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(Politico)   As long as you agree not to ask me about my voting record, or words, I'll agree to a debate   (politico.com) divider line 73
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2014-02-15 06:32:23 PM
Holy shiat, subby, did you even bother to read the article?  She hasn't voted on ANYTHING.  She supports Obamacare, yes, but that's it.

That said, she's being a biatch about this.  She may have nothing to gain from a debate regarless of who's moderating it, but blaming it on MSNBC (of all networks) is such BS.  She's chickenshiat, plain and simple.
 
2014-02-15 06:40:16 PM
Well, I wouldn't vote for that wuss...but I couldn't vote republican, either, so...good thing I don't live in that district, I guess.
 
2014-02-15 07:17:10 PM

Solid State Vittles: Holy shiat, subby, did you even bother to read the article?  She hasn't voted on ANYTHING.  She supports Obamacare, yes, but that's it.

That said, she's being a biatch about this.  She may have nothing to gain from a debate regarless of who's moderating it, but blaming it on MSNBC (of all networks) is such BS.  She's chickenshiat, plain and simple.


This. A debate would simply give her lesser known opponent more exposure. While I agree it's cowardly it's also basic politics. Also I'm not sure why a Democrat would agree to a debate hosted by the Chamber of Commerce (even if it's not he national one) in the first place.
 
2014-02-15 08:01:40 PM
FFTA: "Sink may have had another reason for keeping Todd out. In 2010, following her unsuccessful gubernatorial race, Todd said she ran the single worst campaign"

While I agree that losing to Skeltor was bad, she lost in 2010, a real bad year for Dems, if I recall correctly.  But, it's probably just petty BS, he said something bad about me, so fark him.

I still like Alex Sink and I hope she wins, but I can't vote for her, so my opinion doesn't matter.

\Vote Crist in 2014 for Fla Gov, just sayin'
 
2014-02-15 08:03:07 PM
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\Chuck Todd is a douche, and has no business "moderating" a debate
\\maybe a BBQ ribs contest, but nothing important
 
2014-02-15 08:06:44 PM
Chuck Todd is a douche, but she fears her past coming to light.  Her support of Obama care has already cost some of her constituents jobs.
 
2014-02-15 08:12:32 PM
Chuck Todd isn't worthy to hold a middle school student council debate.
 
2014-02-15 08:14:20 PM

Nemo's Brother: Chuck Todd is a douche, but she fears her past coming to light.  Her support of Obama care has already cost some of her constituents jobs.


I am TOTALLY sure that you have facts to back up this statement and aren't just an idiotic troll...

^^HEAVY sarcasm
 
2014-02-15 08:14:41 PM

Nemo's Brother: Chuck Todd is a douche, but she fears her past coming to light.  Her support of Obama care has already cost some of her constituents jobs.


That sounds like the kind of pulled-out-of-an-orifice assertion that someone like, say, Chuck Todd would bring up in a "debate".
 
2014-02-15 08:15:45 PM
Something similar is going on in Colorado. The top Republican candidates for governor are refusing to debate prior to the primary. Can't say I blame them, they all have whole graveyards in their closets.
 
2014-02-15 08:17:12 PM
It's Florida so who gives a shiat. No matter who wins we all lose
 
2014-02-15 08:18:56 PM
Sarah Bascom, a Jolly spokeswoman, scoffed at Sink's debate demands.

She sounds more snarky than jolly to me.

Sink had an offer for a debate on the table, it was agreed to and then they tried to change the rules after the fact. She has every right to reject their counter offer thingy even if it does make her look scared.

Plus there's that whole "Chuck Todd is a douche" thing to factor into this.
 
2014-02-15 08:24:08 PM
This is just basic politics.  Debates/increased exposure are generally to an underdog's advantage.  A favorite wants to minimize both as much as possible without appearing as if they're doing so.
 
2014-02-15 08:31:09 PM

BladBoy: I still like Alex Sink and I hope she wins, but I can't vote for her, so my opinion doesn't matter.


If you had enough money to throw around it would.
 
2014-02-15 08:32:29 PM
Back off Chuck Right Wing Attack DogTodd.  She's beholden to the unions, banks, lawyers, insurance brokers, banks, hospitals and, of course blue cross-blue shield. She'll make fine steward of the tax payer's purse.
 
2014-02-15 08:37:45 PM
Just agree to her demands and then ask her those questions anyway.  When she gets all huffy and pissed off, she'll look like a biatch on national TV.
 
2014-02-15 08:50:29 PM
A front runner not wanting debate or wanting to limit the scope of it is like day one stuff, brehs.
 
2014-02-15 08:55:17 PM
When a politician starts putting conditions like this on debates the answer shoul be an automatic disqualification and an end to media coverage.
What if a politician ran for office and no one paid them any attention?
 
2014-02-15 09:00:45 PM

dstrick44: When a politician starts putting conditions like this on debates the answer shoul be an automatic disqualification and an end to media coverage.
What if a politician ran for office and no one paid them any attention?


She agreed to a debate and then they decided to switch to a moderator who has a history of being hostile to her. Based on the article, all she wants is for the debate to continue under the original terms. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
 
2014-02-15 09:09:20 PM
Nemo's Brother:   Her support of Obama care has already cost some of her constituents jobs.

Horseshiat.
 
2014-02-15 09:09:48 PM
Chuck Todd is a GOP stooge/concern troll.
 
2014-02-15 09:17:35 PM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Back off Chuck Right Wing Attack DogTodd.  She's beholden to the unions, banks, lawyers, insurance brokers, banks, hospitals and, of course blue cross-blue shield. She'll make fine steward of the tax payer's purse.


Yup. She won't blow it all on invading Middle Eastern countries, and she will try to add to the purse instead of cutting off its income.
 
2014-02-15 09:25:24 PM

Solid State Vittles: Holy shiat, subby, did you even bother to read the article?  She hasn't voted on ANYTHING.  She supports Obamacare, yes, but that's it.


Subby's retarded.

That said, she's being a biatch about this.  She may have nothing to gain from a debate regarless of who's moderating it, but blaming it on MSNBC (of all networks) is such BS.  She's chickenshiat, plain and simple.

Uh, why?  It's a local congressional race.  WTFark would NBC and Chuck Todd be interested in it?

A Senate race I can understand...but a local one?  Really?  Smells of overkill and BS to me.
 
2014-02-15 09:33:51 PM

Nemo's Brother: Chuck Todd is a douche, but she fears her past coming to light.  Her support of Obama care has already cost some of her constituents jobs.


Could you post without being a liar, if you wanted to?
 
2014-02-15 09:41:36 PM
Of course, the real reason is right here:

In January, our campaign agreed to a grassroots, forum style event with all the candidates, with a local moderator and with questions from the audience - with the goal of facilitating an open and thoughtful conversation about the issues facing the Pinellas [County] business community," Ashley Walker, a Sink spokeswoman, wrote in an email.

Sink wanted to have a local debate, about local issues facing the community she and/or her esteemed opponent would actually be representing in Congress. Her esteemed asshole opponent wants to make it a national event between the two of them, on MSNBC, and make Loud Comments on her record of supporting Obamacare, which is really irrelevant to what her constituents need or want, but which would probably lose her the election.

It's funny how any time a politician tries to bring the issues back to the people, the GOP (so big on states' rights and people taking the government back and all that) wants to take it away from them again.
 
2014-02-15 09:46:36 PM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Back off Chuck Right Wing Attack DogTodd.  She's beholden to the unions, banks, lawyers, insurance brokers, banks, hospitals and, of course blue cross-blue shield. She'll make fine steward of the tax payer's purse.


1) Name me a single f*cking politician of either party that *isn't* beholden to all of the above

2) Great strategy. Counteract Generic Democrat with Generic Republican C*ck.

geekystamps.weebly.com
 
2014-02-15 09:52:28 PM
Chuck Todd really is a slithering turd of a human being. Much better to stick with the previously agreed upon USF poli sci professor.
 
2014-02-15 10:04:59 PM

fusillade762: Solid State Vittles: Holy shiat, subby, did you even bother to read the article?  She hasn't voted on ANYTHING.  She supports Obamacare, yes, but that's it.

That said, she's being a biatch about this.  She may have nothing to gain from a debate regarless of who's moderating it, but blaming it on MSNBC (of all networks) is such BS.  She's chickenshiat, plain and simple.

This. A debate would simply give her lesser known opponent more exposure. While I agree it's cowardly it's also basic politics. Also I'm not sure why a Democrat would agree to a debate hosted by the Chamber of Commerce (even if it's not he national one) in the first place.


I'm not sure why a Republican would agree to a debate moderated by someone from the lamestream liberal drive-by media of MSNBC.  Didn't their autopsy of their last presidential run find that to be the smoking gun?
 
2014-02-15 10:05:04 PM

Tarl3k: Nemo's Brother: Chuck Todd is a douche, but she fears her past coming to light.  Her support of Obama care has already cost some of her constituents jobs.

I am TOTALLY sure that you have facts to back up this statement and aren't just an idiotic troll...

^^HEAVY sarcasm


It was actually heavy enough that it didn't need to be pointed out, but thanks anyway.
 
2014-02-15 10:11:05 PM

Epic Fap Session: Chuck Todd is a GOP stooge/concern troll.


What's weird is that maybe five years ago he wasn't. Seems like after Olbermann left MSNBC he went that way.
 
2014-02-15 10:14:26 PM

Solid State Vittles: Holy shiat, subby, did you even bother to read the article?  She hasn't voted on ANYTHING.  She supports Obamacare, yes, but that's it.

That said, she's being a biatch about this.  She may have nothing to gain from a debate regarless of who's moderating it, but blaming it on MSNBC (of all networks) is such BS.  She's chickenshiat, plain and simple.


MSNBC? You mean the network that bowed to Sarah "The First Amendment is an endangered species" Palin and fired an anchor for saying mean things about her?

Yeah, I wouldn't want a debate there, either.

/I wouldn't want a debate on any "news" station, to be honest...
 
2014-02-15 10:15:48 PM

fusillade762: Solid State Vittles: Holy shiat, subby, did you even bother to read the article?  She hasn't voted on ANYTHING.  She supports Obamacare, yes, but that's it.

That said, she's being a biatch about this.  She may have nothing to gain from a debate regarless of who's moderating it, but blaming it on MSNBC (of all networks) is such BS.  She's chickenshiat, plain and simple.

This. A debate would simply give her lesser known opponent more exposure. While I agree it's cowardly it's also basic politics. Also I'm not sure why a Democrat would agree to a debate hosted by the Chamber of Commerce (even if it's not he national one) in the first place.


Local Chambers of Commerce are not the same as the US Chamber - their politics usually depend on the communities their members are in.
 
2014-02-15 10:20:01 PM

dstrick44: When a politician starts putting conditions like this on debates the answer shoul be an automatic disqualification and an end to media coverage.
What if a politician ran for office and no one paid them any attention?


I dunno, ask anyone not hand-picked by the two parties in power.
 
2014-02-15 10:21:27 PM

IlGreven: dstrick44: When a politician starts putting conditions like this on debates the answer shoul be an automatic disqualification and an end to media coverage.
What if a politician ran for office and no one paid them any attention?

I dunno, ask anyone not hand-picked by the two parties in power.


Bernie Sanders?
 
2014-02-15 10:22:51 PM

JesusJuice: Just agree to her demands and then ask her those questions anyway.  When she gets all huffy and pissed off, she'll look like a biatch on national TV.


Vote for me! I break promises!
 
2014-02-15 10:27:47 PM

cameroncrazy1984: IlGreven: dstrick44: When a politician starts putting conditions like this on debates the answer shoul be an automatic disqualification and an end to media coverage.
What if a politician ran for office and no one paid them any attention?

I dunno, ask anyone not hand-picked by the two parties in power.

Bernie Sanders?


Hand-picked by Democrats (by virtue of their not usually endorsing a candidate against him)
 
2014-02-15 10:34:04 PM
I'm sure a Republican wouldn't cancel if they agreed to a debate moderated by a neutral party, but the moderator was replaced by Michael Moore at the last minute.
 
2014-02-15 10:42:35 PM
I refuse to speak with Chuck Todd, and that's not news.
 
2014-02-15 10:46:49 PM

fusillade762: Solid State Vittles: Holy shiat, subby, did you even bother to read the article?  She hasn't voted on ANYTHING.  She supports Obamacare, yes, but that's it.

That said, she's being a biatch about this.  She may have nothing to gain from a debate regarless of who's moderating it, but blaming it on MSNBC (of all networks) is such BS.  She's chickenshiat, plain and simple.

This. A debate would simply give her lesser known opponent more exposure. While I agree it's cowardly it's also basic politics. Also I'm not sure why a Democrat would agree to a debate hosted by the Chamber of Commerce (even if it's not he national one) in the first place.


If there's no upside for her to a debate, why do it?  You may call it 'cowardly', but I think it's strategic.  I can understand why she wouldn't want to.
 
2014-02-15 11:23:00 PM
Whoa... I'm confused by the Chuck Todd comments. Granted I haven't listened to him much in quite a while... But still, I'm confused.

Anyone have a couple links to recent behavior/commentary/analysis to back up the commentary?
 
2014-02-15 11:50:43 PM
Seems like pretty normal politicking. The chamber promised a local deal that would benefit the Democrat. The chamber now wants to change the rules at the last minute to benefit the Republican. The Democrat balks. Politico makes up a reason for said balking, saying that Chuck Todd said a mean thing about the Democrat four years ago. The world continues to orbit the sun.
 
2014-02-15 11:50:57 PM
A Democrat rejecting Chuck Todd and MSNBC?

I can only hope for such a "bell weather".
 
2014-02-16 12:46:39 AM

Solid State Vittles: Holy shiat, subby, did you even bother to read the article?  She hasn't voted on ANYTHING.  She supports Obamacare, yes, but that's it.

That said, she's being a biatch about this.  She may have nothing to gain from a debate regarless of who's moderating it, but blaming it on MSNBC (of all networks) is such BS.  She's chickenshiat, plain and simple.


Who knows? Maybe she's afraid of opening herself up to more ambush tactics like that bullshiat 'alexsinkforcongress' website a couple of weeks ago.
 
2014-02-16 01:46:39 AM
If you're afraid to have a debate in a format where many people will see it, it generally means you're afraid of losing. If you think you can win, it's just more positive publicity for you. She's probably afraid she'll get beat up on supporting Obamacare, but that's not exactly a secret since it's pretty much a given if you have a D after your name, but if she's given a chance to respond she can set the record straight and challenge some of the propaganda coming from her opponents. I just don't get why she isn't leaping at this opportunity.
 
2014-02-16 02:38:12 AM
Oh look, Democrats are running away from the President and ObamaCare, because THAT WORKED SO FARKING WELL IN 2010!
 
2014-02-16 03:21:10 AM
Debates are irrelevant.

People should not be voting for social conservatives, period. Unless they want this country to continue going to hell both domestically and internationally.
 
2014-02-16 03:24:40 AM
He's over the age of 25 and still goes by "Chuck." I wouldn't want him there either.

/Chuck Norris gets a pass, but no other Chucks
 
2014-02-16 03:25:17 AM

TerminalEchoes: Chuck Norris gets a pass,


For being a Teabagger dipshiat? I think not.
 
2014-02-16 03:36:54 AM

whidbey: TerminalEchoes: Chuck Norris gets a pass,

For being a Teabagger dipshiat? I think not.


No no, he gets a pass on being called "Chuck."

He gets no passes for being an overweight has-been whose only real claim to fame is that Bruce Lee kicked his ass in a movie; otherwise, Norris would have gone the way of tens of thousands of other 70's martial artists. Despite what his fanboys want to think, Norris wasn't that special and he wasn't that innovative, even in the 1970's. He just got lucky. And now he's outlived even that; there are more and better martial artists who deserve the fame more and also keep their opinions out of the political arena.
 
2014-02-16 06:04:01 AM

Solid State Vittles: Holy shiat, subby, did you even bother to read the article?  She hasn't voted on ANYTHING.  She supports Obamacare, yes, but that's it.

That said, she's being a biatch about this.  She may have nothing to gain from a debate regarless of who's moderating it, but blaming it on MSNBC (of all networks) is such BS.  She's chickenshiat, plain and simple.


no she just wants someone besides a corporate network shill to moderate.
 
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