Treyvon was straddling him and beating his head into the pavement kinda completely falls apart.

They found it impossible to pull the sidearm from its holster with even the smallest MMA student atop the largest MMA student.

Which suggests that Mr Zimmerman went for the weapon a whole heck of a lot sooner than testimony indicates

I'm certain that Treyvon was no saint, he was a fairly typical teenager that gets into the weed.

But I'm also fairly certain he wasn't the murderous gangster "thug" that the most vocal defenders of this shooting repeatedly depict.

Either way, if Mr Zimmerman had not been such a self motivated, over zealous wannabe cop on the unsanctioned neighborhood watch, the kid would still be alive. He was clearly told to stay in his vehicle. SO, I don't know what offends me more, Tbogg's schedenfreude? Or the way Mr Zimmerman's defenders repeated stretch truth and reality to defend the shooting.
 
2014-02-16 09:52:52 AM  

gja: LoneWolf343: gja: LoneWolf343: This thread is certainly full of names I've never seen before, defending Zimmerman and pooping all over Rawstory.

I am NOT defending RS, but RS is a pocketful-of-assholes.
And Tom Boggioni is a bigger asshole than I can express.
His package of libel based schadenfreude and vitriol shows his true character.

Mr B's lack of tact notwithstanding, I'm more acutely aware of a bunch of troll alts screaming foul over what is at worst a bad joke. But, surprise surprise, people get "vitriolic" when someone kills an unarmed kid and gets away with it, and derive pleasure from what little vengeance they are allowed. Who'd have thunk it? If it wasn't for the criminal incompetence of the authorities in the matter, Zimmerman would have been forgotten by now.

You ASSUME the blog is a "bad joke". I do not think so. TBogg is a shiatbag who has also been caught nearing the outskirts of antisemitism.
Before I made any judgement I read a load of his stuff, and then drew conclusion. He is an asshole. Lack of tact does not approach his failings.

And as far as what happened in trial, we ALL need to just own that it was decided and nothing further can be said or done.
Zimm was never found innocent, BTW, they just failed to find him guilty of the charges as specified.


That says more about you than it does about TBogg.
 
2014-02-16 10:00:12 AM  

Olo Manolo: Oh this looks like a fun game. I prefer to think that his martin's father's fiance would have tore a mailbox out of the ground and raped the neighbor with it.


Well, if they're going to say that I'm being unreasonable in saying that without the confrontation, no crime would have been committed, then the game's afoot.
 
gja
2014-02-16 10:01:24 AM  

LoneWolf343: gja: LoneWolf343: gja: LoneWolf343: This thread is certainly full of names I've never seen before, defending Zimmerman and pooping all over Rawstory.

I am NOT defending RS, but RS is a pocketful-of-assholes.
And Tom Boggioni is a bigger asshole than I can express.
His package of libel based schadenfreude and vitriol shows his true character.

Mr B's lack of tact notwithstanding, I'm more acutely aware of a bunch of troll alts screaming foul over what is at worst a bad joke. But, surprise surprise, people get "vitriolic" when someone kills an unarmed kid and gets away with it, and derive pleasure from what little vengeance they are allowed. Who'd have thunk it? If it wasn't for the criminal incompetence of the authorities in the matter, Zimmerman would have been forgotten by now.

You ASSUME the blog is a "bad joke". I do not think so. TBogg is a shiatbag who has also been caught nearing the outskirts of antisemitism.
Before I made any judgement I read a load of his stuff, and then drew conclusion. He is an asshole. Lack of tact does not approach his failings.

And as far as what happened in trial, we ALL need to just own that it was decided and nothing further can be said or done.
Zimm was never found innocent, BTW, they just failed to find him guilty of the charges as specified.

That says more about you than it does about TBogg.


Yes it does, that I judge a person on the merits of their actions. That you think otherwise lets us all know where you live at.
 
2014-02-16 10:07:32 AM  

atomicmask: And you have no evidence he did start it, you are just assuming. You keep asserting that zimmerman started it, no witnesses saw that, what they did see was martin on top of him assaulting him, so that is the fact we know. That fact alone gives him right to self defense including lethal self defense, deal with it lib.


First, my entire point is that who started it is an assumption. That's why I say Zimmerman started it every time someone says Martin started it. Both are entirely speculative.

Second, your last sentence isn't automatically correct. If I fire on you and miss, and you fire back, I can't then kill you and claim self-defense. When you start a fight, you are not guiltless for its results.

And, it's entirely consistent to think all of that and yet also feel there wasn't enough evidence to convict Zimmerman. That doesn't mean his actions weren't unwise. I mean, taking out $300 from an ATM in downtown DC at 3am and loudly proclaiming you have $300 and heading down a dark alley isn't illegal. But when someone tells you not to do that, people are going to think you're extra-special stupid if you do it anyway.
 
2014-02-16 10:20:18 AM  

vygramul: And, it's entirely consistent to think all of that and yet also feel there wasn't enough evidence to convict Zimmerman. That doesn't mean his actions weren't unwise. I mean, taking out $300 from an ATM in downtown DC at 3am and loudly proclaiming you have $300 and heading down a dark alley isn't illegal. But when someone tells you not to do that, people are going to think you're extra-special stupid if you do it anyway.


Someone shouldn't have to tell you not to do that.

Just like someone shouldn't have to tell you not to follow someone you find suspicious enough to call the police on. If someone disturbs me to the point I feel the need to call the police, engaging them in any way is the last thing i am going to do.
 
2014-02-16 10:24:08 AM  

serpent_sky: vygramul: And, it's entirely consistent to think all of that and yet also feel there wasn't enough evidence to convict Zimmerman. That doesn't mean his actions weren't unwise. I mean, taking out $300 from an ATM in downtown DC at 3am and loudly proclaiming you have $300 and heading down a dark alley isn't illegal. But when someone tells you not to do that, people are going to think you're extra-special stupid if you do it anyway.

Someone shouldn't have to tell you not to do that.

Just like someone shouldn't have to tell you not to follow someone you find suspicious enough to call the police on. If someone disturbs me to the point I feel the need to call the police, engaging them in any way is the last thing i am going to do.


I don't disagree at all.

As my NRA instructor would say, Zimmerman displayed a certain immaturity when it comes to being armed. A gun is supposed to get you out of trouble. It's not supposed to enable you getting into trouble and mitigate the consequences. I suspect that, were he not armed, he would not have left his vehicle.