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2014-02-15 06:07:04 PM
6 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Who said mugging was a myth?


Indeed.

I have a better question:

Who said we have to have X troll headlines a week now?
No moderation... declining headlines...

Drew, if you want the site to perform better; do the opposite of what you're doing now.
2014-02-15 06:08:53 PM
4 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Who said mugging was a myth?


Well you see someone dared suggest that the "Knockout Game" was not an actual epidemic like the media was portraying it, so to the conservative brain, able only to comprehend the world as all or nothing, this means that liberals believe it never happens.
2014-02-15 11:33:59 PM
3 votes:
Never ceases to crack me up. When libs have to eat crow over previous comments that turn out to be false, they either make light of it, ignore it, or actually double down on their idiocy.
2014-02-15 09:50:54 PM
3 votes:
When I act like a good Chimper and post my true opinions on matters such as these, it seems like lately the comments are removed.

So here are my not real feelings on this.

De Troof beez RASIS!!!!

Try not to chimp out mods.
We aren't coming.
We are here.
And have been for some time.
Chimpout, get some branes morans.

I now return you o your false liberal programming.
2014-02-15 08:43:00 PM
3 votes:

Need_MindBleach: Vector R: Call me when they charge these pieces of subhuman waste with a hate crime.

They will never, ever, charge a black-on-white crime as a hate crime no matter how obvious it is.


When you look at from far enough away, all of the feminist, black, brown, pick an oppressed minority "struggle" seems to have devolved into one simple formula.  No matter what we do or say, you're not allowed to call us on our crap.  It doesn't seem to have made things any better for anybody, as far as I can tell.
2014-02-15 07:22:46 PM
3 votes:

neongoats: So getting mugged in a fairly normal, predictable nature by shiatty teenagers is a myth?

Hop on off your cross there, right wingidiots.


The 'kids' chose him because of his race. Flip the coin and there's national outrage. It's hypocrisy. I'm white. I've been yelled at and threatened because of it. The difference is: most people don't give a sh*t.
2014-02-15 06:17:03 PM
3 votes:
Rant time.

So, my tumblr is sometimes flooded with "POC need to stand together! The system is racist! White people are racist by default! Cultural assimilation is bad!!" rants, but when I say that racism -on any side of the spectrum- is actually not the disease, but the symptom of something worse (economic inequality), I get yelled at.

I take this bit of news as a sign of economic inequality: The poor get bad education, bad treatment from the authorities, and get told every single day by the media, and the political dittoheads that either a) they can't do anything because they are X or b) "Look at that guy! Look at how weird he looks, how different his beliefs/creed/etc are from yours. He is the ROOT of all your problems, and you should hate it!" of course you'll get reactions like this. Greedy people in power constantly harass the rest of us while the line their own pockets!.

So, in retrospect, as the line between the wealthy and the poor turns more and more into a canyon, expect more of these attacks, and more Zimmermans, and more Rush Limbaughs, and more hate spewed until we're all up against each other's throats.
2014-02-16 01:02:38 AM
2 votes:

Frederick: Gyrfalcon: I understand the visceral appeal of labeling some crimes "hate crimes" and increasing the sentence accordingly; but it doesn't seem necessary, and I dislike anything that gives the criminal a forum to justify his actions. Call a murderer a murderer and an arsonist an arsonist. Don't let him explain his motives for doing it. Did he intend to do it? Then that's all that matters.

I never bought into the idea that the motivation for enacting hate crime laws and penalties was to empower minorities or show extra sensitivity.  It was to reward District Attorneys, judges, law enforcement, and legislators with the false perspective that they are tough on crime and garner minority appeal.


Good Lord, how lazy can you get?  It's not hard to Google "hate crime rationale" if you really don't understand why (some of us think that) we need hate crime legislation.  Here, I'll even do it for you:

We need hate crime legislation because "this conduct [hate crime] is thought to inflict greater individual and societal harm.... bias-motivated crimes are more likely to provoke retaliatory crimes, inflict distinct emotional harms on their victims, and incite community unrest."   ----  Chief Justice Rehnquist, 1993
2014-02-15 10:41:09 PM
2 votes:

bunner: Need_MindBleach: Vector R: Call me when they charge these pieces of subhuman waste with a hate crime.

They will never, ever, charge a black-on-white crime as a hate crime no matter how obvious it is.

When you look at from far enough away, all of the feminist, black, brown, pick an oppressed minority "struggle" seems to have devolved into one simple formula.  No matter what we do or say, you're not allowed to call us on our crap.  It doesn't seem to have made things any better for anybody, as far as I can tell.


Yep, the straight white male is the new targeted minority. But we apparently deserve it so it's ok.
2014-02-15 08:39:02 PM
2 votes:

Vector R: Call me when they charge these pieces of subhuman waste with a hate crime.


They will never, ever, charge a black-on-white crime as a hate crime no matter how obvious it is.
2014-02-15 08:38:01 PM
2 votes:
And people say the death penalty is wrong.  Pretty good case for it here.  Just cull the herd now and be done with these pieces of shiat.

/I'd bet the farm these assholes are all dead or in jail 20 years from now.
2014-02-15 07:14:52 PM
2 votes:

Pumpernickel bread: Given the color of the assailants and the victim, I am surprised this is national news.  Now, if it had been the other way around....


Interesting how you observed something that disproves your biases, yet used it to convince yourself that they're right.
2014-02-15 07:03:51 PM
2 votes:

Panty Sniffer: fatcurlytoes: I like how the stock photo they used is of a white person's wrists in handcuffs. Uh, no.

Maybe the teenagers were white.  The article does not specify the race of the teenagers.


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2014-02-15 06:52:30 PM
2 votes:
WORLDSTAR!
2014-02-15 06:27:18 PM
2 votes:

Nabb1: Why do morons film these things on their cell phones?


You have asked and answered your own question.
2014-02-15 06:24:27 PM
2 votes:
CygnusDarius:

So, in retrospect, as the line between the wealthy and the poor turns more and more into a canyon, expect more of these attacks, and more Zimmermans, and more Rush Limbaughs, and more hate spewed until we're all up against each other's throats.


The answer is self-evident; empower more people like Zimmerman and begin culling. You'll have less first generation problems and with their, the poor blacks, declining breeding numbers from systematic removal, you'll have exponentially less problems as the generations progress from enacting the cull. As a result, you'll also have less expenditures for social programs and jails as well, so we'll all see quite a savings.
2014-02-15 06:08:32 PM
2 votes:
A horde of future democrats beating and robbing a disabled veteran? No way!!
2014-02-15 06:07:19 PM
2 votes:
Call me when they charge these pieces of subhuman waste with a hate crime.
2014-02-15 05:48:13 PM
2 votes:

Nabb1: Why do morons film these things on their cell phones?

2014-02-16 02:37:49 PM
1 votes:
Ah, black racists behaving like the stereotyped caricatures they accuse white people of undeservedly painting them.

To think, MLKjr fought against racism only to have it bite everyone else in the ass, because no black person can be criticized now, or else if you do YOU'RE A RACIST! smfh
2014-02-16 10:32:03 AM
1 votes:
fickenchucker:

/I'd bet the farm these assholes are all dead or in jail 20 years from now.

You're being very generous. I'd go for 7 years.
2014-02-16 02:54:49 AM
1 votes:
I wonder if a car load of teens wanted to play the knock out game with Mike Dunn and it didn't end the way they expected?
2014-02-16 01:08:40 AM
1 votes:

Ready-set: The My Little Pony Killer: Ready-set: I'm white. I've been yelled at and threatened because of it.

Boo hoo.

Three morons (read: wanna be trolls) have replied unsympathetically. Note that I wasn't crying. People are targeted based on what they look like all the time. My point is that all of the cases should be prosecuted equally. I'm seeing "Aw, poor white guy". Try using that on a different race and you get a different response. It is a double standard. Here's some bait for you: I am a white, rich, Christian male in the middle of the US. I win!


Yeah.  You win a potato.

Dumbass.
2014-02-15 10:45:46 PM
1 votes:

Thai_Mai_Xhu: Olo Manolo: Thai_Mai_Xhu: When I act like a good Chimper and post my true opinions on matters such as these, it seems like lately the comments are removed.

So here are my not real feelings on this.

De Troof beez RASIS!!!!

Try not to chimp out mods.
We aren't coming.
We are here.
And have been for some time.
Chimpout, get some branes morans.

I now return you o your false liberal programming.

This whole post causes me liberal amounts of confusion...

Thanks!
Nothing I hate more than clearly stated opinions on national issues of personal safety and such!
Just screwing around on the net, not really a big issue, just time to give the slugs more salt in those little baggies.
Pretzels, I meant on their pretzels.
Keeps on smilin cuz!


I'm jealous of your drugs. they must be really good.
2014-02-15 10:42:46 PM
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: Mr.BobDobalita: Personally,


I think -ANY- 'hate' crime legislation is completely ridiculous from the start.   So it's a worse crime if you murder someone because of their race than if you just murder them?   I don't think it's any worse.  They should both fry.  It does injustice to people just murdered when special punishment is handed down to others because it's a 'hate' crime.

One life isn't worth more than another.

Also, I don't necessarily think it makes it a hate crime if these kids were black and yelling racial epithets at the man.  Nor would I think it was a hate crime if a white guy was yelling you stupid n-word at someone he was fighting.
It's a hate crime if the crime was done BECAUSE of the race... but if you get in a fight at a bar with a guy of a different race/sexuality/whatever and you happen to use derogatory names against him, how does that make it a hate crime?   Of course you are going to try to insult and degrade the person.  YOU ARE PUNCHING THEM IN THE FACE and visa versa.  I just don't get why some people are "more important" than others.


Crime is crime.

I tend to agree. Trying to split hairs and say "X commited this hideous crime because, and ONLY because, of the victims' race/gender/ethnicity/whatever," is to give X some kind of way out. Are we then to suppose that absent the minority status of the victim, X would otherwise be a nice, loving, law-abiding person and kind to animals? Some people say so, but except during war, when things are a little different, one invariably finds that perpetrators of hate crimes are ALSO nasty, vicious people who often have numerous other crimes on their jacket. One does not beat up a black person for no other reason than that person is black--one also beats up whites because [insert other factor here] because one is a bully and a brute. The black person is just an easier, less risky target.

It's the same way with any other "hate crime": Did X stick a burning cross in the victim's yard to show hi ...


C'mon, you both must know that mens rea matters. Your intent matters as well as the act, this is pretty basic stuff. It's how we differentiate various degrees of murder and manslaughter. Somebody dies and it's a crime, but whether you killed them because you were playing around with a gun and you didn't think it was loaded or whether you deliberately planned the attack 3 months in advance matters to us, as well it should. We care whether or not you deleted that file because you were just trying to clear space on your hard drive or because you were trying to keep it from getting into the hands of a grand jury. One is a dumbass mistake, one is obstruction of justice.

Your mental state matters for just about every crime on the books. Let's not pretend that that's unique to hate crimes.
2014-02-15 10:15:30 PM
1 votes:

Thai_Mai_Xhu: When I act like a good Chimper and post my true opinions on matters such as these, it seems like lately the comments are removed.

So here are my not real feelings on this.

De Troof beez RASIS!!!!

Try not to chimp out mods.
We aren't coming.
We are here.
And have been for some time.
Chimpout, get some branes morans.

I now return you o your false liberal programming.


This whole post causes me liberal amounts of confusion...
2014-02-15 09:08:42 PM
1 votes:

Caelistis: The answer is self-evident; empower more people like Zimmerman and begin culling. You'll have less first generation problems and with their, the poor blacks, declining breeding numbers from systematic removal, you'll have exponentially less problems as the generations progress from enacting the cull. As a result, you'll also have less expenditures for social programs and jails as well, so we'll all see quite a savings.


Plus we could feed the bodies of the dead to the surviving poor people.
2014-02-15 08:49:53 PM
1 votes:

Nabb1: Why do morons film these things on their cell phones?


To show their homies how awesome they are.
2014-02-15 08:31:14 PM
1 votes:
So, all I have to do to get my stone G boy thug for life cred is round up some unemployed, racist douchebags and beat and rob a cripple?  We can't even raise the bar for "pile of dogsh*t" these days.
2014-02-15 08:23:30 PM
1 votes:

Electrify: Nice and tough against a disabled man. Let's see how well they stand up next to their cellmate.


Their cellmates will probably look a lot like them, and they will probably share a common abhorrence for old white guys.  They'll probably get along swimmingly.

/probably
2014-02-15 08:18:36 PM
1 votes:

CygnusDarius: Rant time.

So, my tumblr is sometimes flooded with "POC need to stand together! The system is racist! White people are racist by default! Cultural assimilation is bad!!" rants, but when I say that racism -on any side of the spectrum- is actually not the disease, but the symptom of something worse (economic inequality), I get yelled at.

I take this bit of news as a sign of economic inequality: The poor get bad education, bad treatment from the authorities, and get told every single day by the media, and the political dittoheads that either a) they can't do anything because they are X or b) "Look at that guy! Look at how weird he looks, how different his beliefs/creed/etc are from yours. He is the ROOT of all your problems, and you should hate it!" of course you'll get reactions like this. Greedy people in power constantly harass the rest of us while the line their own pockets!.

So, in retrospect, as the line between the wealthy and the poor turns more and more into a canyon, expect more of these attacks, and more Zimmermans, and more Rush Limbaughs, and more hate spewed until we're all up against each other's throats.


I think you still miss the mark on the cause. It's actually not an uncommon belief as many liberals think the same way as you. That being poor makes somebody criminally minded and want to go out and commit crimes. Being poor doesn't make somebody evil any more than being rich makes somebody evil.
2014-02-15 08:11:25 PM
1 votes:
If approached and threatened by these people (any people) and I shoot them in the face, does that make me a bad person?
2014-02-15 07:52:17 PM
1 votes:
Not a hate crime!

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2014-02-15 07:43:30 PM
1 votes:

Starshines: Pumpernickel bread: Given the color of the assailants and the victim, I am surprised this is national news.  Now, if it had been the other way around....

Interesting how you observed something that disproves your biases, yet used it to convince yourself that they're right.


What you said made no sense.   I suggest you go re-read the article, or perhaps another story on the event, then re-read what I wrote, and then respond, after putting some thought into it.  Don't just blurt something out as it may be, you know, nonsensical.
2014-02-15 07:40:15 PM
1 votes:
Racism (against whites) isn't the right wing myth.

The right wing myth is that there's a race war going on with black people slaughtering white people en masse.

There are a number of farkers who posit this myth regularly.
2014-02-15 07:01:50 PM
1 votes:

doglover: Nabb1: Why do morons film these things on their cell phones?

You want to sleep well at night? You want to have a moment's peace again? Stop thinking about it.


Because if you think about it, you realize that police are actually not very good at finding criminals. It's always the criminal's own stupidity that gets them caught. Like the guys who climb up, with no mask, and disable security cams. Or the ones who rob their neighbor's house in the snow. And of course people who forget that the only way two people can keep a secret is if one of them is dead.

But the smart criminals, they can get away with it for a long time. Often forever. That guy who had all those girls in his basement dungeon in Ohio? The cops talked to him when it originally happened. Never suspected. Serial killers, or at least a lot of killers, haunt certain highways in places like Alaska. We don't even know who or what's going on, just that there's a lot of dead bodies there over the years. In Fayette County PA, the Police call it Fayette Nam because the forest to building ratio is such that the majority of the state is unpatrolable. There was a man spotted by three different train conductors carrying a woman's body in the woods. Nothing ever came of it. And the mob? There's Mexican hit men with 800+ kills. I don't even know 800 people on facebook.

It's only the stupid criminals who get caught. The really dangerous smart criminals, the Al Capones, usually manage to remain free. Capone himself went down because of his arrogance more than anything. If he had been less flamboyant Eliot Ness never would have locked horns with him.

Now that's
the human race is miserably illogical, cruel, self-destructive and stupid.


fyp
2014-02-15 06:58:53 PM
1 votes:
Given the color of the assailants and the victim, I am surprised this is national news.  Now, if it had been the other way around....
2014-02-15 06:37:00 PM
1 votes:
Did some teens who might have been not-white attack a disabled vet? Yes
Was this a racially motivated attack? Possibly - as noted by the racial epithets.


Why is this important?
1) Because when white people get beat up, it's national news
2) See #1
3) STFU and GBTW

Don't bother posting an article about how the murder rate in Baltimore is going at a historic rate because that's just ni...black people killing each other.
2014-02-15 06:30:09 PM
1 votes:

Nabb1: Why do morons film these things on their cell phones?


For tumblr, facebook and youtube likes. They don't realize how public those sites are. Yes, I know they are stupid. But then again, they are filming themselves doing illegal things. MENSA material, these people aren't.
2014-02-15 06:29:44 PM
1 votes:

Nabb1: Why do morons film these things on their cell phones?


Shhhh. You're discouraging stupid people from providing police with self-incriminating evidence... don't do that. Encourage them to film their illegal acts. Ensure that their buddies are in frame and in focus. I'd instead complain about the shaky framing and loss of focus - encourage these chuckleheads to do it right.
2014-02-15 06:06:33 PM
1 votes:
I like how the stock photo they used is of a white person's wrists in handcuffs. Uh, no.
2014-02-15 06:03:06 PM
1 votes:
Who said mugging was a myth?
2014-02-15 05:10:22 PM
1 votes:

Trailltrader: To quote from Ben Franklin:

I wish that the bald eagle had not been chosen as the representative of our country, he is a bird of bad moral character, he does not get his living honestly, you may have seen him perched on some dead tree, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the labor of the fishing-hawk, and when that diligent bird has at length taken a fish, and is bearing it to its nest for the support of his mate and young ones, the bald eagle pursues him and takes it from him....
Besides he is a rank coward; the little kingbird, not bigger than a sparrow attacks him boldly and drives him out of the district. He is therefore by no means a proper emblem for the brave and honest. . . of America.. . . For a truth, the turkey is in comparison a much more respectable bird, and withal a true original native of America . . . a bird of courage, and would not hesitate to attack a grenadier of the British guards, who should presume to invade his farmyard with a red coat on.

So I'm with the kids on this one


I think you posted in the wrong thread.
2014-02-15 05:07:37 PM
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Why do morons film these things on their cell phones?
 
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