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(Daily Mail)   Parents raise their son to be "gender-neutral" so he won't grow up to be aggressive. The bullies who will beat him up after he starts school will surely appreciate their target's lack of aggression   ( dailymail.co.uk) divider line
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2014-02-15 11:25:01 AM  
This being the Daily Fail, the most extreme part of the story is likely made up.
 
2014-02-15 11:25:20 AM  
Poor kid.  It takes a special kind of douche to treat a kid as a social experiment rather than as a child.
 
2014-02-15 11:25:43 AM  
In other news, one-year-old babies like to play with different things.
 
2014-02-15 11:25:54 AM  
Getting bullied at a young age leads to one of two things: 1) Suicide.  2) Homicide.   Thanks mom and dad.
 
2014-02-15 11:26:34 AM  
After seeing a picture of its parents, it make total sense. She looks like an angry wanna be dyke and he looks like a bottom.
 
2014-02-15 11:28:24 AM  
Surely there are less radical and equally effective (perhaps more so?) ways of teaching a boy to be compassionate and kind.

/way to get your kid beat up, mom and dad. He'll really thank you for that.
 
2014-02-15 11:29:19 AM  
FTA--"I hope that Max won't get teased when he's older."

Yeah, good luck with THAT.

//hope in one hand and shiat in the other. See which one fills up first.
 
2014-02-15 11:31:04 AM  

Parents raise their son child to be "gender-neutral" so he they won't grow up to be aggressive. The bullies who will beat him zir up after he ze starts school will surely appreciate their target's lack of aggression.


FTFY.
 
2014-02-15 11:33:16 AM  
Unless you come from a family of complete neanderthal redneck dumbasses, raising a child as a male doesn't involve making him inherently aggressive anyway. Unless you live in Texas, in which case I will refer you back to the beginning of the first sentence.
 
2014-02-15 11:33:25 AM  
Okay, but I have a sneaking suspicion what he's extremely likely to do once he starts noticing what other boys are doing.
 
2014-02-15 11:33:38 AM  

Fissile: Getting bullied at a young age leads to one of two things: 1) Suicide.  2) Homicide.   Thanks mom and dad.


Fistfights as kids, or gunfights as teens/adults. Pick one.
 
2014-02-15 11:34:34 AM  
Because girls are never aggressive.
 
2014-02-15 11:34:48 AM  
Yes, because biology doesn't have anything to do with who children eventually grow up to be. It's all entirely due to their upbringing.

I'm going to raise my kids to be velociraptors. They're champion athletes and pretty goshdarn smart, and let's see Old Man Hooper try raking his leaves into my yard again when I'm living in mothereffing Jurassic Park!
 
2014-02-15 11:35:07 AM  
I don't see how forcing both genders on a child is any different than forcing one he/she might not identify with. But, whatever.

Lisa, a full-time housewife, took the decision to allow Max to identify as either a girl or a boy 12 months ago, after seeing high-profile rape cases being discussed on parenting websites.

It's also a great idea to make major, life-altering decisions for your developing child based on extreme cases discussed by amateurs on internet forums. I myself plan to raise my children to avoid slatted chairs, sharp knees and streetlights based on my experiences on Fark.
 
2014-02-15 11:35:44 AM  

Ivan the Tolerable: Unless you come from a family of complete neanderthal redneck dumbasseswhere the mom is a feminazi, raising a child as a male doesn't involve making him inherently aggressive anyway. Unless you live in Texas, in which case I will refer you back to the beginning of the first sentence.


FTFY
 
2014-02-15 11:38:53 AM  

Saborlas: This being the Daily Fail, the most extreme part of the story is likely made up.


That's better.
 
2014-02-15 11:41:19 AM  
Fortunately, the Nanny State provides the kind of state-sponsored counseling that he/she/what the Fark am I? will need for the rest of his miserable life. Which will likely Fark him up even more.
 
2014-02-15 11:41:32 AM  
It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
 
2014-02-15 11:41:54 AM  
How is this any different than traditional methods of gender reinforcement? Here's a crazy notion....why not let the kid decide for himself instead of forcing these things on them. If he wants to play with dolls or dress in tutus let him. If he wants to play GI Joe and baseball instead let him. Make no judgements. Simply let the kids explore and learn and grow instead of turning them into your personal political statement/social experiment.
 
2014-02-15 11:44:21 AM  
Really annoyed that none of his clothes match when they try to dress him as a boy and girl at the same time. He looks homeless and lost. At least try to make the clothes match. Wasn't Bruce Lee kinda raised as a girl? But I bet his clothes matched. Also I don't think that is what makes guys aggressive or not .....
 
2014-02-15 11:46:17 AM  
Seems to miss the point if you're still telling him there are certain toys for boys and girls. Just let him play with what he wants to play with and eat ketchup packets for lunch.
 
2014-02-15 11:47:01 AM  
Been tried, never worked.
 
2014-02-15 11:47:28 AM  
Or, "Our son will be gay whether he likes it or not".
 
2014-02-15 11:47:45 AM  
I hope they start putting away lots of money for his future therapy
 
2014-02-15 11:48:18 AM  
Despite his parents best efforts, by the time he's 8 he'll understand that he doesn't want to just win that fight - he also wants to win all the fights after.

/"Damn you Peter, I don't want to play transformers and Preachers"
 
2014-02-15 11:54:31 AM  
But don't you DARE accuse Fark of misogyny...
 
2014-02-15 11:55:36 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: But don't you DARE accuse Fark of misogyny...


Just like clock-work!
 
2014-02-15 11:55:37 AM  
They're just preparing it early for a life of emo hipsterism.
 
2014-02-15 11:57:51 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-15 11:57:52 AM  

miss diminutive: I don't see how forcing both genders on a child is any different than forcing one he/she might not identify with. But, whatever.


One approach has maybe a 90-95% success rate, the other would have a100% failure rate.

MechaPyx: Here's a crazy notion....why not let the kid decide for himself instead of forcing these things on them. If he wants to play with dolls or dress in tutus let him. If he wants to play GI Joe and baseball instead let him.


Sounds like they are going to force him to play with both regardless of what he wants.
 
2014-02-15 12:01:26 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: But don't you DARE accuse Fark of misogyny...


Yawn
 
2014-02-15 12:04:41 PM  
I think this method of child-rearing is discussed at length in the parenting guide called 'How to Raise a Serial Killer'.
 
2014-02-15 12:05:47 PM  

jedzz: Okay, but I have a sneaking suspicion what he's extremely likely to do once he starts noticing what other boys are doing.


That will probably take a while:

TFA: 'We're planning on home educating Max,' says Lisa, who was herself home-schooled.


That, right there, speaks volumes to the real situation.

/maybe he'll end up with extremely white teeth
//or at least extremely white by british standards
 
2014-02-15 12:08:14 PM  
My kid will be the one beating that kid up on the playground.
 
2014-02-15 12:09:23 PM  
But what will his / her Facebook profile look like?

/never had a Facebook account, so I don't know what I'm talking about
 
2014-02-15 12:09:47 PM  
i486.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-15 12:10:57 PM  
The bullies who will beat him up after he starts school...

Oh yeah, he's a walking bulls eye for every bully that comes along.

/speaking from first hand experience
 
2014-02-15 12:11:07 PM  
And if you call the child 'him' or 'her' you're worse than Hitler and RuPaul is automatically president.
 
2014-02-15 12:16:22 PM  
Should have named him Sue. How do you do??
 
2014-02-15 12:16:35 PM  
At least they are keeping there social experiment to there own child.
 
2014-02-15 12:16:38 PM  
"We're not going to force gender identity on our son"
"You're going to wear this pink dress, and you're going to like it!"
 
2014-02-15 12:17:00 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: Saborlas: This being the Daily Fail, the most extreme part of the story is likely made up.

That's better.


Came to say this.
 
2014-02-15 12:18:02 PM  
After reading the article, it sounds like they're letting a little kid dress the way he wants and play with the toys he wants. Oh god, the horror.
 
2014-02-15 12:23:03 PM  

John Buck 41: FTA--"I hope that Max won't get teased when he's older."

Yeah, good luck with THAT.

//hope in one hand and shiat in the other. See which one fills up first.


I haven't met many people who use that particular adage.  I am quite fond of it.
 
2014-02-15 12:26:35 PM  

OneTimed: The My Little Pony Killer: But don't you DARE accuse Fark of misogyny...

Yawn


Due to it's absolute predictability, I think it's actually some sort of automatic script:

if (article_contains_slightest_hint_of_gender_discussion == TRUE)
{
    confirmPersonalBias();
    affirmFeministPlatitude();
    rantAgainst(MEN);
}
 
2014-02-15 12:39:20 PM  
If you want your kid to not be a bully, make sure he or she is about a foot taller than the other kids by the age of 10-12.

NB: This will not protect them from bullies and might make them a target. If they are strong and in good shape, they might not be bullied provided they are good-looking, smart, or good at sports (especially the latter).

Gender training has nothing to do with aggression. Boys punch. Girls pinch. Girls will work their social and psychological evil on you, even a male bully will respect you if you can beat him in an unfair fight.

The two stupid things that parents say about bullies:

Stand up for yourself. Fight back.
Don't stand up for yourself. Ignore them. They'll get bored and leave you alone.

The second of these is marginally better psychology because it is usually the woman who says it.
The first is marginally better psychology provided you are sure you can win in fights--as required. But if you could do that, you probably aren't bullied. You are either a bully, a bystander, or a peace maker.

Make that two feet taller.
 
2014-02-15 12:42:57 PM  

brantgoose: If you want your kid to not be a bully, make sure he or she is about a foot taller than the other kids by the age of 10-12.

NB: This will not protect them from bullies and might make them a target. If they are strong and in good shape, they might not be bullied provided they are good-looking, smart, or good at sports (especially the latter).

Gender training has nothing to do with aggression. Boys punch. Girls pinch. Girls will work their social and psychological evil on you, even a male bully will respect you if you can beat him in an unfair fight.

The two stupid things that parents say about bullies:

Stand up for yourself. Fight back.
Don't stand up for yourself. Ignore them. They'll get bored and leave you alone.

The second of these is marginally better psychology because it is usually the woman who says it.
The first is marginally better psychology provided you are sure you can win in fights--as required. But if you could do that, you probably aren't bullied. You are either a bully, a bystander, or a peace maker.

Make that two feet taller.



I didn't punch. I used psychological warfare.
 
2014-02-15 12:48:29 PM  
I'm a boy, I'm a boy
But my ma won't admit it
I'm a boy, I'm a boy
But if I say I am I get it

Put your frock on Jean Marie
Plait your hair Felicity
Paint your nails, little Sally Joy
Put this wig on, little boy

etc,
 
2014-02-15 12:48:35 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: But don't you DARE accuse Fark of misogyny...


[that_word.jpg]
 
2014-02-15 12:53:45 PM  
Parents like these are the worst. It's all about them, it isn't about the kid.

It's perfectly fine and dandy (blue hells it's great) that if your little boy sees a pink fairy dress in the store toy aisle and says "I want that!" and you get it for him or your little girl expresses she'd rather play with Tonka trucks and you get her those. That child made that choice because they wanted to, not because it was thrust (leadingly) at them or even forced on them. A parent who "does it right" doesn't do anything other than ensure their kid is the kid they want to be. That means merely playing with your kid and observing what you think interests them and assuring them that if they want to wear X/play with Y if you see they seem particularly interested in X or Y, that it's okay. That's it.
 
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